What GURUs are really selling you...

Roli · Mar 21, 2023

No one user programmed me, I'm worth millions of their man years!

heavy_industry · Mar 21, 2023

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Kevin88660 · Mar 21, 2023

"Seek Truth from Facts." -Deng Xiaoping
"Business competition boils down to who understands the industry more."- Zhang Yiming
"You should be sweating a little bit. If you're not, you're not doing it right."- Travis Kalanick
"Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition, there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes."- George Soros

Kevin88660 · Mar 21, 2023

"Seek Truth from Facts." -Deng Xiaoping
"Business competition boils down to who understands the industry more."- Zhang Yiming
"You should be sweating a little bit. If you're not, you're not doing it right."- Travis Kalanick
"Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition, there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes."- George Soros

N.S. · Mar 21, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 4862" data-quote="Kak" data-source="post: 1053341" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1053341" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1053341">Kak said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I wish the truth made bank, but it doesn’t. My radio show has made approx negative $1500 in the last 12 months. <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><br /> <br /> Me- “Hey, try hard and work your a$$ off to build something scalable, I believe in you.”<br /> <br /> The world- “where is that dropshipping course, maybe I should be a copywriter.”<br /> <br /> Me- “I’m just going to record a show whenever I feel like it now.” </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 55234" data-quote="Antifragile" data-source="post: 1053360" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1053360" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1053360">Antifragile said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don't listen to any other podcast. Just your radio show. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/4862/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="4862" data-username="@Kak">@Kak</a> I just followed your show on Apple based on this and <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/55234/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="55234" data-username="@Antifragile">@Antifragile</a> 's message. I'm seeking the truth and things that will actually help me, not short term dopamine. Looking forward to giving it a listen. Thanks.</div>

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Kevin88660 · Mar 21, 2023

"Seek Truth from Facts." -Deng Xiaoping
"Business competition boils down to who understands the industry more."- Zhang Yiming
"You should be sweating a little bit. If you're not, you're not doing it right."- Travis Kalanick
"Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition, there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes."- George Soros

Nick Catricala · Mar 21, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1053167" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1053167" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1053167">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> TLDR; Gurus sell easy hustles like dropshipping that are trash opportunities selling trashy imported goods from China.<br /> <br /> Meanwhile, if you sell those shitty courses to 1,000,000 fools who buy the BS, you make bank.<br /> <br /> Nothing has changed in 40 years.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="396345" data-url="https://www.vox.com/culture/23640192/sebastian-ghiorghiu-youtube-hustle-gurus-passive-income-dropshipping" data-host="www.vox.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fplatform.vox.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F2%2Fchorus%2Fuploads%2Fchorus_asset%2Ffile%2F24507702%2FScreen_Shot_2023_03_14_at_3.52.01_PM.png%3Fquality%3D90%26strip%3Dall%26crop%3D0%252C7.8931185569212%252C100%252C84.213762886158%26w%3D1200&hash=abf984c728076a688140335721ef247e&return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.vox.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/23640192/sebastian-ghiorghiu-youtube-hustle-gurus-passive-income-dropshipping" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> YouTube millionaires are not your friends </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">YouTube and TikTok are plagued with 20-something “passive income” bros who want your attention — and your money.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2Fstatic-assets%2Ficons%2Ffavicon-32x32.png&hash=aa5c4775953b396641da96815c1a9969&return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.vox.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.vox.com </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Thanks, MJ, after many many thousands of hours and dollars lost, I finally come to the same conclusion.. a little late, but I feel soo much better knowing that I know and I am no more in a weaker state to accept what they are selling.. thanks to you and other Fastlane members, I finally woke up.. THANKS a lot once again</div>

SeeYouAtTheTop · Mar 21, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50816" data-quote="Xeon" data-source="post: 1053187" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1053187" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1053187">Xeon said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Many of these youtube gurus, especially the ones in their late teens to early/mid 20s, look very douchey.<br /> <br /> Also good to see Alex Hormonzi on that guru list in the article. Always knew something was off with him. If one smells like a guru or talks like a guru, he IS a guru.<br /> <br /> <br /> "<i>Like their younger counterparts, these men often espouse <b><u>deep mistrust of higher education and government</u></b>, encouraging followers to devote their time and money to learn how to market themselves and their entrepreneurial ventures.</i>"<br /> <br /> So basically most of this forum lol </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Have to disagree here. <br /> <br /> I've had the chance to work with Hormozi and can say he's actually really helpful. The guy is hardcore intense and quirky, but most wealthy people I know are like this.</div>

Kevin88660 · Mar 21, 2023

"Seek Truth from Facts." -Deng Xiaoping
"Business competition boils down to who understands the industry more."- Zhang Yiming
"You should be sweating a little bit. If you're not, you're not doing it right."- Travis Kalanick
"Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition, there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes."- George Soros

Saad Khan · Mar 21, 2023

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Kak · Mar 21, 2023

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Vigilante · Mar 21, 2023

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WillHurtDontCare · Mar 21, 2023

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DCG · Mar 21, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">One general rule that I see if they are "gurus" is whether they say the hustle they are promoting is easy, because that means everyone will do it and you probably won't make much if any money. It is possible to get rich quick but it's never easy</div>

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DCG · Mar 21, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 47734" data-quote="Black_Dragon43" data-source="post: 1053617" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1053617" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1053617">Black_Dragon43 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Two of my best friends are professional directors who work with influencers. Do you have any idea how expensive doing this is? It would cost you at least $30-40K to execute well… maybe more.<br /> <br /> The truth is the most of the gurus do have money. Maybe they don’t have millions from say dropshipping or bitcoin or whatever. But they still made solid money, >$300K/year profits. And the retards who buy their courses (not an insult, since everyone is a retard when they first do something, including I), would LOVE to make even that >$300K/yr.<br /> <br /> <br /> Or maybe it’s because people are sick and tired of “get a job” or “slave away to get an education”. They want to make money, and they want to make money today.<br /> <br /> The bottom line is that any path is hard. It will be hard to become a world class brain surgeon who makes $300K+/yr. And it will be hard to become a world class copywriter who makes $300K/yr or start an ecom biz that brings you $300K/yr.<br /> <br /> And in ALL those cases, 99% of people who try will fail, because they’re stupid and lazy.<br /> <br /> The difference is that it takes 10+ years to become a brain surgeon, while you could be a world class copywriter in 2 years by locking yourself in your house and not going out or meeting your friends for those 2 years. And at the end of that time period be making $300K/yr.<br /> <br /> And the reason it takes 10+ years to become a brain surgeon is because you have to slave away under grandpas who barely know what they’re doing, but they got there before you, and they’ll make sure you’re not going to compete with them anytime soon, regardless of how good you are.<br /> <br /> Most of the traditional industries and businesses are the same. Old farts hold all the power and they won’t let you get rich and take their money away. Associations, laws, etc. Lots of ways to do it.<br /> <br /> As I said, most people ain’t gonna do it. Because they’re lazy, stupid and like sheep. If you’re lazy, stupid and like sheep, following a “traditional” path is a safer bet for ya. The odds, as <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/55234/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="55234" data-username="@Antifragile">@Antifragile</a> would say, are better.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/40063/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="40063" data-username="@eTox">@eTox</a> bought one of my ecom courses, took the knowledge, found great products, and broke $1.5M+ in sales last year by dropshipping. The money is there. Another buddy of mine took the course, and crushed $1M+ in sales, 20% profit margin, sold the biz to a retard for $300K. All in 1 year! For most people here having $500K cash in the bank would be beyond their wildest dreams…<br /> <br /> You can make money fast. But you gotta stop listening to people who tell you to think big, when thinking big for them means getting anjob or investing in your education for years. That’s not thinking big. That is having a slave’s mind, and playing the (safe) odds. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Gurus are kind of like the fake natties of the financial world</div>

ZackerySprague · Mar 21, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 103517" data-quote="Pat Cush" data-source="post: 1053362" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1053362" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1053362">Pat Cush said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <b>IMO </b>there's nothing wrong with paying for courses.<br /> <br /> The problem is when you are paying for the transformation that the guru is promising...<br /> <br /> And thinking that it's EASY to get there.<br /> <br /> If you are just paying to learn a skill or get coaching from someone that is legit, then courses/coaching can be such a high ROI thing. You just need to have a high enough BS meter to determine if the person has good intentions.<br /> <br /> And enough life experience to know that it takes a lot of persistence to get to the results the top students get.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/33771/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="33771" data-username="@Fox">@Fox</a> is a great example. Sells a really solid course that is super worth it IMO. I have got a lot from it.<br /> <br /> But if you go into it expecting that it is easy to make a lot of money, you are dumb.<br /> <br /> I mean - for christs sake, people spend <i>$997</i> on a course and expect to make $10k a month, without a shit tonne of effort.<br /> <br /> Yet people spend <b>10's of thousands</b> on a degree, <b>years of their life</b>, and know they aren't guaranteed a lot of $$$.<br /> <br /> lol. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I didn't mean to come across as very biased. From past experience, I just became very skeptical about courses. I had a bad experience from a guy called Jaime Higuera.<br /> <br /> He has a YouTube channel where he promotes how to create an "Ecommerce Agency", but truth be told he wasn't actually running a legitmate Ecommerce Agency one's you can find now days like AdKings.<br /> <br /> I hired a Web Designer, who's a really cool dude and friend of mine that I don't speak much to at the time when I purchased a course from Jaime. The Web Designer stated that he was still in the process of re-vamping his website (Jaime's in this case). I became skeptical when you saw him post his earnings. It was very sproadic, but it wasn't until students of his actually came to me asking how much they paid him to get into the course.<br /> <br /> I guess their's marketing techniques out there where you could try to see if a person would spend an entire paycheck (In which case I did) just to get into their program. I paid $2,500, other students reported giving him more or less.<br /> <br /> All the techniques were the same, but no practical examples. But eventually the community started to take notice of what he was doing (selling courses and not actually having a real ecommerce agency in this case) and even some teachers that worked with him in the past such as Tal didn't like his behavior and left. It was very detailed and well-thought out. I guess the main concern for community was just the sheer fact for the amount they were spending and how it wasn't consistent. This was the feedback I received during that time.<br /> <br /> But I don't let this experience stop me from buy courses. I now just don't spend more give or take $500 on a course now. I just make sure they are actively or have practiced what they teach otherwise, I move on or no longer learn from their course.<br /> <br /> I'm just a believer of giving out free value. I wouldn't want someone to pay me for what I know, I'd rather give it out for free. Give them advice on something that maybe I can help them out with, thus creating better relationships with people.<br /> <br /> One good example of this was helping my friend go from being a Costco Baker to his very first ever Remote IT Help Desk job. He took my advice and went with it and boy am I so proud of him haha jumped for joy when he told me he got the job. Practically screamed into the phone. Tried to get him to learn TMF, but he wasn't interested. Not that I am and advocate for jobs, he wanted to learn how I got currently one, so I just old him what I knew.<br /> <br /> I don't want to feel responsible for a student's failure to achieve a desired result if they paid for a course in the thousands to me, instead I'd probably just make a really long YouTube video and give the information out for free would be the best value I could create for an audience or market segment.</div>

BizyDad · Mar 21, 2023

The journey so far...

Started a banker turned salesperson turned freelancer turned agency turned e-commerce store owner and soon software.

It's all part of this hub strategy I'm developing. And I'm not done yet. Did I mention I'm also building digital assets and met MJ back before his book was a hit?

Guest-5ty5s4 · Mar 21, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 72777" data-quote="BizyDad" data-source="post: 1053649" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1053649" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1053649">BizyDad said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Yeah. I mean...<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="Cv1RJTHf5fk"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Cv1RJTHf5fk?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://youtu.be/Cv1RJTHf5fk" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">View: https://youtu.be/Cv1RJTHf5fk</a></span></i><br /> <br /> <br /> Isn't that kinda this whole script? <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Really? I mean law of averages. Y'all don't know <i><b>anybody</b></i> that went to a Rich Dad course? A Tony Robbins course?<br /> <br /> I know at least three people that are worth well into eight figures that did at least one course back in the day. In their early twenties. When they were still trying to figure things out.<br /> <br /> Does someone like <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/46350/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="46350" data-username="@GuitarManDan">@GuitarManDan</a> count cause he went through <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/33771/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="33771" data-username="@Fox">@Fox</a> 's school. Okay, he might not be rich *yet*, but he's on his way. Please don't tell me Fox ain't a guru.<br /> <br /> I'll put it like this. I asked the first guy I ever knew that legit spent a lot of money on courses and then ultimately went on to "make it" if it was worth it. He told me...<br /> <br /> "Bro, 10k courses or big dollar masterminds are like anything else in life. You are going to get out of it what you put into it.<br /> <br /> Most people don't put in the work, so it doesn't matter if they're buying a big dollar course, or borrowing a book from the library. Winners are going to win. Losers are going to lose."<br /> <br /> Edit: Here's some marketing help <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/4862/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="4862" data-username="@Kak">@Kak</a><br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/47807/" target="_blank">View attachment 47807</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I agree that winners are going to win no matter the course or content they consume. That’s why I think they should keep their money and put it towards their business or investments rather than an overpriced, POS course or seminar <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /> or get one that’s a good value. <br /> <br /> Some of those courses are absolutely ludicrously expensive. I mean eye wateringly overpriced. The sellers have to be in the back rooms making fun of the buyers. I would not be able to stomach it.</div>

Kak · Mar 21, 2023

None of your problems are because someone else is a billionaire.

BizyDad · Mar 21, 2023

The journey so far...

Started a banker turned salesperson turned freelancer turned agency turned e-commerce store owner and soon software.

It's all part of this hub strategy I'm developing. And I'm not done yet. Did I mention I'm also building digital assets and met MJ back before his book was a hit?

Xeon · Mar 22, 2023

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Fox · Mar 22, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/screenshot-2023-03-22-at-05-58-13-webp.47808/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/44/44424-5d21f40ae0bded02adf1bf1bf74a8534.jpg?hash=0q481wI1Xi" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Screenshot 2023-03-22 at 05.58.13.png" title="Screenshot 2023-03-22 at 05.58.13.png" width="200" height="235" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> ------<br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/screenshot-2023-03-22-at-06-24-33-webp.47809/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/44/44425-4f92fe711365bebbdf412bc5036310d7.jpg?hash=ZMcmFXRWr1" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Screenshot 2023-03-22 at 06.24.33.png" title="Screenshot 2023-03-22 at 06.24.33.png" width="736" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> -----<br /> <br /> <i>Damn Buffet got scammed with that $1k speaking course.<br /> <br /> Poor fella has been thinking for 60+ years that the skills you can pick up from a course can be useful.</i><br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> In all seriousness, courses are just another form of information.<br /> <br /> If you have a problem with courses, but not books, podcasts, forum posts etc - then that doesn't add up.<br /> Either information is valuable or it isn't. Going after the medium makes no sense.<br /> <br /> Plus the video course format is the best approach for some topics. Good luck trying to learn any of the following from a book: video editing, new design tools, audio skills, social media platforms that change by the day, sales tonality.<br /> <br /> When done right a video course can <b><i>show + tell</i></b> = a lot more effective for teaching.<br /> <br /> Here is a good take on courses from Alex Hormozi...<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="kULFeI3LRYk"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/kULFeI3LRYk?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div><br /> He puts courses right where they should be - valuable, but not some life saving purchase that does all the work for you.<br /> <br /> To put this in action, I have applied for a $4,000 course (well cohort) from Paddy Galloway.<br /> <br /> Who is that? The #1 Youtube strategist guy who has worked with Mr Beast, RedBull and many top creators.<br /> <br /> He has been a big part of them getting millions of views a day on organic content.<br /> <br /> So... is this a scam or a waste of money? Obviously not, but it wouldn't be worth it for many people to take this.<br /> They just aren't going to get a ROI and they would have been better off just applying some free content first.<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> If people can't see that <b><i>yes some courses are bad</i></b>, but also <b><i>some other courses can be good</i></b> - then that is only on them. It would take a very strong bias to ignore 1000s of solid course creators making valuable affordable content.<br /> <br /> And the same logic applies to all the "guru" products... let's say a mastermind.<br /> <br /> <i>Would a 20k a year country club membership be a scam? </i><br /> No, for a lot of people it makes sense.<br /> <br /> Then apply that same same logic to an online (or in person) mastermind for entrepreneurs.<br /> Or are people only allowed to network and make connections if they are playing golf?<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Once again... the problem is shady people, not courses.<br /> <br /> Scam artists also exist in property, finance, health, e-commerce, shipping, politics and every other industry out there.<br /> <br /> But I will admit courses and masterminds etc do attract quite a few of them ha.<br /> <br /> Anyway it not like this topic hasn't been covered before and the same points made.</div>

Fox · Mar 22, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">And just to throw this in here, to show life on the other side of the fence...<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/screenshot-2023-03-22-at-05-47-11-webp.47811/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/44/44427-e3f86997e1fa0977a589c3170dcb9ef1.jpg?hash=MI1zHxH4y-" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Screenshot 2023-03-22 at 05.47.11.webp" title="Screenshot 2023-03-22 at 05.47.11.webp" width="200" height="287" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> <br /> This is day in and day out of running a legit course.<br /> <br /> - You give people who aren't ready yet lots of free advice.<br /> - You tell people who are not suitable that they don't need this course (like above).<br /> - And you look for the few right people who you can actually help.<br /> <br /> But then, once the right people join, they do actually have to show up and do some work.<br /> These are just skills, which only work if people use them and stick with them long enough to get results.<br /> <br /> And it is actually a pretty fun business and when you run it right, it's cool to help a lot of people in some small way.</div>

Andy Black · Mar 22, 2023

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