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An "Attracting Women" Video Course

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Over the years, people here have voiced concern that there aren't enough women entrepreneurs here.

Do you know why? It's because of thread titles like yours, "Getting women."

As such, I've changed your thread title from "getting women" to "attracting women."

"Getting women" implies women are objects to be collected and placed in a trophy case. The women here are tough cookies and I don't even know if that phrase would irk them, but it irks me.

In the future, try be a little more cognizant of your audience. Thank you.
 
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Out of curiosity is your goal to teach confidence and self-worth, or just how to get laid at any cost?

Because I think there's a lot of value in the former, and nothing but sleaze in the later.

There's huge value in teaching folks how to be their best selves and how to express that to the opposite sex.
There's no value in teaching scripts, routines, tricks and games to get laid by pretending to be someone they aren't.
 

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I have spent my entire life trying to "get" women. The problem is that I just don't. Attracting women is another story though.

Sometimes while talking to the wife I will say something. She becomes upset. I don't "get" it.

Okay... not funny... I tried though. :)
 

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There's no value in teaching scripts, routines, tricks and games to get laid by pretending to be someone they aren't.
I have spent my entire life trying to "get" women. The problem is that I just don't. Attracting women is another story though.

Sometimes while talking to the wife I will say something. She becomes upset. I don't "get" it.

Okay... not funny... I tried though. :)

How to be a good husband, and build supportive relationships that last...why is nobody ever selling this course?
 

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Here is my bulletproof plan to attracting women, ready?
  1. Be attractive
  2. Don't be a douche
  3. Be a man of high value (i.e. have money, power, etc)
Now pay me $1,000.
 
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As other people have said, please don't teach any PUA stuff...women know all about it and we don't need more of that in the world. I think a good rule of thumb is, if you would be perfectly comfortable for any woman in your life to join your course, including one you might potentially date, then what you're teaching is good! Boosting men's confidence and helping them become the kind of man that the kind of woman they want to meet would want to meet sounds like it could be a great service, and if you play it from the right angle, you could attract good guys who want to improve themselves instead of some sleazy ones trying to figure out how to manipulate women.

Anyway, why don't you start today and get a group of guys together, friends on Facebook or email contacts, and find out what guys want to know about becoming irresistible to the woman of their dreams? If you can find out their burning questions that they haven't been able to find the answer to anywhere else, you could start to build a course around it. Maybe you could do some live webinars with them each week, answer their previous questions, and find out their new ones, and by the end of that you would have a lot of material to work with. Then you can see if what you're teaching makes a difference in people's lives as you go.
 
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How long do you expect to be a teacher after you publish media with a demographic that includes 15 year old boys on how to pick up girls?

Do you people think through this before you put this out on the internet? Is your user ID your real name, since you've posted here publicly that you're not interested in being a teacher?

Did you do anything with the last business ideas you posted here? Including:

Real estate agent
Multi-family housing investor
Sales
YouTube channel which seems like it is now defunct teaching other people how to be successful
Laundromat
And now a pick up artist?

Let's skip past this one to the next one and shorten the cycle a little bit. How long until you give up on this one and move to the next unrelated idea?
 
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Take “attracting woman” and turn it into “attracting business” and you have a 1,000 times better niche.

- 99% of people don’t like the pick up industry
- if you use personal branding you will get backlash (this thread is a tiny taste), if you don’t people won’t trust your product
- it’s over saturated, full of weirdos, and highly competitive

Talk nearly all the exact same skills and target people who want to get promoted, or close a big deal, or get better at selling, and you have a great business you can be highly enthusiastic about.

In five years you can be saying...
“I teach 15 year olds to get girls”
Or
“I teach the best local business people to feel great and achieve success”

Or as Lex says pick a different part of the relationship like how to maintain attraction in a marriage.
 

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Out of curiosity is your goal to teach confidence and self-worth, or just how to get laid at any cost?

Because I think there's a lot of value in the former, and nothing but sleaze in the later.

There's huge value in teaching folks how to be their best selves and how to express that to the opposite sex.
There's no value in teaching scripts, routines, tricks and games to get laid by pretending to be someone they aren't.

As a female, I agree with this and with MJ's statement as well.

Everyone should strive to be healthy, dress well, have good hygiene, and speak well. It's far more important to have these as life skills rather than pickup skills. Also, is this purported series going to teach men to be gentlemanly? That too, is a life skill that is important far beyond picking up chicks.

I just looked on youtube and I see:

31,200,000 hits on "how to pick up girls"
25,400,000 hits on "life skills"
4,840,000 hits on "how to be a gentleman"

Something to think about.
 

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Well, the replies to this thread have re-enforced the market demand for the book I've been writing for a year and a half now:

@JohnBuffet - If you enter this industry, the words I write are part of my book, they are copy-written, and you do not have permission to re-use them in any form. But since we are both entrepreneurs who are solving the same problem (relationships for men and the women who have to deal with us men), I encourage you to use the principles here as a guiding direction for you in helping the market; because it's what it needs.

Excerpt #1: Flipping the script away from tactics and external things.
While most guys go out there looking for the latest dating advice, tactics, tips and tricks, pickup lines, what to say, what types of dates to go on, how to dress, how to act, how to behave, what to do, what not to do, what cologne or jewelry to wear, how to put your best foot forward and put up a front so maybe she can like the type of person you pretend to be at the surface; where does all this lead you?

Lonely. Frustrated. Upset. Another first date without a second. Another night of going home alone. Another box of tissues and five minutes on PornHub as you smoke some weed or drink some alcohol to cover up the pain and fall asleep; alone again.

It’s frustrating…

You see all these other men out there attracting women with ease and you don’t know how the do it. You try to do what they do, but despite doing the exact same things that worked for them; they don’t work for you and people make you feel ashamed and embarrassed for trying to do it too. They seem to get all the results that you’re not. Like most guys, you’re just trying to get what makes you happy in life. And it’s not working out for you the way you expect.

So how do we make that upgrade? How do we transform from who we are into who we want to be so that we can finally attract the dating life, the social standing, and the relationship(s) we truly want and deserve?

What you're about to experience will carry over through your business, career, and all other areas of your life too.

This book is for those of us who are sick and tired of being just another average guy who seems to always finish last and get left behind. This is for those of us who truly want to commit to this journey. By the time you are done reading this, you will be able to embody the very essence of what (edited for privacy - brand name) truly stands for.

Authentic Attraction, at its core. This book is your guide and we will show you the way.

Excerpt #2: Showing how pickup tactics are an epic disaster for long-term growth

Let’s “Neg the girl and put her down to make her feel insecure so she wants to be with me. Let’s carefully construct our social media pictures to look we are abundant, successful, and attractive. Let’s take out a car loan we can’t afford to impress someone we drive a Mercedes on a $30,000 per year salary. Let's pay this Instagram model $500 to post in a picture, or video, with me and call this success with 'pickup'.

She takes your money and leaves you...alone and lonely once again.

Yes, this advice you've been given from the internet may lead to the second date, but sooner or later; the real you is finally exposed, and she disappears just like the rest. The journey you are about to embark on today resolves all of that…because when you work through all of these limitations that once were a part of you, and the authentically attractive version of yourself comes out, she’ll see a man she actually wants to be with…and is magnetically drawn to.

In ways you might not even imagine…

Excerpt #3: Magnetic Attraction

What if attracting women is not something you go chasing after? What if it’s about something you are? If you see an attractive man as if he is a magnet; he doesn’t have to use any pickup lines. He doesn’t have to put up a front. When he is on his purpose and congruent with who he authentically is at his core, women sense this and they are magnetically drawn to him.

Whether it's the confident salesman with the beach-toned body or the confident mechanical engineer with reading glasses, it’s not the label outside of us which make us attractive; it’s owning who we authentically are and being self-confident. If the mechanical engineer tries to put up the front and be the sales-person persona, women can sense that he is being fake and see right through that.

But what happens if you own who you authentically are?

I'm not saying this will attract every women in the world (it won't), but you'll begin to attract more and more attractive women who are naturally attracted to YOU. And this is the reason why Magnetic Attraction is so effortless.

Excerpt #4: Cars, money, looks, etc.
Do you notice how women can sense those subtle vibes of energy you give off when you're not being true to yourself? When you are congruent with who you are at your core, all of a sudden all those things in the outside world don't matter anymore:

· You don't need the right things to say,

· You don't need the pickup lines,

· You don't need the designer clothes, jewelry, or cologne,

· You don't need the six-pack abs, and

· You most certainly don't need a lot of money.

Yes, you can add those things to your collection if you'd like. Those things are the icing on the top of the cake but what you're about to experience is what needs to come first...

Women who you once thought were out of your league will be attracted to you for being who you are, on your purpose. You’ll look at what most guys are doing in terms of their dating life and cringe at the painful mistakes that you’ve once made in your past. The painful mistakes they are still making. You’ll have confidence and charisma, and your life will have purpose and meaning.
 
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The reason I didn't do any of those ideas is was because they all were more active than I anticipated..

In other words, "active" = you had to work harder than expected. But as soon as work shows up more than some expectation you've set, you're on to the next, easier idea.

If you're not taking action because "passive income" might not happen for several months to several years, you'll never make it. Right now you are here searching for a unicorn.
 

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It seems almost impossible to start a successful business, workout to get in great shape, and date/attract a good woman at the same time, WHILE working with a normal day job...

Is this a limiting belief of mine or are my just being practical?
Just wait till you have kids...
 
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Well, the replies to this thread have re-enforced the market demand for the book I've been writing for a year and a half now

I hope you didn't get that from what I was saying. I think you too, are approaching it wrong. The end goal of self improvement should not be girls, or guys, but decent personhood. Those who have achieved decent personhood may or may not end up with a partner, but the difference is that if they don't end up with a partner, they will still have achieved something because they have improved as people, which also improves the lives of all they encounter. It's wrong to encourage people to tie up their self worth in "getting the girl" (or the guy) and encourage them to be clean and decent just to score, which is what you and Slick up there are both doing.
 

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That seemed a bit harsh man. No my ID is not my real name.

I am TRYING to figure out which business to go about, which business to start. YES I have a lot of ideas.. thats what the process is about.. None of the ideas worked for certain reasons. Not sure why you would target me like that, but alright.

My point is in order to find the freedom you are looking for you are going to have to make a determination to invest your time, your money, your energy in a concept and then stick with it and grind through it to success. Any one of the things you talked about previously could have been successful, excluding the one where you were going to teach other people how to be successful.

In order to create uncommon results you have to have uncommon action. Everybody has ideas... The difference between winners and losers is the people that take action on their ideas versus the people that are still posting about them weeks, months, years later. Don't let that become you.
 
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Assume all 7 and above. Let's say he offers so much value, whereby if you can't attract more than 5 girlfriends within a 90 day period after using his course, he'll refund you the $. :cool:
Do you know how expensive having 5 girlfriends would be?!
 
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Eben Pagan made millions in pick-up.

Just because you CAN make money with something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

I think a good rule of thumb is, if you would be perfectly comfortable for any woman in your life to join your course, including one you might potentially date, then what you're teaching is good!

That's a solid way to look at this topic and an excellent point. If women would look at your course and say "this guy is teaching exactly what we wished others would teach!" you're on the right track. If you have hesitation and feel the need to veil it from the opposite sex, chances are you're being a sleazeball.

It seems almost impossible to start a successful business, workout to get in great shape, and date/attract a good woman at the same time, WHILE working with a normal day job...

Yeah, try to do all of them at once and it's pretty impossible. Most people struggle with any one of those, let alone them all.

But if you start with one, get it right, add just one more, get it right, etc... you can integrate them all seamlessly into your life.

Juggling 10 balls is impossible if you don't first learn how to juggle 2.
 

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Funny... This forum is full of people who has "left" the scripted life that is " socially acceptable" to live how THEY want to live.
The same people seems to not understand that: "find yourself one princess, marry her, have kids..." etc. is also part of scripted, socially accepted life.
Nothing wrong with it, but there are people (lots of people) who prefer dating and "dating" numerous partnets - both males and females - and none of you have right to make any judgements - because it's alright as long as both people want the same thing.

Things like: "the harder it is to get to woman pants, the better she is" is FREAKING bullshit! And yet, another of those "socially accepted" stereotype.
It's amazing how few people actually understand that...

Not your dating life - not your business. Stop being judgemental as majority of "normal" people.
 

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I have spent my entire life trying to "get" women. The problem is that I just don't. Attracting women is another story though.

Sometimes while talking to the wife I will say something. She becomes upset. I don't "get" it.

Okay... not funny... I tried though. :)
Totally what I was going to write.
 
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I think this market is pretty saturated. There are many youtube channels already teaching this and for free. Some of them are big channels too with 100s of thousands of subscribers. The thing I have against books and videos teaching how to get women is that they are mostly all wrong. First of all, they assume all women think and feel the same way. So they teach these BS formulas and think it will work. I am not trying to brag, but I don't even bother using pick up lines or trying to impress women at all and women are always interested in me. The thing is, when you are out in the real world and are around women, you start to see how they "really" are. So many of these "pick up" materials out there are from a man's perspective and it is mostly wrong. I have seen a few women on youtube teaching this stuff too and they teach the same approach too.

The problem I have is that they teach men that they need external things to attract women. That their worthiness is all based on performance. It teaches men to be in this constant approval-seeking mode. Rarely do they ever teach about inherent worth. All they do is make men more insecure than they already are and make them think they are not good enough just as they are. When men do all the things they were told were supposed to work and it does not they get bitter. They blame women, they feel entitled, and then you get movements like MGTOW and Red Pill. Some guys think they can be an ugly slob and have no manners or respect for anyone and they can get models. Get real. I am proof you don't need all this flashy shit to attract women. Learn to understand women, learn to look at their humanity, realize they are not much different than men and focus on relationship skills, not "getting laid" skills. I actually hate being around the majority of men because they are insecure and overcompensate their masculinity. If you have any real world experience you will know that what is generally taught to men on how to attract women only works for a minority of women (usually the dysfunctional, easy, needy, and gold digging types). Sorry, not the kind of women I want. If you need to change who you are so much to attract a woman then it is not worth it. Think of women like business. You know how if the barrier of entry is hard the rewards will be greater? Well, apply this to women too. If the barrier to entry into a woman's pants is easy then everyone else will be able to gain entry. IMO, the easier they are the bigger problems they come with.
 
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Ok, what if he backs that up with an ironclad 90-day money back guarantee whereby if you can't attract more than 5 women and turn them all into girlfriends, he refunds the money?

  1. That’s a lot of girlfriends.
  2. Are we talking about 5’s or 10’s here?
(I’m being sarcastic, these PUA threads make me wanna PU-KE!)
 
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It is so difficult to attract the right type of person while trying to build a business.

To all of the heavy hitters here on the board, did you meet your significant other before or after you "made it"?
Some before, some after. :)

The real key was that my wife stayed with me after losing millions and going to negative net worth. She became part of the rebuild.
 
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Hey @JohnBuffet . This post could very well prove to be more valuable to you than originally anticipated.

As you have previously found, choosing a business and idea is the most difficult part of the equation for most people. Of course you still need to find that.

Passive income is usually only achieved by people that have a lot of money. It takes hard work to build to that point. Finding obstacles is the easy part. Getting past them takes a lot of work and a strong amount of will.

Fear of uncertainty and lack of drive are included in the list of obstacles.

Keep pushing!
 
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Here is my bulletproof plan to attracting women, ready?
  1. Be attractive
  2. Don't be a douche
  3. Be a man of high value (i.e. have money, power, etc)
Now pay me $1,000.

Bulletproof? Please.

1.Take care of yourself.
2.Don't be a douche.

Now refund all the money you scammed lol. You money has no power unless you're into golddiggers. :p
 
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