Back to a JOB ... attitude problem!

[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper">After leaving my job and wholesaling real estate for the last 6 months, I&#039;m broke. The market in which I am wholesaling absolutely sucks, and I&#039;ve not been able to make 1/10 of the money I should have by now. So I&#039;m forced to work for someone else again, and just the thought of it makes me angry as hell. <br /> <br /> Now this isn&#039;t a &quot;feel sorry for me&quot; thread; I need some advice on how to change my attitude. I absolutely love being in control of what I am doing, and I don&#039;t know how I am going to give up that control. <br /> <br /> My girlfriend wants me to get an IT job again and we&#039;ve had quite a few heated discussions about it because I absolutely hate IT. I have been applying for part time work and other fields that I&#039;m not really qualified for and what I&#039;m hearing is &quot;why the f... does someone with 20 years of IT experience want this job?!&quot;. So that has been a bust! <br /> <br /> I&#039;ve passed up a couple of IT jobs because I knew I&#039;d be wasting their time and mine. My girlfriend was so pissed, and I still hear about it every time we argue. I just could not drag myself to the final interviews, it felt like I was sentencing my self to death row. I know it may sound stupid, but it&#039;s how I truly feel. <br /> <br /> I don&#039;t know how I can seriously interview for a job I don&#039;t want. Even if I do by some miraculous circumstance get the job, I don&#039;t know how I&#039;d perform when I don&#039;t give a sh.. about the company or the work. <br /> <br /> I&#039;m starting to make a lot of excuses and that&#039;s not me. I work like hell on every business venture that I&#039;m a part of and I stay very motivated. I just don&#039;t know how to harness that emotion and dedication while working for someone else.<br /> <br /> Because I absolutely need a source of income and I&#039;m not ready mentally for employment yet, I&#039;ve been exploring other options like, flipping, picking, and wholesaling other items. I&#039;m still new and it might take some time, but I&#039;m hoping it allows me to keep working for myself.<br /> <br /> Anyway, any advice, criticism, or other harsh words are welcome. Maybe I need a wake up call?</div>

 

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[Jake]

<div class="bbWrapper">Nothing wrong with a paycheck..especially if you&#039;re getting weekends and evenings off. 40 hrs shouldn&#039;t compromise your dreams.</div>

 

[Tom.V]

<div class="bbWrapper">Either hustle while you work on your project, or get a job. Considering I quit my job 109 days ago, I have started to hustle more to stay afloat until my project takes off, which is right around the corner. I&#039;m actually in the process of outsourcing my hustle to turn it into a fairly passive stream.<br /> <br /> My opinion is, you had your wakeup call. And it sounds like you missed it. You quit your job and attacked a dying market? A little word of advice from someone going through almost the same thing, focus on things with HUGE potential for scale. Nothing else. If there is not a thriving and growing market for whatever it is you are doing, ditch it and find a market that you can enter. CENTS really is your friend.<br /> <br /> Maybe you need a job to get yourself stable and to get your mind back on the right track, everyone is different.</div>

 

[Runum]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 290751" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290751" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290751">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> After leaving my job and wholesaling real estate for the last 6 months, I&#039;m broke. The market in which I am wholesaling absolutely sucks, and I&#039;ve not been able to make 1/10 of the money I should have by now. So I&#039;m forced to work for someone else again, and just the thought of it makes me angry as hell. <br /> <br /> Now this isn&#039;t a &quot;feel sorry for me&quot; thread; I need some advice on how to change my attitude. I absolutely love being in control of what I am doing, and I don&#039;t know how I am going to give up that control. <br /> <br /> My girlfriend wants me to get an IT job again and we&#039;ve had quite a few heated discussions about it because I absolutely hate IT. I have been applying for part time work and other fields that I&#039;m not really qualified for and what I&#039;m hearing is &quot;why the f... does someone with 20 years of IT experience want this job?!&quot;. So that has been a bust! <br /> <br /> I&#039;ve passed up a couple of IT jobs because I knew I&#039;d be wasting their time and mine. My girlfriend was so pissed, and I still hear about it every time we argue. I just could not drag myself to the final interviews, it felt like I was sentencing my self to death row. I know it may sound stupid, but it&#039;s how I truly feel. <br /> <br /> I don&#039;t know how I can seriously interview for a job I don&#039;t want. Even if I do by some miraculous circumstance get the job, I don&#039;t know how I&#039;d perform when I don&#039;t give a sh.. about the company or the work. <br /> <br /> I&#039;m starting to make a lot of excuses and that&#039;s not me. I work like hell on every business venture that I&#039;m a part of and I stay very motivated. I just don&#039;t know how to harness that emotion and dedication while working for someone else.<br /> <br /> Because I absolutely need a source of income and I&#039;m not ready mentally for employment yet, I&#039;ve been exploring other options like, flipping, picking, and wholesaling other items. I&#039;m still new and it might take some time, but I&#039;m hoping it allows me to keep working for myself.<br /> <br /> Anyway, any advice, criticism, or other harsh words are welcome. Maybe I need a wake up call? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You need to change your focus to being grateful.<br /> <br /> Be grateful for the opportunity you had to flip houses. The great people you met, houses you dealt with, and biz opportunity. Even though it didn&#039;t go your way, you took a shot, learned some valuable lessons.<br /> <br /> Be grateful you have the talent and opportunity to change directions and get a job that pays a living wage. Many people are under employed right now and would love a shot at what you have.<br /> <br /> Be grateful you could be considered an asset by an employer and that they would give you a shot at a job.<br /> <br /> Be grateful you have your health and you mental abilities to regroup and try again one day.<br /> <br /> Be grateful that, even though you have to step back, you can continue to add to your education and create new opportunities down the road.<br /> <br /> You have to look at what you have rather than what you don&#039;t have.<br /> <br /> You also need to make peace with your girlfriend. She sees the potential in you and wants the best for you. You need to ally with her rather than fight with her. She sounds like a fighter and a keeper.<br /> <br /> Good luck.</div>

 

[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Ungodly" data-source="post: 290753" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290753" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290753">Ungodly said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> focus on things with HUGE potential for scale. Nothing else. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Unfortunately I don&#039;t know what those things are. don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll ever know. I don&#039;t need a home run, I just want to be more in control of my direction. I get it though.</div>

 

[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290754" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290754" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290754">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You need to change your focus to being grateful. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> True.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290754" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290754" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290754">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Be grateful for the opportunity you had to flip houses. The great people you met, houses you dealt with, and biz opportunity. Even though it didn&#039;t go your way, you took a shot, learned some valuable lessons. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I am grateful for the opportunities I had, and still have. I haven&#039;t given up; I still have two houses under contract and more leads every day. <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290754" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290754" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290754">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Be grateful you have the talent and opportunity to change directions and get a job that pays a living wage. Many people are under employed right now and would love a shot at what you have. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Even though I have the talent, I have no desire to do IT work again. The field is saturated with freshers and the wages are a joke. I&#039;m not grateful to work 60-70 hours per week for half the pay I made 10 years ago. <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290754" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290754" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290754">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Be grateful you could be considered an asset by an employer and that they would give you a shot at a job. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I don&#039;t think I&#039;d be considered an asset because I don&#039;t give a shit. I know, it&#039;s the wrong way of thinking. :sigh:<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290754" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290754" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290754">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Be grateful you have your health and you mental abilities to regroup and try again one day. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Absolutely!<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290754" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290754" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290754">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Be grateful that, even though you have to step back, you can continue to add to your education and create new opportunities down the road. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I agree. I just hope I don&#039;t run out of time. <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290754" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290754" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290754">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You have to look at what you have rather than what you don&#039;t have. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Honestly, I have nothing right now, but point taken.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290754" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290754" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290754">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You also need to make peace with your girlfriend. She sees the potential in you and wants the best for you. You need to ally with her rather than fight with her. She sounds like a fighter and a keeper. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I think our relationship has grown stronger because of all the this. She definitely is a keeper!</div>

 

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[DeletedUser2]

<div class="bbWrapper">Call my witch doctor<br /> <br /> <br /> PM me for more<br /> <br /> Z</div>

 

[ChickenHawk]

<div class="bbWrapper">It wasn&#039;t clear in the original post, but if your girlfriend is financially supporting you in any way, she has a right to express her frustration. <br /> <br /> I know the fastlane mantra encourages dumping the day job, and I agree with that -- but only if you&#039;re paying your own way and have a project you&#039;re working on. If you&#039;re not sure what you&#039;re going to do next, a decent-paying job might be just the thing to ease some of the financial pressure and figure out where you go from here. <br /> <br /> Plus, there&#039;s nothing like a seriously sh*tty day in the office to inspire fastlane action on the side.</div>

 

[Talisman]

<div class="bbWrapper">It&#039;s a tough gig. <br /> <br /> Had our annual reviews in my 9-5 recently. My boss couldn&#039;t understand why I turn up when I&#039;m so unhappy, and why I don&#039;t go look for a job elsewhere where I&#039;d be happier (not a problem, with my skillset, also IT).<br /> <br /> How do you tell your boss &quot;Its not you, its me&quot;. I&#039;m unemployable, really, but due to &quot;lifestyle trappings and other commitments&quot;, I am where I am, and it is what it is. So I told him I&#039;d smile more. But really, whether Im happy or not is irrelevant, as long as my output is as required (which it is). It does feel like my time here is on a ticking-clock now, but I&#039;ll smile and tow the line as long as I must, to do what I need outside hours.<br /> <br /> So yeah as Runum said.. be grateful for what you can be - it could be worse, and try to think for the long term.<br /> <br /> Good luck.</div>

 

[DennisD]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 290751" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290751" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290751">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My girlfriend wants me to get an IT job again and we&#039;ve had quite a few heated discussions about it because I absolutely hate IT </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You&#039;ll grow to hate ANY job you pick up. Get a job doing IT.<br /> <br /> My current fastlane road took me to video. It&#039;s the one thing I didn&#039;t want to do when I first got started, but the one thing I was best at. When I started a business related to video, I felt like I was getting a job I was going to hate. (turns out I enjoy it now because I&#039;m GOOD, and work where I win and am the best at what I do is enjoyable to me).<br /> <br /> But the market doesn&#039;t care what you like.. they care about the value you provide. This is true for starting a business, or starting a job. Either way you should be doing what can provide the most value... Getting a job in something you have experience in/are good in is the best way to leverage your time. You (theoretically) should make more money for less work by choosing a field you&#039;re familiar with... leaving more time/money to your fastlane business.<br /> <br /> If you&#039;re considering getting a job you&#039;ll grow to hate anyways, might as well be something that leverages well and you know like the back of your hand.</div>

 

[Talisman]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="DennisDuty" data-source="post: 290804" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290804" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290804">DennisDuty said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You&#039;ll grow to hate ANY job you pick up. Get a job doing IT. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I think this is what I was trying to say, actually. Well said DD.</div>

 

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[PopEmersen]

<div class="bbWrapper">Mike,<br /> <br /> You are an entrepreneur, you have recognized this and your mind has too. This is why you feel how you feel. Be grateful that someone wants to employ you BUT remember this is just temporary and a means to an end. Any job you get you will grow to dislike, pretty fast too, BUT in order to fund your fastlane projects, you need capital. Use your 9-5 to do that. If IT pays you more, then so be it, BUT keep your eyes on the fastlane and use that capital to merge into it.</div>

 

[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="zend***phin" data-source="post: 290780" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290780" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290780">zend***phin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Call my witch doctor<br /> <br /> <br /> PM me for more<br /> <br /> Z </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> When all else fails.</div>

 

[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Talisman" data-source="post: 290801" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290801" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290801">Talisman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> How do you tell your boss &quot;Its not you, its me&quot;. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I did tell my last boss this and that&#039;s why they started looking for a replacement.<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Talisman" data-source="post: 290801" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290801" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290801">Talisman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> But really, whether Im happy or not is irrelevant, as long as my output is as required (which it is). </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> This is where I have a problem, because my output will suffer. I have a really hard time acting like I care and my performance suffers because of it. After 20+ years in IT I am burned out! I wish I could just turn it off, but I can&#039;t. <br /> <br /> I know I should have made changes a lot sooner and not let it get to this point, but I didn&#039;t and this is where I&#039;m at. So, what I&#039;m trying to figure out is, can I go back to something I absolutely hate? I&#039;d rather punch myself in the face for 8-10 hours a day! If only it paid. LOL<br /> <br /> Seriously though, if I&#039;m not a real asset to the company, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to waste their time. This is the point I&#039;ve been trying to convey to my girlfriend.</div>

 

[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="DennisDuty" data-source="post: 290804" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290804" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290804">DennisDuty said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> But the market doesn&#039;t care what you like.. they care about the value you provide. This is true for starting a business, or starting a job. Either way you should be doing what can provide the most value... Getting a job in something you have experience in/are good in is the best way to leverage your time. You (theoretically) should make more money for less work by choosing a field you&#039;re familiar with... leaving more time/money to your fastlane business. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Again, I don&#039;t believe I&#039;d be providing any value because I don&#039;t care. Is this truly the best option? I don&#039;t know ... More money for less work is definitely not the case with IT these days, but I understand what you&#039;re saying.<br /> <br /> I feel like I&#039;m just making excuses with every response now ...</div>

 

[Runum]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 290879" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290879" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290879">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Again, I don&#039;t believe I&#039;d be providing any value because I don&#039;t care. Is this truly the best option? I don&#039;t know ... More money for less work is definitely not the case with IT these days, but I understand what you&#039;re saying.<br /> <br /> I feel like I&#039;m just making excuses with every response now ... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yeah, you&#039;re just chasing your tail now.<br /> <br /> You are probably in your 40&#039;s by the sound of things. Life hasn&#039;t gone the way you want, I get it. To be honest, Ohio is a tough REI market anyway. You saw a TV program, read a book, took a seminar and bought into the flipping thing. Almost all the guys I know that went into REI flipping saw the big bucks and not the road work. They don&#039;t see that the markets change and they don&#039;t last very long. It&#039;s very normal.<br /> <br /> Now you are burned out and beat. You have a great pity party going on. It&#039;s your life, you are entitled. Not sure how long you are going to wallow in it though because it isn&#039;t helping anything.<br /> <br /> You seem to be blind to opportunities because of your attitude. One of the nicest, most resourceful guys I have met just offered to talk to you privately, and help you, and you blew him off(Z).<br /> <br /> Maybe you need to take a week and go work in a poor community or an underdeveloped nation and then see what you really have. You have many talents and resources that you are not seeing because of the pity party. You need to somehow wipe the tears and mud from your eyes, get the chip off your shoulder, and get over it if you really want to progress.<br /> <br /> Otherwise you are wasting the time of everyone by asking for advice and not moving forward.<br /> <br /> You have a lot to be proud of. You have a lot of talents and resources. Find them all, redirect them, do what you have to do.<br /> <br /> Shoot a PM to Z and see what he has to say. He is a very smart dude. You might be surprised.<br /> <br /> I do wish you well.</div>

 

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[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290888">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You are probably in your 40&#039;s by the sound of things. Life hasn&#039;t gone the way you want, I get it. To be honest, Ohio is a tough REI market anyway. You saw a TV program, read a book, took a seminar and bought into the flipping thing. Almost all the guys I know that went into REI flipping saw the big bucks and not the road work. They don&#039;t see that the markets change and they don&#039;t last very long. It&#039;s very normal. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yes, you are correct sir! I actually got started wholesaling after talking with someone on this very forum. I love wholesaling, but it&#039;s not paying off as well as it would in other markets. I&#039;ve busted my a$$ in the last 6 months to turn a lot of deals. It&#039;s just not sustainable.<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290888">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Now you are burned out and beat. You have a great pity party going on. It&#039;s your life, you are entitled. Not sure how long you are going to wallow in it though because it isn&#039;t helping anything. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> As I said from the beginning, I don&#039;t want a pity party and that&#039;s not why I&#039;m here. I just have a serious attitude problem that I don&#039;t know how to deal with it. I know I&#039;m the only one that can change it, I guess I was hoping for something else besides &quot;just do it and like it&quot;. <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290888">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You seem to be blind to opportunities because of your attitude. One of the nicest, most resourceful guys I have met just offered to talk to you privately, and help you, and you blew him off(Z). </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I absolutely thought he was joking. Having read just about everything he&#039;s posted in the past, I know he&#039;s a great guy and I thought he was just throwing me a jab. It was not my intention to blow him off.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290888">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Maybe you need to take a week and go work in a poor community or an underdeveloped nation and then see what you really have. You have many talents and resources that you are not seeing because of the pity party. You need to somehow wipe the tears and mud from your eyes, get the chip off your shoulder, and get over it if you really want to progress. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I realize that I do have a skill (talent?), but I have an issue with using it any longer. Not a pity party. A chip? Yes, I&#039;ll agree with that. <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290888">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Otherwise you are wasting the time of everyone by asking for advice and not moving forward. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Ok, let me ask this way then: If you did something all your life and you hated it (and I mean HATE in the true sense of the word). How do you motivate yourself to do it everyday not knowing if there&#039;s an out? How do you do it and not have it affect every aspect of your life? How do you do it and pretend that you like it? How do you do it and get along with co-workers that you can&#039;t stand? How do you meet with management every day and act like you truly care about their issues? How do you come home to your spouse and not take it out on them? <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290888">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You have a lot to be proud of. You have a lot of talents and resources. Find them all, redirect them, do what you have to do. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Thank you. I&#039;m constantly looking for opportunities and I&#039;m exploring as many areas as I can. I am diligently working to get into a sales job because I believe it has a lot more to offer. I know it&#039;s a tough field, but I&#039;m up for the challenge. <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290888">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Shoot a PM to Z and see what he has to say. He is a very smart dude. You might be surprised. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I will! <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Runum" data-source="post: 290888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290888">Runum said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I do wish you well. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Thank you for everything!</div>

 

[Harti]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 11534" data-quote="ChickenHawk" data-source="post: 290782" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=290782" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-290782">ChickenHawk said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Plus, there&#039;s nothing like a seriously sh*tty day in the office to inspire fastlane action on the side. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Was thinking about this the last days and totally agree. I think people underestimate the leverage a job can give you. Doing a repetitive and shitty thing that doesn&#039;t change anything in the world for months/years makes you aware of how your <b>life</b> gets sucked out of you. <br /> <br /> NEEDING to get out of that AND wanting to be rich is so much stronger than only the wish to be rich.<br /> <br /> Seeing this, a job can be quite nice: You sacrifice your time to get a big bunch of motivation and your bills paid. Additionally you have the opportunity to understand problems in the niche you are working in better, might be able to network and get life experiences (maybe you are lucky enough to work in sales?).<br /> <br /> The important thing here is that you don&#039;t forget that you are not a customer, but a producer. Consume the money you earn and you will be trapped in this lifestyle for the rest of your life instead of making it a part of your road to wealth.<br /> <br /> I know that some months ago when I was working and going to school at the same time I was using my time way better than now that I have no school and no job. Sad but true. Going to change that again.<br /> <br /> Harti</div>

 

[nausbot]

<div class="bbWrapper">Just a thought, can you turn any IT opportunities presented into a partial company ownership opportunity? Get involved in a start up and &quot;buy in&quot; with your 20 years of knowledge? <br /> <br /> *I really don&#039;t know IT so I&#039;m not sure what&#039;s available these days, but I don&#039;t see any problem in owning stock, especially if there&#039;s a buyout*</div>

 

[Andy Black]

<div class="bbWrapper">Can you pick up an IT contract instead of being an employee?<br /> <br /> I know exactly how you feel. I&#039;ve picked up a 2 day a week Oracle DBA contract to tide me over while I regroup, and it&#039;s a shock heading back into someone else&#039;s office, having to wear a suit and tie no less.<br /> <br /> But being a contractor allows me to rise above the politics and griping, and focus on putting revenue back into my business.<br /> <br /> If you can&#039;t contract, then can you pick up other skills that can help you as an entrepreneur? When you say IT, is it development or support? Are you front-end GUI UX stuff, or backend infrastructure? <br /> <br /> Is there a marketing department you can help or work with? Is there marketing data you can help slice and dice?<br /> <br /> How can you help people who are doing things that could help you when you launch again? I doubt they would turn down a bit of IT help.<br /> <br /> In my experience, when you take IT, and then ADD something else on top, then you can kick some serious butt.<br /> <br /> Make your 20 years of experience your unfair advantage when you enter the fray again, don&#039;t throw it away completely!<br /> <br /> Feel free to PM me too.<br /> <br /> Andy</div>

 

[RogueInnovation]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 24368" data-quote="Harti" data-source="post: 384625" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384625" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384625">Harti said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Doing a repetitive and shitty thing that doesn&#039;t change anything in the world for months/years makes you aware of how your life gets sucked out of you. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You are however empowering something to exist that can be used outside work hours by many people.<br /> <br /> In some cases that is less fulfilling than others.</div>

 

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[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper">Ah shit, who resurrected this thread? I haven&#039;t had a job in over a year now and I&#039;m still struggling from day to day, but I don&#039;t miss the slavery! I hate I.T. work ... let me repeat I <b>HATE </b>I.T., and I will never do it again no matter what it pays. <br /> <br /> I have had few interviews for a some shit jobs lately, and they have turned out to be more of a bullshit session than a job interview. Just walking into a factory or office for an interview gives me a lot of anxiety and feeling of being trapped. So I end up telling myself that I really don&#039;t want the job and I can walk any time I feel like it. <br /> <br /> It&#039;s funny how interviews go when you really don&#039;t want the job ... <br /> <br /> For those of you thinking I shouldn&#039;t be wasting these peoples time, I&#039;ll say this; most of the people I&#039;ve talked to find it refreshing to converse with someone that isn&#039;t an idiot or all uptight about the interview. I&#039;ve actually had some long conversations about IT, real estate, and a few other subjects. <br /> <br /> Maybe one will turn into something good ... who knows.</div>

 

[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23590" data-quote="Andy Black" data-source="post: 384711" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384711" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384711">Andy Black said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> When you say IT, is it development or support? Are you front-end GUI UX stuff, or backend infrastructure? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Mostly support, systems/network admin, database/storage admin, and systems analyst.</div>

 

[Andy Black]

<div class="bbWrapper">Lol! I didn&#039;t even see the date of the OP. I just saw a &quot;new&quot; post pop up. Sorry man.<br /> <br /> I can see why you hate IT if you had to do 20 years of all that sys admin. I was (am?) Production Support, similarly dull yet stressful. I only kept sane by writing shell scripts to automate myself out of a job. I was a bit too good at it... always making myself redundant. Useful skill that I must use more.<br /> <br /> Anyhow, still happy to have a chat. Lol.</div>

 

[LibertyForMe]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 8167" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 384932" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384932" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384932">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have had few interviews for a some shit jobs lately, and they have turned out to be more of a bullshit session than a job interview. Just walking into a factory or office for an interview gives me a lot of anxiety and feeling of being trapped. So I end up telling myself that I really don&#039;t want the job and I can walk any time I feel like it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> With an attitude like this, no one will hire you.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 8167" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 384932" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384932" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384932">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I hate I.T. work ... let me repeat I HATE I.T., and I will never do it again no matter what it pays. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Ok, so don&#039;t do IT then.<br /> <br /> Get a job as an analyst or something. There are lots of analyst positions available that aren&#039;t IT or BA related. I don&#039;t know what your salary requirements are, but you can probably make like 50-60k/yr in some various analyst positions even though you only have experience in IT.<br /> <br /> Pick a field that will teach you skills that will help your fastlane in the future. Get a sales job, or a job with a media company doing PPC. Sure, they might pay you crap since you don&#039;t have experience, but YOU ARE GETTING PAID TO LEARN.<br /> <br /> Getting a job isn&#039;t hard, but it is hard if you have a crappy attitude. So you failed. Did you learn something? You did? Well it wasn&#039;t a complete failure then. <br /> <br /> Just go the extra mile, and you&#039;ll get a job no problem. Make your resume really good. Call the employer after you submit it and ask to talk to HR. Talk to them a bit and position yourself well. Follow up email them the next day thanking them for their time. Ask good questions. Show them you want it. If you do those things, you can get a good job learning a valuable skill.</div>

 

[pickeringmt]

<div class="bbWrapper">I don&#039;t know if this is an oversimplification, but if people are coming to <b>you</b> with IT opportunities, why wouldn&#039;t you just start your own business? The need is obviously there.<br /> <br /> Just put the work in yourself to get it stable, and then start hiring guys to do the work. You could be strictly sales and management pretty quickly. Scale it out over a few years and then sell it off to another company.<br /> <br /> A company I worked for hired out an IT company to manage our network. That company sold off for millions to another company here in town a couple months ago. <br /> <br /> That is about as fastlane as it gets.</div>

 

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[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 14194" data-quote="LibertyForMe" data-source="post: 384967" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384967" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384967">LibertyForMe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> With an attitude like this, no one will hire you. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The thing is, I don&#039;t care. I&#039;d rather do odd jobs and barely get by for a while then be stuck in a factory for 10 hours per day 6 days a week. <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 14194" data-quote="LibertyForMe" data-source="post: 384967" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384967" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384967">LibertyForMe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ok, so don&#039;t do IT then. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Don&#039;t plan to! I&#039;ve been exploring many other options. This thread was posted over a year ago and things have changed. <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 14194" data-quote="LibertyForMe" data-source="post: 384967" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384967" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384967">LibertyForMe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Just go the extra mile, and you&#039;ll get a job no problem. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> If I go the extra mile it will be for myself and <b>my</b> company, not for a job.</div>

 

[LibertyForMe]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 8167" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 385084" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=385084" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-385084">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The thing is, I don&#039;t care. I&#039;d rather do odd jobs and barely get by for a while then be stuck in a factory for 10 hours per day 6 days a week. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Ok then, suit yourself. You seem determined not to learn anything. BTW, lots of jobs are only 40 hours a week 5 days a week with 3 weeks of PTO a year and benefits... just saying.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 8167" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 385084" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=385084" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-385084">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If I go the extra mile it will be for myself and my company, not for a job. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I meant to get a job, to make yourself stand above the crowd. But whatever. Hope you have fun doing crappy manual labor and flipping for yourself when you could be making good money in a nice office environment with happy coworkers where you go home at 5pm and you learn a skill that helps your fastlane plan. Ohh wait...you don&#039;t want that.</div>

 

[Mike.B]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 14194" data-quote="LibertyForMe" data-source="post: 385095" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=385095" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-385095">LibertyForMe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> you could be making good money in a nice office environment with happy coworkers where you go home at 5pm and you learn a skill that helps your fastlane plan. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Let me know where this perfect job is, because in 20+ years I&#039;ve never seen it. Oh wait ... it doesn&#039;t exist!</div>

 

[RoadTrip]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 8167" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 384932" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384932" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384932">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have had few interviews for a some shit jobs lately, and they have turned out to be more of a bullshit session than a job interview. Just walking into a factory or office for an interview gives me a lot of anxiety and feeling of being trapped. So I end up telling myself that I really don&#039;t want the job and I can walk any time I feel like it.<br /> It&#039;s funny how interviews go when you really don&#039;t want the job ...<br /> For those of you thinking I shouldn&#039;t be wasting these peoples time, I&#039;ll say this; most of the people I&#039;ve talked to find it refreshing to converse with someone that isn&#039;t an idiot or all uptight about the interview. I&#039;ve actually had some long conversations about IT, real estate, and a few other subjects. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 8167" data-quote="Mike.B" data-source="post: 384932" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=384932" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-384932">Mike.B said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> For those of you thinking I shouldn&#039;t be wasting these peoples time, I&#039;ll say this; most of the people I&#039;ve talked to find it refreshing to converse with someone that isn&#039;t an idiot or all uptight about the interview. I&#039;ve actually had some long conversations about IT, real estate, and a few other subjects. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Since you are already inside their facilities probably talking to one of the more important guys, why not ask them what their pain points in their business are? Do some idea extraction on them and get a fastlane need from them you can solve.</div>