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and he promptly left.

And he will never return.


Why?

He visited the forum at an unfortunate time.

On the front page, he was greeted with shit threads like this:

Sex, Drugs, and Hookers? Where Do I Find Them?
From $0 to $1 Billion in One Month! Help me pick a Wordpress Template.

Does Anyone Here Own a Business?
Few of us will ever get rich...
How many people here own Lambos?
What percentage of people here are millionaires?
Why can't my dropshipping website which sells cheap imported China junk make any sales?
Is trading Forex Fastlane?



If you have been linked to this thread, your thread topic was moved to the LANDFILL -- the LANDFILL is a forum cesspool for poor quality threads-- threads that add no value, little value, I'm getting laid/slaying chicks, entrepreneurial masturbation (what color should my Ferrari be?), income declarations with zero foundation, zero revenue, zero products, or, they show your unwillingness (or laziness) to do simple due diligence: A) a quick forum search or B) a simple google search.

The reference the moderators and I use to determine which threads are moved to the LANDFILL is this:

If a rockstar entrepreneur visited our forum, either male or female, and they read this particular thread, would they be inclined to stay at the forum? Contribute their good sense? Or would they say "WTF?" and leave?

If the answer is the latter, we move the thread to the LANDFILL.

The Landfill (Low Value)

If you feel a thread is poor quality, adds nothing, and is simply cluttering the front page and making the forum look like amateur hour, TAG A MODERATOR and add [HASHTAG]#Landfill[/HASHTAG]. We will take a peek and make an evaluation for a move, or better, a full-scale delete.

Thank you
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Folks, it was a parable.
 

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i can't realy understand why asking people to show their success is a problem.

First of all, anything can be faked. There was a member here some time ago that showed 'proof' of his million dollar bank statement. Another member had his Ferrari as an avatar and he wasn't everything he was made out to be.

No matter what anyone shows, you should always be skeptical. Always.

Second of all, it provides no value to show what you have. If they have it, you don't know how they got it. They could be scammers, or thieves, or fraudsters. And, if they're posting about what they have but aren't sharing what they've learned through their process... how does that help you?

I've met some of these guys in real life and I vouch for them, but I have no idea what's in their bank accounts. I do, however, know what kind of lives they live and it's assuredly Fastlane. Some of these guys I didn't know about their success from the forum.

People can talk all they want on here but until you know them, you won't know if they're actually living the life.

(By the way, you don't need a huge income to live the life. The life is actually pretty inexpensive, unless you want yachts and million-dollar vacation homes and things of that nature. Plus, the Fastlane is a mindset anyway; it's not an arbitrary money definition)

Third, posting what you have places a giant target on your back. It's a dumb move. Some guys here grossly underplay their success and it's for good reason.
 
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i can't realy understand why asking people to show their success is a problem.

people here show topic like that :

https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/tim-sykes-5-000-000-miami-mansion.51406/

explain where is the value ?

and when we ask readers the same thing, the thread is deleted. from a logical point of view, it does not make sense.


1. It wasn't deleted. Just moved to TheLandfill where it belongs.
2. It was a veiled attempt to prove some of the asinine posts you litter our forum with.
3. The legit wealthy here would never respond to your thread with photos proving their wealth.
4. Some of the legit wealthy here don't have mansions and exotic cars.
5. If you spent less time posting and more time reading the Gold threads you'd have a much better understanding of who's who around here.
 

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Damn guys! It's like some of you didn't even read, digest, and comprehend the original post. You just post crap to get your post count up or just to be heard when no point needs to be made.

I work with 10 -12 year old kids all day that do this level of banter. I would expect a higher level of conversation to take place on a forum such as this. Honestly, it's embarrassing sometimes.

I believe that MJ founded this forum because of the noise, MLM's, sales pitches, and bickering going on over at the RD forums. The signal to noise level ratio used to be pretty low here. I spent many days and nights working with many forum members myself. Now days, not so much. Too many people speaking and not learning and applying.

My hope is that lessons need to be learned in maturity and discernment as to what needs to be posted and what is just noise.

Good luck to all.
 

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Yet it added so much color to the tern "create value, don't be after money, and worship MJ" you are chanting during your march.

Nobody's worshipping MJ, we just have mad respect for the man who changed most of our lives. And not just MJ, but all the other great people on here like ICK, Vig, Bio, Kak, Andy, AllenCrawley, etc.

Search for their threads and you won't find one nonsense one like your last ones.
 

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This is truthfully starting to become more of an issue.People are just spamming crap to get their post count up.

Post count means nothing here insofar as no one can post "I agree" 100X and get a signature.

We delete stuff when that happens.

We ban self-promoters which unfortunately tends to be some entrepreneurs, but they aren't here to contribute -- they're here to take.
 

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i can't realy understand why asking people to show their success is a problem.

People who wildly flaunt their success on social media usually are doing it to grease young impressionable minds-- it's a part of their business model so they can sell seminars, coaching programs, and memberships.

Anyone can finance a Lamborghini for like $1,200/mo -- certainly not a staggering level of income. My guess is half of these folks are legit, the other half are posers.
 
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If you haven't noticed, we are on the Internet....and he could be reading this RIGHT NOW:jawdrop:


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i can't realy understand why asking people to show their success is a problem.

people here show topic like that :

https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/tim-sykes-5-000-000-miami-mansion.51406/

explain where is the value ?

and when we ask readers the same thing, the thread is deleted. from a logical point of view, it does not make sense.

The big hitters on the forum don't need to show it, you can tell they already have it by the way they talk and the advice they give.

It's absolutely rude to ask someone giving great advice to "show their paycheck" as people perceive the question as "oh he doesn't care for the advice, he only wants to see numbers".Or they assume you think their advice is useless without showing proof of a paycheck.

The ones who openly flaunt or talk about paychecks are the ones you should look out for, I should know.
 

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Damn guys! It's like some of you didn't even read, digest, and comprehend the original post. You just post crap to get your post count up or just to be heard when no point needs to be made.

I work with 10 -12 year old kids all day that do this level of banter. i would expect a higher level of conversation to take place on a forum such as this. Honestly, it's embarrassing sometimes.

I believe that MJ founded this forum because of the noise, MLM's, sales pitches, and bickering going on over at the RD forums. The signal to noise level ratio used to be pretty low here. I spent many days and nights working with many forum members myself. Now days, not so much. Too many people speaking and not learning and applying.

My hope is that lessons need to be learned in maturity and discernment as to what needs to be posted and what is just noise.

Good luck to all.


Agreed. There are a few posters here now that I frankly ignore because they just vomit out posts that have no relevance to the thread or any actual value.
 
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Oldie, but goodie. And still relevant.
 

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Post count means nothing here insofar as no one can post "I agree" 100X and get a signature.

We delete stuff when that happens.

We ban self-promoters which unfortunately tends to be some entrepreneurs, but they aren't here to contribute -- they're here to take.
I agree MJ and the mods do an over the top job of keeping the spam and self promoters down. I've done it and it's a tough job.

I probably should have been a little more specific about the posts I am referring to. It seems lately I have seen several pissing contests that were pointless.

Disagreeing and making counterpoint is one thing.

Posting to get the last word and proving who is alpha boss is petty, noise, and a waste of everyone's time. Those posts are a mods nightmare.

Need to ask ourselves...will this post just prove my point or will it help someone?
 

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Should the Tim Sykes thread be there? Probably not, but I guess it's amusing. But this forum is ft peacocking.

This isn't MTV cribs.

Your thread had two interpretations.

  • Being passive aggressive and asking people to prove that they're wealthy to validate their advice. You're pretty much saying "I don't believe any of you are worth crap, so I'll have people post their mansions to see who actually did win at business"
  • You are assuming this forum is about being a peacock. Strutting around and showing off all your cool stuff.
 
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@Andy Black please un-ban Elon Musk.

He promised to resume the deleted thread "Landing on Mars 2025 - Progress thread".

Will also post in the right category.
 
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I agree MJ and the mods do an over the top job of keeping the spam and self promoters down. I've done it and it's a tough job.

I probably should have been a little more specific about the posts I am referring to. It seems lately I have seen several pissing contests that were pointless.

Disagreeing and making counterpoint is one thing.

Posting to get the last word and proving who is alpha boss is petty, noise, and a waste of everyone's time. Those posts are a mods nightmare.

Need to ask ourselves...will this post just prove my point or will it help someone?
I agree.






(Sorry, I just couldn't resist!)
 

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Such a pity and not something I was expecting to hear.

Elon is a man I'd love to have learned some advice from and would have made an excellent contributor to the forum along with the reputation. Very unfortunate to hear this mate.

I can definitely agree about this forum having a lot of crap on it lately in terms of postings... And to the people out there for future references; No one gives a F*ck about you getting poon on the weekend, no one cares about your dating life and certainly no one gives a shit about what color you want your future liability to be.

This is a forum for failures, successes and action along with some great stories to tell along the way.. It's here to build each other up and support each other.. But damn, some personal shit just needs to stay off the forum. I hope I'm not sounding like an a**hole here and if so, I am sorry for coming across so blunt, but personally it really does disappoint me to hear this.

Lets just do better in the future, and ask ourselves before posting; "Does this really belong here on the forum?".


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