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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 114054" data-quote="piano" data-source="post: 1108024" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108024" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108024">piano said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Damn you&#039;re so far with your window cleaning biz that you&#039;re now healing cancer as an extra service? <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><br /> <br /> Jokes aside, I get what you mean, but I&#039;m not sure if my value from window cleaning is enough to justify it for me personally.<br /> Btw, we should hang out some time again! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Let&#039;s get a fastlane germany meet up going.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Who else is looking forward to not watching the super bowl this Sunday? <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I am currently thinking/testing a lot about the concept that money you earn is proportionnal to your utility in the system, AKA the amount of problems you solve. <br /> <br /> Help people, be super helpful, get paid, you know the drill <br /> <br /> (On a side note this is actually of tremendous help in my new slowlane job, I&#039;ll write a thread about that)<br /> <br /> Anyway there&#039;s my thought of the day:<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/1707517261084-webp.54161/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/50/50777-133db546302c706dbe54cea5be48eb79.jpg?hash=4xiiLoJV3s" class="bbImage " style="" alt="1707517261084.webp" title="1707517261084.webp" width="231" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Need some tough love/advice here. Client requested website by Thurs, Feb 1, on 3 weeks notice. I had it up Monday, Jan 29 on staging. He doesn&#039;t get around to reviewing it. Feb 1 rolls around and he says that his marketing efforts have launched but the website is not live (after not responding to my Monday email). I respond by launching a landing page version of it shortly thereafter and send him the full invoice, along with the opportunity for 30 days of changes/edits and 1 year of hosting. He requests a partial bill instead as he didn&#039;t get a chance to provide feedback and review.<br /> <br /> &quot;my understanding was that ~$x,xxx would get me a website that I’d had the opportunity to provide content for. I haven’t had time for that yet. I had several days of availability to do this in late January when the beta skeleton was due, but when that time passed, my availability went with it. I will make time to provide content, but you’ve invoiced me for the finished product. I don’t feel comfortable paying you for the finished product at this point. Would you be willing to send me an invoice for partial payment&quot;<br /> <br /> Note that we never formally discussed a &quot;beta skeleton&quot; just the Feb 1 deadline. I have no interest in billing for a partial payment as it will drag this project on and signal that what I&#039;ve done is only worth that much - already 34 days into it and he has only provided a logo, phone number and logo. Meanwhile, the website is live on my hosting and generating leads (to my email, which I&#039;ve decided to not provide until payment).<br /> <br /> Do I:<br /> <br /> a) Delete the website, cut losses. (do not need this client / nor his money)<br /> <br /> b) Be the bigger person, just let things simmer, ignore it for now, let him provide content and eventually payment<br /> <br /> The fact that he has been such a hardass leads me to want to do option a.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22383" data-quote="Choate" data-source="post: 1108223" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108223" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108223">Choate said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Need some tough love/advice here. Client requested website by Thurs, Feb 1, on 3 weeks notice. I had it up Monday, Jan 29 on staging. He doesn&#039;t get around to reviewing it. Feb 1 rolls around and he says that his marketing efforts have launched but the website is not live (after not responding to my Monday email). I respond by launching a landing page version of it shortly thereafter and send him the full invoice, along with the opportunity for 30 days of changes/edits and 1 year of hosting. He requests a partial bill instead as he didn&#039;t get a chance to provide feedback and review.<br /> <br /> &quot;my understanding was that ~$x,xxx would get me a website that I’d had the opportunity to provide content for. I haven’t had time for that yet. I had several days of availability to do this in late January when the beta skeleton was due, but when that time passed, my availability went with it. I will make time to provide content, but you’ve invoiced me for the finished product. I don’t feel comfortable paying you for the finished product at this point. Would you be willing to send me an invoice for partial payment&quot;<br /> <br /> Note that we never formally discussed a &quot;beta skeleton&quot; just the Feb 1 deadline. I have no interest in billing for a partial payment as it will drag this project on and signal that what I&#039;ve done is only worth that much - already 34 days into it and he has only provided a logo, phone number and logo. Meanwhile, the website is live on my hosting and generating leads (to my email, which I&#039;ve decided to not provide until payment).<br /> <br /> Do I:<br /> <br /> a) Delete the website, cut losses. (do not need this client / nor his money)<br /> <br /> b) Be the bigger person, just let things simmer, ignore it for now, let him provide content and eventually payment<br /> <br /> The fact that he has been such a hardass leads me to want to do option a. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Send him an invoice for 80-90%?<br /> <br /> I’d take partial payment over no payment<br /> <br /> He also didn’t specify how partial</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22383" data-quote="Choate" data-source="post: 1108223" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108223" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108223">Choate said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Need some tough love/advice here. Client requested website by Thurs, Feb 1, on 3 weeks notice. I had it up Monday, Jan 29 on staging. He doesn&#039;t get around to reviewing it. Feb 1 rolls around and he says that his marketing efforts have launched but the website is not live (after not responding to my Monday email). I respond by launching a landing page version of it shortly thereafter and send him the full invoice, along with the opportunity for 30 days of changes/edits and 1 year of hosting. He requests a partial bill instead as he didn&#039;t get a chance to provide feedback and review.<br /> <br /> &quot;my understanding was that ~$x,xxx would get me a website that I’d had the opportunity to provide content for. I haven’t had time for that yet. I had several days of availability to do this in late January when the beta skeleton was due, but when that time passed, my availability went with it. I will make time to provide content, but you’ve invoiced me for the finished product. I don’t feel comfortable paying you for the finished product at this point. Would you be willing to send me an invoice for partial payment&quot;<br /> <br /> Note that we never formally discussed a &quot;beta skeleton&quot; just the Feb 1 deadline. I have no interest in billing for a partial payment as it will drag this project on and signal that what I&#039;ve done is only worth that much - already 34 days into it and he has only provided a logo, phone number and logo. Meanwhile, the website is live on my hosting and generating leads (to my email, which I&#039;ve decided to not provide until payment).<br /> <br /> Do I:<br /> <br /> a) Delete the website, cut losses. (do not need this client / nor his money)<br /> <br /> b) Be the bigger person, just let things simmer, ignore it for now, let him provide content and eventually payment<br /> <br /> The fact that he has been such a hardass leads me to want to do option a. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Oh I&#039;m downright angry at the client with you over this.<br /> <br /> If you don&#039;t need the client or his money, I would in no way let this simmer. He stands to make money through this marketing campaign for every day this &quot;free&quot; website is live. He&#039;s trying to bully you and seeing how far he can get away with it.<br /> <br /> &quot;My understanding was that the price for you to have your website live by Feb 1 was $X,XXX. Your failure to review or provide content in no way impacts the fact that I have fulfilled my end of the deal. I expect payment in full by [DEADLINE] or the site will be deleted. Sincerely, Choate.&quot;<br /> <br /> I would give him 24 hours (e.g. until Monday at noon). And then follow through.<br /> <br /> Or maybe delete the site first and say you&#039;ll put it back only when he has paid. That way he stands less of a chance of cloning the site and putting it up anyway.<br /> <br /> (And just to reassure you that you&#039;re not the one being petty, imagine how offended this client would be if the roles were reversed and someone tried to pull this on him!)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 59397" data-quote="Bekit" data-source="post: 1108290" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108290" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108290">Bekit said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Oh I&#039;m downright angry at the client with you over this.<br /> <br /> If you don&#039;t need the client or his money, I would in no way let this simmer. He stands to make money through this marketing campaign for every day this &quot;free&quot; website is live. He&#039;s trying to bully you and seeing how far he can get away with it.<br /> <br /> &quot;My understanding was that the price for you to have your website live by Feb 1 was $X,XXX. Your failure to review or provide content in no way impacts the fact that I have fulfilled my end of the deal. I expect payment in full by [DEADLINE] or the site will be deleted. Sincerely, Choate.&quot;<br /> <br /> I would give him 24 hours (e.g. until Monday at noon). And then follow through.<br /> <br /> Or maybe delete the site first and say you&#039;ll put it back only when he has paid. That way he stands less of a chance of cloning the site and putting it up anyway.<br /> <br /> (And just to reassure you that you&#039;re not the one being petty, imagine how offended this client would be if the roles were reversed and someone tried to pull this on him!) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Thanks for your input. I addressed it in a similar fashion and then immediately deleted the site. Fact is, him offering a partial payment discounts the work that was done up to this point, which also included copyrighting, needing to source stock images, etc because he provided nothing. Extending this to a 60 or 90 day project (based on whenever he can get around to it) goes well beyond the scope of the budget (which was under $2k for reference).<br /> <br /> Honestly, it felt like being bullied. I may have taken a few days to get back to him here or there, but still delivered my end within a 3 week timeframe - he did not.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22018" data-quote="MitchC" data-source="post: 1108276" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108276" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108276">MitchC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Send him an invoice for 80-90%?<br /> <br /> I’d take partial payment over no payment<br /> <br /> He also didn’t specify how partial </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Eh, I think this would be tough. It&#039;s practical and of course money is money, but it&#039;s someone who I don&#039;t want to continue working with further. I think partial definitely implies 50% (or maybe 75% at best), but even if it was 90%, I wouldn&#039;t want it.<br /> <br /> - Discuss on project on an urgent discovery call / launch is 3 weeks out<br /> - Becomes demanding during this time while sharing nothing of the business<br /> - Website is shared 4 days before launch date, crickets from his end<br /> - On launch date, tries to gaslight saying that website launch is delayed and marketing efforts started early, leading people to question whether the business is legitimate (???). I whip up a landing page version, setup Cloudflare/DNS, provide all copy and stock images, launch two days later<br /> - Offers partial payment because he hasn&#039;t had time to give his input yet<br /> <br /> Mostly just venting here and recapping to evaluate my own sanity, appreciate the insights. I did shut things down and send a closing email tonight.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22383" data-quote="Choate" data-source="post: 1108312" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108312" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108312">Choate said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Eh, I think this would be tough. It&#039;s practical and of course money is money, but it&#039;s someone who I don&#039;t want to continue working with further. I think partial definitely implies 50% (or maybe 75% at best), but even if it was 90%, I wouldn&#039;t want it.<br /> <br /> - Discuss on project on an urgent discovery call / launch is 3 weeks out<br /> - Becomes demanding during this time while sharing nothing of the business<br /> - Website is shared 4 days before launch date, crickets from his end<br /> - On launch date, tries to gaslight saying that website launch is delayed and marketing efforts started early, leading people to question whether the business is legitimate (???). I whip up a landing page version, setup Cloudflare/DNS, provide all copy and stock images, launch two days later<br /> - Offers partial payment because he hasn&#039;t had time to give his input yet<br /> <br /> Mostly just venting here and recapping to evaluate my own sanity, appreciate the insights. I did shut things down and send a closing email tonight. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Not saying to do this (yet?), but bear in mind a line I like: &quot;Refund with glee.&quot; I&#039;ve done that a few times and always feel better for it.<br /> <br /> Btw... I&#039;m often able to word it so they&#039;re grateful too.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Excellent video on the dropping of quality on mainstream podcasts...<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="uE1GuFQHxSE"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uE1GuFQHxSE?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33771" data-quote="Fox" data-source="post: 1108423" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108423" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108423">Fox said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Excellent video on the dropping of quality on mainstream podcasts...<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="uE1GuFQHxSE"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uE1GuFQHxSE?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>All content businesses face this problem - there&#039;s only so much to be said, but the more you say the more views you get.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22383" data-quote="Choate" data-source="post: 1108312" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108312" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108312">Choate said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Eh, I think this would be tough. It&#039;s practical and of course money is money, but it&#039;s someone who I don&#039;t want to continue working with further. I think partial definitely implies 50% (or maybe 75% at best), but even if it was 90%, I wouldn&#039;t want it.<br /> <br /> - Discuss on project on an urgent discovery call / launch is 3 weeks out<br /> - Becomes demanding during this time while sharing nothing of the business<br /> - Website is shared 4 days before launch date, crickets from his end<br /> - On launch date, tries to gaslight saying that website launch is delayed and marketing efforts started early, leading people to question whether the business is legitimate (???). I whip up a landing page version, setup Cloudflare/DNS, provide all copy and stock images, launch two days later<br /> - Offers partial payment because he hasn&#039;t had time to give his input yet<br /> <br /> Mostly just venting here and recapping to evaluate my own sanity, appreciate the insights. I did shut things down and send a closing email tonight. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I can&#039;t believe some of you on here deliver websites for $2k. <br /> <br /> Given the amount of money involved and time, any client who&#039;s negotiating on &quot;partial&quot; over a $2k is a shit client. How are you supposed to scale your business with clients like that?<br /> <br /> And remember, shit clients have friends to refer to you, who are also shit clients. You are digging a hole working with people like that. <br /> <br /> Good on you for shutting down the website for non-payment. I&#039;d be bolder than that and say that leads have started generating from this website. For any passing day of overdue invoice, if you do decide to pay and want me to reinstate the website with leads, there is a non-payment penalty of $100 per day.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Here&#039;s a list of all the Super-Bowl commercials that involved something you can <b><u>eat</u></b> or <b><u>drink</u></b>....<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pringles</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lindt Chocolate</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">M&amp;Ms</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mountain Dew</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Popeyes Chicken</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Nerds Candy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Oreo Cookies</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mayonaise</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Doritos</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bud Light</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Michelob Ultra</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reese Peanut Butter Cups</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Coors Light</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Starry Soda</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Poppi Soda (marketing says healthy? Don&#039;t believe it)</li> </ul><br /> Consuming every single one of them will contribute to shortening your life or to sickness and disease.<br /> <br /> And then ironically, throw in a Pfizer commercial who will help you medicate and manage the disease you self-inflicted.<br /> <br /> What a time we live in.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">E<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1108442" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108442" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108442">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Here&#039;s a list of all the Super-Bowl commercials that involved something you can <b><u>eat</u></b> or <b><u>drink</u></b>....<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pringles</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lindt Chocolate</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">M&amp;Ms</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mountain Dew</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Popeyes Chicken</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Nerds Candy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Oreo Cookies</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mayonaise</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Doritos</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bud Light</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Michelob Ultra</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reese Peanut Butter Cups</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Coors Light</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Starry Soda</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Poppi Soda (marketing says healthy? Don&#039;t believe it)</li> </ul><br /> Consuming every single one of them will contribute to shortening your life or to sickness and disease.<br /> <br /> And then ironically, throw in a Pfizer commercial who will help you medicate and manage the disease you self-inflicted.<br /> <br /> What a time we live in. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Eli lilly growing fast at 700b market cap now. <br /> <br /> If we move into AI utopian, Nvidia and other semiconductors manufacturers will be the new big tech. <br /> <br /> If we move into big pharma dystopia, they will be the new big tech with trillion dollar companies. <br /> <br /> I am not sure yet what will happen.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Going back to the injuries/aging stuff...<br /> <br /> I got back into yoga and holy shit, I forgot how crazy hard it can be. <br /> <br /> I injured my knee last June and it&#039;s been bothering me since then so I&#039;ve been avoiding any movements that involve the knee. It recently calmed down enough that I decided to start a knee strengthening/mobility/flexibility program to help me fully recover from it.<br /> <br /> The first workout was so F*cking hard it was one of the hardest workouts I&#039;ve ever done in my life. My entire body was shaking, I was drenched in sweat and had to pause every few seconds just to get through it. I wasn&#039;t even into the middle of it and I was so beat up I felt like crying while doing it lol.<br /> <br /> I also started another program for strengthening/mobilizing the shoulders to recover from another injury. I was told I would recover within a week and it&#039;s been three weeks already - I bet I&#039;d be recovered within a week if I was 20.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Just to add my contribution to this scientific experiment:<br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/1707762201175-webp.54199/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/50/50815-20e4b2fc4bba00e6fcdaa678973c85c2.jpg?hash=P-uHQ26elL" class="bbImage " style="" alt="1707762201175.png" title="1707762201175.png" width="220" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> Taken from the middle of the sleeve.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Another good reason to always be working on something on the side. The contract job that I am is outsourcing our jobs to an India MSP. I can&#039;t specify the amount, but all responsibilities will be going to them. Oh my gah. This market has been insane. The company roughly has bout ~1,000 users, so our ticket volume is low. 600 at most a month. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be the first one to go.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Their also trying to do a Billion in revenue in 3 years and plan on acquiring a few companies, but the number of users is very small per acquisition say roughly ~50-75.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 96450" data-quote="ZackerySprague" data-source="post: 1108474" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108474" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108474">ZackerySprague said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Another good reason to always be working on something on the side. The contract job that I am is outsourcing our jobs to an India MSP. I can&#039;t specify the amount, but all responsibilities will be going to them. Oh my gah. This market has been insane. The company roughly has bout ~1,000 users, so our ticket volume is low. 600 at most a month. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be the first one to go. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>In a few years they&#039;ll get a new manager who&#039;s goal will be to bring it all back.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23590" data-quote="Andy Black" data-source="post: 1108480" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108480" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108480">Andy Black said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> In a few years they&#039;ll get a new manager who&#039;s goal will be to bring it all back. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I hope so! Their still trying to fill in the manager position at the time of this writing. They are tiering all issues between Levels 1, 2, and 3. It&#039;s based on some organization structure program, my old boss told us what it was. I forget now.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23590" data-quote="Andy Black" data-source="post: 1108480" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108480" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108480">Andy Black said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> In a few years they&#039;ll get a new manager who&#039;s goal will be to bring it all back. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Beyond true.<br /> <br /> Phase 1: Company has on-shore IT team with decent quality level.<br /> <br /> Phase 2: Upper management has hot-shot new guy/gal with something to prove who previously lowered costs for another organization by moving IT off-shore. Moves Company&#039;s IT off-shore, gets patted on the back and headhunted over to another company to lead the same initiative never having to live with the results of their decisions.<br /> <br /> Phase 3: 1-3 years pass and quality has plummeted (OR costs of off-shore service rose so much to maintain same quality that it was no longer a savings). &quot;We are going to synergistically improve quality by bringing our IT ops in house and centralize things ... agile agile agile... IT as a competitive advantage...etc.&quot;<br /> <br /> Phase 4: Wait 3-5 more years and loop back from Phase 1.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">The feedback I received was these options:<br /> <br /> 1. If the MSP notices that we have a low ticket volume, then my contract won&#039;t be extended.<br /> <br /> OR<br /> <br /> 2. If there is high volume, then it would make sense to convert to full-time.<br /> <br /> It was too early to know.<br /> <br /> Life is like this, hahaha:<br /> <br /> <script class="js-extraPhrases" type="application/json"> { "lightbox_close": "Close", "lightbox_next": "Next", "lightbox_previous": "Previous", "lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.", "lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow", "lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow", "lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen", "lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails", "lightbox_download": "Download", "lightbox_share": "Share", "lightbox_zoom": "Zoom", "lightbox_new_window": "New window", "lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar" } </script> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1520175960487" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.licdn.com%2Fdms%2Fimage%2FC4E12AQF5FwSCCAln5g%2Farticle-cover_image-shrink_600_2000%2F0%2F1520175960487%3Fe%3D2147483647%26v%3Dbeta%26t%3DAYz_6Dflij1QrLTPH2EWtnIdQOAy-L7nmrZwk8TBtU0&amp;hash=f05e44d251b9f2f739356165ff1b5b9c" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.licdn.com%2Fdms%2Fimage%2FC4E12AQF5FwSCCAln5g%2Farticle-cover_image-shrink_600_2000%2F0%2F1520175960487%3Fe%3D2147483647%26v%3Dbeta%26t%3DAYz_6Dflij1QrLTPH2EWtnIdQOAy-L7nmrZwk8TBtU0&amp;hash=f05e44d251b9f2f739356165ff1b5b9c" data-url="https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4E12AQF5FwSCCAln5g/article-cover_image-shrink_600_2000/0/1520175960487?e=2147483647&amp;v=beta&amp;t=AYz_6Dflij1QrLTPH2EWtnIdQOAy-L7nmrZwk8TBtU0" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 420px" alt="1520175960487" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">The cool thing that happened the other day though is that my Uncle called me asking if I knew what SaaS businesses were and I said yes.<br /> <br /> So he found a need within the Cleaning Industry where a lady named Debrah wanted to use his software that allowed them to create a tiered system for their cleaning crews to help save costs and pay the ones who work the most their proper commissions versus others who are not based on a 4-hour cleaning job. Much more detail than this.<br /> <br /> They started their business 3-4 years ago and are now a $1million dollar business (he owns a cleaning business), but he saw that he had the perfect opportunity to create a fully-fledged Micro-SaaS app for the cleaning niche. He&#039;s already got the audience, he knows what the problem is, and has a technical mind (maybe).<br /> <br /> He&#039;s been utilizing Chatgpt to create scripts, he was asking if I knew how to code in HTML or CSS. I told him I was a bit familiar, but I a learning how to code on Laracasts.com and directed him to it. Gave him some feedback on what tools and equipment the developers use at my contracted job for their application.<br /> <br /> For now, he want&#039;s to build a basic MVP, get feedback from the cleaning companies, and build out the rest.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Why anything ADOBE sucks, and why any business they acquire ultimately will go to shit.<br /> <br /> (Best viewed in laptop/desktop)<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="410559" data-url="https://growth.design/case-studies/adobe-trial-ux" data-host="growth.design" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Ffiles.growth.design%2Fcms%2Fcls9kc8ss001t0tmvgj55e5ek.png&amp;hash=296894531314c4309ef33712454f41a5&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="growth.design" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://growth.design/case-studies/adobe-trial-ux" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-proxy-href=""> Adobe: The growing issue with “Free” trials UX </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">Learn how to improve your free trial user experience without falling into the traps of optimizing for conversions and upsells, resulting in a subpar UX.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> </span> growth.design </div> </div> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 55234" data-quote="Antifragile" data-source="post: 1108433" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108433" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108433">Antifragile said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I can&#039;t believe some of you on here deliver websites for $2k.<br /> <br /> Given the amount of money involved and time, any client who&#039;s negotiating on &quot;partial&quot; over a $2k is a shit client. How are you supposed to scale your business with clients like that?<br /> <br /> And remember, shit clients have friends to refer to you, who are also shit clients. You are digging a hole working with people like that.<br /> <br /> Good on you for shutting down the website for non-payment. I&#039;d be bolder than that and say that leads have started generating from this website. For any passing day of overdue invoice, if you do decide to pay and want me to reinstate the website with leads, there is a non-payment penalty of $100 per day. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You are 100% correct. I started web dev back in 2018 and had my prices relatively low (under $2k) to start. Every so often I hear from a client from a few years ago wanting help on a new project. They are usually pretty easy, so I do it on the side when I have free time. But the potential for headache, like this one, and potential to be as demanding as a regular project means this is absolutely the last time I do it.<br /> <br /> I have an LLC and an agency site to market to small businesses in my region. I need to start to refer all of my clients to this and drafting up a better contract and statement of work to share with them before starting any new projects.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1108487" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108487" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108487">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Why anything ADOBE sucks, and why any business they acquire ultimately will go to shit.<br /> <br /> (Best viewed in laptop/desktop)<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="410559" data-url="https://growth.design/case-studies/adobe-trial-ux" data-host="growth.design" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Ffiles.growth.design%2Fcms%2Fcls9kc8ss001t0tmvgj55e5ek.png&amp;hash=296894531314c4309ef33712454f41a5&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="growth.design" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://growth.design/case-studies/adobe-trial-ux" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> Adobe: The growing issue with “Free” trials UX </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">Learn how to improve your free trial user experience without falling into the traps of optimizing for conversions and upsells, resulting in a subpar UX.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> </span> growth.design </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Ethical marketing vs. profit maximization. If a company can legally do this, I don&#039;t see what&#039;s stopping them - maybe the FTC/GDPR/whatever needs to step in and clamp down on free trials like this.<br /> <br /> Step 1 - avoid free trials<br /> <br /> Step 2 - avoid anything with a credit system, it&#039;s absurd how effective this is in manipulating human behavior; and often means you don&#039;t own something but rather license it<br /> <br /> It really brings me back to the thread here on the forum about the guy looking for a refund on his Elementor Pro subscription and was denied. Hate to see it, but until there&#039;s better regulation (or some other solution?), everyone has to watch out for themselves when it comes to this sort of thing.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 64612" data-quote="Kevin88660" data-source="post: 1108449" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108449" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108449">Kevin88660 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> E<br /> <br /> Eli lilly growing fast at 700b market cap now.<br /> <br /> If we move into AI utopian, Nvidia and other semiconductors manufacturers will be the new big tech.<br /> <br /> If we move into big pharma dystopia, they will be the new big tech with trillion dollar companies.<br /> <br /> I am not sure yet what will happen. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Nvidia is already way beyond that. It went from $112 in 9/22 to $722 today. It&#039;s a rocket ride. 6x your money in 17 months. Their stuff for AI is in most big provider offerings. Microsoft, Google, Amazon. Lots of pharma.<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/1707782018524-webp.54210/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/50/50826-630d64e871deb65c58755e4e51394c0e.jpg?hash=2aquJLhYTW" class="bbImage " style="" alt="1707782018524.png" title="1707782018524.png" width="277" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 96450" data-quote="ZackerySprague" data-source="post: 1108485" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108485" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108485">ZackerySprague said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The cool thing that happened the other day though is that my Uncle called me asking if I knew what SaaS businesses were and I said yes.<br /> <br /> So he found a need within the Cleaning Industry where a lady named Debrah wanted to use his software that allowed them to create a tiered system for their cleaning crews to help save costs and pay the ones who work the most their proper commissions versus others who are not based on a 4-hour cleaning job. Much more detail than this.<br /> <br /> They started their business 3-4 years ago and are now a $1million dollar business (he owns a cleaning business), but he saw that he had the perfect opportunity to create a fully-fledged Micro-SaaS app for the cleaning niche. He&#039;s already got the audience, he knows what the problem is, and has a technical mind (maybe).<br /> <br /> He&#039;s been utilizing Chatgpt to create scripts, he was asking if I knew how to code in HTML or CSS. I told him I was a bit familiar, but I a learning how to code on Laracasts.com and directed him to it. Gave him some feedback on what tools and equipment the developers use at my contracted job for their application.<br /> <br /> For now, he want&#039;s to build a basic MVP, get feedback from the cleaning companies, and build out the rest. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>As a full stack engineer and ex-commercial cleaning business owner I am intrigued by what tiered can mean here.<br /> <br /> Definitely an industry where software can help a ton - business owners in the space have so much logistical problems to solve.<br /> <br /> I am working on a SAAS for the cleaning space too. Here is my thread: <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/cleaning-saas-progress-thread.112229/" class="link link--internal">SAAS / APPS - EXECUTION - Cleaning SAAS Progress Thread</a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 27710" data-quote="Boogie" data-source="post: 1108506" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1108506" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1108506">Boogie said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Nvidia is already way beyond that. It went from $112 in 9/22 to $722 today. It&#039;s a rocket ride. 6x your money in 17 months. Their stuff for AI is in most big provider offerings. Microsoft, Google, Amazon. Lots of pharma.<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/54210/" target="_blank">View attachment 54210</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Ya right now Nvidia’s CEO in brown jacket is replacing elon musk fast as the new tech hype hero.<br /> <br /> If this continues we will see hardwares companies taking over software companies and online platforms.</div>
 
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