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An old shipmate that used to work for me just posted this on FB...

"So, you know the old adage, "Good things come to those who wait"? Well, to that my Mother would tack on two words, "and PRAY".

So, we waited and prayed and today I found out that I got the promotion I worked so hard for.

I am officially an Electronics Mechanic.

Thank you to everyone that supported me and helped me along the way and prayed."

I almost cried.
 
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An old shipmate that used to work for me just posted this on FB...

"So, you know the old adage, "Good things come to those who wait"? Well, to that my Mother would tack on two words, "and PRAY".

So, we waited and prayed and today I found out that I got the promotion I worked so hard for.

I am officially an Electronics Mechanic.

Thank you to everyone that supported me and helped me along the way and prayed."

I almost cried.

Ouch.
 

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An old shipmate that used to work for me just posted this on FB...

"So, you know the old adage, "Good things come to those who wait"? Well, to that my Mother would tack on two words, "and PRAY".

So, we waited and prayed and today I found out that I got the promotion I worked so hard for.

I am officially an Electronics Mechanic.

Thank you to everyone that supported me and helped me along the way and prayed."

I almost cried.
I guess he's not in his mid twenties getting up the first few rungs of the ladder?
 

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An old shipmate that used to work for me just posted this on FB...

"So, you know the old adage, "Good things come to those who wait"? Well, to that my Mother would tack on two words, "and PRAY".

So, we waited and prayed and today I found out that I got the promotion I worked so hard for.

I am officially an Electronics Mechanic.

Thank you to everyone that supported me and helped me along the way and prayed."

I almost cried.

This coincides with a post I saw on linkedin the other day (I log on once a year or so). It was from an old coworker at a Canadian telecommunications company (Rogers). "Wow 10 yrs with Rogers. I am so fortunate to have been given the opportunity to work with such a diverse enviornment. My Rogers family is second to none. Cheers to 30 more! #ibleedred"

Those were the exact works. The hashtag represents the logo/brand color of Rogers which is red. I cringed when I read it and still cringe while re-reading it again today. This is SAD!
 

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It hurts "us" because we do not identify with this.

However, if he is happy with his life, why should we care? I would give him congratulations. His version of freedom is not ours. His pursuit of happiness is obviously not ours.
 

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So what? He's happy isn't he?

You ever waited and prayed for something so long, went through all sorts of BS, trials, and tribulations, and then felt the joy and momentary ecstasy of having that thing finally arrive into your life?

I mean shit, I understand its the Fastlane forum but not everyone has the same goals, visions, and conceptions of happiness.

And by the way, society needs janitors, grocery store workers, mechanics, etc.

They have every bit of an important role in this world as we do.

God bless you all and may all your wishes and dreams be fulfilled.
 

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No matter how we twist it, he's probably not happy most of the time because of, you know, the stuff we have all dealt with.

No matter how we twist it, there is a 99% chance that he's gonna regret it in a couple of decades.

But then again, what does it matter?

It doesn't.

We're simply reinforcing our position because you have no idea how strong the force that has binded him has.

We often need to be reminded more than instructed.
 
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No matter how we twist it, he's probably not happy most of the time because of, you know, the stuff we have all dealt with.

No matter how we twist it, there is a 99% chance that he's gonna regret it in a couple of decades.

But then again, what does it matter?

It doesn't.

We're simply reinforcing our position because you have no idea how strong the force that has binded him has.

We often need to be reminded more than instructed.

I respectfully disagree.

You're projecting your own perceptions of happiness and success onto people you don't know or haven't even met.

He's gonna regret it based on what evidence? Based on the fact that if you were in his position you'd regret it?

Everyone views the world in different ways.

Imagine someone coming up to you and saying being an entrepreneur is stupid, you need to grow up and get a job, you're gonna regret it ten years from now, etc. How would you feel?

Let other people live man lol
 

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Everyone views the world in different ways.

Imagine someone coming up to you and saying being an entrepreneur is stupid, you need to grow up and get a job, you're gonna regret it ten years from now, etc. How would you feel?

Let other people live man lol

Lol. It's funny because I am not disagreeing with you. In fact, I espouse the same philosophy.

As i've already said. It doesn't matter to me. I have my own life to deal with.

You have no idea how many times people here have heard the same message. And tell you what, it doesn't even register.

It looks like you still have scripted residue. Or are totally new.

You assumed that I was lowballing this guy. Jon was. Not me. :)

The irony in your post is that we actually want him to live.

Let other people live bro and let other people post what they want to post. Haha :)
 

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It hurts "us" because we do not identify with this.

However, if he is happy with his life, why should we care? I would give him congratulations. His version of freedom is not ours. His pursuit of happiness is obviously not ours.

This is something I've been thinking about lately. If they are truly happy, then yes, who are we to judge, as our values are obviously different than theirs.

But then I also wonder whether many people like that just don't realize that they CAN do much better if they were to raise their standards. If they truly adopted the belief that they can do anything, would they still claim to be happy at that point, doing what they are doing now, or are they happy now because of their ignorance of what is possible for them?

Are their limiting beliefs keeping them ignorantly happy, like those living in the Matrix? Once you find out you're living in a dream world, how many would still be happy living in it?
 
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It hurts "us" because we do not identify with this.

However, if he is happy with his life, why should we care? I would give him congratulations. His version of freedom is not ours. His pursuit of happiness is obviously not ours.

It's very true. Just because many on this forum want to own a Lambo doesn't mean everyone does.

Just like I don't blame video games, but most guys my age spend hours a day and that makes them happy.

According to one study, billionaires and Amish people are equally happy. Who are we to judge what makes them happy?
On the same note...was this particular dude unhappy before and now is happy with his promotion? Most likely, he won't be happy later on. I base that off the word "promotion." He must've already been in this line of work. If he was happy before, he'll probably still be happy.

But, like golden handcuffs prove in the corporate world, a promotion only brings quick bursts of happiness before you're back to how you started.
 

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He's gonna regret it based on what evidence?

He's gonna regret it based on the evidence that he would react to this thread the same way you did. An emotionally influenced reaction. When something hits home, people get angry.

It's a fact by first-hand, second-hand and third-hand experience that you won't live a FREE life working the 9-5. People are not happy when they are not free. You won't be happy if I say you're not allowed to post anymore because you don't agree with me. You'd be mad. These people are mad. Angry. But they are not gonna do anything about it until they can't take it anymore.

Even if it was just for the freedom of action and not the money, we would still choose the entrepreneurial path.

It's a GLARING FACT that you are trading YOUR TIME, YOUR LIFE for money that does not equal your true capability.

It's a fact that people don't want to do it and are forced to via subtle systemic manipulation.

It's a fact that most people RATIONALIZE their suffering instead of facing the truth.

Dude, we live for less than a hundred years.

This is a COLD FACT that many of us seem to forget.

I don't know about you. But I choose FACTS over Rationalizations.
 
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He's gonna regret it based on the evidence that he would react to this thread the same way you did. An emotionally influenced reaction. When something hits home, people get angry.

It's a fact by first-hand, second-hand and third-hand experience that you won't live a FREE life working the 9-5. Even if it was just for the freedom of action and not the money, we would still choose the entrepreneurial path.

It's a GLARING FACT that you are trading YOUR TIME, YOUR LIFE for money that does not equal your true capability.

It's a fact that people don't want to do it and are forced to via subtle systemic manipulation.

It's a fact that most people RATIONALIZE their suffering instead of facing the truth.

Dude, we live for less than a hundred years.

This is a COLD FACT that many of us seem to forget.

I don't know about you. But I choose FACTS over Rationalizations.

I think you are wrong here. How do we or you know that he is going to regret it? There are people who look at us and cringe or get scared because we live this risky, unstable, up and down life. They don't envy us. They like their job. They like to go home at 5 and not think about work until 9 the next day.

I don't think you are saying the same thing as others on this thread at all. You are projecting your desires and emotions into his life. We don't know what he thinks or what his dreams are.
 

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I think you are wrong here. How do we or you know that he is going to regret it? There are people who look at us and cringe or get scared because we live this risky, unstable, up and down life. They don't envy us. They like their job. They like to go home at 5 and not think about work until 9 the next day.

I don't think you are saying the same thing as others on this thread at all. You are projecting your desires and emotions into his life. We don't know what he thinks or what his dreams are.

Maybe I am projecting. But the point is not me being right. It's not about me.

He obviously would. He's damn well scripted. And he would probably never understand what I mean. Too bad.
 
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So what? He's happy isn't he?

You ever waited and prayed for something so long, went through all sorts of BS, trials, and tribulations, and then felt the joy and momentary ecstasy of having that thing finally arrive into your life?

I mean shit, I understand its the Fastlane forum but not everyone has the same goals, visions, and conceptions of happiness.

And by the way, society needs janitors, grocery store workers, mechanics, etc.

They have every bit of an important role in this world as we do.

God bless you all and may all your wishes and dreams be fulfilled.

Some of us toilet cleaners did good. :) Funny thing.... I never did have a problem cleaning a toilet and still don't. I clean our house, we don't have a cleaner; which is ironic I think.

No matter if I am at a store or cafe or where ever, I ALWAYS let the workers know how thankful I am that they choose to work there. I know I could never be a cashier or waiter or construction worker so if not for those people.... how could I live so well? I wouldn't know the first thing about working in a factory or any place honestly. How weird would it be to have to clock in at the start of your day and clock out at the end? And to have to be some place like that for 8+ hours every day?? I'm amazed they can do it! I know I sure am thankful for this guy and all the worker bee's in the world.
 

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Maybe I am projecting. But the point is not me being right. It's not about me.

He obviously would. He's damn well scripted. And he would probably never understand what I mean. Too bad.

I've found that I do that sometimes, so it is easy to spot. For example, if you walk into a Walmart and a 80 year old greeter says "Hi, Welcome to Walmart". You can think a variety of things, like, "Damn, that's so sad that at 80, she needs to still go to work.", When in reality, she is a retired multi-millionaire that is bored sitting at home all day so she has this job so she can talk to people.

So basically I was thinking, there's no way I want to be working at Walmart at 80. So seeing someone else working at Walmart at 80 is bad. But it really just meant that it would be bad for me.
 

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An old shipmate that used to work for me just posted this on FB...

"So, you know the old adage, "Good things come to those who wait"? Well, to that my Mother would tack on two words, "and PRAY".

So, we waited and prayed and today I found out that I got the promotion I worked so hard for.

I am officially an Electronics Mechanic.

Thank you to everyone that supported me and helped me along the way and prayed."

I almost cried.

One day I want to employ someone like this, many times over.
 
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I've found that I do that sometimes, so it is easy to spot. For example, if you walk into a Walmart and a 80 year old greeter says "Hi, Welcome to Walmart". You can think a variety of things, like, "Damn, that's so sad that at 80, she needs to still go to work.", When in reality, she is a retired multi-millionaire that is bored sitting at home all day so she has this job so she can talk to people.

So basically I was thinking, there's no way I want to be working at Walmart at 80. So seeing someone else working at Walmart at 80 is bad. But it really just meant that it would be bad for me.

Excellent point. I am in no way judging this guy in a bad way, since I myself have written about surface level appearance versus context.

Similar to how you thought I was projecting, (it's not easy to communicate everything at once) there is another context for where I was coming from. Which is, I managed to get the mindset down cold and now instantly spot when someone doesn't have it. No judgements or anything ill intended.
 

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Hehe what I meant was, society is obviously not perfect and everyone has to find their place. So this "perfect world" is not coming anytime soon, so for now, like the guy who would use facts (there are people that would work for decades in a company) for profit, I just said that we work with facts instead of the usual run of the mill philosophy you heard from the neighborhood.

That, however borders on conflicted philosophies since entrepreneurs think differently from employees and the issue of helping another person to "switch" to unscripted philosophy (like what MJ is doing with his books) or not, is there.
 

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I understand the post. It is actually very interesting to think about just how happy some people are living the scripted life.

On the other hand as an entrepreneur I have days that I lose 5 grand in business and think "sometimes I wish I could just come home, turn my brain off for the night and not constantly be planning my next move."

We may just be wired differently than 9-5ers but being an entrepreneur is by no means easy all the time and I can see the appeal for certain people/personality types to just get a Cushy job with medical insurance and a good 401k and ride it out. I'd rather blow my head off personally but not everyone can handle the rollercoaster of emotions that entrepreneurs experience and the constant uncertainty owning your own business can create especially early on.
 

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It's the wait and pray part I find sad.
 
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This thread devolved in people saying all the same thing: "I would blow my brains out, but, ehm, if he's happy we should not judge".
It's cognitive dissonance. You view the world in a way, but you are constantly subjected to a completely different POV (you know, slowlaners). And solving that dissonance requires hamstering a little around things to accept that both things are OK, all the while being horrified at the same time at the idea of that kind of life.

Do yourselves a favor and stop. You don't need to account for every possible view of life. There is no objective reality - we are all living a fantasy, walking around with projectors in our eyes. And in our reality, that kind of life is just horrible. That's fine. He wouldn't agree. That's fine too.

That said - we all know on Monday morning at 3:00 he's going to curse the job, the life, and everything else.
A promotion is an event, and that's cool. Monday to Friday is a slog of pain anyway - slowlaners are hardly consistently happy.
What matters is not events, but the consistency of happiness around the clock.
 

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But then I also wonder whether many people like that just don't realize that they CAN do much better if they were to raise their standards. If they truly adopted the belief that they can do anything, would they still claim to be happy at that point, doing what they are doing now, or are they happy now because of their ignorance of what is possible for them?
I think this is the case many times. I get frustrated, irritated, and been losing patience lately, and keep it to myself, but frankly when I'm educated and out of the fog and have the fastlane mentality, others around me are oblivious, they honestly believe they're stuck with what they've been given, don't believe they have the intelligence, they can't educate themselves, keep a closed mind, stay narrow minded, and limit themselves. They want to enjoy pleasure, entertainment, drugs, alcohol, and have a good time. And then they complain why they're life doesn't change. If I say anything, they think I'm trying to control them because I'm a women. I don't know what I'm talking about. Sometimes I polarize them and give them hints, but then they get rebellious. When your mindset, values, morals, are different it's friction.
Happiness equals a pacifier for some. Give them what they want, or they have a tantrum fit, because they don't want to think, deal with life, or take action. The universe it diverse. And then people keep arguing, not everyone thinks that way and don't understand for Entrepreneurship, you have to have a niche, category, and there's no way to please everyone in the world. lol
I would say they have their unique happiness. I notice sensors who aren't educated and conscious seem to have the most difficult time. They get stuck in the logical and practical. I don't mean that to offend anyone, but there are just some sensors who are unaware of things around me, and they're totally oblivious. They miss opportunities. It's just something I noticed.
 

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