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Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency Discussion (And Predictions)

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I read about crypto investing on this very forum and thought everyone was nuts for investing in it. You can imagine how much I regret not taking it seriously now haha. Could have been one of the news headlines but oh well!

I just jumped in the pool of dumb money and invested with some extra cash.

Up 30% in a day but my long-term strategy is to buy and hold a few coins so that is nothing to get too excited about.
 
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I freaking love this.
 

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Actually, no..

Litecoin technologically has some features that are not available in BTC, and the BTC hype has just helped the people be more aware of it. LTC is faster, more 'private' and transactions cost less. Also the founder has taken advantage of all the hype to gain some publicity on the coin. Apart from the technology & marketing, there are also people that 'missed' the BTC train and want to catch the next best one :)


To be fair, they say the same thing about Etherium. What is the 'technology'? Sure, they might market it this way, but we understand the technology? BTC is intended to be currency, not technology. Competing currencies are pretty much just that, currency. It's like saying Canadian Dollar bills are designed with better tech... sure, the bills might be a lot more sleek and indestructible, but right now it's valued at less than the USD.
 

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To be fair, they say the same thing about Etherium. What is the 'technology'? Sure, they might market it this way, but we understand the technology? BTC is intended to be currency, not technology. Competing currencies are pretty much just that, currency. It's like saying Canadian Dollar bills are designed with better tech... sure, the bills might be a lot more sleek and indestructible, but right now it's valued at less than the USD.
Well, while understanding the differences between scrypt & sha256 might be difficult for the average Joe, faster transaction times & lower fees are pretty easy to grasp :)
ETH is a completely different thing, it was not built to be treated as a currency like BTC, but more as a digital 'fuel' to run distributed apps & smart contracts.
 
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24 hour Net Neutrality play idea: Substratum.

If Net Neutrality repeal passes: Substratum is a "Decentralized web host", meaning even if Net Neutrality repeal passes tomorrow and cable companies impose "pay channels" people can still access all the websites normally through Substratum network. Coin does a 25%-100% jump on this imho. Or I look like an idiot, which is worth it :smile2:.

If Net Neutrality repeal doesn't pass: (Besides rejoicing at cable companies' loss). Substratum is one of the few alt coins with an actual technology, active team, and pumped by DataDash(most popular crypto youtuber). It will hold/recover price.
 

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Great to here you are doing so good.

How much money do you risked to make the $10,000?
What is the risk you are taking?
Let's say a currency is trading for 100 at platform A and for 115 at platform B. What you do is buy as much as you can at platform A and than transfer it instantly to platform B to instantly sell it.
How long does the transfer take?
I used to make arbitrages in sports betting when the market was very inefficient many years ago so this sounds very interesing to me.

I guess you have to wait for big upward swings to make this work?
What about pump and dumps? Isn't that a risk for your strategy or are you only trading the bigger currenices to avoid this?

Any resources you can recommend?


btw sorry for all the questions haha but I like your approach because this way you make bank no matter if the hole thing is a bubble or not. Keep crushing it!
$25,000 risk capital on these trades.
Only risk is slow transaction times which can leave you holding an illiquid asset for extended periods of time. Litecoin is typically pretty fast, Bitcoin transactions were absurd today that I lost $1k on just due to market fluctuations(had 3 take more than 12 hours!).
Yep, that's it.
For LTC, 20-160 minutes in my experience, seems to depend upon exchange too.
Big upswings where the market hasn't had time to catch up is the ideal environment. This just another tool in the toolbox, though a very valuable one at times.
I've only done it with LTC which avoids the pump and dumps of the alts to some extent, though this can still be a risky strategy if your % difference isn't wide enough. I won't do it unless it's more than 10% difference. It really doesn't take much time for that difference to completely disappear in these markets so it is very time and market momentum critical.

Resources? Go trade, lose some money, make some money. I think the biggest barrier to entry here is just getting all of your accounts setup and verified on the different exchanges. Takes significant amounts of time for some of the more popular ones that are overloaded currently with new signups.
 

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A 70 year old woman I know, who can barely work her email, asked me yesterday if I knew anything about "this bitcoin thingy"

She's fairly wealthy and wants to buy some now.

Dumb money is definitely here.

I overheard some 60-something rednecks at the hardware store talking Bitcoin strategy on Monday...
 
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Got my accounts set up. Got verified on a few sites. Gonna pull the trigger tomorrow. Ripple and blc. I'm not investing more then I can afford to lose (oxymoron). Curious. Has anyone one been able to convert 10k from crypto to hard cash?
 

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Horse racing is my real game. It's definitely gambling, but gambling with an edge. What happens in horse racing is you get to analyze charts and bet against dumb money. You are literally better off when dumb money flows into the race, because anytime you can gain a statistical Edge against the money flow you can win. Now horse racing is still dependent on variables that are outside of your control, but hopefully you are wagering with money that you can afford to lose. You do your homework, you take a Plunge, and you hope that the external factors break in your favor. However, the most money to be gained is the surge that happens when the uneducated money comes in. It's nothing to be afraid of... It's the reason you are there. Gaining an edge against the odds when dumb money Flows In is how you win at gambling. You don't have to have everything figured out. You just have to be one step ahead of the public at Large. One edge. One reason. One gamble that you can back with cash. And a little bit of luck on your timing.
 

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Horse racing is my real game. It's definitely gambling, but gambling with an edge. What happens in horse racing is you get to analyze charts and bet against dumb money. You are literally better off when dumb money flows into the race, because anytime you can gain a statistical Edge against the money flow you can win. Now horse racing is still dependent on variables that are outside of your control, but hopefully you are wagering with money that you can afford to lose. You do your homework, you take a Plunge, and you hope that the external factors break in your favor. However, the most money to be gained is the surge that happens when the uneducated money comes in. It's nothing to be afraid of... It's the reason you are there. Gaining an edge against the odds when dumb money Flows In is how you win at gambling. You don't have to have everything figured out. You just have to be one step ahead of the public at Large. One edge. One reason. One gamble that you can back with cash. And a little bit of luck on your timing.
Same as poker. You take the dumber money. It's not gambling if you're always playing with an edge.

My first and likely last post in this thread as I know I'm dumb money and have smarter uses of my money. I'm gleefully undistracted by bitcoin.
 
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These past weeks.. Outside of Feedbackz; I have been up to my neck in crypto. I move so fast now & I will have to self-profess that I have become a fairly good crypto trader. My plan is to exit out of this with no less than $10M.. hopefully $100M if my cards play out super-right.. all within 2 years.

At my current rate; I'm gaining 100% of my day-trade amount every week or so; this is profit pulled out. So every month I am nearly 3x to 4x my initial investment. Most of my profit is going back into Gen2 coins for long-holds. I'm looking to get 100x out of my long holds by mid 2019.

Outside of just trading & positioning coins; I also have a fastlane I'm almost done completing. If all goes well; this will bring in $2-3M to compliment my coin exit strategy.

Bubble or not; I am taking FULL ADVANTAGE & once I reach my projected number within a projected time frame; I'm out & gone. Once the smoke clears; then I'll come back & find the Apples, Facebooks, and Amazons of today...
 

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Guys i know this question must have been asked so many times...but are you using Coinbase or Binance ?
What do you thing about Coinbase because i'm getting myself started but then i saw the facebook page of Coinbase and a lot of people are saying that they can't withdraw their money or nobody is answering...
(I can't even verify my account i can't receive any confirmation email from them)

Thanks!
 

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Guys i know this question must have been asked so many times...but are you using Coinbase or Binance ?
What do you thing about Coinbase because i'm getting myself started but then i saw the facebook page of Coinbase and a lot of people are saying that they can't withdraw their money or nobody is answering...
(I can't even verify my account i can't receive any confirmation email from them)

Thanks!
Coinbase is overrun right now, they are getting over 100.000 new users every day since this madness started.

So I guess they are having huge delays because of this.

Enviado desde mi Mi Note 2 mediante Tapatalk
 
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Horse racing is my real game. It's definitely gambling, but gambling with an edge. What happens in horse racing is you get to analyze charts and bet against dumb money. You are literally better off when dumb money flows into the race, because anytime you can gain a statistical Edge against the money flow you can win. Now horse racing is still dependent on variables that are outside of your control, but hopefully you are wagering with money that you can afford to lose. You do your homework, you take a Plunge, and you hope that the external factors break in your favor. However, the most money to be gained is the surge that happens when the uneducated money comes in. It's nothing to be afraid of... It's the reason you are there. Gaining an edge against the odds when dumb money Flows In is how you win at gambling. You don't have to have everything figured out. You just have to be one step ahead of the public at Large. One edge. One reason. One gamble that you can back with cash. And a little bit of luck on your timing.
This is so true. Dumb money starting flowing in at 10k and helped bring the value up to 18k.

This made many a small (or massive) fortune.

Dumb money is great if you play the cards right. From the looks of it with all the publicity there is still some dumb money waiting to be pumped into the system, making all of the smart traders even more money.
 

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I am going to establish a buy and hold as a long-term investment...

The best route..

From the looks of it with all the publicity there is still some dumb money waiting to be pumped into the system, making all of the smart traders even more money.

From an typical average household: Everybody knows about Bitcoin; few have actually taken action to put some money towards it YET. Most people know a co-worker or two who have, but the big wave of the majority is on the fence and will likely be pouring in even harder Q1 & Q2 of 2018. I think we've just touched the tip of the ice berg as far as money coming into the market cap of crypto.
 

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Scarcity psychology also plays a huge role. The fact that there is a perception of a limited quantity of gold plays into the market demand for gold and the price. The fact that there is the perception of limited quantities of cryptocurrency, added to the fact that even once you get an account you can't go Hog Wild from a ease of access on the buy side or the sell side... It's all creating additional mystery and hype that makes acquiring the coins more intriguing. I think the scarcity is going to continue to create more interest than availability. When there is more interest than availability the market responds with increased pricing. That's just common economics. Add to that the.com era hype and short-term visions of large gains and you have a bubble that is reminiscent of the dot-com era. The only difference is since this is a physically traded commodity that has the chance to really change the world currency, it doesn't necessarily have to end the same way the.com boom ended. There doesn't have to be a crash although there could be.

Hard to tell the real value of a Bitcoin. Is it zero? Is it $20,000? Is it a million dollars? The answer is it is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. The more people that want it... the more it is worth.
 
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I doubled my initial buy-in on LTC when it shot up to $370's, pulled 50% out, waited for a pull back, and now put the 50% back in after the pull back.

Sold out of ETH and am just long in LTC and will just let that ride now. If everybody's psychological number on it is $1,000, I'll start dumping at $950.

I'm content now to just let it ride.
 

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I doubled my initial buy-in on LTC when it shot up to $370's, pulled 50% out, waited for a pull back, and now put the 50% back in after the pull back.

Sold out of ETH and am just long in LTC and will just let that ride now. If everybody's psychological number on it is $1,000, I'll start dumping at $950.

I'm content now to just let it ride.

Solid! Chipping a few out to some early Gen2 coins like Iota and EOS every now & then for holding long (at least a year without touching it) wouldn't be a bad idea :cool:
 
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These past weeks.. Outside of Feedbackz; I have been up to my neck in crypto. I move so fast now & I will have to self-profess that I have become a fairly good crypto trader. My plan is to exit out of this with no less than $10M.. hopefully $100M if my cards play out super-right.. all within 2 years.

At my current rate; I'm gaining 100% of my day-trade amount every week or so; this is profit pulled out. So every month I am nearly 3x to 4x my initial investment. Most of my profit is going back into Gen2 coins for long-holds. I'm looking to get 100x out of my long holds by mid 2019.

Outside of just trading & positioning coins; I also have a fastlane I'm almost done completing. If all goes well; this will bring in $2-3M to compliment my coin exit strategy.

Bubble or not; I am taking FULL ADVANTAGE & once I reach my projected number within a projected time frame; I'm out & gone. Once the smoke clears; then I'll come back & find the Apples, Facebooks, and Amazons of today...

Hmm, if you spend time daytrading, is there any time for the fastlane business left?
 
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Solid! Chipping a few out to some early Gen2 coins like Iota and EOS every now & then for holding long (at least a year without touching it) wouldn't be a bad idea :cool:

This is what I've been doing. Just taking the gains from Bitcoin, Eth, Ltc and collecting alt coins on the side. At this point I'm not playing with my own money anymore. At least not beyond the initial investment. Fun money, and it's definitely fun.
 
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These past weeks.. Outside of Feedbackz; I have been up to my neck in crypto. I move so fast now & I will have to self-profess that I have become a fairly good crypto trader.

Out of curiosity, and this is 100% a "dumb trader" question, is day trading crypto to see these kinds of gains simply a result of taking advantage of fast moving volatility?

I see a chart like this on coin-square (Canadian exchange, not even sure if it's appropriate to day trade on, but as an example):

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That's a 1 day snapshot and it looks like there's about a full $100 difference between most peaks and valleys and they happen a dozen times a day.

Do you just buy the valleys and sell the peaks? I realize it's hard to time this stuff but is that basically all there is to it? Is the trade instant or are there delays? You on GDAX I imagine?

I've been playing "buy and hold" and have literally zero day trading experience. Would be curious what an example of typical "trading cycle" looks like for you and other fast-moving traders like yourself.

Like MJ, I'm 100% dumb money. Whether I make some money in this trend or lose it all I'm not really concerned but I'd certainly love to learn a bit more from folks like yourself who seem to "get it".
 

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Hmm, if you spend time daytrading, is there any time for the fastlane business left?

This. How you organize yourself on those two?

Sure thing.. basically, my fastlane path is baked right into the act of day-trading. So day-trading (apart from just looking for signals and analyzing stuff) involves quite a bit social activity; whether that's sharing ideas, reading/consuming content, or real-time chatting with others. By me simply trading throughout the day; I also grow my business at the same time.

Granted, eventually I will need to spend some time on outside stuff on marketing, right now; to gain traction - I can grow users by just being in it.

I don't plan on publicly explaining or starting a thread on this fastlane, simply because probably about 95% here are my target market - and I don't want to feel like every time I talk about crypto here, it feels like an under-cover ad. But I do hope that more others from this forum jump into & start some type of support product or service in this crypto space.. it's ALOT of money & ALOT of people willing to spend ALOT of money. It's still developing, so you may not be able to think of any viable ideas now, but trust, there will be an entire industry of avenues to choose from as it matures!

Out of curiosity, and this is 100% a "dumb trader" question, is day trading crypto to see these kinds of gains simply a result of taking advantage of fast moving volatility?

So I'll start off with what I always tell most people: Hold lol. In order for me to make money; someone has to lose it. The only way someone loses in this bull market is when they sell (usually panic sell) or attempt to sell high, buy at dips, to buy more coins. One can only do that for so long before taking a good amount of losses because no one can time this market.

With that said; you are speaking of swing trading.. I have done that before with some success but it's way too time & energy intensive with minimal profits. What I do is spot which coins are primed for a big run & go sit there before it happens. We are talking about runs of 10-15% minimum (which is an every day thing in crypto).. a few times per month; there are coins that go on 50% days back to back.

I catch 1 or 2 real good runs like Litecoin's most recent, etc. per month and about 2-3 of those smaller 10% runs per week and you can see where my bankroll is tripled pretty quick. I will take losses sometimes, but at this point; I usually go about 4 or 5 wins before I take a loss..

A specific example: This week and upcoming weekend; I suspect Bitcoin to make a big break towards the $20k's on Friday evening. Most would think I'm crazy and there is chatter that Bitcoin is on a bear'ish slope, but through experience I think it won't. Iota is sitting in a HUGE pennant pattern and consolidating waiting to bust out. LTC likes to piggy-back off any big BTC runs. So.. if we put that together, my bets are:

1. Sit in IOTA until it breaks. (hoping it breaks up which is more probably than not). Profit & move to..
2. Bitcoin by Friday til Monday. Profit and move to.. (this is conditional, I may not move on, it just depends)..
3. Litecoin to catch any mimmicking run that happens 12hrs to a day later..
4. Eth (sometimes) will mimmick a similar run.. (this is hit or miss)
 
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Awesome response. Rep+

Thanks :)
 

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I am interested in the underlying technology of crypto more than trading...

What does everyone think of Ethereum's competitors?
  • NEO
  • STRATIS
  • WAVES
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  • NXT
  • LISK
I am leaning towards learning to develop in Ethereum since it is the most widely adapted, but who knows which technology will win.
 

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Guys i know this question must have been asked so many times...but are you using Coinbase or Binance ?
What do you thing about Coinbase because i'm getting myself started but then i saw the facebook page of Coinbase and a lot of people are saying that they can't withdraw their money or nobody is answering...
(I can't even verify my account i can't receive any confirmation email from them)

Thanks!


I created my Coinbase acct at 5am and had no issues. Took 5 minutes, was verified within 15 min and ny Eth purchase from debit card went through in less than 15 min.

I sent all my Eth to binance though because I dumped everything into alt coins that I plan on forgetting I own until a year from now.
 
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Anyone have any idea on how to buy Ripple? I'm ready to pull the trigger on it.
 

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I catch 1 or 2 real good runs like Litecoin's most recent, etc. per month and about 2-3 of those smaller 10% runs per week and you can see where my bankroll is tripled pretty quick. I will take losses sometimes, but at this point; I usually go about 4 or 5 wins before I take a loss..

A specific example: This week and upcoming weekend; I suspect Bitcoin to make a big break towards the $20k's on Friday evening. Most would think I'm crazy and there is chatter that Bitcoin is on a bear'ish slope, but through experience I think it won't. Iota is sitting in a HUGE pennant pattern and consolidating waiting to bust out. LTC likes to piggy-back off any big BTC runs. So.. if we put that together, my bets are:

1. Sit in IOTA until it breaks. (hoping it breaks up which is more probably than not). Profit & move to..
2. Bitcoin by Friday til Monday. Profit and move to.. (this is conditional, I may not move on, it just depends)..
3. Litecoin to catch any mimmicking run that happens 12hrs to a day later..
4. Eth (sometimes) will mimmick a similar run.. (this is hit or miss)

Thanks for the input my friend. That's the kind of strategy that I was trying to figure out to invest. Would you share some places/sources to look for information to be ahead of the trend? Rep transferred $$++ :)
 

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