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GOLD! How to Learn Code, Start a Web Company, $15k+ per month within 9 months

Discussion in 'Hustles, Freelancing, Bootstrapping' started by Fox, Sep 7, 2016.

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    You can make this part of your life by talking about it more.

    How's it going, Fast? Oh great, having fun building some more web sites for clients.

    What about this rain, Fast? I don't mind, it lets me stay in and code a couple more web sites.

    Want some chopsticks for your sushi, Fast? Sure, that's not as complicated as what I had to code for a web site yesterday.

    If you keep bringing it up in passing, people are going to start thinking of you as the website guy.
     
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    Quite right Thomas, you could literally spend your whole life trying to master all of these technologies and never actually achieve anything of value. I regularly fall into the same trap - there are people developing new shiny toys faster than I can possibly learn them. I thought I'd never be able to do a web project until I was fully proficient in JavaScript (including the yearly updates to the language), JQuery, Node, React, Ember, Angular, Grunt, Gulp, npm, bower, less, sass... the list just goes on for ever.

    Some of these frameworks and tools are designed to solve specific problems (problems that you probably don't have), and some are just the result of computer techs wanting to make something cooler and better than what has gone before. The creators of these things aren't necessarily creating to fulfil a business need; they are thinking like a tech and not an owner/boss/entrepreneur wanting to make some big, fast money.

    You won't need any of it, unless you're applying for a specific job in coding with a company, or you're developing a complex web app. By that time you'll know what you need and why. HTML and CSS will get you a functional, fast, clean website.

    And if there's something you consistently find yourself doing over and over again that you suddenly wish there was an easier way, or a way to automate it, or was easier to structure, then probably one of the above tools will help out.

    Sure these things can be useful and cool, but not essential for our business needs. I just spent two days learning grunt and gulp, only to realise at the end that I don't actually need a workflow! I can easily create a few folders myself, copy a bit of code and get cracking. I just got caught up in too many tech blogs and things you 'must know as a web developer'. Grrr!
     
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    Great post Fox. I havent read it all yet but their is some excellent stuff on here. I feel like packing my bags and moving to Spain and starting my own online business after reading this.
     
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    I Read this thread about 2 weeks ago and couldn't stop thinking about it. I bought the web school course, a Udemy coding course and a copywriting course. I am working on them every day and night and I'm moving to Spain on September 15th. I'm going all in on this and I'm sure I will be ready before I make the move. I will definitely make a progress thread when I start getting sales.
     
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    This is more than a gold thread! Fantastic

    I went to spain a month ago and I definitely loved it, I plan on moving there soon too

    @Fox can I send you a private message? It's not a question about how this or that works, I'd have asked here. I promise it won't take more than a minute to read it
     
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    Just got done reading this complete thread stretching over an entire week and wanted to say thank you to everyone who has contributed and especially @Fox. I am new to the forum and have learnt so much from this thread and the input given.

    As i went through i bookmarked many links and saved them all in a semi-organised way for future reference and use. Hopefully this doesn't break any rules and can be used by others who are just finishing or new to this post like me. This is my way of contributing (I hope!).

    Thanks again!

    {READING MATERIALS}

    “Web Design: Only started in Jan this year, making over $10,000 consistently every month. Lots of lessons...AMA -”r/Entrepreneur - Web Design: Only started in Jan this year, making over $10,000 consistently every month. Lots of lessons... AMA

    “Breaking the time barrier” - https://www.freshbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/breaking-the-time-barrier.pdf

    “AndyTalks with Fox about Selling Websites & AdWords Services” - AndyTalks with Fox about Selling Websites & AdWords Services

    “How I blew up a business for under $60” - How I Blew Up A Business For Under $60

    “AndyTalks to Nico about Graphic Design & Selling Services” - AndyTalks to Nico about Graphic Design & Selling Services

    “AndyTalks with SinisterLex about Selling & Scaling” - AndyTalks with SinisterLex about Selling & Scaling

    “Cold calls: I went from nothing to $120k/year solo using this process. Script included. AMA” -Cold calls: I went from nothing to $120k/year solo using this process. Script included. AMA • r/Entrepreneur

    “Spend your money on diesel and coffee” - "Spend your money on diesel and coffee"

    “The "Astonishing Secrets" Thread” - GOLD! - The "Astonishing Secrets" Thread

    “germandude's Guide to Naming Your Brand!” - germandude's Guide to Naming Your Brand!

    “The biggest reason websites suck” - NOTABLE! - The biggest reason websites suck

    “How To Socratically Question New Project Leads” - How To Socratically Question New Project Leads - Double Your Freelancing

    “Lead Gen for Local Service Businesses” - Lead Gen for Local Service Businesses

    “10 cold email tips I used to get 60,000 signups” - 10 cold email tips I used to get 60,000 signups – Marketing and Entrepreneurship – Medium

    My list of technologies I use to create static websites in the most organized and efficient way + how to host 100% for free - r/learnprogramming - My list of technologies I use to create static websites in the most organized and efficient way + how to host 100% for free

    “How Loading Time Affects Your Bottom Line” - https://neilpatel.com/blog/loading-time/

    {COURSES/VIDEO TUTORIALS}

    Build Responsive Real World Websites with HTML5 and CSS3 (Jonas Schmedtmann) - Build Responsive Real World Websites with HTML5 and CSS3

    The complete JavaScript Course 2018 (Jonas Schmedtmann) - https://www.udemy.com/the-complete-javascript-course/

    Web Design for Web Developers: Build Beautiful Websites! (Jonas Schmedtmann) - https://www.udemy.com/web-design-secrets/

    The Web Developer Bootcamp (Colt Steele) https://www.udemy.com/the-web-developer-bootcamp/

    JavaScript For Beginners : Learn JavaScript From Scratch (Ashitosh Pawar) - https://www.udemy.com/javascript-course-for-beginners/

    The Complete Web Developer Course 2.0 (Rob Percival) - https://www.udemy.com/the-complete-web-developer-course-2/

    Get Job ready with 13 projects, 2 courses, and 10 books - https://github.com/P1xt/p1xt-guides/blob/master/job-ready.md

    https://www.codecademy.com/learn

    https://www.freecodecamp.org/

    https://learncodethehardway.org/

    Building Websites with a HTML Template - 2018 Step by Step Tutorial (FoxWebSchool) -
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25kLPVowGGg


    How to Buy, Download, Install and Set up a HTML Website Theme (FoxWebDesign) -
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNPrtZU72vE


    How to Sell a Website - Successful $3,000 Website Sales Call (FoxWebSchool) -
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5O1lQ6pM9s


    TheNetNinja - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW5YeuERMmlnqo4oq8vwUpg

    {USEFUL WEBSITES TOOLS}

    X | The Theme - https://themeforest.net/item/x-the-theme/5871901

    WordPress - https://wordpress.org/

    Graphic Design Software - https://www.designmantic.com/

    DIVI - https://www.divithemeexamples.com/divi-layouts/ + https://dribbble.com/MarioMaruffi + https://layoutscafe.com/

    Website Management - https://managewp.com/

    Free CSS templates/layouts - https://www.free-css.com/

    File Transfer - https://filezilla-project.org/

    WampServer - http://www.wampserver.com/en/

    Zeit - https://zeit.co/

    Semantic User Interface - https://semantic-ui.com/

    Bootstrap themes and templates - https://startbootstrap.com/

    {USEFUL BUSINESS/SALES/MARKETING TOOLS}

    Small Business Accounting - https://www.freshbooks.com/

    Website Data - https://www.similarweb.com/

    Email tracking - https://vocus.io/ + https://www.cirrusinsight.com/

    Productivity Platform - https://trello.com/

    Google Calendar Events - https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37161?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop&hl=en

    Service providers by location - https://www.angieslist.com/companylist/

    Cold email template - http://www.breakthroughemail.com/coldemailtemplate.pdf

    Data source - https://www.import.io/

    SEO - https://www.semrush.com/ + https://moz.com/

    Website Questionnaire - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfIqJrS17a_nNj3_GmWpH__TIeKaW37gnwt7Lp59fscBiAH-Q/viewform

    Web design pricing - https://www.webpagefx.com/websitedesign.htm
     
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    Wow. Welcome to the forum and thanks for a super high value intro post.

    Glad this thread and others helped. Let us know how we can help you in return.

    +Rep
     
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    Hi, I have a question

    How can you make sure that you don't lose SEO ranking when you redo a website?

    It could be dramatic for a company if they're ranked page 1 and when you redo the website they fall page 2, 3 or more

    @Fox (or anyone who have a bit of experience) have you ever experienced a loss in rankings after your new website? If not, what did you do to avoid that?

    Thank you!
     
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    Without getting into technical SEO a site that has a better user experience, is more specific to exactly what the user wants, and covers all the SEO bases is going to rise in ranking.

    At the end of the day though I look at things from a sales perspective. If they have a site that isn't selling then focus on ranking isn't optimal. But good selling systems usually closely link in with what google wants anyway.
     
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    I had this problem with 2 websites. But the good news is that most companies don't even know how they're doing on Google. Now, I would recommend to use WP because this has more useful plugins for a steady SEO.
     
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    Thanks for your answer

    Does that mean when you redo a website ranked page 1 or 2 you don't really do anything to make sure it keeps its ranking other than creating a website with a good user experience? And with that strategy you've never experienced a bad situation like a page or 2 lost in rankings?

    Thanks for your answer too

    I'm not sure that most companies don't even know how they're doing on Google haha but yeah I guess a lot don't know

    Even if they don't know though, it could be terrible for them. Let's see a quick example with fantasy numbers

    Website A, sh*tty, doesn't convert much but ranked page 1
    8k visitors/day, converts 1%. That's 80 clients

    Website B, new design new copywriting new everything, killer website, converts 2x better than website A but now is ranked page 2 or 3
    3k visitors/day, converts 2%. That's 60 clients

    It converts better but the loss in rankings killed this asset. Obviously the figures are fantasy but it's just to illustrate that a good ranking might be more interesting than a killer website. Pretty much an illustration of "quantity over quality"

    And since we're aiming to provide value, it could be hard to justify that even if the website is way better and converts more at the end of the day figures are pretty much the same

    That's why i'm trying to know if I can be sure that i'm not going to lose the ranking of a website, that's the only thing that holds me back tbh
     
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    You are right with your numbers, but not all clients get a lot of sales from their website. So simply restyling it can already make a big difference.

    If your client is really concerned about SEO, go with WP with free Yoast plugin. You can do it with html too, but you'll have to figure it out yourself then (xml-sitemaps for example).
     
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    As @Fox mentioned in his reply, you cover the SEO bases.

    You would keep the same site structure and page urls (if this is not possible, then add redirects from old to new urls), so old links will still be active and google won't see any dead links/pages.

    In terms of onpage SEO, again you would try to keep a similar structure in terms of headings, but by improving the user experience of these pages which in turn will increase the conversions, the bounce/exit rates will drop which from Google's point of view, shows that these pages are of value to the user which should increase its rankings.

    There may be an initial drop in rankings when the new site first goes live, but by informing Google of these changes - submitting sitemaps through the Search Console, for example, should alleviate or minimise this as much as possible.
     
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    Welcome to the forum! If you want check out the intro thread so you can make a post.

    Good points above.
     
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    This is brilliant man. Thanks so much.
     
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    Holy smokes, that's a lot of consolidated value in a post. Thank you so much for doing this.
     
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    Fox, I spent 5 hours today reading through this awesome thread. As many others have said, you're the man for investing so much time in this. I am wondering, in mid 2018 do you see freelance web design as a field that's becoming saturated / is there space for folks who are newer to find business? My instincts tell me yes, but it feels worth asking. My question is motivated after seeing stuff like this:

    r/webdev - Is Web Development a Dying Profession?
     
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    The answer is somewhere in the middle.

    Nothing is stopping someone from being a professional photographer but only a select few can charge $5k to shoot your wedding photographs. Results, reputation, and value is what will separate you from the herd. I am learning this as I attempt a web design business myself.

    I would rank web development alongside with real estate agents. %80 of the business is being taken by 20% of the BEST web designers. Everyone else fights for scraps.

    Learning how to sell is probably more important than doing the actual coding. I've seen "professional" web development agencies with offices here in my city that do TERRRIBLE work. That should leave plenty of oppurtunities for freelance workers. The question is how many people are willing to pick up the phone and try to sell? Not many.....
     
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    Thanks

    There is still massive opportunity but you need to be able to think big picture. Its not just a website anymore - its a sales system. You got to understand the user behaviour before and after they use the site.

    Also understanding the companies sales system. What do they want these people to do? What can you help with and what should you leave till later? What actions should you try develop and what different directions should you send people in?

    If you focus on sales (more than design) you will always be in demand. It is extremely hard for advanced sales to be automated or outsourced cheaply.

    Also keep in mind that:
    - more businesses need a new website everyday
    - old websites age out, break, need updating etc
    - many web designers move on to their own things once experienced

    So it still has massive opportunity but it needs the right approach.
     
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    This thread really put into perspective on things I understood to a degree but not to this extent. I've read through most of this thread but will have to reread and take notes on specific posts. GOLD/PLATINUM/EPIC.
     
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    Let me just say, I take back whatever nonsense I was saying earlier about worrying about this niche being saturated. Good grief, there are so many bad sites out there. I spent and hour looking and found over 50.
     
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    Yes. Just remember they are bad for a reason and the effort lies in finding businesses that want and need a good website. Most of them don't use them and don't need them (or don't have the right mindset).
     
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    That's only 1 part of the problem. The best web designers making the big bucks are also the best Salesman. You have to sell them on the idea that redesigning the site is in their best interest. It's a tough business so far from what I've learned...
     
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    Yea, that's a good point.

    I can see that being the case. North of a million folks have done the codecademy stuff from what I saw, so I'm sure as with any red ocean the spoils are going to the top 10% salesmen.
     
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    The thing this thread really pulled me out of is all the developers that get stuck in code land and never see who is paying their bills. Many of those principles are important in certain applications but beyond that, they just make them a good employee in a specific part of the company.
     
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