Random Chat, Thoughts, Posts, and/or Rants Thread

[MitchC]

The release of ai is like the release of the internet

Or smartphone apps

It’s one of these once in a lifetime opportunities where the space is just wide open with opportunity because it’s so new

 

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[WillHurtDontCare]

For one of you AI nerds, I am looking for a partner. I want AI to listen to every episode of my radio show and read every post I have ever had on the forum, then I want to create a Kakbot or Kaksistant or Kakretary or Kakvision worldview filter that can provide custom advice based on my brain and I want to charge $5 per month.

I want it to write emails Kak style. I want it to create sales material Kak style. I want it to do strategy Kak style. I want it to tell people how to dress properly for meetings. I want it to hire and fire Kak style. I want it to ask a ton of questions and look at the big picture. I want the learning proposition to basically stomp the daylights out of every course ever while also doing some of the lifting as well. It needs to cite me in the past so anyone can look it up and also tell why it made the leap to the advice it gives.

Seems technically possible. Is this easy yet or still a way off?

Maybe we can even get @Antifragile s content in there as an alternative personality for responses.

If you want to discuss the opportunity and can demonstrate a proficiency in chat bot whatever the heck, just DM me.

DM'd

 

[ZackerySprague]

ChatGPT Wrapper? Does anyone remember the time Kak became a ChatGPT rapper?

Well I do.

Not his finest moment. Now THAT'S an example of where an apology is still owed.

But you needn't worry @ZackerySprague I think you just posted too quickly. Didn't think it completely through.

I don't know ANYONE who does that regularly...

I did post to early, won't happen again. I didn't think clearly on that.

Still can't believe that the board ousted Sam Altman though at OpenAI. Twice.

And the team is loyal to him. That was a huge shock.

 

[ZackerySprague]

I've seen an AI literally do Sales Calls and Support calls. Their was an Advertisement that was circulating Facebook.

Kinda Amazed me to be honest. It actually talked like a human to the consumer and even suggested ways to purchase a product that costed $1,000 dollars in a payment plan lol.

 

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[ZackerySprague]

ChatGPT Wrapper? Does anyone remember the time Kak became a ChatGPT rapper?

Well I do.

Not his finest moment. Now THAT'S an example of where an apology is still owed.

But you needn't worry @ZackerySprague I think you just posted too quickly. Didn't think it completely through.

I don't know ANYONE who does that regularly...

I'll slow down next time and on future posts. But I'd probably should start posting on posts that I have experience with honestly lol.

 

[MattR82]

The offered $200 credit to use at their F1 merch store. We got the credit and it was $200 total. Not $200 per ticket. We bought 6 tickets. So yeah, here’s $33 each for your troubles. Lol

They would have been better off not doing anything.

Now there’s a class action lawsuit.

F1 fans file class-action suit over being forced to exit Las Vegas Grand Prix, while some locals left frustrated

Race officials have since offered a $200 discount at the official gift shop, but only for those who held single-night tickets Thursday.

www.cbsnews.com

The whole thing is so weird and poorly planned. Cars ripping up these covers on street tracks is a well known issue for years now, yet they decide to put the race they invested 500 million into, at a time so late that if there's any delay they won't be able to keep the track/hospitality staff there.

I thought the whole point was to make it in primetime for Americans? Maybe I'm wrong but you guys don't play Football or NBA games at midnight do you lol.

 

[MattR82]

This just happened in front of me while waiting to order a takeaway coffee from a tiny cafe with an outdoor seated area.

Customer: Can I please get a breakfast wrap and a cappuccino?

Cafe: Sure, what table number are you at?

Customer: I don't know, I only just walked in.

Cafe: well I need a table number.

Customer walks out and goes across the road lol.

I hate when they ask me this and I have to leave the queue, look at their tables and walk back in. Must happen to them every few minutes. If this is you, you deserve to be out of business.

 

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[Antifragile]

This just happened in front of me while waiting to order a takeaway coffee from a tiny cafe with an outdoor seated area.

Customer: Can I please get a breakfast wrap and a cappuccino?

Cafe: Sure, what table number are you at?

Customer: I don't know, I only just walked in.

Cafe: well I need a table number.

Customer walks out and goes across the road lol.

I hate when they ask me this and I have to leave the queue, look at their tables and walk back in. Must happen to them every few minutes. If this is you, you deserve to be out of business.

And this is the challenge of employee having "rules" to follow and business owners losing their shirts wondering "how did that happen?". Even the lowest ranking employee has a big impact on the bottom line (or at least a way to make that negative impact truly huge).

I just got a call from Texas number that I didn't recognize. I typically don't pick up, but something pulled me to say "hello".

The girl rumbles some marketing agency name to me and my name, acting like she knows me with "how is it going?".

Perplexed me...
"I am sorry, I can't place you or your firm name, do we know each other?"
"No, this is a cold call we help with marketing"
"Thanks, we are all set on marketing"
"What do you do over there"
*click* and I hung up.

I appreciate how hard cold calls are, I've made thousands early in my life.
But the lesson here is simple: don't lie to me. It's not a good start. Acting like you know me because you managed to get my name, my company name and my number doesn't mean you need pretend like this is a casual call. Deceiving tactics turn me off as my spidy senses go up for being swindled. No thanks.

It is a business call. Tell me up-front, ask me if now is a bad time for me and if not, politely acknowledge you respect my time and will be brief in your pitch.

Example:
Hi Mr. _____, Is now a bad time for a 1 minute call for you?
No, but what is this about?
You don't yet know me but I saw your company's news and have an interesting idea. As this is a cold call, if you are not at all interested feel free to hang up. It'll take me only 60 seconds to articulate if you give me that time.

Boom, how can I say no? No deception, no F*ckery. Pure value for me or worst case I just lost 2 minutes of my time. I'd be fine with that.

P.S. I actually hate cold calls for customer acquisition. Top notch businesses are all set for most services. That's who you want as a client. To get them, you need to displace existing relationships. Cold calls have a near zero probability of that happening. There is a better way. Find a contact through a friend of a friend of a friend if you have to, but have a direct line that give you more than a minute of time. Prepare some work in advance and "gift" it, to entice a change.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

don't lie to me. It's not a good start.

You've just eliminated 97% of all marketing strategy promoted by gurus.

 

[Kak]

To get them, you need to displace existing relrelationships

THIS!!!

Might be the single most important bit of B2B selling gold I have ever read.

If you're going after a big company, they didn't get big by making stupid choices. You can bet that their current suppliers and services are good. Damn good. You have to be better.

Better even sometimes doesn't get it done. I recently had a large company tell me that my company would only save them about $1.5 million a year, so they decided to stay with what they know. I believe I'll get their business eventually, but deciding not to erode the relationship with their current supplier is currently valued at more than $1.5 million...

 

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[MitchC]

THIS!!!

Might be the single most important bit of B2B selling gold I have ever read.

If you're going after a big company, they didn't get big by making stupid choices. You can bet that their current suppliers and services are good. Damn good. You have to be better.

I don’t get any cold calls but I get a lot of cold emails from agencies etc in my ecommerce business

My first thought when I get cold emails is this business must suck

What kind of shitty business doesn’t have a book full of clients and referrals or an acquisition strategy and brand good enough that they have to resort to cold emails and cold calls to get clients

I think this mostly applies to agencies, I imagine cold calling specific industries with a specific product or service may be received better

 

[biophase]

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The whole thing is so weird and poorly planned. Cars ripping up these covers on street tracks is a well known issue for years now, yet they decide to put the race they invested 500 million into, at a time so late that if there's any delay they won't be able to keep the track/hospitality staff there.

I thought the whole point was to make it in primetime for Americans? Maybe I'm wrong but you guys don't play Football or NBA games at midnight do you lol.

It was late so they didn’t have to close the roads during the daytime.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

I'll slow down next time and on future posts. But I'd probably should start posting on posts that I have experience with honestly lol.

Bro the whole reason that people come to this forum is because we think most people are wrong. By all means share a controversial opinion.

 

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[MitchC]

I'll slow down next time and on future posts. But I'd probably should start posting on posts that I have experience with honestly lol.

There’s no right or wrong answer you shared your thoughts

If you didn’t do that we wouldn’t have had all these other people share theirs

That’s what this forum is for, sharing thoughts and discussing ideas

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

If you're going after a big company, they didn't get big by making stupid choices. You can bet that their current suppliers and services are good. Damn good. You have to be better.

I'll bite on this one - after having worked for fortune 500 companies, they hire some overpriced morons. You'd be surprised at the mediocre work you get from overpaid people.

P.S. I actually hate cold calls for customer acquisition. Top notch businesses are all set for most services. That's who you want as a client. To get them, you need to displace existing relationships. Cold calls have a near zero probability of that happening. There is a better way. Find a contact through a friend of a friend of a friend if you have to, but have a direct line that give you more than a minute of time. Prepare some work in advance and "gift" it, to entice a change.

I agree that you should take the creative approach and try to get someone to introduce you because it makes everything so much easier. However, if you have a prospect whose business you really want and you can't get an introduction, cold call and shoot your shot.



ZoomInfo did over a billion in revenue last year selling phone numbers, emails, and targeting info. Cold calls and cold emails work. Just have a good offer and put effort into talking with them.

Also, sometimes good relationships turn into bad relationships. Cold calling and cold emailing could lead to you catching them when a relationship is starting to sour.

Example:
Hi Mr. _____, Is now a bad time for a 1 minute call for you?
No, but what is this about?
You don't yet know me but I saw your company's news and have an interesting idea. As this is a cold call, if you are not at all interested feel free to hang up. It'll take me only 60 seconds to articulate if you give me that time.

This is actually a great cold calling script. It disarms people because of the candor. I'd just say "Hi Mr. Name" then jump into the "You don't know me yet..." part.

 

[BizyDad]

DM'd

Please help this man. His abilities with AI, are just so...

Well, here, see for yourself.

Instead of apoligizin I'm gonna spit a dope rap on this!

(Verse 1)
Yo, I borrowed your ride, didn't mean to flex,
Just needed some wheels, to cash my checks.
Haters gonna hate, their faces all vexed,
But it's just a car, no need for the stress.

(Chorus)
So I'm saying sorry, but not that sorry,
It's just a whip, don't start the worry.
Haters gonna hate, but I'm feeling jolly,
Living my life, like a Hollywood folly.

(Verse 2)
They say I'm a thug, but I just laugh,
Just ate your sandwich, left you the half.
It was an accident, no need for the gaffe,
It's just a sandwich, not a golden calf.

(Chorus)
So I'm saying sorry, but not that sorry,
It's just a sandwich, don't start the worry.
Haters gonna hate, but I'm feeling jolly,
Living my life, like a Hollywood folly.

(Outro)
So here's my apology, take it with a smirk,
I'm just being me, ain't no jerk.
Haters gonna hate, but I'm just gonna twerk,
Living my life, it's my best work.

Wow it's like it knows me.

Men and women of the jury, I rest my case.

This is actually a great cold calling script. It disarms people because of the candor. I'd just say "Hi Mr. Name" then jump into the "You don't know me yet..." part.

Back when I was doing my hundreds of cold calls, I used to religiously track results for my scripts. I used to make small tweaks and test them over the course of a couple of weeks. I tested something very similar to AF's script. I tested both jumping in and asking permission.

Keep in mind at the time I was either calling to pitch financial service appointments or pitch an educational seminar (which would lead to appointments for financial services)

Jumping in got the words out more consistently. Jumping in got me to pitch more people.

Asking permission led to more appointments and more kept appointments. If memory serves, it was 18% more effective. So the improvement was significant, but not so large that you would actually notice, unless you track it.

Asking permission = less dials and better results.

Side note, I also briefly tested asking if it was a good time versus asking if it was a bad time.

Spoiler alert, it's never a good time. Those calls did not go well at all. The rate of hostility was highest on those calls.

 

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[WillHurtDontCare]

Spoiler alert, it's never a good time. Those calls did not go well at all. The rate of hostility was highest on those calls.

lmao, that's exactly why I cut that part out.

 

[BizyDad]

lmao, that's exactly why I cut that part out.

Right, but...

He asked if it was a BAD time. That works. Works better than jumping into the script. Or at least it did for me, hence I suggest others test it and track results.

In contrast, asking if it is a GOOD time was horrible.

It was always funny how one little word could lead to such different reactions. I kept everything else the same, or as close as possible.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Right, but...

He asked if it was a BAD time. That works. Works better than jumping into the script. Or at least it did for me, hence I suggest others test it and track results.

In contrast, asking if it is a GOOD time was horrible.

It was always funny how one little word could lead to such different reactions. I kept everything else the same, or as close as possible.

Ahh, very interesting. That difference I never split tested (I only did so much cold calling)

 

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[MattR82]

And this is the challenge of employee having "rules" to follow and business owners losing their shirts wondering "how did that happen?". Even the lowest ranking employee has a big impact on the bottom line (or at least a way to make that negative impact truly huge).

I feel like it's a case of just bad management though, not really anything to do with the employee. If the owner/manager were good at what they did, they'd have a better system, like handing table numbers out or showing a little table map. They're literally sending people AWAY from the cash register lol.
Seems to happen in about 10 to 20% of the cafes and coffee shops I go to. Dumb.

One of the best things I've heard on this forum before, many years ago, was "Don't make me think." One of the most basic and important rules that seems to get forgotten by businesses all the time.

 

[Kevin88660]

Well I could be wrong to and that I'm okay with. Maybe the opportunity won't be congested.

But my point was for the Commandment of control. You would be too dependent on AI or say the OpenAI API to perform your tasks, but what if It gets cut off and now you can no longer use the service.

I see everyone running towards the technology since it's introduction.

The company I work for actually built their application from ground up, they have control because they created it and aren't dependent on others except the services to run their app or host the data.

They can hire/fire clients. The FIs are dependent on their software and pay them. If they don't, the FIs will not able to operate or customers ro deposit their cash/onboard with their banking of choice.

It's too early to tell how be trend will turn out I think we are all doing guess work.

The risk of being in the AI software business is that all the businesses are mutually disruptive against one another. In the traditional software we have one software for different purpose in the AI world the smartest people are creating ai software that make other ai softwares redundant. I feel that it’s a winner take all industry that extremely few can be the winner left standing.

The problem of entry in the cyber space everyone can compete against you. There is technical barrier of entry but there isn’t a geographical barrier of entry. The smartest people in the world can always kill your business very quickly. Right now I am still paying for pdf related SASS. Such service might be gone in 1-2 years as AI advances most simple service becomes free and open source.

A chatgpt API’s business biggest competitor is chatgpt itself. The ultimate goal of chatgpt is to evolve itself to be so user friendly that any other plug in becomes unnecessary, if not at least not worth paying for.

A safe bet now is just to accelerate your existing business and life with chatgpt everywhere possible. As we interact with chatgpt we become smarter and begin to feed chatgpt smarter questions to have more real life impact. Always assume chatgpt knows better about everything than ourselves unless clearly proven otherwise.

 

[MattR82]

It was late so they didn’t have to close the roads during the daytime.

Still quite late though, running till after midnight. I'm sure they could have run it an hour or 2 earlier like the other street circuits around the world.

 

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[ZackerySprague]

So funny that I was talking about API key's, using one from Google Cloud to use a software called LeadsGorilla to prospect potential businesses for Web Design Services.

Pretty Neat.

 

[ZF Lee]

Sometimes you may think what you are currently working on is good...until it isn't.

Few weeks ago, I got hit by acid reflux right during my grandma's birthday dinner. Suddenly felt that somewhere in my stomach was stuck, and bile kept gathering in my throat. No amount of hot water drank would wash them down.

I had read before that it was caused by eating too big, or some trigger allergy food...and only had it once before very, very long ago after a big dinner.

I overreacted and was so distressed that I got an x-ray done immediately. And blood work.

The doctor found I had some constipation-- and my cholesterol was not good. LDL and other markers a few points above the benchmark.

The thing is that my toilet time before this wasn't so bad until I was fighting to shit hard stools out. I'm not the kind to take all the fried and sweet stuff on a daily basis.

The only weaknesses I know I have are lack of more intense exercise (outside of the treadmill at gym), and me eating takeaway to compensate for lack of time (and mental energy) to cook. I did my best to pick takeaway that had balanced foods, but of course it ain't going to be as healthy as home-cooked for many reasons. I ate fruits regularly...a lot of eggs for breakfast.

I was SO down and embarrassed that the acid reflux happened in a family event.

Also very sad that even though I DEFINITELY lived healthier than MOST folks I know, as imperfect as I am, it all wasn't enough to keep my body working. For the first time in my life, I start blaming everyone around me for not buying me greens to eat...my social network for not helping me to cultivate a better health-driven environment...well everything.

Even got into a spat with my parents on this.

(they may know choke-tons on what they think is good for me...but bad at being sounding boards to just listen when someone is feeling very down)

After many hours in blame-mode, I was left numb.

All that remained in my head was just a few steps I could think of to get my body back in shape.

And I did these:

1. To eat out WAY less, I subscribed to a meal prep delivery service that basically sent over prepped veges and chicken that I could just heat up. Honestly I could have made my own chicken breast and baked veges...but if someone can do it better and faster than me...why not have them help?

2. Killed 90% of carbs like rice and noodles. I still ate some potatoes, but only as a side dish and if the menu didn't have anything else (when eating out)

3. Every start of the week, I would load up the shopping cart with raw veges and fruits like cucumbers, cherry tomatos, blueberries, etc. More than before. Washed them all at one go so I can just chew on them throughout the week.

4. Started intermittent fasting to give my gut some break-time...usually skipped breakfast.
There's a lot of debate out there on whether breakfast is REALLY the most important meal of the day or some conspiracy spun up by the cereal companies...but I chose to skip breakfast because that was usually work time.

Stopped eating after 10pm...not even a snack.

5. Bought some mixed fibres-probiotic mix:

https://www.deslimmalaysia.com/en/?page_id=213081

Recommended by my dad...took it every night after dinner.
The label said it would get me to the loo more often to deal with the constipation, but I only went to the washroom once per day.

I think there could be cheaper options for the gut like prunes and yoghurt...but these are just passive foods. that take time to set in. For now, I need immediate stuffs to clear me quickly.

6. Raised my exercise time from once a week to three times a week.
This is a laughable amount of time...but I got work and clients to do.

For now I'm still stuck 45-mins to 1 hour at the treadmill, but I hopped onto YouTube to emulate some dumbbells routines. I don't have any intention to build muscle for now...I just want to get my body working.

7. Update my social environment
After this acid reflux incident (and a separate car accident), I realised how limited my time and health actually were.

I stepped back from many social gatherings (even with mentor-figures) to rest and have more time for myself.
I also realised this year I had helped at too many charity events at church and elsewhere. They weren't bad activities and much was learnt-- but could I have made a better impact if I had MORE money, skills, networking and health?

I left my youth cell group for good. It was the last remaining circle of folks my age...I don't know WHY I stayed so long with them, or even wasted time debating with them on many menial issues. Maybe because I joined it since college...so the sentimentality held me back.

But when I thought carefully if I was willing to fight traffic weekly...just to go to their meetings, listen to un-dynamic, mediocre people give their surface-level opinions on the Holy Writ...and dismiss almost every of my ideas on improving life as 'too adult' or 'generalizing everyone'...then WHY GO?

I thought about finding new social groups to replace them once I was better.

I felt a bit lighter when I realised I had options open now.

Go for some gym group class? Ask my mentor-figures for admission to their country club? Hit up the church's business mastermind (where I come from, it charges a fee for membership, so it's not a light decision)?

Go buy a good course that has a mastermind?

I haven't bought a course in AGES...but after reading some stuff from Chris Orz and Troy Ericson...I was thinking of getting their stuffs on email list management. It's a step-up from the usual email copy work I do, but if it can help add more value and I meet with more hard workers out there, why not?

My only requirement for the new social circles to take on must be that they have to have an entry barrier of some sort (money, camaraderie, time, etc). They cannot be another sleazy free Meetup.com session that sends me to Amway.

But honestly this is at the bottom of my list...I want to focus on health first.

So far I think something works, because my eczema cooled down enough for me to go back to lotion...my stomach doesn't feel bloated anymore...and no acid reflux came back.

 

[matteblack]

People who need the money the most end up becoming so blind that they cant think of anything other than it
Yet people who are self sufficient and have enough money ,can think of beyond money ,and dive into the realm of providing value that they end up earning the most

 

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[Antifragile]

Side note, I also briefly tested asking if it was a good time versus asking if it was a bad time.

Spoiler alert, it's never a good time. Those calls did not go well at all. The rate of hostility was highest on those calls.

There is a subtle but important difference:

GOOD
(A)
"is now a bad time?"
"ah, yes... I am about to..."
"ok, what is a better time?"
(B)
"is now a bad time?"
"ah, no actually... I am about to..."
"ok, 60 seconds - you can time me!"

VS

BAD

"is now a good time?"
"no." + ... *hostility*

NEVER a good time! But often not a bad time.

Give that random person permission to say NO and hostility goes down.

Early in my career I've made thousands of cold calls, lately I've done zero. I was very good at it and lessons stayed for close to 20 years, served me over and over again... From starting my first business till now.
(I can't believe I am using such timeframes, dating myself here)

Lately I do pitches for board approvals etc. Same logic holds.


P.S. Hope some of you youngsters find this helpful as you try to get random people to just listen to your spiel.

 

[BizyDad]

Sometimes you may think what you are currently working on is good...until it isn't.

Few weeks ago, I got hit by acid reflux right during my grandma's birthday dinner. Suddenly felt that somewhere in my stomach was stuck, and bile kept gathering in my throat. No amount of hot water drank would wash them down.

I had read before that it was caused by eating too big, or some trigger allergy food...and only had it once before very, very long ago after a big dinner.

I overreacted and was so distressed that I got an x-ray done immediately. And blood work.

The doctor found I had some constipation-- and my cholesterol was not good. LDL and other markers a few points above the benchmark.

The thing is that my toilet time before this wasn't so bad until I was fighting to shit hard stools out. I'm not the kind to take all the fried and sweet stuff on a daily basis.

The only weaknesses I know I have are lack of more intense exercise (outside of the treadmill at gym), and me eating takeaway to compensate for lack of time (and mental energy) to cook. I did my best to pick takeaway that had balanced foods, but of course it ain't going to be as healthy as home-cooked for many reasons. I ate fruits regularly...a lot of eggs for breakfast.

I was SO down and embarrassed that the acid reflux happened in a family event.

Also very sad that even though I DEFINITELY lived healthier than MOST folks I know, as imperfect as I am, it all wasn't enough to keep my body working. For the first time in my life, I start blaming everyone around me for not buying me greens to eat...my social network for not helping me to cultivate a better health-driven environment...well everything.

Even got into a spat with my parents on this.

(they may know choke-tons on what they think is good for me...but bad at being sounding boards to just listen when someone is feeling very down)

After many hours in blame-mode, I was left numb.

All that remained in my head was just a few steps I could think of to get my body back in shape.

And I did these:

1. To eat out WAY less, I subscribed to a meal prep delivery service that basically sent over prepped veges and chicken that I could just heat up. Honestly I could have made my own chicken breast and baked veges...but if someone can do it better and faster than me...why not have them help?

2. Killed 90% of carbs like rice and noodles. I still ate some potatoes, but only as a side dish and if the menu didn't have anything else (when eating out)

3. Every start of the week, I would load up the shopping cart with raw veges and fruits like cucumbers, cherry tomatos, blueberries, etc. More than before. Washed them all at one go so I can just chew on them throughout the week.

4. Started intermittent fasting to give my gut some break-time...usually skipped breakfast.
There's a lot of debate out there on whether breakfast is REALLY the most important meal of the day or some conspiracy spun up by the cereal companies...but I chose to skip breakfast because that was usually work time.

Stopped eating after 10pm...not even a snack.

5. Bought some mixed fibres-probiotic mix:

https://www.deslimmalaysia.com/en/?page_id=213081

Recommended by my dad...took it every night after dinner.
The label said it would get me to the loo more often to deal with the constipation, but I only went to the washroom once per day.

I think there could be cheaper options for the gut like prunes and yoghurt...but these are just passive foods. that take time to set in. For now, I need immediate stuffs to clear me quickly.

6. Raised my exercise time from once a week to three times a week.
This is a laughable amount of time...but I got work and clients to do.

For now I'm still stuck 45-mins to 1 hour at the treadmill, but I hopped onto YouTube to emulate some dumbbells routines. I don't have any intention to build muscle for now...I just want to get my body working.

7. Update my social environment
After this acid reflux incident (and a separate car accident), I realised how limited my time and health actually were.

I stepped back from many social gatherings (even with mentor-figures) to rest and have more time for myself.
I also realised this year I had helped at too many charity events at church and elsewhere. They weren't bad activities and much was learnt-- but could I have made a better impact if I had MORE money, skills, networking and health?

I left my youth cell group for good. It was the last remaining circle of folks my age...I don't know WHY I stayed so long with them, or even wasted time debating with them on many menial issues. Maybe because I joined it since college...so the sentimentality held me back.

But when I thought carefully if I was willing to fight traffic weekly...just to go to their meetings, listen to un-dynamic, mediocre people give their surface-level opinions on the Holy Writ...and dismiss almost every of my ideas on improving life as 'too adult' or 'generalizing everyone'...then WHY GO?

I thought about finding new social groups to replace them once I was better.

I felt a bit lighter when I realised I had options open now.

Go for some gym group class? Ask my mentor-figures for admission to their country club? Hit up the church's business mastermind (where I come from, it charges a fee for membership, so it's not a light decision)?

Go buy a good course that has a mastermind?

I haven't bought a course in AGES...but after reading some stuff from Chris Orz and Troy Ericson...I was thinking of getting their stuffs on email list management. It's a step-up from the usual email copy work I do, but if it can help add more value and I meet with more hard workers out there, why not?

My only requirement for the new social circles to take on must be that they have to have an entry barrier of some sort (money, camaraderie, time, etc). They cannot be another sleazy free Meetup.com session that sends me to Amway.

But honestly this is at the bottom of my list...I want to focus on health first.

So far I think something works, because my eczema cooled down enough for me to go back to lotion...my stomach doesn't feel bloated anymore...and no acid reflux came back.

That is quite a strong reaction to a little acid reflux and constipation.

I am a little concerned for your family when you experience joint aches from age.

(Joking, I'm only joking)

 

[Kak]

That is quite a strong reaction to a little acid reflux and constipation.

I am a little concerned for your family when you experience joint aches from age.

(Joking, I'm only joking)

@ZF Lee about to address his family after his first headache.

 

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[ZF Lee]

That is quite a strong reaction to a little acid reflux and constipation.

I am a little concerned for your family when you experience joint aches from age.

(Joking, I'm only joking)

Yes, admittedly so.

Still, it may be better to spring into action earlier, rather than get the doctor's diagnosis later that you have something alien growing in your gut.

My family (especially the male figures) have a history of F*cking up their health with greasy foods and smoking until they are older and they have to get a stent for the heart or something. This cycle has to stop with me-- so for all these 'symptoms' to come up does alarm me.

I realise that health is the WEAKEST point for a lot of people...even successful Fastlaners.
Of all my current mentor figures (whom I meet physically), only one has it figured out. Interesting profile as a stem cell practitioner...qigong expert.

He is in his sixties, but he has skin like a baby's and keeps sending photos to our group chat on the many eateries he visits and reviews on Google Reviews. Told me why cholesterol-hating is BS (its vital for hormones)...why you shouldn't avoid eating egg-yolks...why full marathons are suicide and why sportspeople live shorter...many things.

I need to expand my social circle better in health areas. I'm an introvert, but I do find that when I am with people who have results that I desire, I do improve and move in that direction.

 

[Kak]

Yes, admittedly so.

Still, it may be better to spring into action earlier, rather than get the doctor's diagnosis later that you have something alien growing in your gut.

My family (especially the male figures) have a history of F*cking up their health with greasy foods and smoking until they are older and they have to get a stent for the heart or something. This cycle has to stop with me-- so for all these 'symptoms' to come up does alarm me.

I realise that health is the WEAKEST point for a lot of people...even successful Fastlaners.
Of all my current mentor figures (whom I meet physically), only one has it figured out. Interesting profile as a stem cell practitioner...qigong expert.

He is in his sixties, but he has skin like a baby's and keeps sending photos to our group chat on the many eateries he visits and reviews on Google Reviews. Told me why cholesterol-hating is BS (its vital for hormones)...why you shouldn't avoid eating egg-yolks...why full marathons are suicide and why sportspeople live shorter...many things.

I need to expand my social circle better in health areas. I'm an introvert, but I do find that when I am with people who have results that I desire, I do improve and move in that direction.

Break the cycle. Very important. We are not trapped by our family's bs cycle, but we are predisposed to the junk we are surrounded by if we don't break the cycle.

I broke the smoking and drinking cycles of my dad, who was a great dad, but died young.

It's important to remember that you have a lot of life to live ahead of you without your family's direct input. I don't know when you'll move out, but one day you will, and your decisions will be solely yours to make.

For now. Eat what your momma makes and like it.