My family always tells me to get a job.

[Tanisha]

MJ's total process took a lot longer than you're thinking. All the crappy jobs he held were PART of his process. I don't know the timeline exactly but I'm sure in total from the beginning of his working career to his starting his company was probably a decade @MJ DeMarco can probably clarify the exact time..

The point is that overnight success doesn't exist! I've yet to hear your game plan for how you are going to accomplish your fast lane dreams. Do you have one idea you wish to pursue? What unique value do you know you can bring to this world?

I was gifted to have parents who didn't push me to go to college. I was blessed with a family that themselves are entrepreneurs. I wanted what they had, and even though I watched my dad grind through years of "process" to get where he was... I just wanted the results.

I had to go out and work crappy jobs to gain the life experience and the wisdom and the true motivation to pursue the process, the grind. It doesn't come naturally.

I get that you see your parents and you DONT want what they have. But obviously your desire to not work a 9-5 is pretty massive. So I don't think you should be afraid of losing your motivation to be fastlane just by getting a "real job". It might make you want it even more.

Also, this may or not be true, but you seem to think that somehow building a business is less work than working for someone else. Sorry, this isn't the case. It takes major balls, sucks tons of time, and can be an emotional roller coaster. I am less financially stable than I was as an employee. I work way longer hours than I ever did as an employee. But I'm building MY business, one that will eventually serve me instead of me serving it. THIS TAKES TIME AND TONS OF IT.

I hope you take these replies to heart. Everyone here wants you to succeed, but your mindset as it sits is WARPED. Sorry to break it to you, but it is. Not trying to be mean. But look at the feedback you've gotten so far. Obviously, you have a lot of work to do.

Hold that job as a bank teller and DO WHAT YOUR BOSS SAYS. Someone with a lot of motivation, time, and money created the environment and system you're working in. THEY ARE SMARTER THAN YOU. Your job is to be the best employee you can be.

If you live at home, awesome, you can save your paycheck. You're going to need it to fund your business.

Please reply with just ONE THING you think you could do that would create massive value for the world. If you can't, then you need to keep working and saving money til you figure it out.

My last note.. and don't think I'm beating you up, I say this out of love and a desire to challenge you...
do you feel that your focus is selfish? Or selfless? It seems like you're motives are selfish to me. "I want" "I don't want" etc. stop thinking about what the hell YOU want. You'll get nowhere with that mentality. If you can't serve your employer, how will you serve the world around you? You need to shift your mind from selfish thinking to analyzing the needs of others and serving and loving others. Life isn't about you and no one cares what you want.

Serve your employer. Serve your family. Serve your community. Show people you care about THEM. This is all that matters, the rest will come.

wow...... just letting all that sink in ..... im crying right now.... you're right i've been/ currently am selfish, i wanted things just for my pleasure not to serve others, i'll admit it, well i saw a video the other day on youtube about how the government collects money it said 50% comes from one source, 33% comes from another source, 10% comes from another source, 4% comes from another source and 3% comes from another source, i dont currently have a product in mind but i was considering using the $400,000 a month that mj spoke about in millionaire fastlane and pricing it according to that 5 criteria, one product for 50% or $200,000 one product for 33% or $132,000, one product for 10% or $40,000, one product for 4% or $16,000 and one product for 3% or $12,000. now what products those will be i dont know, but at least i have a pricing strategy, i think the business would be less work because i'll be the only employee and if someones interested in the products i wont need much scale because they're priced with magnitude which is something mj endorses

 

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[Lionhearted]

yeah i know mj doesnt believe in frugality but i want to stay 100% debt free even if i dont have the nice car/house to impress others

There is good debt and there is bad debt. Don't fall into the Dave Ramsey mindset that all debt is bad because it is not. Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki (recommend you read it if you have not) defines the difference between good debt and bad debt very well. The Rich use debt as leverage to buy and invest in larger assets to create more wealth.

 

[ddzc]

If I have to tell my "child" in their 20's who is living under my roof to get off their a$$ and find a job, I obviously SCREWED UP as a parent.

Agree, but do you know how many lazy a$$ parents let their kids mooch off them living with them doing nothing with their lives up until their 30s, even 40s? It exists and I've seen it with my own eyes. I give a bit of props for her parents telling her to get moving, and if I had a kid still living at home doing nothing, by the time they're 25 I would probably kick them out of the house.

OP, go get a job, go work, figure yourself out and save some money up. When the right time comes along and you have a bit of money to play with, try something and if it fails, at least you're not in debt. This is how most of us have done it here, including myself. You think MJ grew up not working for anyone and all of a sudden began making hundreds of thousands a mth out of sheer luck? He worked, he grinded, his JOB as a limo driver is what paved his way with limos.com. Stop wasting your time doing nothing at home and go work. If you're interested in a specific niche or industry which you believe one day you can make a business out of, go out and apply for jobs and work there so you can gain some experience in the field and save money at the same time.

Best of luck. There's some great suggestions and replies in this thread, hope you take action upon them.

 

[BrooklynHustle]

yeah i know mj doesnt believe in frugality but i want to stay 100% debt free even if i dont have the nice car/house to impress others

I don't think MJ would fight you on that

Controlling expenses is key in the beginning. It's just that that alone is not enough. You also need to explode revenues if you're going to become financially free. When that happens, you still control expenses, but it becomes easier

 

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[Christopher777]

im crying right now....

They're being hard on you because it's apparent that you don't have enough experience and they deem that you're not capable of indepence yet.

You sound very young and naive, that's why they are drilling some sense into you.

Now that you're very sure that you don't want to have that kind of life, you can bet on yourself on that. It's not gonna stay that way. If you're gonna get a job, get into the front line of the sales aspect of the business.

On the other hand, if you decide to do otherwise, figure out a hustle of your own and create your own business.

Who says you can't?

You have to start small and you have to start somewhere.

Your family wants you to get a job. Your family here in the FLF wants you to BECOME someone who will be able to run her own business.

You came in here complaining, that's why you got heat directed at you. (We don't do that and we don't like that from anyone.)

Work on yourself and your attitude and you'll be well on your way Tanisha.

 

[Tanisha]

There is good debt and there is bad debt. Don't fall into the Dave Ramsey mindset that all debt is bad because it is not. Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki (recommend you read it if you have not) defines the difference between good debt and bad debt very well. The Rich use debt as leverage to buy and invest in larger assets to create more wealth.

yeah but if anything goes wrong the payment is stuck with me

 

[Tanisha]

I don't think MJ would fight you on that

Controlling expenses is key in the beginning. It's just that that alone is not enough. You also need to explode revenues if you're going to become financially free. When that happens, you still control expenses, but it becomes easier

that makes much more sense

 

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[Tanisha]

They're being hard on you because it's apparent that you don't have enouh experience and they deem that you're not capable of indepence yet.

You sound very young and naive, that's why they are drilling some sense into you.

Now that you're very sure that you don't want to have that kind of life, you can bet on yourself on that. It's not gonna stay that way. If you're gonna get a job, get into the front line of the sales aspect of the business.

On the other hand, if you decide to do otherwise, figure out a hustle of your own and create your own business.

Who says you can't?

You have to start small and you have to start somewhere.

Your family wants you to get a job. Your family here in the FLF wants you to BECOME someone who will be able to run her own business.

You came in here complaining, that's why you got heat directed at you. (We don't do that and we don't like that from anyone.)

Work on yourself and your attitude and you'll be well on your way Tanisha.

i understand

 

[c_morris]

i just dont want to let a job that i temporarily get go on for years and years possibly even decades, my parents are so miserable at their's thats the last thing i want, but yes process takes work so i agree

So don't let it. You are in control. A job is a means to an end.

yeah but if anything goes wrong the payment is stuck with me

Don't worry about things that haven't happened yet.

“I've had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened.”
― Mark Twain

 

[Tanisha]

So don't let it. You are in control. A job is a means to an end.



Don't worry about things that haven't happened yet.

“I've had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened.”
― Mark Twain

so true i need to worry less

 

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[Lionhearted]

so true i need to worry less

Worry is just fear. You need to confront that or you will never take action. It's sounds to me like you are in a rut and you need to get out of it. Write down your goals and commit 100% towards achieving them. Then every day write them down again and commit again. Even if it is just one little step every day you will be amazed at your progress over time and it will make you feel better doing so. BTW also commit to your "education". Education can be school if school has the information you require to move towards your goals but education can also be books, Youtube, wise counsel (mentors) or even a job! Let me give you an example of how a job can be education. Let's say you want to own a pizza franchise, getting a job at your local pizza franchise and working your way up to being the manager would be a great way to educate yourself on what it takes to run and own a pizza franchise and they will pay YOU to get that education. The bottom line is take ACTION TODAY and start moving towards your goals consistently every DAY. I want to know in your next post what you have done TODAY and what you are going to do TOMORROW? All the best.

 

[Tanisha]

Worry is just fear. You need to confront that or you will never take action. It's sound to me like you are in a rut and you need to get out of it. Write down your goals and commit 100% towards achieving them. Then every day write them down again and commit again. Even if it is just one little step every day you will be amazed at your progress over time and it will make you feel better doing so. BTW also commit to your "education". Education can be school if school has the information you require to move towards your goals but education can also be books, Youtube, wise counsel (mentors) or even a job! Let me give you an example of how a job can be education. Let's say you want to own a pizza franchise, getting a job at your local pizza franchise and working your way up to being the manager would be a great way to educate yourself on what it takes to run and own a pizza franchise and they will pay YOU to get that education. The bottom line is take ACTION TODAY and start moving towards your goals consistently every DAY. I want to know in your next post what you have done TODAY and what you are going to do TOMORROW? All the best.

well i plan on letting go of the poor me victim mentality and just take responsibility for the choices that has led to my lack of financial resources, no one made me spend money, no one made me decide to work less it was all me

 

[MJ DeMarco]

i dont currently have a product in mind but i was considering using the $400,000 a month that mj spoke about in millionaire fastlane and pricing it according to that 5 criteria, one product for 50% or $200,000 one product for 33% or $132,000, one product for 10% or $40,000, one product for 4% or $16,000 and one product for 3% or $12,000. now what products those will be i dont know, but at least i have a pricing strategy, i think the business would be less work because i'll be the only employee and if someones interested in the products i wont need much scale because they're priced with magnitude which is something mj endorses

Huh? You have a pricing strategy for a product that doesn't exist in a business that doesn't exist from an idea that has yet to exist?

Seriously @Tanisha, before you start seeing any success you need to change your expectations and your mindset insofar as what it takes to pursue a business that actually adds value in the world. All I sense now is a search for shortcuts.

 

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[G-Man]

im a bank teller i just have a resistance to doing things the bosses way which could make me get fired but im trying to suck it up, the longest i've held a job so far is about 2 weeks the other jobs 4 days and then the third job 3 days so hopefully i can stick with something

Time for some soul searching. If you can't follow directions/ meet expectations for a straightforward job like bank teller, how do you expect to meet the ever more demanding expectations of the market?

I was once a young guy that thought I knew better than everyone I worked for. At some point I realized that, as it turns out, other humans have something to teach me. It doesn't mean I want to work for someone else's money for the rest of my life, just the simple realization that sometimes others know better than I do... in fact, not sometimes... a lot of times...

 

[Iammelissamoore]

To be honest, getting/having a job will actually increase your drive for Entrepreneurship.

As much as I hated my job, it offered the opportunity to master important aspects of life which are the basis of my biz; also, it introduced me to adulthood and taught me how to deal with people from all walks of life, as you'd recognise Entrepreneurship is about doing same.

Surely, having a job can feel stifling, but it grants an opportunity to recognise the things we can do better (as it may assist us in building a productocracy).

Also, to be honest, this is a way parents express their love for us, they simply want to see us succeed, yes, the things they recommend may not specifically be Unscripted , but, these are the things they know/understand. Sometimes we just gotta do these things [temporarily], and quietly, we grind while making movements with our businesses etc.; then, as time goes, they'd see us unfolding with the important things we may have been working on alongside our jobs.

Having your job too, will assist in covering costs which may come up in building your Productocracy, as it is necessary to not only survive while doing so, but you may have to purchase specific hardware, software and other repurchases as you go through the process/progress to keep it flowing, as we know, the success doesn't happen over night.

wow...... just letting all that sink in ..... im crying right now.... you're right i've been/ currently am selfish, i wanted things just for my pleasure not to serve others, i'll admit it, well i saw a video the other day on youtube about how the government collects money it said 50% comes from one source, 33% comes from another source, 10% comes from another source, 4% comes from another source and 3% comes from another source, i dont currently have a product in mind but i was considering using the $400,000 a month that mj spoke about in millionaire fastlane and pricing it according to that 5 criteria, one product for 50% or $200,000 one product for 33% or $132,000, one product for 10% or $40,000, one product for 4% or $16,000 and one product for 3% or $12,000. now what products those will be i dont know, but at least i have a pricing strategy, i think the business would be less work because i'll be the only employee and if someones interested in the products i wont need much scale because they're priced with magnitude which is something mj endorses

I know often times when you post, you strongly speak against this "scripted" life that you 'just don't understand how people can live with it' but then, to a point, you panic off the same items of "script" that you are against. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have concerns about particular things, but trust me, when you reach the level of making huge investments as MJ would have recommended in the book, you would be so versed in what you are doing that you will know when and how to move your money.

The basis of successful companies are Purpose-Driven/Value-Centred Productocracies (sure most of them may not specifically word it this way), but this is the basis of how the successful companies thrive, as well as their owners who do the type of investments you are speaking about.

Sure, you complain about having a job, you complain about your parents being on your back, you complain about what the government is saying about investments, yet you haven't exactly proven to yourself that you hold a solution to these complaints.

Every individual is capable of building successful companies, but not everyone is willing to go through with it, this is so because there are processes, failures, lessons and growth that comes with the territory. If you desire to go the path of living Unscripted then this is a reality you'll have to come to terms with and move with the tides as they come.

 

[Tanisha]

Huh? You have a pricing strategy for a product that doesn't exist in a business that doesn't exist from an idea that has yet to exist?

Seriously @Tanisha, before you start seeing any success you need to change your expectations and your mindset insofar as what it takes to pursue a business that actually adds value in the world. All I sense now is a search for shortcuts.

yikes i was not expecting that reaction, i thought it would be pretty sound once i get going on it, i'll make sure i provide enough value plus some to demand those prices

 

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[Tanisha]

Time for some soul searching. If you can't follow directions/ meet expectations for a straightforward job like bank teller, how do you expect to meet the ever more demanding expectations of the market?

I was once a young guy that thought I knew better than everyone I worked for. At some point I realized that, as it turns out, other humans have something to teach me. It doesn't mean I want to work for someone else's money for the rest of my life, just the simple realization that sometimes others know better than I do... in fact, not sometimes... a lot of times...

yeah, im still learning new things everyday, some are things i never thought id be learning like how amazon runs a billion dollar company

 

[Angelic]

I think you should get a job as it will teach you what actual work is. Then you will soon realize that you don't want to be a wage slave for the rest of your life and maybe it will give you the firepower needed to start executing on a business plan.

 

[businessbaybee]

For me personally, I would not have been able to come up with the idea for my business if it wasn't for my education and my career. It has helped me learn what to do and how to do it, I am literally paid to learn and practice. I also do think having a job when your young is a great thing because like others have said, it teaches you discipline, and gives you drive to do better things next. Best of luck!

 

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[Tanisha]

I think you should get a job as it will teach you what actual work is. Then you will soon realize that you don't want to be a wage slave for the rest of your life and maybe it will give you the firepower needed to start executing on a business plan.

some people can put up with it for decades HOW????

 

[mike24601]

some people can put up with it for decades HOW????

Very simply, the world needs both consumers and producers. Many people are very comfortable in their jobs, and others like us want to stop working much earlier than everyone else. When you have a purposeful and meaningful job, yes, it's work, but it's also something else. If you're a janitor and you keep a huge school building running like a top day in and day out so kids can come to a warm school and learn, I bet you get satisfaction out of that. If you're a nurse and you take care of sick babies all night long, again, you live a life of purpose too. I don't particularly care for my job, but at my work there are employees celebrating 58, 59, and 60 years with the company this year.

One lady claims she hasn't taken a single sick day since 1957...she loves what she's doing and doesn't want to retire. At this point in her life, retiring would kill her. I'm only 26 and I've been steadily employed since I was 15 years old. My target to exit the workforce is at age 36, which gives me 10 years to gather enough wealth where I can do that, but realistically I could retire with a cabin in the woods and be very content whereas others are after a Maserati and a beach villa. In any case, it took a decade of working many different jobs to reach a personal consensus that life is precious, and I no longer want to be a part of the rat race. It will take a while for you too, but remember that you are young and have lots of years ahead of you to do what you need to do. Every first step is a step closer to your goal. Step one: Get a job somewhere. Start saving everything you can. Live frugal now and spend on your business endeavors later. Solve every next problem on a case by case basis.

 

[Tanisha]

Very simply, the world needs both consumers and producers. Many people are very comfortable in their jobs, and others like us want to stop working much earlier than everyone else. When you have a purposeful and meaningful job, yes, it's work, but it's also something else. If you're a janitor and you keep a huge school building running like a top day in and day out so kids can come to a warm school and learn, I bet you get satisfaction out of that. If you're a nurse and you take care of sick babies all night long, again, you live a life of purpose too. I don't particularly care for my job, but at my work there are employees celebrating 58, 59, and 60 years with the company this year.

One lady claims she hasn't taken a single sick day since 1957...she loves what she's doing and doesn't want to retire. At this point in her life, retiring would kill her. I'm only 26 and I've been steadily employed since I was 15 years old. My target to exit the workforce is at age 36, which gives me 10 years to gather enough wealth where I can do that, but realistically I could retire with a cabin in the woods and be very content whereas others are after a Maserati and a beach villa. In any case, it took a decade of working many different jobs to reach a personal consensus that life is precious, and I no longer want to be a part of the rat race. It will take a while for you too, but remember that you are young and have lots of years ahead of you to do what you need to do. Every first step is a step closer to your goal. Step one: Get a job somewhere. Start saving everything you can. Live frugal now and spend on your business endeavors later. Solve every next problem on a case by case basis.

you have a wonderful perspective on life, i really appreciate your wisdom

 

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[SteveO]

some people can put up with it for decades HOW????

I worked a job for 24 years. Started at the age of 13. Learned a lot and enjoyed it.

 

[MiguelHammond10]

it doesnt matter what i do with my life the number one important thing i should be doing is getting a job according to my family, its so frustrating, and my grandma's the worst, she's always on my case about it, i just nod my head say yes and move on with my life, i feel so bad about it because everyone else in my family has a job "there doing something with their lives" and im not, i know i'll have to buckle down and at least start with a job hopefully not for long, i should of known about the whole scripted thing long ago because in about 2014 i went to this class called JOBS 4 LIFE omg i was so stupid but some reason i didnt fall for the job script, i ran into mj's millionaire fastlane and its the best decision i've ever made, i can remember thinking when i was 19 oh this isnt so bad at least i get the weekends off, mj has completely given me new options so im forever grateful

Your family were not frustrating you, Is because they love you and they want the best for you and your future. you need to thank them for that especially your grandma .

 

[Tanisha]

I worked a job for 24 years. Started at the age of 13. Learned a lot and enjoyed it.

maybe im just a spoiled millenial

 

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[Tanisha]

Your family were not frustrating you, Is because they love you and they want the best for you and your future. you need to thank them for that especially your grandma .

ok i'll be more greatful

 

[SteveO]

maybe im just a spoiled millenial

Not judging, just saying...

 

[JAJT]

I'm going to be an a$$. Sorry.

maybe im just a spoiled millenial

Not only does everything you are posting sound lazy as hell, but now it sounds like you are trying to say it's not your fault because of your generation? Really?

Your attitude screams "I hate work and don't want to do it and you can't make me".
This is not a trait of good entrepreneurs.
It's a trait of a child who thinks work is someone else's responsibility.

If you read more, you will pretty clearly see that most Entrepreneurs didn't avoid work - they were often the HARDEST workers. The BEST. Employers LOVED them. They busted their a$$ on the job, added value wherever they could, worked overtime as needed, consulted with management on issues they thought they could help with, volunteered, and in general they kicked a$$.

When they were out of work they busted a$$ to find work.
Or they freelanced.
Or they hustled.

Tell me - what was the last thing you kicked a$$ at?
Or busted a$$ for?
Do you have any history of adding value to other people's lives?
Do you help others when there is no gain in it for you?
When was the last time you got your hands filthy F*cking dirty (figuratively or literally, whatever) to get a job done for no other reason than it needed doing and you could do it?
Do you volunteer? For anything? For anyone?

I guarantee you that if you look at the top entrepreneurs on this forum, their attitude screams "I work".
The ones gloating about not working for other people do so because they put in the damn time to get to that point.

You need to understand this very clearly: Entrepreneurship is going to be many, many, many times harder, more frustrating, more exhausting and with longer hours than a normal job. You will feel lost. Nobody will be there to tell you which direction to go. Nobody will tell you a decision is right, or wrong. Almost every answer you will ever receive will be "well, it depends". Some weeks, months, and even years will have you earning LESS than even a modest job. You may make $1,000 in a week only to look at the numbers and see your expenses were $900. Or $1,200. Or $2,000. When shit breaks - you are the person who fixes it. If your website is broken and you can't pay to have it fixed, well you better put on your coding glasses because guess what? You're a coder now until it's fixed.

It's work.
Hard, thankless, frustrating, confusing, depressing, expensive, lonely work until one day you "figure it out" and something works and you make a killing, or see a nice lucrative exit. But that freedom is on the other side of hard work and adversity.

Also, what's your skillset that makes you believe you can bypass traditional employment?
Clearly if you are fighting against working for others so hard it must be because you know how to make money without it? Right?
What's your plan for money before you become successful at your own business?

Can you afford to live on your own?
Or do you expect mommy and daddy to let you live rent-free, with free food, adding no value to the family so that you can read books on Oprah while you "figure something out"?

Let me be clear

I WANT you to be here.
I WANT you to start your own business.
I WANT to see you successful and killing it and living the high life.
I do, and we do.

But your attitude is broken.
You aren't thinking things through.
You are acting childish.

If you do not have a REAL plan that makes SENSE with REALISTIC expectations, then for everyone's sake, including your own, get a damn job and work on starting something on the side. Funnel all income to your side project. Use it as seed money to build your business and build experience and get successful to a point where quitting won't be something you dream of - it will be the thing you do because it's a poor waste of time that is actually costing you more money than it brings in.

Good luck.

 

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[jon.a]

Thanks, I didn't want to be that guy this time.

I'm going to be an a$$. Sorry.

 

[mike24601]

I vote #landfill. Let this thread rest in peace.