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Aside from the blatant tipping of Fast Lane term..

Holy bad page design batman.

That color scheme hurts my eyes. The copy is horrible. The long copy doesn't.. ever... end.. it.. just.. keeps.. going...

There isn't a CTA until the very bottom. No ones going to stick around through a 15 minute read to see that.

This could be a really good example of what NOT to do for a page.
 

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Aside from the blatant tipping of Fast Lane term..

Holy bad page design batman.

That color scheme hurts my eyes. The copy is horrible. The long copy doesn't.. ever... end.. it.. just.. keeps.. going...

There isn't a CTA until the very bottom. No ones going to stick around through a 15 minute read to see that.

This could be a really good example of what NOT to do for a page.

So he stole from MJ, but didn't actually learn anything from MJ.

Figures.
 

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So he stole from MJ, but didn't actually learn anything from MJ.

Figures.

This ^ perfectly sums it up.

The funny thing is MJ seldom worries about people like this.

Because... they almost always flame out.

Nobody cares. Look at that page. Shitty page, shitty message, NO contact information.

Go ahead and give them your credit card number.

Many times these losers trace back to an email to MJ, a forum member with negative rep, or just a nobody.
 

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Well I don't know about that specific site/funnel but this guy makes crazy amounts of money so he is living in the fast lane. He was recently featured on entrepreneur.com, mixergy.com, success.com and other sites.
 

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That is Scott Oldford. @S.O here on the forum. (Last seen here April 2014)

He was actually selected to speak at the 2016 Fastlane Summit but never showed up. No notification, no reply to my repeated emails. Just a "no call, no show".

He's been running ads on Facebook like crazy for this SSF thing. I had to hide his video ads because they are extremely annoying.

https://www.facebook.com/officialscottoldford/
 

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Well I don't know about that specific site/funnel but this guy makes crazy amounts of money so he is living in the fast lane. He was recently featured on entrepreneur.com, mixergy.com, success.com and other sites.

There was a guy on the forum a few years ago. He talked a LOT about how much sales he did. I got to know him. What nobody knew was that he spent more than he sold. I guess he thought he would make it up in volume. Things aren't always what they appear to be.
 

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That is Scott Oldford. @S.O here on the forum. (Last seen here April 2014)

He was actually selected to speak at the 2016 Fastlane Summit but never showed up. No notification, no reply to my repeated emails. Just a "no call, no show".

He's been running ads on Facebook like crazy for this SSF thing. I had to hide his video ads because that are extremely annoying.

https://www.facebook.com/officialscottoldford/

He's the guy that literally did a no-show for the speaking engagement? If I remember correctly, you and I did a soft shoe tap/jazz routine to fill the space.

I told you these knockoffs usually trace back.
 

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That is Scott Oldford. @S.O here on the forum. (Last seen here April 2014)

He was actually selected to speak at the 2016 Fastlane Summit but never showed up. No notification, no reply to my repeated emails. Just a "no call, no show".

He's been running ads on Facebook like crazy for this SSF thing. I had to hide his video ads because that are extremely annoying.

https://www.facebook.com/officialscottoldford/

Last LOGGED IN to the forum then. Probably last here 5 minutes ago, like most of the creepers. Want some more material, Scott?

Funny that this thread will be indexed for you on Google.

 

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He's the guy that literally did a no-show for the speaking engagement? If I remember correctly, you and I did a soft shoe tap/jazz routine to fill the space.

I told you these knockoffs usually trace back.

NOW it makes sense that he didn't show up to speak.

Imagine his speech, when he starts in with :

The SSF Method is based on what I call three lanes: Sidewalk, Slow Lane, and Fast Lane.

And @GlobalWealth throws the first tomato.
 

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Let's make it easy for google...
Sidewalk, Slow Lane, and Fast Lane sales funnel
SSF method scam ripoff lies

Last LOGGED IN to the forum then. Probably last here 5 minutes ago, like most of the creepers. Want some more material, Scott?

Funny that this thread will be indexed for you on Google.

 

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Looks like there are some Jordan Belfort methods mixed in too.
 

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The thing is, Scott openly praised TMF ... I would have thought he would have at least given some credit somewhere on his page before ripping my shit.
 

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I don't get it.

And I will never get it.

How can you expect to get away with things like that?

Especially in (digital) times like this.

What does that mean for your future (business) life if you are caught stealing once?

Show some freaking respect for other people's work.

Man, show some freaking respect for your freaking self.

Because if you did, you would never blatantly copy anything.
 

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I don't get it.

And I will never get it.

How can you expect to get away with things like that?

Especially in (digital) times like this.

What does that mean for your future (business) life if you are caught stealing once?

Show some freaking respect for other people's work.

Man, show some freaking respect for your freaking self.

Because if you did, you would never blatantly copy anything.

Probably because copying something as successful as TMF, and someone as successful as MJ, is seen as a shortcut to riches.

"Skip the process and proceed directly to wealthy." <----yeah, that'll work :rolleyes:

Apparently he missed the part where MJ worked hard to build his process.
 

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Probably because copying something as successful as TMF, and someone as successful as MJ, is seen as a shortcut to riches.

"Skip the process and proceed directly to wealthy." <----yeah, that'll work :rolleyes:

Apparently he missed the part where MJ worked hard to build his process.

I get why people do it.

I just don't get how people can be so naive that they...

A...do it
B...expect to have lasting success
C...and expect to get away with it

I found this today and think it's a good chance to bump it - @SinisterLex and his take on shortcuts:

 

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As mentioned previously, the website is horrible (not just saying that because the guy ripped of TMF -- the website genuinely hurts). I was so confused that I just closed my tab because I had no idea what was going on.

Anyway, he's not going to create long term success like this. The great thing about life is that true success is built on the right ingredients, sure you may get away with it for now but it will come back to you when you least expect it. For instance, Scott Oldford's reputation is already ruined, I've never heard or seen of him until now. I'm going to tell some of my friends about him and his website too and if they ever hear his name again in the future, they'll probably repeat what they heard about him from me. And so the question Scott must ask himself is this, 'was it really worth it?'.
 

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Not that he should have used those terms, but if you actually read his site....

His version of Sidewalk, Slowlane and Fastlane has nothing to do with what MJ talks about. He uses those terms to describe people's willingness to buy a product

  • Sidewalkers don't even know they have a need for your product
  • Slowlaners know they have a need but aren't likely to buy anything right now
  • Fastlaners know they have a need are are desperate to buy something now to fix their problem.


Now, will I sign up for his service? Nope. I don't even know what he's offering. The copy is too painful to read.
 

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The ffsmethod ...
 

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So he stole from MJ, but didn't actually learn anything from MJ.

Figures.

He'll still get some people, because they don't know any better either.

"Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay probably sounds amazing if you don't know what either of those things are." - some guy on reddit.
 

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The only that stuck for me was "funnels 2.0", I bet he thought that was genius, just genius.
 

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