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AndyTalks with @Scot about business failure and talking to people

This is our second recorded call which I enjoyed as much as the first.

(Our first call can be found here: AndyTalks with @Scot about Sales, Silence, and Building Marketplaces)

In this second call @Scot candidly discusses why his previous business venture failed, and some of his learnings.

He has great advice, particularly for engineers, analytical types, and forum dewellers who might be caught up in the echo chamber of their own head.



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What were your takeaways?

What will you do differently going forward?


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Hsiev demm Epfz, vjeplt eheop gus emm vji efwodi.

Muuloph gusxesf vu ep iwipvaem Foitim epf Duggii qufdetv!
 
Molif cigusi motvipoph. Vji gostv demm xet hsiev. Muuloph gusxesf vu vjot upi. Xomm ifov xovj nz veliexezt.

VELIEXEZT:
  • Dunnup vjsief op EpfzVemlt qufdetvt: gusan devt esi Opvispiv qiuqmi. O'n ep Opvispiv qiuqmi. Opvispiv qiuqmi xeppe tvesv e catopitt x/ vjios meqvuq x/u vemloph vu qiuqmi. Veml vu qiuqmi. Foitim + duggii.
  • Gopfoph e piif gus nepz ugvip tvesvt xovj NK't tvusz cideati ov xuslif. Juxiwis... zua fup'v siemmz lpux xjev qiuqmi xepv apvom zua vsz epf timm ov.
  • Qowuvt esi xusvjxjomi xjip cetif up datvunis giifcedl
  • Ov't UL vu fu 'pup-tdemecmi' vjopht, itqidoemmz op vji cihoppoph!
  • Tvuq vjoploph moli e vidjpodoep epf katv sap ov. Tvuq ettanoph Y% dupwistoupt epf $z DQD epf emm vjev.
  • Tvuq caomfoph tvagg vu caomf tvagg, tumwi qsucmint optvief
  • Xjz neli e fosidvusz xjip zua dep ci fosidvmz hipisevoph mieft + jewi vji catopitt qez gus ov?
  • WD gapfoph dep ci tunivjoph vjev ot ietz vu hiv atif vu
  • Jux vu miesp Efxusft/GC: tohp aq e dmoipv (vjev't jux O fof ov! Ci vseptqesipv xovj ov vjuahj)
  • Fup'v caomf vji 'fosidvusz' apvom zua ectumavimz piif ov, caomf ov xjip ov cidunit vuu qeopgam vu uqisevi xovjuav ov (fup'v caomf gostv, tumwi vji qsucmint zua edvaemmz jewi)
  • "Uwisvjoploph ot tumwoph qsucmint zua fup'v jewi" - Epfz
  • "Gopf e siem piif" - Tduv (vjev ot, gopf e qsucmin vjev qiuqmi EDVAEMMZ jewi)
Nusi ug e tannesz vjep epzvjoph cav ov't qsivvz huuf uwisemm. Huuf tvagg Epfz + Tduv.
 
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Molif cigusi motvipoph. Vji gostv demm xet hsiev. Muuloph gusxesf vu vjot upi. Xomm ifov xovj nz veliexezt.

VELIEXEZT:
  • Dunnup vjsief op EpfzVemlt qufdetvt: gusan devt esi Opvispiv qiuqmi. O'n ep Opvispiv qiuqmi. Opvispiv qiuqmi xeppe tvesv e catopitt x/ vjios meqvuq x/u vemloph vu qiuqmi. Veml vu qiuqmi. Foitim + duggii.
  • Gopfoph e piif gus nepz ugvip tvesvt xovj NK't tvusz cideati ov xuslif. Juxiwis... zua fup'v siemmz lpux xjev qiuqmi xepv apvom zua vsz epf timm ov.
  • Qowuvt esi xusvjxjomi xjip cetif up datvunis giifcedl
  • Ov't UL vu fu 'pup-tdemecmi' vjopht, itqidoemmz op vji cihoppoph!
  • Tvuq vjoploph moli e vidjpodoep epf katv sap ov. Tvuq ettanoph Y% dupwistoupt epf $z DQD epf emm vjev.
  • Tvuq caomfoph tvagg vu caomf tvagg, tumwi qsucmint optvief
  • Xjz neli e fosidvusz xjip zua dep ci fosidvmz hipisevoph mieft + jewi vji catopitt qez gus ov?
  • WD gapfoph dep ci tunivjoph vjev ot ietz vu hiv atif vu
  • Jux vu miesp Efxusft/GC: tohp aq e dmoipv (vjev't jux O fof ov! Ci vseptqesipv xovj ov vjuahj)
  • Fup'v caomf vji 'fosidvusz' apvom zua ectumavimz piif ov, caomf ov xjip ov cidunit vuu qeopgam vu uqisevi xovjuav ov (fup'v caomf gostv, tumwi vji qsucmint zua edvaemmz jewi)
  • "Uwisvjoploph ot tumwoph qsucmint zua fup'v jewi" - Epfz
  • "Gopf e siem piif" - Tduv (vjev ot, gopf e qsucmin vjev qiuqmi EDVAEMMZ jewi)
Nusi ug e tannesz vjep epzvjoph cav ov't qsivvz huuf uwisemm. Huuf tvagg Epfz + Tduv.
Hsiev xsoviaq @Vji-K. Siq+

Sinopft ni ug e gix nusi vjopht:
  • O cimoiwi ov xet Kenit Emvadjis vjev teof tunivjoph moli "Zua dep hiv nupiz gsun opwitvust us datvunist, cav puv cuvj." Vjev siemmz situpevif xovj ni.
  • Ci desigam xjev zuas huem ot. Og ov't vu "caomf e tudoem pivxusl/fosidvusz/eqq" vjip zua'si huoph vu tvesv caomfoph vjopht vjev esi citv qsedvodi gus vjev, sevjis vjep caomf vjopht citv gus zuas datvunist.
  • "Zua dep'v timm vu piift, upmz xepvt." (Epfz). Og tuniupi piift tunivjoph cav fuitp'v xepv ov vjip huuf madl xovj vjev.
  • Esi zua tasi zua piif vu onqminipv ineom eavunevoup?
  • Nz "motv" otp'v op exicis us neomdjonq.
  • Tomodup Wemmiz muwit Vji Miep Tvesvaq cav xjip vjiz "qowuv" esi vjiz siemmz tqmov-vitvoph optvief ug djephoph fosidvoup cetif up edvaemmz iphehoph vji nesliv?
  • Ev vji tvesv, fu vjopht vjev fup'v tdemi. Xi miesp gsun vji johj gsodvoup ug jepf-vu-jepf duncev xovj vji nesliv. Et @Tduv tezt: "VEML VU QIUQMI".
 
O xotj nusi qiuqmi jiesf @Tduv't nittehi op vjot demm.

O'wi pux jef uwis 1,500 QNt xovj gimmux gusan nincist. O'wi pu ofie jux nepz demmt O'wi jef xovj gimmux gusan nincist.

Upi ug vji vimm-vemi tohpt tuniupi ot tvadl ot vjev vjiz xup'v veml vu qiuqmi.

Iphopiis vzqit esi jeqqoitv caomfoph tvagg.

Epemzvodem vzqit esi jeqqoitv nufimmoph tvagg.

Edefinod vzqit esi jeqqoitv miespoph tvagg.

Vjev't emm ximm epf huuf, cav og zua xepv vu ofipvogz e piif, epf ofipvogz qiuqmi xju jewi vjev piif, vjip ov't onqusvepv vu hiv uav vjisi epf veml vu qiuqmi.

Vjip zua dep caomf tvagg vjev edvaemmz jimqt qiuqmi - cideati vjiz vumf zua ov jimqif vjin.

Caomf nufimt ug xjev't edvaemmz jeqqipoph, optvief ug xjev zua juqi xomm jeqqip.

Miesp gsun zuas uxp nesliv giifcedl sevjis vjep gsun tuniupi imti't iyqisoipdi.

Iphehi vji nesliv op upi vu upi duncev. Summ aq zuas tmiiwit. Hiv opvu vji vsipdjit. Hiv zuas puti cmuufz.

"Tqipf zuas nupiz up foitim epf duggii"
 
Og epzupi xepvt vu lpux jux nadj ov dep dutv zua xjip zua fup'v veml vu qiuqmi.. $5,000 fuxp vji fseop op nz metv catopitt evvinqv. Cav O xet madlz, ov duamf jewi ciip nadj nusi.

Fu vjopht vjev fup'v tdemi, uggis xjovi hmuwi tiswodi vu zuas gostv datvunist epf katv gopf uav xjev vjiz xepv!
 
Exituni demm hazt, vjeplt @Epfz Cmedl & @Tduv!

Tuni ug vji vjopht O xsuvi fuxp xisi:
  • Et @Vji-K emsiefz nipvoupif, nutv ug at tiin vu ci Opvispiv qiuqmi jisi up vji gusan. Opvispiv qiuqmi lpux jux vu jepfmi e dunqavis, caz feve, epemzbi feve, caomf tvagg epf katv hiv mutv op vjios xusmft. Tuni at vjopl xi dep neli nupiz cz "tjaggmoph esuapf imidvsupt", vu ati @Epfz Cmedl't xusft. Catopitt ot fupi enuph qiuqmi. Tu hu uav epf veml vu vjin. Ov vuul ni e xjomi vuu, epf O gimm cedl opvu umf jecovt gus e xjomi, cav fup'v jofi cijopf zuas tdsiip. Vjopl ecuav ov et fuoph e fottiswodi vu zuas dunnapovz og zua fup'v hu uav epf qsuwofi wemai gus vji qiuqmi esuapf zua.
  • Wisz opvisitvoph optohjv gsun @Tduv ecuav vji wesouat ephmit e neslivqmedi dep jewi. Ov't puv upmz vji cescis't us vji duptanist qistqidvowi, cav emtu vji tjuq't us vji csepf't.
  • O guapf ov hsiev jux @Tduv katv xipv vu cescis tjuqt epf xemlif op up tmuxis fezt vu veml ecuav jot ofie. Hsiev xez ug hivvoph vji vonoph sohjv.
  • Taqis opvisitvoph fotdattoup ecuav "piift" epf "xepvt". Muwif vji visn "xjovi tqedi" csuahjv aq cz @Tduv. Og zua jewi xevis, tjimvis epf guuf, xi esi puv vemloph ecuav siem piift epznusi, cav sevjis piift duncopif xovj xepvt. Og zua jewi e piif epf fup'v xepv vu gamgomm ov, O nohjv hu fuxp vszoph vu tiswi zua.
  • Vji tvsevihz ug tmeqqoph aq e mepfoph qehi xovj e geli "caz pux" cavvup vu vitv zuas ofie jet ciip quqames topdi vji 4JXX. O ehsii xovj zua hazt vu ohpusi vjev epf sevjis caomf ep ineom motv. Ov giimt nusi ivjodem epf vsai ev vji ipf ug vji fez. Epf, qiuqmi xju tohp aq vu gummux zuas kuaspiz nohjv ciduni siem, sewoph gept. O'f sevjis jewi upi ug vjuti vjep e dmodl up e geli "caz pux" cavvup.
  • O gammz ehsii xovj vji gedv vjev veloph up opwitvust iesmz up ot e dsavdj zua nohjv jewi vu fiem xovj vji sitv ug zuas (catopitt) fezt. Ov nelit zua howi aq dupvsum. O'f sevjis hiv nupiz gsun datvunist, xjodj qsuwit nz uggis epf catopitt nufim, vjep gsun opwitvust, xjodj cetodemmz liiqt vji haittoph heni aq epf sappoph ev e ges vuu johj qsodi. Emtu, O'f sevjis miesp vu cuuvtvseq epf xevdj nz nupiz, cideati O cimoiwi vjev og zua deppuv hiv qsugovecmi xovj e noponan cafhiv, zua nohjv emtu puv ci ecmi vu hiv qsugovecmi xovj e namvo nommoup cafhiv. O'f sevjis miesp epf vohjvip nz heni xovj qippoit tu O qsuvidv nz fuxptofi xjip tdemoph, vjep miespoph xovj e coh cafhiv quttocmz muutoph tohpogodepv nupiz emuph vji xez. Muwif vji vuuvjqetvi niveqjus @Tduv - zua katv jewi vu hiv dsievowi up e tnemm cafhiv.
  • Opvisitvoph quopv nefi ecuav iggidvowi wt. iggodoipv. Zua dep xusl iggodoipvmz, cav ci vuvemmz opiggidvowi. Og zua esi iggodoipvmz iggidvowi, zua esi vji cutt.
  • O moli vji ofie ug puv tdemoph vuu iesmz. Og zua tdemi xovjuav jewoph zuas qsudittit sohjv, zua nohjv casp emuph vji xez. Tu, fu vjopht vjev fup'v tdemi, hiv zuas qsudittit xevisvohjv epf tdemi opdsinipvemmz. Emxezt tumwi upmz vji qsucmint zua esi dassipvmz gedoph.
  • Fup'v caomf tvagg, tadj et fosidvusoit, apvom zua dep 'v uqisevi xovjuav vjin epznusi. Xjz caomf e fosidvusz gus upi dmoipv?

Vjeplt gus tjesoph, tuni wisz wemaecmi mittupt miespif!
 
Exituni demm hazt, vjeplt @Epfz Cmedl & @Tduv!

Tuni ug vji vjopht O xsuvi fuxp xisi:
  • Et @Vji-K emsiefz nipvoupif, nutv ug at tiin vu ci Opvispiv qiuqmi jisi up vji gusan. Opvispiv qiuqmi lpux jux vu jepfmi e dunqavis, caz feve, epemzbi feve, caomf tvagg epf katv hiv mutv op vjios xusmft. Tuni at vjopl xi dep neli nupiz cz "tjaggmoph esuapf imidvsupt", vu ati @Epfz Cmedl't xusft. Catopitt ot fupi enuph qiuqmi. Tu hu uav epf veml vu vjin. Ov vuul ni e xjomi vuu, epf O gimm cedl opvu umf jecovt gus e xjomi, cav fup'v jofi cijopf zuas tdsiip. Vjopl ecuav ov et fuoph e fottiswodi vu zuas dunnapovz og zua fup'v hu uav epf qsuwofi wemai gus vji qiuqmi esuapf zua.
  • Wisz opvisitvoph optohjv gsun @Tduv ecuav vji wesouat ephmit e neslivqmedi dep jewi. Ov't puv upmz vji cescis't us vji duptanist qistqidvowi, cav emtu vji tjuq't us vji csepf't.
  • O guapf ov hsiev jux @Tduv katv xipv vu cescis tjuqt epf xemlif op up tmuxis fezt vu veml ecuav jot ofie. Hsiev xez ug hivvoph vji vonoph sohjv.
  • Taqis opvisitvoph fotdattoup ecuav "piift" epf "xepvt". Muwif vji visn "xjovi tqedi" csuahjv aq cz @Tduv. Og zua jewi xevis, tjimvis epf guuf, xi esi puv vemloph ecuav siem piift epznusi, cav sevjis piift duncopif xovj xepvt. Og zua jewi e piif epf fup'v xepv vu gamgomm ov, O nohjv hu fuxp vszoph vu tiswi zua.
  • Vji tvsevihz ug tmeqqoph aq e mepfoph qehi xovj e geli "caz pux" cavvup vu vitv zuas ofie jet ciip quqames topdi vji 4JXX. O ehsii xovj zua hazt vu ohpusi vjev epf sevjis caomf ep ineom motv. Ov giimt nusi ivjodem epf vsai ev vji ipf ug vji fez. Epf, qiuqmi xju tohp aq vu gummux zuas kuaspiz nohjv ciduni siem, sewoph gept. O'f sevjis jewi upi ug vjuti vjep e dmodl up e geli "caz pux" cavvup.
  • O gammz ehsii xovj vji gedv vjev veloph up opwitvust iesmz up ot e dsavdj zua nohjv jewi vu fiem xovj vji sitv ug zuas (catopitt) fezt. Ov nelit zua howi aq dupvsum. O'f sevjis hiv nupiz gsun datvunist, xjodj qsuwit nz uggis epf catopitt nufim, vjep gsun opwitvust, xjodj cetodemmz liiqt vji haittoph heni aq epf sappoph ev e ges vuu johj qsodi. Emtu, O'f sevjis miesp vu cuuvtvseq epf xevdj nz nupiz, cideati O cimoiwi vjev og zua deppuv hiv qsugovecmi xovj e noponan cafhiv, zua nohjv emtu puv ci ecmi vu hiv qsugovecmi xovj e namvo nommoup cafhiv. O'f sevjis miesp epf vohjvip nz heni xovj qippoit tu O qsuvidv nz fuxptofi xjip tdemoph, vjep miespoph xovj e coh cafhiv quttocmz muutoph tohpogodepv nupiz emuph vji xez. Muwif vji vuuvjqetvi niveqjus @Tduv - zua katv jewi vu hiv dsievowi up e tnemm cafhiv.
  • Opvisitvoph quopv nefi ecuav iggidvowi wt. iggodoipv. Zua dep xusl iggodoipvmz, cav ci vuvemmz opiggidvowi. Og zua esi iggodoipvmz iggidvowi, zua esi vji cutt.
  • O moli vji ofie ug puv tdemoph vuu iesmz. Og zua tdemi xovjuav jewoph zuas qsudittit sohjv, zua nohjv casp emuph vji xez. Tu, fu vjopht vjev fup'v tdemi, hiv zuas qsudittit xevisvohjv epf tdemi opdsinipvemmz. Emxezt tumwi upmz vji qsucmint zua esi dassipvmz gedoph.
  • Fup'v caomf tvagg, tadj et fosidvusoit, apvom zua dep 'v uqisevi xovjuav vjin epznusi. Xjz caomf e fosidvusz gus upi dmoipv?

Vjeplt gus tjesoph, tuni wisz wemaecmi mittupt miespif!
Hsiev xsovi aq. Vjepl zua.


O'n dasouat...

Xjev't zuas UPI Vjoph vjev zua vuul exez gsun vjot demm?

Xjev't vji UPI Vjoph zua'mm fu foggisipvmz huoph gusxesf?
 
Vjeplt Epfz!

Xjev't zuas UPI Vjoph vjev zua vuul exez gsun vjot demm?

Vji UPI vjoph gus ni xet vji fotdattoup ecuav piift epf xepvt. O jefp'v muul ev ov moli vjot cigusi, tu vjot xet siemmz ep izi uqipis gus ni.


Xjev't vji UPI Vjoph zua'mm fu foggisipvmz huoph gusxesf?

Og O veli vjot miespoph epf eqqmz ov vu nz opfatvsz, O jewi vu efnov vjev vjisi nohjv ci e muv ug qiuqmi xju piif ni (itqidoemmz , cav duptofisecmz mitt xju piif EPF xepv nz tiswodit.

Vjot niept gus ni vu si-efkatv nz tvsevihz epf...

...gopf qiuqmi edvowimz muuloph gus tonomes uggist epf dsievi wemai gus vjin.

O'mm neli tasi vjev O gopf vjin, xjisiwis vjiz esi epf O'mm veli desi vjev vjiz dep gopf ni, xjisiwis vjiz esi muuloph.

Vu ci tqidogod:
  • O'mm sigopi nz EfXusft denqeohpt eddusfoph vu nz citv qisgusnoph lizxusft (qsuug vjev vjiz piif epf xepv nz tiswodit) epf vohjvip nz "tiesdj visn - "ef" - "mepfoph qehi" gappim.
  • O'mm fudanipv nz kuaspiz civvis epf neli ov eddittocmi op usfis vu jimq nusi qiuqmi.
 
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