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F*ck This Guy - Tai Lopez

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It's extremely basic. However, to say there's nothing of any practical use in it is not very charitable. Consider these four points:

Rich people acquire assets. The poor and middle class acquire liabilities, but think they are assets.

The state of investment income exceeding expenses is being “wealthy.”

Your profession is not your business, because you work for someone else.

You business revolves around your asset column. Focus on acquiring assets, not increasing income.

If you'd never heard any of those four things before RDPD, and you took them to heart after reading RDPD, the book was worth the price of admission. Shoot, it would have been a bargain at 5 times the price. If you've already started a business, then it's a waste of time.
I agree. I think the concepts in RDPD stand pretty well, while it's 80% fluff/ 20% concepts, TMF is 100% concepts.
 
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It's a little bit deeper than this.

There is no question, absolutely none, that Tai's "brand" is insanely valuable right now. It's a global viral phenomenon, with all associated YT videos at well over 100,000,000 views, 700k subs, 1M IG followers, similar SnapChat numbers, etc. He's name-dropped constantly (as a joke) on absolutely every branch of social media. And, as Donald Trump just taught everyone, if you're brought up constantly, even as an object of ridicule or derision, for long enough, eventually, you win big. The fact that he keeps taking up thread space on this forum, over and over, is evidence of just how insanely large his reach is.

But I don't think his brand will still be winning big in 5 years. Not in its current form, anyway.

I first found TMF years ago, and unlike almost every other business book I read around that time, it still rings just as true, and is just as helpful today. That's the magic of TMF , not that it was ever the "IT" thing of the moment, with hundreds of millions of shares, sales, and comments, but that it keeps being valuable year after year because it's not built on fakery or false images, but something really true, waiting there for anyone who is ready to see it, with no strings attached.

TMF is the paradigmatic example of a fastlane win, because the need-solving value, the logevity, the care, and the quality that went into it continue to make it earn money for the creator without spending the five or six figures a month that Tai must spend on advertising, because the item itself is valuable.

Tai would fade away quickly without new content and huge ad spend, because the genesis of his brand, its core value proposition, is smoke and mirrors and feel-good talk. That's the difference.


With the millions that he's making right now, take some of it & build a fastlane business or two :) Or invest similarly as one who had a fastlane exit & live off the interest, then build a fastlane business with the monthly income that's coming in. Something tells me he's likely already doing that, because that's what I'd do!
 

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His teachings and training are formatted in such a way that it is impractical and nothing tangible. There is very little substantive value in what he says. It just sounds cool and "successful"

He regurgitates shit he reads and people eat it up like its the gospel.

He's a brilliant marketer no doubt,but he has no ethics in what he's doing.

These "gurus" are robbing people, they are sociopathic con artists.
 

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This is a very interesting thread indeed! As always, TMF full of insight, I begin to drool as I load the forum's homepage.

Anyway I have something that will intrigue many of you, recently Tai has started a social media marketing course, his aim is to make 100 6 figure income earners with this course. After reading TMF and using my own common sense, it seemed obvious to me that this was one of those low entry, get rich easy schemes. However I'm really confused now because I have 3 friends who are on the course, 2 of them are already getting paid $1000 a month and the other one (online friend) was recently interviewed by big media outlets for running a successful agency at his age (he's 15). And they've all given credit to Tai's course.

Maybe this is just a coincidence. Has anyone actually been on his social media course and if so, how valuable is the learning material? There are a lot of positive testimonials of the course on Youtube and his own social media but for obvious reasons those can't be relied upon.
 
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This is a very interesting thread indeed! As always, TMF full of insight, I begin to drool as I load the forum's homepage.

Anyway I have something that will intrigue many of you, recently Tai has started a social media marketing course, his aim is to make 100 6 figure income earners with this course. After reading TMF and using my own common sense, it seemed obvious to me that this was one of those low entry, get rich easy schemes. However I'm really confused now because I have 3 friends who are on the course, 2 of them are already getting paid $1000 a month and the other one (online friend) was recently interviewed by big media outlets for running a successful agency at his age (he's 15). And they've all given credit to Tai's course.

Maybe this is just a coincidence. Has anyone actually been on his social media course and if so, how valuable is the learning material? There are a lot of positive testimonials of the course on Youtube and his own social media but for obvious reasons those can't be relied upon.
damn if that's true then I take back what I said lol
 

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And they've all given credit to Tai's course.

I hate when people "give credit" to someone else for their work. What is the point in doing this? Yes I agree resources like this forum and MJ's book probably saved me years of work and I thank him and all of you for helping me out but saying the credit goes to anyone but me makes it sound like I never would've made it without them and like I didn't put in any work.

So let me ask you, would your friends, in your opinion, have ever reached that type of success ($1000 a month?) without Tai?

What I'm trying to say is, in my opinion, those that are successful would have figured it out one way or another. So Tai might have helped them but they were going to accomplish that shit anyway.

BTW; I give credit to MJ's mom for literally giving birth to TMF. Without her forever would I be poor.
 

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its his business to sell his course,

he markets courses to almost the mass population, that involves free car givaways for shares follows and likes.
buying tons of youtube ads.
creating controversy for publicity.

he has a following because its his business.

people who think his validity as a successful individual is based off of likes and subscribers have no idea.

in the average persons head there are only about 30-50 millionaires:
warrent buffet, mark cuban, A list celebrities, mark zuckerberg, some arab oil guy somewhere in dubai and then theres Tai Lopez.

there are people making more F*cking money than god himself.

i saw a viral post of christiano ronaldos new car the other day.
"just got my new car" with a mercadez 4x4
"wow I wish i could be a pro footballer so i could have that car"
there are so many people you've never heard of making money and most of them avoid the spotlight at all costs.
It irritates me to the point that i have to rant about it on forums.

he should be appreciated for his skill as a footballer, but you can have that car without being a pro footballer or one of the lucky few that make it as an actor.
 
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This is a very interesting thread indeed! As always, TMF full of insight, I begin to drool as I load the forum's homepage.

Anyway I have something that will intrigue many of you, recently Tai has started a social media marketing course, his aim is to make 100 6 figure income earners with this course. After reading TMF and using my own common sense, it seemed obvious to me that this was one of those low entry, get rich easy schemes. However I'm really confused now because I have 3 friends who are on the course, 2 of them are already getting paid $1000 a month and the other one (online friend) was recently interviewed by big media outlets for running a successful agency at his age (he's 15). And they've all given credit to Tai's course.

Maybe this is just a coincidence. Has anyone actually been on his social media course and if so, how valuable is the learning material? There are a lot of positive testimonials of the course on Youtube and his own social media but for obvious reasons those can't be relied upon.


I have purchased his 67 steps program. I have done lots of research prior to this investment but I had come to a conclusion no matter what value he says he will provide it doesn't really matter. This guy is a marketing mastermind, I bought it to learn how he displays himself and his program... to learn from the best. Maybe I didn't take that much value but the value I took was learning his way of marketing. Tai is a genius. Body language, the way he speaks where he never gets to the point and kind of beats around the bush is a tactic and something to learn from.

Though I will say his 67 steps program does provide "Value". Not just learning his tactis to fool people but he does give out some good pointers. He brings up lots of good points where makes you can benefit from it. Lots of the videos are kind of what you take from it. I try to take notes on some videos and sometimes just get crap. He elaborates around the point hes trying to make. Most of his videos are like 60-75 min long in the course.

Overall, it's what you can make of it. Tai is someone to look up to. Just because he may seem really cheesey and come off as a douche is no reason to learn from it. Do I recommend his 67 steps program? Yes and no, if you're looking for true marketing tips no... but if you want to see how he markets and fools people than yes.
 

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Tai is a clever guy. I always ask myself how can I replicate him. What he does works and I give him props for it. He's #1 and in a world of competition, he reached the ladder to be #1. I respect him for it.
 
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Tai is a clever guy. I always ask myself how can I replicate him. What he does works and I give him props for it. He's #1 and in a world of competition, he reached the ladder to be #1. I respect him for it.

It's all an illusion he creates and this seems to be appealing to a mass audience of -at best - slowlaners.

I am sure this "social media agency" program he is selling might have some value, when it comes to acquire clients. But what comes after that. I don't believe the narrative "all you need is a phone".

So keeping the business alive is the real challenge, lets see how this works out longterm.

Also I don't believe this guy will be around in a few years...


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Tai is a clever guy. I always ask myself how can I replicate him. What he does works and I give him props for it. He's #1 and in a world of competition, he reached the ladder to be #1. I respect him for it.

I've also thought about this. IMO I don't know if it would be a lifestyle that I would want to live, even with all the wealth he's acquired from it. Having multiple cameras on you recording at all times. Always being that guy at outings with friends/family, recording himself and others. It just seems awkward and forced. Idk, lying from the beginning to the masses just doesn't seem like the way that i'd want to acquire wealth. To each their own I guess.
 

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I've also thought about this. IMO I don't know if it would be a lifestyle that I would want to live, even with all the wealth he's acquired from it. Having multiple cameras on you recording at all times. Always being that guy at outings with friends/family, recording himself and others. It just seems awkward and forced. Idk, lying from the beginning to the masses just doesn't seem like the way that i'd want to acquire wealth. To each their own I guess.

I doubt those people are his friends. Employees, Golddiggers, Fitness people and his grandma. Not to shabby.


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It's all an illusion he creates and this seems to be appealing to a mass audience of -at best - slowlaners.
People are gullible and on auto-pilot. They don't own TMG so they can't compare apples with apples. Most guru's just speak in circles never getting into any level of depth on topics. They just use buzz words/or buzz concepts that sounds good. But when you break them down. And look for tangibility. There's really nothing there.

Here is one example from Tai:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n82CNXCfYAA


I made a comment in the comment section and suggested they read TMF. I give cred to Tai though. He's putting himself out there majorly. That's like all you need to do when you can buy traffic on YouTube for less than a dollar. And if you sell a course for $1000. It's not hard to figure out that it's easy to make bank. That's the only two things I take from Tai.
 
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HE TOLD US HIS SECRET!!! In this video he says "If there was a gun to my head and I had to make a million dollars I would take a big idea from a big market and take it to a small market."

WOW. Now I understand how he did it! He took his business to the small market of Youtube! He bought out almost every ad on the video sharing site that gets 5 BILLION views per DAY. Small markets are where its at! Thanks Tai!! He is so eye opening!
 

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The beauty of Tai is no matter what his haters say, he always seems to deliver the big personalities to his doorstep.

At this point, I expect him to do a video with President Trump soon. "Hey guys, I'm just here at Trump Tower visiting my bud, the next President."

Then all of us laugh and say "Ha Ha, bullshit!!"

And then the next thing you know, he's in Trump's office shooting the shit!

If anyone can do it, Tai can!
 
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HE TOLD US HIS SECRET!!! In this video he says "If there was a gun to my head and I had to make a million dollars I would take a big idea from a big market and take it to a small market."
He could had said the complete opposite too. For the same effect. Or a variant of that.
"You know what I do... I look for a big idea in a small market, something that hasn't been fully exploited. Then I bring it to a big market like the USA, Germany or Japan."

I guess in the video he is saying that a country's economic size is a market. Kind of funny. And we should make sure it's part of our destiny.
 
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He's a genius marketer and maybe he'll be a forever tycoon, but this is the sort of thing that feels like a castle made of sand that has to come apart at some point.

I give it 10 years max before we see him on tv in an orange jumpsuit after one of his followers dies in a sweat lodge, coal walk, or goes on a shooting spree at a meditation center.
 

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It's extremely basic. However, to say there's nothing of any practical use in it is not very charitable. Consider these four points:

Rich people acquire assets. The poor and middle class acquire liabilities, but think they are assets.

The state of investment income exceeding expenses is being “wealthy.”

Your profession is not your business, because you work for someone else.

You business revolves around your asset column. Focus on acquiring assets, not increasing income.

If you'd never heard any of those four things before RDPD, and you took them to heart after reading RDPD, the book was worth the price of admission. Shoot, it would have been a bargain at 5 times the price. If you've already started a business, then it's a waste of time.

I assure you I considered all these points, and I still stand by what I said.

If you recall, I said I learned nothing of practical use. Just as you can do an entire major of Cultural Anthropology and learn almost nothing of practical use, even though you have have learned enough about the subject to earn yourself a degree.

RDPD was much the same for me, and while I learned some new concepts, after finishing the book I had no idea how to apply them. I still had no idea how to just come up with $15000 to put a down-payment on a property to invest in. The only thing I could think of was get a job, which Kiyosaki seemed to think was blasphemy.

Added to that, the terms assets and liabilities, and the concept that wealthy people are wealthy through assets (which I'll add is extremely simplistic) is not exactly esoteric knowledge, and you can learn this from just about any finance book, or a quick Google search.
As for use in practicality, despite what Robert says, cars and properties are legally considered assets, and you would need to understand this if you were ever to do a genuine evaluation of yours, or another business.

You can see in my comment that I did however mention that I got value through the book because it propelled me to do more research on the subject on business, which ultimately led me to TMF, this forum, and various other mature resources. I would hardly consider making an honest assessment of the value one personally received from a certain book which they read four years ago to be a lack of charity.
 
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He's a genius marketer and maybe he'll be a forever tycoon, but this is the sort of thing that feels like a castle made of sand that has to come apart at some point.

I give it 10 years max before we see him on tv in an orange jumpsuit after one of his followers dies in a sweat lodge, coal walk, or goes on a shooting spree at a meditation center.
Or maybe he'll just go along with his seemingly well-established career, and the nice pile of gold he's made for himself.

He's not really doing anything wrong. He's a salesman, and people are buying his product.
 

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The beauty of Tai is no matter what his haters say, he always seems to deliver the big personalities to his doorstep.

That's definitely true. But there is no value in camouflaging your shallow thoughts with Rihanna or Chris Paul.

Sooner or later people will find out...


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It's a little bit deeper than this.

There is no question, absolutely none, that Tai's "brand" is insanely valuable right now. It's a global viral phenomenon, with all associated YT videos at well over 100,000,000 views, 700k subs, 1M IG followers, similar SnapChat numbers, etc. He's name-dropped constantly (as a joke) on absolutely every branch of social media. And, as Donald Trump just taught everyone, if you're brought up constantly, even as an object of ridicule or derision, for long enough, eventually, you win big. The fact that he keeps taking up thread space on this forum, over and over, is evidence of just how insanely large his reach is.

But I don't think his brand will still be winning big in 5 years. Not in its current form, anyway.

I first found TMF years ago, and unlike almost every other business book I read around that time, it still rings just as true, and is just as helpful today. That's the magic of TMF, not that it was ever the "IT" thing of the moment, with hundreds of millions of shares, sales, and comments, but that it keeps being valuable year after year because it's not built on fakery or false images, but something really true, waiting there for anyone who is ready to see it, with no strings attached.

TMF is the paradigmatic example of a fastlane win, because the need-solving value, the logevity, the care, and the quality that went into it continue to make it earn money for the creator without spending the five or six figures a month that Tai must spend on advertising, because the item itself is valuable.

Tai would fade away quickly without new content and huge ad spend, because the genesis of his brand, its core value proposition, is smoke and mirrors and feel-good talk. That's the difference.

TAI launched a book box club at 500% mark up vs just reading the book. Anyone else hear? LOL
 
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You know mindset is a very important thing for entrepreneurs. Even though the 67 Steps and the Accelerator don't quite give tangible actions that apply directly to every business, I'm sure there are a few gold nuggets of information that can be found from his courses that apply to you.

At the end of the day, no course is going to make you a millionaire. It's about the actions you take on a day to day basis that truly bring results.

I am in his Social Media & Internet Marketing Agency and I must say it is definitely a step up from his previous courses. The business model involved is very sound and has tangible benefits for small business owners and the videos are actually quite good as he brings in experts. I'm still finishing up the course and am excited to go prospecting for clients very soon.

I would not say that he's a scam, but more so a very persuasive Internet Marketer.
 

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However I'm really confused now because I have 3 friends who are on the course, 2 of them are already getting paid $1000 a month and the other one (online friend) was recently interviewed by big media outlets for running a successful agency at his age (he's 15). And they've all given credit to Tai's course.

Maybe this is just a coincidence. Has anyone actually been on his social media course and if so, how valuable is the learning material? There are a lot of positive testimonials of the course on Youtube and his own social media but for obvious reasons those can't be relied upon.

They are your friends so why don't you just ask them what they have learned?
 

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I still have no idea who that guy is. I get that he likes books, but I fear if I look it up and it ends up being something like "the secret to success is reading a book a day" kind of thing I'm gonna have a stroke.
Yeah. The secret to getting better at reading is to read a book a day.
 
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It's a little bit deeper than this.

There is no question, absolutely none, that Tai's "brand" is insanely valuable right now. It's a global viral phenomenon, with all associated YT videos at well over 100,000,000 views, 700k subs, 1M IG followers, similar SnapChat numbers, etc. He's name-dropped constantly (as a joke) on absolutely every branch of social media. And, as Donald Trump just taught everyone, if you're brought up constantly, even as an object of ridicule or derision, for long enough, eventually, you win big. The fact that he keeps taking up thread space on this forum, over and over, is evidence of just how insanely large his reach is.

But I don't think his brand will still be winning big in 5 years. Not in its current form, anyway.

I first found TMF years ago, and unlike almost every other business book I read around that time, it still rings just as true, and is just as helpful today. That's the magic of TMF, not that it was ever the "IT" thing of the moment, with hundreds of millions of shares, sales, and comments, but that it keeps being valuable year after year because it's not built on fakery or false images, but something really true, waiting there for anyone who is ready to see it, with no strings attached.

TMF is the paradigmatic example of a fastlane win, because the need-solving value, the logevity, the care, and the quality that went into it continue to make it earn money for the creator without spending the five or six figures a month that Tai must spend on advertising, because the item itself is valuable.

Tai would fade away quickly without new content and huge ad spend, because the genesis of his brand, its core value proposition, is smoke and mirrors and feel-good talk. That's the difference.
/drops mic
 

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RDPD was much the same for me, and while I learned some new concepts, after finishing the book I had no idea how to apply them. I still had no idea how to just come up with $15000 to put a down-payment on a property to invest in. The only thing I could think of was get a job, which Kiyosaki seemed to think was blasphemy.

Yeah. He did leave out some of the exact steps. I can see how that would bum some people out.
 

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