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Yes. We have a fundamentally different definition. I'm using the definition from the original Fastlane book, which seems sensible, because this forum is based on and named after it. Here's a reminder:

To be clear, I agree with you that freelancing is NOT a strong business model, and shouldn't be what entrepreneurs aspire to, although I've kind of been boxed into that area as a result of personal branding. For example, YouTube won't even let me talk about bigger entrepreneurial topics. My channel is boxed into the category "Upwork." I can't even talk about general freelance topics if I want my videos to be seen.

That's why I don't post about freelancing or copywriting much except to answer questions from time to time. If I talk about it, then it promotes the idea that those things define me, but they don't, and I have a lot of work to do to break away from that image. It's collateral forum damage I didn't see coming.

I do have courses running as forum promos. The courses are $10 and the forum promo cost is one way I support the forum. They're Udemy courses so I don't have to be actively engaged with the topic, and nobody has to expect much from me, but those who are going to freelance anyway can still benefit from years of insights. I also have an Inside thread detailing step-by-step how to grow a Udemy business into a full-time semi-passive income for anyone who wants to learn that.

Anyway, I do get the frustration because I've felt it too. The courses and coaching stuff don't bother me because everyone has to be their own boss and make their own good and bad decisions. But I get the frustration with people not aspiring to greater heights and sometimes I want things to be different. The only way I know how to make that happen is to just keep doing my own thing, showing people that you can have whatever you want. You just have to make it happen.
 
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You are putting words in my mouth. I never said that the podcast is bad. But this discussion about it is a circle jerk.






It's interesting that suddenly everything revolves about the EO membership fee, when the main point of my post was that their strict rules make it so valuable.


Thats a pretty good post.

Yes. We have a fundamentally different definition. I'm using the definition from the original Fastlane book, which seems sensible, because this forum is based on and named after it. Here's a reminder:



Sounds pretty clear to me. And last I checked this forum is still called "The Fastlane Forum". So it's not a stretch to expect this mindset here. But it seems like I lost touch with the forum consensus.


Not really. I like to kick the hornets nest sometimes, but I think we are actually having a good discussion about this now.


It's both. Probably more the disconnect that @Lex DeVille described. But the problem on my side is easy to solve: I just go back to my exclusive high class 5k EO private echo chamber safe zone.

That would be the easy way. But I actually care about this forum because it has given me a lot, so I'll try to do my part with valuable posts in the future. I believe its possible to achieve a balance here that doesn't drive the "old school" members away.

I only felt like speaking up when I saw @AgainstAllOdds posts about it getting shot down rather quickly.

So an honest question to you who I consider a friend and one of the few people on the forum for which I would read every post.

Aside from a personal affinity for AgainstAllOdds who’s post I enjoyed for years until he decided for some random reason to join the pitchfork crowd and take a weird stance against all of the moderators present company included excluding Allen who is a good guy and MJ who is great…

if you hadn’t been posting here much why would you give two shits about against all odds posts?

He ranted about some secret underground club he’s in of disgruntled free forum takers, and then when I asked for specifics turns out it was only a personal vendetta against me and a few other moderators.

so you share his opinion? Because at the end of the day that’s all he had, and nothing was shut down contrary to popular opinion until every drip of the venom he espoused was given a full hearing. It was a gigantic Karen PMS moment that you never would’ve participated in. All hat and no cattle. If I had been a football coach I would’ve broken out the cookies at the end of practice and made everybody feel better.

so if your activism is simply in support of his position then I guess we have nothing more to talk about. He’s not an underachiever but he became the only one brave enough to be the poster boy speaker for a half a dozen people that many here have on ignore.

you have less in common with the underachievers that you’ve decided to identify with than you even know. I really think your absence was a disconnect and you quickly misaligned with a group that if you’d seen what’s been happening around here you’d be burning them down one post at a time.

you’ve been missed because absent of people like you we’ve been left to ward off the crazies while Simultaneously serving an influx of new people who are generally interested in entrepreneurial pursuits. You used to help us fight the crazies.

If I determine you’ve become one of them I will fly over there and kick your a$$. We need Luffy to come back or KLaw so we have a mutual target.

and yes my capitalization is weird because it was all done on Siri. Let the haters roast me for that as well. In the famous words of zen*******…zero...
 
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I just realized the forum software blacks out the name zen******* like it’s a swear word

I approve
 

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It's collateral forum damage I didn't see coming.

I wouldn't really call it "damage" at this point. More like a crossroads.

To be clear, I'm not saying that these courses or contents are bad. Or that the authors are only here to sell. My posts aren't meant as a personal attack on @Kak, @Lex DeVille, @Andy Black, @Fox or whoever might have feel "called out" because they have or had an offer in the marketplace or a worst-selling book like @Vigilante. You are all valued contributors with high quality posts, and I'm sure the courses and contents are valuable for those who apply them. But stirring the pot is usually the best way to get a discussion going.

My gripe is with what I feel is a change of general direction or philosophy that the forum seems to be taking and, at least in my eyes, is partly showing through the topics of marketplace posts and signatures linking to them, because they are both relatively prominent. Although I admit there is probably some confirmation bias and selective perception on my part.

Now, these topics are all related to all our entrepreneurial efforts, so they definitely should have a place here. But they are mostly about "skill building" instead of "business building". This is a good way to escape a life in the sidewalk and maybe even the slowlane in some cases, although most freelancers would probably have a less stressful and more financially rewarding life with a job (just ask all the freelancers who were the first to get fired or are struggling for new business in the current crisis). They can also provide a good foundation, both in skills and budget, to tackle a bigger business idea.

But I know from my personal experience that focussing on skill building too much can cause problems down the road, and make it harder to transition to a truly scalable business where you take yourself out of the day to day to work "on" instead of "in" the business. This trap cost me 2-3 years of progress, which is why I'm here lobbying for the "old school" fastlane definition.

Like I said, I think it's possible to balance these topics, so that both newcomers and more advanced business owners find value and useful discussions here. I'll do my best to steer discussions a bit more into that "business building" direction. Have a couple of ideas already and will post them over the next few days.
 
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By the way, you wouldn't believe the amount of PC and virtue signalling bullshit thats going on in the exclusive 5k EO safe zone, despite all people involved being pretty successful business owners. I have to bite my tongue a lot. Not sure my full-on libertarian rants would fly there. :innocent: :halo:
 

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why would you give two shits about against all odds posts?
I was mostly absent because I was busy. Checked in now and then. Saw his posts about this by chance a few days ago when I was reading the thread about Corona beer.. I mean virus. No idea what specifically he was referring to and I'm not part of the underground club. I just had some similar feelings, maybe for another reason than he had.

Also, no idea who the underachievers you mentioned are and why everybody has them on ignore. I guess I missed a few things.

I really think your absence was a disconnect and you quickly misaligned with a group that if you’d seen what’s been happening around here you’d be burning them down one post at a time.
Yes, I realize now through this discussion that I have become quite disconnected.

You used to help us fight the crazies.
I'm back. Looking forward to unload a shit-ton of suppressed anger. Just give me a target :clench:
 

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I was mostly absent because I was busy. Checked in now and then. Saw his posts about this by chance a few days ago when I was reading the thread about Corona beer.. I mean virus. No idea what specifically he was referring to and I'm not part of the underground club. I just had some similar feelings, maybe for another reason than he had.

Also, no idea who the underachievers you mentioned are and why everybody has them on ignore. I guess I missed a few things.


Yes, I realize now through this discussion that I have become quite disconnected.


I'm back. Looking forward to unload a shit-ton of suppressed anger. Just give me a target :clench:

ha. @Raoul Duke would have missed you as much as I did.

The corona beer thread was an ideological shit storm on all sides. It delved much deeper into political ideology than MJ would typically ever allow in his house.

you then also missed the reappearance and re-banning of KLaw.
 
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By the way, you wouldn't believe the amount of PC and virtue signalling bullshit thats going on in the exclusive 5k EO safe zone, despite all people involved being pretty successful business owners. I have to bite my tongue a lot. Not sure my full-on libertarian rants would fly there. :innocent: :halo:

Welcome home
 

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More like a crossroads.

I shall re-iterate... there are (3) groups here.

This forum has three distinct groups.
  1. I have no money and don't know where to start <-- freelancing, hustles, "thousandaire fastlane" might appeal to them.
  2. I have a small business that I'd like to make Fastlane, but aren't interested in employing 50 people and being the next Jeff Bezos. I just want to be FREE. I don't need no Lambo!
  3. I have a business and would like to blow it up huge. Perhaps, become the next 9 figure millionaire, or better, billionaire. I'm starting a global enterprise.

Groups 1 and 2 are probably the dominant group, namely because, my message is for new entrepreneurs. Asking someone with ZERO money and ZERO business experience (or even corporate management experience) to start a $25M business with no experience is a bit of a reach.

These people need to be guided in, kinda like you needed guiding 8 years ago when your first jump at business was designing websites. Perhaps the forum can be re-categorized for each group -- hence, segregating the topics based on everyone's personal vision of "Fastlane". I for one, have no interest in freelancing or side hustles, but I think that content is awesome here because it gets people into their first baby steps.

Fastlane, as well as CENTS, is always up to interpretation for each reader and what they want for the life. I try to respect that ... not everyone wants the Lambos -- and I imagine right now in the world, a lot of people would just take financial freedom in a shed, far away from the current insanity.
 

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@theag I missed you here and I am legitimately glad you are back.

EO is a good organization to those that are wondering. I have been thinking about getting involved again.
 

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I don't disagree with @theag but I also don't agree with the fact that he compares people like @Fox @Kak @Lex DeVille with the new members on here that are suddenly experts with $5000 Facebook ads courses.

Yes, there has been a lot of new members on here that are using this forum as sort of a leads page. Just look at Sell Me Saturday, some of these guys just come on here to make their post for that thread.

@MJ DeMarco have you ever thought about an INSIDERS group that consists of vetted entrepreneurs? A "secret" subsection on this forum for INSIDERS that have been vetted by you. I think that would really help the members that fall under category 3 of the types of people on this forum. Because as of right now, it's really hard to distinguish between people with actual businesses doing $1m+/year, than those that are just here to eventually sell something to someone. After all, this is an entrepreneurship forum. I don't think a single store pizza franchise owner would fall under the category of entrepreneurs. I understand everyone starts from somewhere, but a vetted group would help those of us that are already doing great deals of revenue and need to bounce ideas off of real entrepreneurs to really grow their revenues 5x without all the background noise.
 

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Groups 1 and 2 are probably the dominant group, namely because, my message is for new entrepreneurs. Asking someone with ZERO money and ZERO business experience (or even corporate management experience) to start a $25M business with no experience is a bit of a reach.

These people need to be guided in,
These are the folks I feel compelled to help the most. I come back daily to help people get unstuck and point them in the right direction. I’m sure the other groups don’t need to read much of what I write.
 
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...... an INSIDERS group that consists of vetted entrepreneurs.....
reach out and make those connections!! come to events. reach out directly. go SEE others. show up and help them at tradeshows. genuinely care about other people. make those connections and friendships.

i'm in a bunch of mastermind groups and MORE IMPORTANTLY friendships with people from this forum.
why does MJ have to do everything around here?? doesn't anyone reach their hand out / send a message / pick up the phone anymore?
 

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Now, these topics are all related to all our entrepreneurial efforts, so they definitely should have a place here. But they are mostly about "skill building" instead of "business building". This is a good way to escape a life in the sidewalk and maybe even the slowlane in some cases, although most freelancers would probably have a less stressful and more financially rewarding life with a job (just ask all the freelancers who were the first to get fired or are struggling for new business in the current crisis). They can also provide a good foundation, both in skills and budget, to tackle a bigger business idea.

This is from my marketplace post:

I hinted at this with Dan's story, but our end goal with this approach to web design is much bigger than just making some websites. This last stage is really what separates our school from other courses.

As much as we love web design (and we do!), we always see it more of a launching pad than an end destination.
Our end goal is always for our students to use their web design experience to go on to even bigger and better things.

Web design is a great way to get profitable and learn a bunch of skills, but it does have some limitations too. Once your income gets to around $100,000, you will be basically working a fulltime job, either doing the projects yourself or outsourcing to others.

This is a great first goal for someone who is struggling right now, but the better goal is that once you are profitable you start also transitioning from web design to launching an even bigger and better business.

I don't know how much of that post you read but my whole goal is that they don't do web design long term. Only that it is a good place to start and get going. We actually agree on a lot of things.

As soon as anyone in the school is doing well we start pushing them to think bigger and only use web design as an initial way of boosting their biz skills, experience, mindset and cashflow when first starting off.

If someone is still doing web design a few years after joining then we have failed them. We are the only web design school I know of that has an approach like this. Freelancing is not something we promote long term.

If you @theag or @AgainstAllOdds (or anyone else) ever want to come talk to the whole school then you are open to do it. We have been working hard the last while to bring in non web design people to show them the direction they should/could be headed in once they get up and running. @AllenCrawley gave a talk last week about moving from web design to ecommerce for example.

This is what I was calling out in this thread - if you mix decent feedback with incorrect data on people then they aren't exactly going to be open to hearing about it. Everyone in this thread wants the forum to be better, but the whole thing gets sidetracked when people have to start with clearing their own name.

@theag it would be cool to see you posting more, and I hope @AgainstAllOdds and @ApparentHorizon stick around also. If any of you guys are open to giving me constructive feedback or working together then reach out. Allow me the chance to show you things in more detail before painting me with the same brush as some spammy school elsewhere.
 

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Now, these topics are all related to all our entrepreneurial efforts, so they definitely should have a place here. But they are mostly about "skill building" instead of "business building". This is a good way to escape a life in the sidewalk and maybe even the slowlane in some cases, although most freelancers would probably have a less stressful and more financially rewarding life with a job (just ask all the freelancers who were the first to get fired or are struggling for new business in the current crisis). They can also provide a good foundation, both in skills and budget, to tackle a bigger business idea.
You may be surprised how much I agree with your paragraph, even as a current freelancer.

While freelancing for me has taught me a bunch of skills and stuff, it's an everyday battle to deal with clients who put too much dependence on you. Many nights I wonder if I have to dump X client, write Y more proposals, take Q additional courses or skills reviews to resharpen my freelancing scope or renegotiate Z terms.

I used to be part of the freelancer gang who'd be happy to take on any 'work', as long they got paid a penny and some 'experience'. While that is true, for folks who have ZERO business background, eventually one has to move on.

So I'm currently going around raising rates like a loanshark and clearing house, although my freelance profile might risk tanking a bit. I have an email marketing project on my mind to roll out, after a tip from Ben Settle. And yes, it's a project that I will use some of my freelance insights on. I'll share the details on my progress thread, once I get to it.

This is from my marketplace post:



I don't know how much of that post you read but my whole goal is that they don't do web design long term. Only that it is a good place to start and get going. We actually agree on a lot of things.

As soon as anyone in the school is doing well we start pushing them to think bigger and only use web design as an initial way of boosting their biz skills, experience, mindset and cashflow when first starting off.

If someone is still doing web design a few years after joining then we have failed them. We are the only web design school I know of that has an approach like this. Freelancing is not something we promote long term.

If you @theag or @AgainstAllOdds (or anyone else) ever want to come talk to the whole school then you are open to do it. We have been working hard the last while to bring in non web design people to show them the direction they should/could be headed in once they get up and running. @AllenCrawley gave a talk last week about moving from web design to ecommerce for example.

This is what I was calling out in this thread - if you mix decent feedback with incorrect data on people then they aren't exactly going to be open to hearing about it. Everyone in this thread wants the forum to be better, but the whole thing gets sidetracked when people have to start with clearing their own name.

@theag it would be cool to see you posting more, and I hope @AgainstAllOdds and @ApparentHorizon stick around also. If any of you guys are open to giving me constructive feedback or working together then reach out. Allow me the chance to show you things in more detail before painting me with the same brush as some spammy school elsewhere.
You have no idea how much I really appreciate that you are willing to spend the time righting what you can, and clarifying as best as you can. Very few 'gurus' actively talk these deeper things like a family.

Thank you.

I don't disagree with @theag but I also don't agree with the fact that he compares people like @Fox @Kak @Lex DeVille with the new members on here that are suddenly experts with $5000 Facebook ads courses.
After trying to write copy for Facebook ads, and having to beg the flag-gods for mercy (writing for clients' health products), I'm laughing at anyone who claims he's a sudden expert with FB.

I realised there's a lot of bullcrap with FB.
Medical terms? Flagged.
Personal characteristics to act as prospect qualifiers? Flagged for 'name-calling' or something like that.

That's why I'm leaning more towards old-school marketing methods like email.

I think its good that we are more alert of folks using TFLF as a potential leads page. After corona's damage, I'd expect folks to use all kinds of underhanded tactics to funnel sales to their 'businesses', after losing their sales/income. Desperate times.
 
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Went downtown today, just came home at 4am was doing some filming, worked on some social media content and donated a bit of my money, trying out this be a better person type thing.

I haven't been in the downtown area for a while, since the lockdown stuff I've pretty much holed myself in my room, living the Canadian dream of freedom. I forgot how much I hate the city, piss filled streets that stink up blocks, shitstained walls (yes homeless people crap on walls and love pissing allover the place) The sight of garbage and filth that cover the streets along with people just laying around everywhere either high or just cranking out a nap, discarded needles everywhere....

Crazy to be in the middle of chaos on a Saturday night, always found it completely insane the groups of people that hoard to these locations, the nightlife, drinking and smoking ''partying it up''I spent the night being rained on and stuck downtown for a bit waiting for my bus back, missed the train back home. In an a strange way, it was somewhat enjoyable to be in the middle of it all, to witness insanity again after being away from it for so long.

Sad to see so much wasted youth in the city, from the homeless drug addicts, prostitutes, stupid teenagers boozing it up and smoking cigarettes and the jersey shore douche bags with 1 to many sprays of Givency colonge..... ahh, I love being out in the suburbs, living in an affluential area is so much of a nicer lifestyle, the peace and quiet. Whenever I leave my house I have a mountain view and it STILL amazes me every time.

I need some sleep

If I was a Jeff Bezos type wealth, I would become one of those ''evil'' rich people perhaps, it would bring great joy to just buy a city and bulldoze the whole thing, and plop down a forest. Cities are a digusting waste of space.
 

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@sparechange, I hate cities, too. I live in a smaller one but now that I temporarily live in a tropical country with an ocean view, in a quiet residential area, I feel stressed out just thinking about coming back "home." It's strange how quickly one's definition of "home" can change once you have enough time to review your values and try something else that is more aligned with them.

I do appreciate people living in cities because they greatly contribute to the economy and productivity but I personally don't want to ever live in a big city and want to get away from an urbanized area as soon as possible.

This is my current new "why" - make enough money to afford nice houses around the world, each on a big plot of land in a rural or coastal area with a nice view.
 

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Went downtown today, just came home at 4am was doing some filming, worked on some social media content and donated a bit of my money, trying out this be a better person type thing.

I haven't been in the downtown area for a while, since the lockdown stuff I've pretty much holed myself in my room, living the Canadian dream of freedom. I forgot how much I hate the city, piss filled streets that stink up blocks, shitstained walls (yes homeless people crap on walls and love pissing allover the place) The sight of garbage and filth that cover the streets along with people just laying around everywhere either high or just cranking out a nap, discarded needles everywhere....

Crazy to be in the middle of chaos on a Saturday night, always found it completely insane the groups of people that hoard to these locations, the nightlife, drinking and smoking ''partying it up''I spent the night being rained on and stuck downtown for a bit waiting for my bus back, missed the train back home. In an a strange way, it was somewhat enjoyable to be in the middle of it all, to witness insanity again after being away from it for so long.

Sad to see so much wasted youth in the city, from the homeless drug addicts, prostitutes, stupid teenagers boozing it up and smoking cigarettes and the jersey shore douche bags with 1 to many sprays of Givency colonge..... ahh, I love being out in the suburbs, living in an affluential area is so much of a nicer lifestyle, the peace and quiet. Whenever I leave my house I have a mountain view and it STILL amazes me every time.

I need some sleep

If I was a Jeff Bezos type wealth, I would become one of those ''evil'' rich people perhaps, it would bring great joy to just buy a city and bulldoze the whole thing, and plop down a forest. Cities are a digusting waste of space.
Urban planning is still a bazillion-dollar opportunity waiting for disruption.

I detest the overbuilding of roads that encourage more traffic jams. I shall never enjoy hot cars, like youngsters typically do, because the roads have made driving a miserable experience for me.
 
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Urban planning is still a bazillion-dollar opportunity waiting for disruption.

I detest the overbuilding of roads that encourage more traffic jams. I shall never enjoy hot cars, like youngsters typically do, because the roads have made driving a miserable experience for me.


Apartment development as well, it's actually quite a big problem in Vancouver. I've taken transit here and it's mind blowing to see people stuffed into trains (literally shoulder to shoulder with people making it impossible to move an inch) during the peak traffic times. The issue I have is that more high rises are constantly being built, so with all of the congestion in the city, it is just getting worse.

I'm no economic expert, although I'll guess with a lack of jobs around combined with a growing population... it doesn't seem like a good recipe.
 

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Apartment development as well, it's actually quite a big problem in Vancouver. I've taken transit here and it's mind blowing to see people stuffed into trains (literally shoulder to shoulder with people making it impossible to move an inch) during the peak traffic times. The issue I have is that more high rises are constantly being built, so with all of the congestion in the city, it is just getting worse.

I'm no economic expert, although I'll guess with a lack of jobs around combined with a growing population... it doesn't seem like a good recipe.

It's very tricky because urban sprawl isn't desirable, either. It's catastrophic for the environment and destroys the countryside.

Imagine living in a nice, quiet rural area only for the city (or its suburbs) to suddenly appear right in front of your house. That's what happens when you let cities grow over large expanses of land over growing them up (via high-rises and increased efficiency such as neighborhoods that you don't have to leave because everything's there instead of 5-10 miles away). In this aspect, Europe is better than the United States (not sure about Canada or Vancouver as I haven't been to Canada).
 

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So on the eighth July I go for surgery. Removal of a cataract, second operation, right eye already done. Also I will get an Intraocular lens implant. Now the fun part, what will I get after?
Any guess's, @G-Man or other forum funny guys?
You got it, 2020 vision lol.
 
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So on the eighth July I go for surgery. Removal of a cataract, second operation, right eye already done. Also I will get an Intraocular lens implant. Now the fun part, what will I get after?
Any guess's, @G-Man or other forum funny guys?
You got it, 2020 vision lol.

Good luck Tommo’.
 

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> getting started is the hardest part

Before coming here I read Wall Street Playboys "Efficiency", which addresses the getting started problem. He advocates getting a high paying job and then entrepreneurship on the side until it takes off. That's a good way to bypass the hardest phase of "getting started". He has a lot more to say for young men, which I found helpful. I think Fast Lane is more about the entrepreneurship side.

Another guy who's good for starting online earning is Niall Doherty of ebizfacts. Also for SEO, Josh Nelson's The 7 Figure Digital Marketing Agency is good. It's a template for an agency business in general.
 

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Amazon is ugently looking for these products. Supply these ASINS to grow sales during Covid times and help your community too. If you are a business supplier with large inventory of critical products, you can help Amazon meet the demand for COVID19 health and safety supplies. Make sure you study beforehand if you need Amazon advanced approval before listing any of these items.

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Amazon is ugently looking for these products. Supply these ASINS to grow sales during Covid times and help your community too. If you are a business supplier with large inventory of critical products, you can help Amazon meet the demand for COVID19 health and safety supplies. Make sure you study beforehand if you need Amazon advanced approval before listing any of these items.

Shop C0VlD-19 Supplies

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Just to add to this.

You need to email their dedicated team for approval prior to listing most of those supplies. Anything C0VlD-19 related will likely require an approval or it will be an automatic account suspension, not a listing removal.

We got approved for nitrile gloves, gowns, and face shields for Canada.
 

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Sounds like you are reading your own press clippings, worshiping your reflection in the mirror.

This forum has three distinct groups.
  1. I have no money and don't know where to start <-- freelancing, hustles, "thousandaire fastlane" might appeal to them.
  2. I have a small business that I'd like to make Fastlane, but aren't interested in employing 50 people and being the next Jeff Bezos. I just want to be FREE. I don't need no Lambo!
  3. I have a business and would like to blow it up huge. Perhaps, become the next 9 figure millionaire, or better, billionaire. I'm starting a global enterprise.
You have an issue with 1 and 2 when the fact is, most people arrive here at #1, and most people want #2. Hell, I fall into #2.

But you're sad that you're commingling with the lowly 1s and 2s.

Many of the coaching gigs are for these two subgroups, #1 and #2 ... I'd say Kak's thing is for 2, mostly 3.

I got my start as a web designer, a program that Fox is offering -- so it fits as a start for someone with no experience. I also know, having been here for over a decade, that getting started is the hardest.

Your concerns are noted, in summary: All of us should work for free and the expectation of any kind of return, even after making 10,000 posts, is bad for the forum. That's why I spent $5K on another forum. And if you're not working to build the next billion dollar unicorn and a front page spread on TechCrunch, then everything else is noise, damn those plebs struggling to make their first buck.

I'm #2. Totally not interested in an empire, just freedom, the money is secondary.

Isn't it amazing how some people live?

That was GROSS. I have this theory, though, that part of the reason people are unhappy and out rabble rousing is because they don't like where they live. Whether it's the neighborhood, the inside of their house/apartment/bedroom, who they live with, or whatever. It's a really interesting topic and not talked about much. I've seen a few Instagram posts that say clean up your room and you'll feel better, but I've never heard it talked about in the context of mental health. I know Jordan Peterson has talked about it some, but not really in the context of aesthetics. Which, not only does your room have to clean, you should also like it. I mean Army barracks are clean, but...

And lastly, I get a lot of value from this forum and I realize I am probably not much use, so, my apologies :rofl:
 

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You might consider Apple a "design geniuses".
This card from apple looks like their printer broke and didn't finalize its job
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Too much of anything is bad. Even if its too much of less.


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And some shower after-thought:
The last thing i want to look cheap is my credit card
 
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And lastly, I get a lot of value from this forum and I realize I am probably not much use, so, my apologies :rofl:

Your time will come. OK to just study NOW. Contribute down stream. You are the next generation of leaders here.
 

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My social media content has been reaching people all over the world, kind of crazy! Just now I had a lad from the UK like one of my posts, my targeting is actually focused on Vancouver (oddly enough I have some US traffic on my website)

Maybe I'm thinking to small....
 

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