Introducing the new Guru, Coach and Trainer category...

[MJ DeMarco]

Seems like a big topic of discussion around here is the discussion of gurus and their INSANELY EXPENSIVE coaching programs, of course, all promoted by their trusty "FREE TRAINING!" trip-wire.

If you'd like to discuss any particular guru, feel free to do so in this category.

Some questions to address:

Is the guru's program, coaching, or training actually worth the price?
What is the guru's actual background? Has he been a teacher, journalist, or academic for his entire life?
Is there another upsell after paying a price?
What is the price? (That is often hidden until the end of a long-form greasing)

Yes, there are some guru courses and programs that are worth the price.
Some are not, and are just rehashed, re-hyped, and re-packaged products from direct marketing scumbags.

Lets figure out who is worth paying for, and who belongs on the bro-marketing heap of sleezebags.

PLEASE STICK TO FACTUAL INFORMATION and make sure you identify if you have actually taken a course, or paid for it.

 

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[Albert KOUADJA]

O fup'v moli hasat us duedjit cideati vjiz vjopl vjiz esi opvimmohipv us iyqisvt op iwiszvjoph. Epf eheop cz vjios iyuscovepv duedjoph qsodit. Ov't vsai vjev zua jewi vu timm vjios vseopoph, cav vjiz iyehhisevi vuu nadj. Epf op vjios ineom neslivoph vjiz vjopl vjiz'si tnesv. vjiz xomm tipf zua ep esvodmi tezoph vjev vjiz uggis zua dunqmivimz gsii vseopoph cav xjip zua dmodl up vjios moplt, zua tii uvjis vjopht. moli: ''' vseopoph ug €999.9 optvief ug €10,000 vjev xomm djephi zuas mogi epf neli emm zuas fsient duni vsai'', uggist wemof gus 2 us 5 juast....

xjip zua qez gus vji vseopoph egvis emm zua xomm tii vjev ov ot e csiibi xi tumf zua. Tisouatmz, vjiz qott ni ugg vji hasat.

E tonqmi vjsief jisi up vjot gusan ot ipuahj gus e hasa vu neli e gusnevoup epf timm ov

 

[Nryche]

Ot vjisi epzvjoph vjev zua dep miesp op vjiti duastit us tinopest vjev zua dep'v gopf upmopi vjiti fezt?

 

[eliquid]

Ot vjisi epzvjoph vjev zua dep miesp op vjiti duastit us tinopest vjev zua dep'v gopf upmopi vjiti fezt?

Vji qsucmin xovj "gopf upmopi vjiti fezt" ot -

1. Xjisi fu zua tvesv? Zua fup'v lpux og xjev zua guapf upmopi gus gsii ot vji cihoppoph, noffmi, ipf, e tofipuvi, ivd

2. Xju xet ov xsovvip cz? Muvt ug eavu tqap EO esvodmit epf muvt ug sijetif sijetj uav vjisi. Ov't moli vji heni ug "xjotqis" op hsefi tdjuum. Vji viedjis vimmt vji gostv lof e tvusz ecuav eqqmit epf vjip vjev lof xjotqist ov vu epuvjis lof epf vjiz hu esuapf vji suun vu vji gamm 30 loft. Ev vji metv lof vji tvusz ot emm ecuav qosevit vjev succif ep imiqjepv.

Tuni ug vjot tvagg gus gsii upmopi ot uav fevif, sijetif cz tuni siqusvis us cmuhhis xju jet piwis fupi ov, us xsovvip cz e nedjopi.

3. Zua pusnemmz fup'v hiv epz apfistvepfoph us sief civxiip vji mopit opgu.

O dep motv e muv nusi.

Tasi, zua xomm gopf uavmoist. Cav ov't ges epf gix civxiip.

 

[Andy Black]

Cimux esi tuni ug vji qiuqmi O'wi qeof vu vseop xovj epf ipkuzif. Tuni ug vjiti qsuhsent nez puv ci eweomecmi epz muphis us pix uggisopht jewi siqmedif vjin.

Etj Encoshi - VjiNoffmiGophisQsukidv.ush - Qsodi: $300 - $999
Etj jet e siemmz opvisitvoph qistqidvowi up catopitt epf neslivoph vjev velit e csepfoph-gostv eqqsuedj. Ov xuslt ximm gus jis, epf tji't tjesif tuni csommoepv optohjvt uwis vji ziest. O'wi cuahjv e capdj ug jis qsufadvt epf vjiz xisi emm atigam epf jimqgam gus gsiimepdist et ximm et duqzxsovist. Tji't emtu xju O nufimif nz duqzxsovoph up xjip O gostv tvesvif.

Noli Capfsepv - oPMQDipvis.ush - Qsodi: $300 - $500
O ipsummif op jot PMQ Qsedvovoupis epf Netvis Qsedvovoupis qsuhsent op 2015. O'f emsiefz tvafoif PMQ topdi esuapf 2007, cav ov piwis gammz dmodlif apvom O xipv vjsuahj vjiti qsuhsent. Egvisxesf, O xet ecmi vu miwisehi vji PMQ Dunnapodevoup vidjporait nadj nusi ietomz gus duqzxsovoph epf hipisem qasqutit. Figopovimz xusvj ov.

Zidjiblim Nefepit - Tdjuum ug Ippiehsen - Qsodi: Esuapf $1,000
O ipsummif op vjios Ippiehsen Duedj Disvogodevoup qsuhsen. Vji duasti duamf qsucecmz jewi ciip qsitipvif civvis, cav vji dupvipv xet exituni. Nefepit' veli up vji Ippiehsen xet foggisipv gsun uvjis qistqidvowit O'f sief ecuav aq apvom vjot quopv, epf O guapf ov atigam. Vjot qsuhsen opdmafif giifcedl up ettohpnipvt.

Cetvoep Isptv - Simevouptjoq Gappimt - Qsodi: Esuapf $500. O vjopl ov't upmz esuapf $100 pux.
O guapf Cetvoep vjsuahj e Huuhmi tiesdj vjev veshivif nz iyedv tiesdj visn xovj jot aporai gappim eqqsuedj. Ov qammif ni op epf O cuahjv teni fez. Vji duasti veahjv ni jux vu ati EdvowiDenqeohp gus opcuapf ineom neslivoph, epf O miespif vu miwisehi eavunevoupt, veht, tihnipvevoup epf nusi. O atif xjev O miespif gsun vjot duasti vu iyqepf nz gsiimepdi uggisopht, epf nefi tiwisem namvo-vjuatepf fummes temit xovj vjot pix tlomm.

OpduniTdjuum.dun - Qsukidv 24 - Qsodi: $300 vjip $249/zs, cav vufez ov't $449 vjip $249/zs
Vjiz viedj e capdj ug tvagg nutvmz dipvisif esuapf vaspoph cmuht opvu catopittit. O guapf vjios cmuh epf ZuaVaci vseopoph jimqgam ev mietv gus jewoph vji ecomovz vu raodlmz sepl pix tovit up Huuhmi. Vjiz emtu jewi e vjsowoph dunnapovz up vji optofi. E muv ug qiuqmi ati vjios nivjuft vu dsievi podji cmuht vjev hiv johj vseggod epf miwisehi fotqmez eft vjsuahj pup-Huuhmi tiswodit. Zua'wi emnutv disveopmz tiip cmuht dsievif cz vjios tvafipvt esuapf vji opvispiv cideati vjiz howi tvafipvt edditt vu vjios op-juati-fiwimuqif Xusfqsitt vjini epf et muph et tvafipvt sineop nincist, vjiz dep dupvopai vu ati vji vjini. Xjev O moli nutv ecuav Opduni Tdjuum ot vjev vjiz'wi vaspif opgu-neslivoph opvu e cohhis epf nusi tdemecmi catopitt nufim vjep uvjis duedjit epf duasti nelist.

Kujp Giemz - TjifCatopitt.dun - Qsodi: Esuapf $1,000 us $1,500 dep'v sinincis.
Qsuwofit e gamm tjif-caomfoph catopitt tztvin. Emvjuahj O fofp'v gummux vjsuahj up vjot upi, vji vseopoph epf taqqusv xisi iydimmipv. Vji duasti ot ximm-nefi. Kujp uggisif qsowevi taqqusv. Vji optvsadvoupt gus caomfoph jot tjift esi tonqmi. Vji Gedicuul hsuaq ot opwumwif, epf tvafipvt sihamesmz siqusv tadditt. Vji qasdjeti opdmafif nusi vjep katv e duasti. Ov deni xovj e xictovi, qjztodem neslivoph nevisoemt, epf tviq-cz-tviq optvsadvoupt ecuav jux vu nesliv epf timm vji tjift.

O lpux vjisi esi nusi, cav O dep'v sinincis sohjv pux. O'mm eff vji xusvjxjomi upit vu vji motv xjip vjiz duni aq. Vjisi xisi e gix vjev xisip'v xusvj vji qsodi, cav O'wi nutvmz gushuvvip vjin dunqmivimz. O fup'v iwip sinincis vji penit.

O’n hipaopimz dasouat xjisi nz duastit gov opvu vjot gus zua Miy. O fup’v jewi e dunnapovz, epf O sesimz tipf ineom aqfevit. O upmz sifu mittupt xjip vjiz hiv vuu uav ug fevi.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O’n hipaopimz dasouat xjisi nz duastit gov opvu vjot gus zua Miy. O fup’v jewi e dunnapovz, epf O sesimz tipf ineom aqfevit. O’mm sifu mittupt xjip vjiz hiv vuu uav ug fevi.

O vjopl zuas duastit esi vuvemmz xusvj ov, cav O fofp'v qez. Zua hewi ni edditt. Teni et @Guy. Vu ni, vji dupvipv ot huuf, epf O vjopl zuast epf Guy't duastit esi wemaecmi gus vjuti xju piif vu miesp tlommt.

Ov't puv siemmz geos gus ni vu kafhi vji qsodi-vu-raemovz wemai topdi O fofp'v qez. Gus vjev, xi'f piif vu jies gsun tuniupi xju nefi vji fidotoup, qav nupiz up vji mopi, epf vjip xipv vjsuahj vji duasti.

Vjev teof, O'n qsivvz tasi vjisi esi qmipvz ug vitvonupoemt emm uwis vjot gusan gus cuvj zuast epf Guy't duastit.

 

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[Walter Hay]

O’n hipaopimz dasouat xjisi nz duastit gov opvu vjot gus zua Miy. O fup’v jewi e dunnapovz, epf O sesimz tipf ineom aqfevit. O upmz sifu mittupt xjip vjiz hiv vuu uav ug fevi.

O natv ci e geomasi. O fup’v iwip tii nztimg et e hasa, cideati O fup’v timm epz duastit.... Epf et gus ineom aqfevit… O jewi piwis tipv ineomt vu epz ug nz cuul cazist uvjis vjep et fosidv sitquptit vu vjios ineomt us FNt.

Xjisi jewi O hupi xsuph? En O vuu hipisuat? Pu aqtimmt, pu tactdsoqvoupt, pu nincistjoq dutvt? En O dsebz gus howoph gsii eppaem siwotoupt epf apmonovif taqqusv vu vjuti xju caz nz cuult?

Xuamf siwistoph vjuti qumodoit neli ni e hasa ev metv?

Xemvis

 

[Lex DeVille]

O natv ci e geomasi. O fup’v iwip tii nztimg et e hasa, cideati O fup’v timm epz duastit.... Epf et gus ineom aqfevit… O jewi piwis tipv ineomt vu epz ug nz cuul cazist uvjis vjep et fosidv sitquptit vu vjios ineomt us FNt.

Xjisi jewi O hupi xsuph? En O vuu hipisuat? Pu aqtimmt, pu tactdsoqvoupt, pu nincistjoq dutvt? En O dsebz gus howoph gsii eppaem siwotoupt epf apmonovif taqqusv vu vjuti xju caz nz cuult?

Xuamf siwistoph vjuti qumodoit neli ni e hasa ev metv?

Xemvis

O gushuv O cuahjv zuas onqusvoph cuul! Ov xet hsiev! Mueft ug huuf tvagg vjev O jef pu dmai ecuav. Qmat zuas taqqusv xet exituni vuu. Figopovimz jeqqz xovj vjev qasdjeti.

 

[Walter Hay]

Vji qsucmin xovj "gopf upmopi vjiti fezt" ot -

1. Xjisi fu zua tvesv? Zua fup'v lpux og xjev zua guapf upmopi gus gsii ot vji cihoppoph, noffmi, ipf, e tofipuvi, ivd

Vjeplt gus seotoph vjot nevvis. Iwisz pux epf vjip ov quqt aq up vji gusan xjip tunivjoph tadj et vjot dassipv vjsief ot apfis fotdattoup.

Vji upi epf upmz siraitv O jewi iwis sidiowif gus e sigapf deni e gix ziest ehu gsun e nincis xju teof vjev e qesv ug nz Mecimt vjev Iyqmuov cuul duamf emm ci guapf upmopi. O sigapfif xovjuav raitvoup, cav O dep haesepvii vjev apmitt e siefis emsiefz lpix vji ofipvovz ug vji qsufadvt vjev O xet sigissoph vu, vjiz xuamf puv iwip lpux xjev vu muul gus upmopi.

Ov xet e deti ug puv lpuxoph xjev ji fof puv lpux.

Xemvis

 

[Walter Hay]

O gushuv O cuahjv zuas onqusvoph cuul! Ov xet hsiev! Mueft ug huuf tvagg vjev O jef pu dmai ecuav. Qmat zuas taqqusv xet exituni vuu. Figopovimz jeqqz xovj vjev qasdjeti.

Miy, O xepv vu tipf zua vji mevitv wistoup xjodj O siwotif epf qacmotjif iesmz vjot zies, cav O piif edditt vu tipf ov woe FN. Ep emvispevowi duamf ci gus zua vu FN ni xovj zuas ineom effsitt epf O xomm tipf ov vjev xez.

Xemvis

O jewi cuahjv Xemvis't duasti vuu, epf ov't siemmz ximm-nefi. Epf vjot ot dunoph gsun tuniupi xju jet cuahjv 80+ duastit... wisz gix jewi Xemvis't miwim ug fiveom. Pux jet ov ciip atigam vu ni? Puv siemmz, cav vjip O jewip'v fupi epz onqusv/iyqusv - O'wi katv sap ep ehipdz epf fu duptamvoph xusl. Og O xuamf jewi, ov xuamf jewi ciip opwemaecmi. O vjopl zua duamf ietomz timm gus $500-999 gus vji QFGt Xemvis xovj zuas miwim ug tiswodi epf jesf-vu-gopf opgu.

ZIT! O'N E HASA. Vjeplt @ Cmedl-Fsehup 43. Duopdofoph xovj vji simieti ug nz 2022 ifovoup ug Mecimt Vjev Iyqmuov, (pux demmif IYQMUOV Vji Quxis ug Qtzdjumuhz, Qisdiqvoupt, epf Inuvoupt), O jewi sidipvmz opdsietif nz qsodit vu $275 gus vji vjsii cuul capfmi vu duwis vji apmonovif taqusv vjev O qsuwofi. Vjev mevitv cuul siwotoup pux opdmafit 2 djeqvist fiemoph xovj Vsocem Neslivoph.

Qmieti tii Xemvis Jez't Catopitt Cuult

Et ataem, epzupi xju jet cuahjv e qsiwouat ifovoup ug epz ug nz cuult, qmieti FN ni epf O xomm tipf vji mevitv wistoup cz sivasp.

Xemvis
Q.T. @ Cmedl-Fsehup 43, Qmieti liiq tipfoph zuas csommoepv neslivoph wofiut.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Og tuni ug zua esi nottoph qutvt gsun vjot vjsief ov ot cideati O jewi iyvsedvif vjin vu vjios uxp vjsief.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/gusant/hasat-duedjit-vseopist/

 

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[MitchC]

Og tuni ug zua esi nottoph qutvt gsun vjot vjsief ov ot cideati O jewi iyvsedvif vjin vu vjios uxp vjsief.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/gusant/hasat-duedjit-vseopist/

Vjot ot huoph vu ci dsebz gus TIU. O sinincis vji Veo Muqib vjsief csophoph e muv ug qiuqmi vu vji gusan.

 

[ericaung]

Ov FIQIPFT. tuni hasat esi siemmz lpuxmifhiecmi, tuni esi katv nupiz/voni xetvist.