A Warning for Young Guys: Money is NOT the way to solve your Girl Problems

[Oilman]

As someone who read all the PUA stuff years ago I can definitely tell you money up to a point will help you better get girls. In my experience anybody claiming money doesn't matter is selling you something and if you don't believe me hard cheese (go learn the hard way). I went through periods where I worked 70 hours per week and never got the chance to go out and "prospect." Unfortunately it wasn't doing lucrative work like sales, I worked so many hours in a low paying environment. It is fair to call me the working poor during that time. I grew up riding public transportation and living away from the party scene and cool kids. If you like going out to clubs or live in LA your place better be close to where girls you like go. Anybody who can't catch my drift from that last statement is better off just continuing with their money/career journey.

By up to a point I don't mean go to the extreme end and make millions and then go out and take girls shoe shopping. I also see people that make more coin than me (think $100K+) that girls will not want to be seen with because they either look like dorks or their personalities suck. Even if you make 500K/year last thing girls want is an awkward dinner date with a geek. Obviously if she's out of her prime, sizing you up for marriage, that might be a different story. While "game" doesn't matter if you talk about stocks to her unless you're an A list celebrity you will bore her. Girls don't like being bored, hence why they watch drama shows like Keeping up with the Kardashians.

Not sure if anybody mentioned it but high school never ends. Why I get into this whole money journey is to not only improve my living standards but also to improve my social standing. Once you do that up to a point the girls will come. You know what I would do with a higher earning power, this is a list of things I would do to get the girls thing out of my system:

* Travel more to exotic countries and get pictures of me having fun.
* Get a more centrally located apartment in the cooler section of town.
* Devote more time to charity.
* Get my hair styled, not cut. Women notice things like this.

If I had the time and resources to do all the above I would have more girls than I would be able to handle. I'd be a lot more interesting and just slightly more available since my free time has opened up. Notice how I didn't state I would buy a fancy car or fancy clothes (items that depreciate). Of course to cover that "cool" stuff I have other factors in play (that I won't disclose, sorry). If I had to explain my mentality if she don't want to hang with me then it will only be a matter of days before I reel in another one. Since there will be periods of time where I'm away at the places I normally frequent it will make girls wonder what kind of life I live.

I can definitely admit my life sucked but ever since a couple years ago things have changed for the better. Everybody here will be different, I suggest going out with a cool friend of yours and ask him what you're doing wrong. Strongly disagree with OP about his money assertion, money does matter to a point. I don't disagree with him saying looks matter though.

***I put in too much effort to this post and have other stuff to do, kind of got carried away here.***

 

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[Get Right]

The only thing that ever worked for me was massive action.

Massive action to get the girl (got one)
Massive action to build a business (got one)
Massive action to become respected in my community (got it)

I started at the bottom of each category. Unattractive, broke and nobody new my name. I basically had no cards to play...but massive action levels all those fields.

And learn how to make pancakes, the ladies love em'!

 

[MTEE1985]

I started at the bottom

Now you’re here!

Anyway, solid advice in the OP @AgainstAllOdds sadly the rest of the thread somehow got caught between decent information and a rationale male circle jerk.

Go live your lives people and you will meet members of the opposite sex, there is no magic formula. You don’t need to scheme and plan and decode some mythical marketplace value. Or, in the words of our illustrious leader: there is no F*cking list.

 

[AceVentures]

Not sure why, but I personally find women with daddy issues very attractive. They are usually very good at teasing and flirting with guys, doing all the right things to get your attention etc. Of course, it didn't end well (for my case).

Same here. I've always wondered why I found them to be so attractive. I've found they're typically a lot more affectionate, both in giving affection and having a strong need for it. Have also found some are very open to criticism and feedback, making them friendlier and more adaptable. A person that's been starved of genuine love is a lot more appreciative of it when they finally see something real.

 

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[Xeon]

As someone who read all the PUA stuff years ago I can definitely tell you money up to a point will help you better get girls. In my experience anybody claiming money doesn't matter is selling you something and if you don't believe me hard cheese (go learn the hard way). I went through periods where I worked 70 hours per week and never got the chance to go out and "prospect." Unfortunately it wasn't doing lucrative work like sales, I worked so many hours in a low paying environment. It is fair to call me the working poor during that time. I grew up riding public transportation and living away from the party scene and cool kids. If you like going out to clubs or live in LA your place better be close to where girls you like go. Anybody who can't catch my drift from that last statement is better off just continuing with their money/career journey.

By up to a point I don't mean go to the extreme end and make millions and then go out and take girls shoe shopping. I also see people that make more coin than me (think $100K+) that girls will not want to be seen with because they either look like dorks or their personalities suck. Even if you make 500K/year last thing girls want is an awkward dinner date with a geek. Obviously if she's out of her prime, sizing you up for marriage, that might be a different story. While "game" doesn't matter if you talk about stocks to her unless you're an A list celebrity you will bore her. Girls don't like being bored, hence why they watch drama shows like Keeping up with the Kardashians.

Not sure if anybody mentioned it but high school never ends. Why I get into this whole money journey is to not only improve my living standards but also to improve my social standing. Once you do that up to a point the girls will come. You know what I would do with a higher earning power, this is a list of things I would do to get the girls thing out of my system:

* Travel more to exotic countries and get pictures of me having fun.
* Get a more centrally located apartment in the cooler section of town.
* Devote more time to charity.
* Get my hair styled, not cut. Women notice things like this.

If I had the time and resources to do all the above I would have more girls than I would be able to handle. I'd be a lot more interesting and just slightly more available since my free time has opened up. Notice how I didn't state I would buy a fancy car or fancy clothes (items that depreciate). Of course to cover that "cool" stuff I have other factors in play (that I won't disclose, sorry). If I had to explain my mentality if she don't want to hang with me then it will only be a matter of days before I reel in another one. Since there will be periods of time where I'm away at the places I normally frequent it will make girls wonder what kind of life I live.

I can definitely admit my life sucked but ever since a couple years ago things have changed for the better. Everybody here will be different, I suggest going out with a cool friend of yours and ask him what you're doing wrong. Strongly disagree with OP about his money assertion, money does matter to a point. I don't disagree with him saying looks matter though.

***I put in too much effort to this post and have other stuff to do, kind of got carried away here.***

Totally this.

* Travel more to exotic countries and get pictures of me having fun.

I once had a friend who did a test profile on some dating apps, and in the profile, he put nothing but photos of himself in the usual "high-end" / romantic places (Paris! Make sure the Eiffel tower is in the background), Iceland (northern lights), some European cafe, Italy (this IS the big one) and others.
Turns out, girls were contacting him like no other.

 

[Xeon]

Same here. I've always wondered why I found them to be so attractive. I've found they're typically a lot more affectionate, both in giving affection and having a strong need for it. Have also found some are very open to criticism and feedback, making them friendlier and more adaptable. A person that's been starved of genuine love is a lot more appreciative of it when they finally see something real.

Yup, I think you nailed this down. The problem is this is usually not consistent. Compared to more stable girls, these dad-girls can go totally warm one day and won't even look at you the next, then a few weeks later, they become affectionate again. Once you confess to these sort of girls, the game is over (for the guy).

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Yup, I think you nailed this down. The problem is this is usually not consistent. Compared to more stable girls, these dad-girls can go totally warm one day and won't even look at you the next, then a few weeks later, they become affectionate again. Once you confess to these sort of girls, the game is over (for the guy).

*cough

It might not be a game, at least to all of them.. Maybe their brain just literally screeches to a halt when the guy is “nice”. Maybe they deeply wish they could be attracted to a nice guy and not constantly stuck being only attracted to horrible men. Maybe they’re fundamentally flawed and know it but really can’t figure out how the F*ck to fix their nose that thinks unavailable men smell better and decent normal guys smell off..

Maybe. Sigh.

 

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[Rivoli]

I know from experience OP is wrong..

 

[The Abundant Man]

 

[Roli]

Source?

Last I read we pair well with the following:

• People who look like our opposite gender parent
• People who swap good antibodies during kissing

I can't remember the source I'm sorry...

I watched an experiment years ago on a documentary. They said something like there are five main genetic "types" and if you are say a number 1, then you will find people in number 5 the most attractive and people in number 1 the least.

This was then proven by using pheromones rubbed on a set of chairs, they didn't tell the participants what the experiment was for, they just told them to go into a room and wait.

After watching dozens of people sit down, they took the genetic profiles and saw that indeed the people did always go for the chair smeared with the pheromones of their genetic opposites....

I guess that covers the two things you mentioned, and it would make evolutionary sense if we could identify our genetic opposites without kissing or having sex first.

 

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[Fox]

A deep dark secret that ugly guys do to get hot women.......is to lie constantly or exaggerate the truth.

I spent years hanging out with a lot of guys who are "good" with women and they end up lying a lot like who they know, how much money they make, fake goals that won't go anywhere....

Man that’s a major limiting belief right there.

All “ugly” guys have to lie to get a hot girl?

Straight up - you’re wrong.

You’re putting massive value on the looks of a girl and minimal value on the tons of area a guy can bring massive value.

So she is hot - who cares?

Get your life together and live in an abundance mentality. But ya if you’re ugly, fat, have terrible confidence, do nothing exciting - you don’t deserve much of anything.

You’ve spent years hanging around losers and now you see how they acted as being the rule for everyone.

I’ve spent years hanging out with well rounded men who crushed all areas of life that they controlled and they have no problem meeting attractive women. They don’t lie - they live authentic cool lives, are super interesting, and go after what they want in a big way.

Making a statement “an ugly guy has to lie to get an attractive girl” is completely false. If you didn’t have that self limiting belief you would see evidence everyday that shows that isn’t the case.

 

[Fox]

Some guys on here need to stop thinking of "being an attractive" as just being as simple as "being born good looking".

Girls actually have it tougher since their attractiveness is judged a LOT more on how they look.
It's somewhat fixed.

Us guys, on the other hand, are much more fluid - we can increase our value A LOT... if we put in the work.

- Getting in shape is attractive
- Dressing well is attractive
- Living a life you enjoy and on your terms is attractive
- Not being reactive and having core values and standards is attractive
- Being dominant and taking what you want in life is attractive
- Being a leader and building a following is attractive
- Having access and authority is attractive
- Being able to provide for yourself and others is attractive
- Living a life rich with experience is attractive
- Being socially intelligent and charismatic is attractive

The list goes on - as a guy if you put in the work you can make massive gains.

Here is what happens though...

Some guy who was "ugly" does the above and starts getting the quality of girls he decides he wants.

But the other "ugly" guy who did nothing sees that and rationalizes it as "well, of course, cause that guy is <enter what the first guy has now become and made himself into>".

They tell themselves BS stories about the other guy to justify their own lack of action and results.




^ fitness is just one way a guy can within months make massive progress.

Now add in the dozens of other areas that the same progress can be made in - you got a totally new man.

There is no such thing as an unattractive man - only a man living unattractively.



This dude has no arms or legs and has multiple kids with a nice feminine wife.

And if right now in your head your thought was "well that is probably because..." instead of "I got no excuses" then you need to work on the BS stories you tell yourself and the limits they are creating.

 

[GrandRub]

what fox said... but i highly doubt that 4 month progress pic... anyone else?

 

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[Xeon]

what fox said... but i highly doubt that 4 month progress pic... anyone else?

Steroids, my friend.

 

[Fox]

Lol

- makes thread on limiting beliefs and not telling yourself false stories

“Steroids”

You guys are your own worst enemies telling yourself these stories.

Yes everyone who has ever had a physical transformation is on drugs. There is no such thing as a gym plan, meal plan, and 120 days of working out every day. Just take drugs.

Also all the successful people on these forums are from rich families too.

And I live in my mums basement and just write fake content online for likes.




Right now inside you is the version of yourself who could do all the things you want and more.

Instead, you're letting the other loser version tell you all the stories and excuses of why you shouldn’t even start.

 

[becks22]

Please don't let one ignorant, generalized opinion (no offense @NicholasCato, see what I did there? ) represent the whole. If you do, you're just as guilty as the person who made the original generalization.

Absolutely true MJ but I've been on and off visiting this forum for over 2 years and the number of these types of sexist comments are overwhelming. Not to hijack this thread but honestly that's why I don't post a ton. I read a lot on here on certain threads but it puts me off to have to deal with some of these comments. My very first post on this forum as giving my opinion that when you use sex in marketing so much that it cross boundaries into softcore porn that it may be too much sex. Let's just say that did not go over well in that thread.

I've been hesitant to post about this thread. Having money for either gender is not that best way to find a life partner. I'm 26 and just starting to date again and it's tough but the guys that I tend to like have a few things in common:
- careers/ jobs they love and are passionate about. I met a guy who taught middle schoolers and they way he talked about them was much more attractive then what he looked like.
- relatively healthy. No need to look like a bodybuilder but someone who goes to the gym casually and likes to be active. I like hiking in the Adirondacks so that's attractive for me.
- Personality-- funny and witty who can keep up with me. We can have conversations that actually have some depth.

That's all for now folks. It's 7am and I have to get back to work.

 

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[Xeon]

Lol

- makes thread on limiting beliefs and no telling yourself false stories

“Steroids”

You guys are your own worst enemies telling yourself these stories.

Yes everyone who has ever had a physical transformation is on drugs. There is no such thing as a gym plan, meal plan, and 120 days of working out every day. Just take drugs.

Also all the successful people on these forums are from rich families too.

And I live in my mums basement and just write fake content online for likes.

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Right now inside you is the version of yourself who could do all the things you want and more.

Instead, you're letting the other loser version tell you all the stories and excuses and why you shouldn’t even start.

If he can get that kind of "transformation" in 4 months without steroids, he must have top tier-genes + celeb coach + top tier nutrition + Navy Seal training + silverback gorilla DNA.

Don't believe everything you see and read on the web.

Absolute skinny rookie with zero weightlifting / bodybuilding experience to that buff guy in 4 months? Gimme a break.

#fyrefestival

 

[guy93777]

You guys are your own worst enemies telling yourself these stories.

this is indeed true : we are our worst ennemies

not the universe but our current understanding of life

and the point is that i t can't be otherwise because life is a duality : attraction and repulsion

well said with these two pictures : yin yang and spiritual teacher Krishnamurti





and everything starts and ends in our mind : the first and last freedom , yin and yang in our mind


the point is to balance the two polarities, to unite them in order to go ahead in life

 

[Fox]

If he can get that kind of "transformation" in 4 months without steroids, he must have top tier-genes + celeb coach + top tier nutrition + Navy Seal training + silverback gorilla DNA.

Don't believe everything you see and read on the web.

Absolute skinny rookie with zero weightlifting / bodybuilding experience to that buff guy in 4 months? Gimme a break.

#fyrefestival

I’m not going to argue with you about someone I don’t even know.

Google “body transformation” and pick one that you feel isn’t steroids. There are a few million to choose from.

My point is it is possible.

 

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[Maxboost]

All “ugly” guys have to lie to get a hot girl?

Never made the claim that ugly guys have to lie to get the hot girl but a LOT do. Even girls that are friends of mine who have dated fat ugly men have told me they lied their asses off to get with them.

You’re putting massive value on the looks of a girl and minimal value on the tons of area a guy can bring massive value.

This is the sexual market place at work validating my points.

You’ve spent years hanging around losers and now you see how they acted as being the rule for everyone.

Never said that EVERYONE has to lie to get girls but many do.

I’ve spent years hanging out with well rounded men who crushed all areas of life that they controlled and they have no problem meeting attractive women. They don’t lie - they live authentic cool lives, are super interesting, and go after what they want in a big way.

Beauty is subjective and the sexual market place will always be at play. Put those same guys you know in a room full of "B" level celebrities, Dan Bilzerian and sports athletes they will be virtually invisible to the women in the room. To blindly dismiss the social dynamics at play and the general mating strategies of both men and women is what is wrong with the whole dating guru industry which just leaves guys more frustrated and stuck.

 

[Fox]

Never made the claim that ugly guys have to lie to get the hot girl but a LOT do. Even girls that are friends of mine who have dated fat ugly men have told me they lied their asses off to get with them.

This is the sexual market place at work validating my points.

Never said that EVERYONE has to lie to get girls but many do.

Beauty is subjective and the sexual market place will always be at play. Put those same guys you know in a room full of "B" level celebrities, Dan Bilzerian and sports athletes they will be virtually invisible to the women in the room. To blindly dismiss the social dynamics at play and the general mating strategies of both men and women is what is wrong with the whole dating guru industry which just leaves guys more frustrated and stuck.

So what’s your point - you met some guys who lied to get girls and you met some girls who got lied to?

You’re claiming to know it’s not every ugly guy lying but then you proceed to imply it is.

Let’s say they were lying... what would they be lying about? Hardly that they are good looking since you can see that instantly.

They would be lying about all the stuff I mentioned that is possible to achieve if you put in the work.

The guys that lie are trying to be like the other guys that actually do it. Showing it works and that it is possible.

I’d find better influences. Lots of amazing cool guys out there who have a ton of sexual market place value that isn’t based on being born good looking.

In general your post is riddled with self imposed limits based on some past experiences. Through traveling I’ve met 100s of dudes who don’t need to lie and get amazing results consistently (in all countries).

 

[Kruiser]

Absolutely true MJ but I've been on and off visiting this forum for over 2 years and the number of these types of sexist comments are overwhelming. Not to hijack this thread but honestly that's why I don't post a ton. I read a lot on here on certain threads but it puts me off to have to deal with some of these comments.

I don't know, @becks22. Yeah, some of the comments in this particular thread aren't the best. But I don't think it's accurate to claim that the number of sexist comments on the forum is overwhelming. Is it a numbers thing or an emotional impact thing? Maybe you just got really burned by some of the comments on your first post. I think the number of comments on the forum that could (arguably) be considered sexist is pretty darn small (all things considered).

I think MJ and the mods do a really good job policing out BS comments and keeping the discussion on point. Consider the forum's user base. I would guess that it is 95% male with a large percentage of those between 18 and 30. Given those (made up) stats, the percentage of (arguably) sexist comments is pretty small.

I mean, you did click through and read comments on a thread for "young guys . . . how to solve your girl problems." Are you really surprised to find something in that thread that you didn't like?

Not trying to start an argument, nor dismiss the emotional impact of sexist comments. Sexist comments aren't acceptable. But I think the percentage of those comments on the forum is extremely limited. The number certainly is not overwhelming.

 

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[becks22]

I don't know, @becks22. Yeah, some of the comments in this particular thread aren't the best. But I don't think it's accurate to claim that the number of sexist comments on the forum is overwhelming. Is it a numbers thing or an emotional impact thing? Maybe you just got really burned by some of the comments on your first post. I think the number of comments on the forum that could (arguably) be considered sexist is pretty darn small (all things considered).

I think MJ and the mods do a really good job policing out BS comments and keeping the discussion on point. Consider the forum's user base. I would guess that it is 95% male with a large percentage of those between 18 and 30. Given those (made up) stats, the percentage of (arguably) sexist comments is pretty small.

I mean, you did click through and read comments on a thread for "young guys . . . how to solve your girl problems." Are you really surprised to find something in that thread that you didn't like?

Not trying to start an argument, nor dismiss the emotional impact of sexist comments. Sexist comments aren't acceptable. But I think the percentage of those comments on the forum is extremely limited. The number certainly is not overwhelming.

True I did click on it because I was curious to see if the thread would be what I thought it would be. I tend to click and read a lot of the threads regardless of if I agree with them because I like to read other people's POV. I consider myself very open minded in general whether or not I agree with the posts is another thing altogether.

The sexist comments have been decreasing but they are still more rampant than I think most of the women on the forum would appreciate. It's a catch 22 thing-- the forum wants more women to participate yet the women that come sometimes don't stay too long because of certain comments so they leave and the gap between the percentage of men and women on the forum stays the same or increases.

 

[Fox]

The sexist comments have been decreasing but they are still more rampant than I think most of the women on the forum would appreciate. It's a catch 22 thing-- the forum wants more women to participate yet the women that come sometimes don't stay too long because of certain comments so they leave and the gap between the percentage of men and women on the forum stays the same or increases.

Feel free to report those posts and the mods will look into it. We don't get many people complaining and can't check every post on the forum. The mods do a lot of work to keep the forums top quality but if we don't know - we can't help.

Also, feel free to start your own threads on female topics if you so wish.

If you want a space for female members there is nothing stopping for from making dedicated threads around the subjects that matter to you. I am not saying you shouldn't be respected in other threads but there is more you can do also to attract more female posters at the same time.

Not calling you out but I just haven't seen many dedicated female threads and often times I don't even know when a user is male or female. For example "becks22" - right or wrong I just assumed you were a guy.

If you want more female presence I suggest being more vocal about it and making it happen. The mods can't force female engagement or input- it comes from you ladies on here.

 

[Maxboost]

You’re claiming to know it’s not every ugly guy lying but then you proceed to imply it is.

Yes, it still reverts back to Looks,Money,Status and the sexual strategies of both men and women. If a guy has money and status, than looks don't matter as much. But if the guys who have neither of the above and still get very attractive women it's usually because they LIE. Which happens a lot of the time.

So what’s your point - you met some guys who lied to get girls and you met some girls who got lied to?

There is a sexual market place at work. Girls seek high status males and can get "conned" by ugly guys lying about it.

Let’s say they were lying... what would they be lying about? Hardly that they are good looking since you can see that instantly.

I'll give you examples
"I'm friends with {insert famous person}"
"My company is set to make {make up number}"
"I have an audition to be in {insert fake movie}"
" I know {insert famous person}"
"I am a pre med student"

Notice how these "types of lies" may have some elements of truth to it but INSTANTLY raises a person of value among the tribe. Girls flock to these high status males.

The guys that lie are trying to be like the other guys that actually do it. Showing it works and that it is possible.

Not disagreeing with you, what exactly do you disagree with me on?

In general your post is riddled with self imposed limits based on some past experiences.

Such as? Looks such as height matter a lot to women, it's part of the equation. Here is some evidence and there are plenty more.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3YR1ZTonc


To deny that women are the buyers and Men are the sellers in the sexual market place will lead men down a path of frustration. There is a game being played here by both sides. My friends (not the scummy liars) who are very good with women know this intuitively.

I gave actionable advice on this thread and not ONCE did I tell guys here to give up and be a loser as what you are alluding to.

 

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[100k]

I think you're wrong about looks being number 1 for women.
Its number 1 for men.
For women it can be personality, power/wealth/influence and great looks. It depends on the girl.

Not every girl wants a handsome great looking guy, some want the bad boy, some want someone reliable / a provider, some want a guy that they can really connect with, some just want someone famous or rich.

Get off instagram. That shit ain't real life.

 

[Fox]

If a guy has money and status, than looks don't matter as much. But if the guys who have neither of the above and still get very attractive women it's usually because they LIE.

Which happens a lot of the time.

You ask what I am disagreeing with. It is this.

You are saying a guy has to have looks and/or status and/or money OR THEY HAVE TO LIE (most of the time).

First, it isn't that hard to make decent money and have relative status in life so that should be on any guys checklist anyway. You can do both in 3-5 years so no excuses on not having this.

Second - you are way oversimplifying things. Girls (and guys) are quite complex. Thinking in these terms is not going to give you an accurate picture of things.

- any guy can dress better
- any guy can hit the gym
- any guy can build a network and raise his value
- any guy can learn to be more socially aware and more attractive in how they talk and act
- any guy can do cool things and become highly interesting

None of these requires you to be 6 foot tall and/or mega rich.

There are a lot more attractive woman than there are guys who have their lives together.
I think the females on this forum would agree.

Such as? Looks such as height matter a lot to women, it's part of the equation. Here is some evidence and there are plenty more.

Asking someone what they want is a lot different to seeing what they actually do. That's sales 101.

Case in point...




Bottom line is just like you can learn sales and marketing for a business you can learn to sell yourself and improve your product (you).

I'll give you examples
"I'm friends with {insert famous person}"
"My company is set to make {make up number}"
"I have an audition to be in {insert fake movie}"
" I know {insert famous person}"
"I am a pre med student"

Notice how these "types of lies" may have some elements of truth to it but INSTANTLY raises a person of value among the tribe. Girls flock to these high status males.

Ugly guy: "I'm friends with Matt Damon"
Hot girl: "Your place or mine"

Are you being serious?

Any girl is going to laugh out loud at the statements. They show zero social awareness and reak of desperation.

Girls are hard-wired a lot better than men to quickly find out if a guy is legit or not. They are way better at noticing subtle social cues that tell a mans real value. This "hot girls get tricked stuff" is like 0.00001% stuff.

I don't know where you are getting this from but it sounds like something from the 60s or from a dive bar in the back of nowhere.

To deny that women are the buyers and Men are the sellers in the sexual market place will lead men down a path of frustration.

That is your reality. And that sounds like the actual path of frustration.

There are amazing girls everywhere and only one of me (and only one of you too).

I don't need to lie, nor does any man, when he has himself together, lives life on his terms, and goes for what he wants. My value is only rising every day so I see myself as the prize.

“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't – you're right,”

 

[TreyAllDay]

Honestly - if after going through the journey of entrepreneurship you're still concerned about seeking women interested in your money, you have a lot of growth to do.

 

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[MTEE1985]

Ugly guy: "I'm friends with Matt Damon"
Hot girl: "Your place or mine"

@Fox wins the internet today

Holy shit people. Every girl is different, every guy is different. Every relationship is different. That’s all Fox is saying. If you aren’t getting what you want then change. Don’t want to change? Stop complaining.

Read what @Bekit @Primeperiwinkle and @becks22 actually wrote. They don’t give two shits about what all the guys think is the secret sauce. Be a human being and stop trying to trick girls or skew your “value” and you’ll be fine.

 

[Fox]

What a good diet, fitness plan, and a bit of style can do for a guy...




The reality is there is a lot both sexes can do to maximise themselves but few do.

Arguing about "averages" is a great excuse to get nowhere. Work on yourself and you will see results.