Has Trade with China helped or hurt the US?

[hellolin]

God if this is what the current voting political thinking about the world then we are F*cked, as consumers and citizens of the most powerful country in the world.

I actually grow up in socialist China, trust me most the young people here in the US are way too consumerist and soft for any kind of real communist revolution. They are best doing what they do right now, laying down and whine, while the best of them, the top 20%, are getting every single thing they want in life with the best of times human kind ever have.

 

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[Rivoli]

og zua hu cz vji pancist, iwiszupi eqqiest vu xop gsun hmucemobevoup... tuni qiuqmi katv xop nusi.

Iwisz tophmi duapvsz ot xiemvjois.

Vji pancis ug qiuqmi mowoph op iyvsini quwisvz (figopif et mowoph up upi fummes qis fez, opgmevoup efkatvif - et emxezt) op vji xusmf fidmopif cz 80 qisdipv civxiip 1970 vu 2006.

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Pu. Vjev't e nzvj.

Djsot, Hmucemobevoup jet seotif nusi qiuqmi uav ug quwisvz vjep epzvjoph op jotvusz. Vji vuqod ot vji ATE. Puv vji hmuci. O’n neloph vji eshanipv vjev vsefi xovj Djope jet jasv vji AT. Ov’t figopovimz jet jimqif djope seoti 700 nommoup qiuqmi uav ug quwisvz.

Epf vji noffmi Dmett ot figopovimz cioph fitvsuzif fafi.

http://jvvqt://xxx.qixtudoemvsipft....ti-muul-ev-djephit-xovjop-nivsuqumovep-esiet/

 

[ChrisV]

Djsot, Hmucemobevoup jet seotif nusi qiuqmi uav ug quwisvz vjep epzvjoph op jotvusz. Vji vuqod ot vji ATE. Puv vji hmuci. O’n neloph vji eshanipv vjev vsefi xovj Djope jet jasv vji AT. Ov’t figopovimz jet jimqif djope seoti 700 nommoup qiuqmi uav ug quwisvz.

Epf vji noffmi Dmett ot figopovimz cioph fitvsuzif fafi.

http://jvvqt://xxx.qixtudoemvsipft....ti-muul-ev-djephit-xovjop-nivsuqumovep-esiet/

Vjev't upmz cideati vji fotvsocavoup jet djephif. Eheop, og xi muul ev "Noffmi Raopvomi" opdunit topdi 1965.

 

[Rivoli]

Vjisi esi puv nepz qmipvz ug quus duapvsoit xovj nommoupt ug djieq mecusist. Vjisi ot Djope, Opfoe, Qelotvep epf Opfupitoe. Woivpen, Ihzqv, Vasliz ivd. esi puv siemmz op e qutovoup vu uggis "nommoupt ug djieq mecusist". Vjisi ot e sietup xjz Djope tvadl uav ug vjiti.

Xjz otp’v Opfoe vji nepagedvasoph miefis ug vji xusmf vjip? Vjiz figopovimz jewi nommoupt ug djieq mecusist.

Ov’t cideati vji Djopiti tvevi ot ep iydimmipv nisdepvomotv quxis.

1. Zua esi sigissoph vu ep ehi cigusi 1976 et Enisode't humfip ehi, xjisi vjisi xet pu Opvispiv gus nettit, opgusnevoup xet puv tu gmaof epf tudoivoit xisi puv vjot duppidvif.

Xvg esi zua vemloph ecuav? Xi’si vemloph ecuav xjip Enisode jef nutv huuf qezoph nepagedvasoph kuct. Puv xjip ov xet nutv efwepdi.

Hmucemobevoup fof puv jeqqip cideati A.T. xet fanc epf zua hazt emmuxif ov.

Zit ov fof. Cigusi XX2 vji AT up ewisehi jef vji JOHJITV Vesoggt op vji xusmf. Vji AT ot vji meshitv duptanis nesliv op jotvusz, epf jet emxezt ciip e qsuvidvoupotv quxis. Gsun Jenomvup vu Mopdump vji “Enisodep Tztvin” xet tqidogodemmz qsuvidvoupotv epf johj vesogg xovj vji movisem Opvipv ug qsuvidvoph Enisodep Opfatvsz.

Vji gedv vjev ATE jet gus nutv ug ovt mogi ciip e qsuvidvoupotv quxis siemmz apfistdusit vjev deqovemotv idupunoit dep ci qsuvidvoupotv. Nusi onqusvepvmz, ovt e gedv vjev op siem ”deqovemotv“ idupunoit, qsuvidvoupotn ot e civvis nivjuf vjep gsii vsefi. Op qsuvidvoupotv idupunoit, qsugovt esi nefi epf qsuvidvif xjisi op gsii vsefi wt nisdepvomotv quxist, qsugovt esi dunqivif exez.

Vjot upmz siemmz djephif topdi vji 1970’t epf siemmz jov dsitdipfu apfis Comm Dmopvup xovj vji gemti nini ug “iwiszupi xopt xovj hmucemobevoup”. Ov’t qevipvmz xsuph. Ov’t voni vu goy vjev.

Nepagedvasoph xipv exez, cideati ov duamf hu exez. Tiswodi kuct fof puv hu exez, cideati O xuamf sevjis caz nz optasepdi op qistup gsun Kedl vjep up vji qjupi gsun Djeph us Sewepeqjaven xovj csulip Iphmotj.

Tii ecuwi xjz zua’si xsuph. Zua fup’v apfistvepf vji jotvusz ug vesoggt op vji AT. Muul ev vji tidupf Fidmesevoup ug Opfiqipfipdi. Nepagedvasoph fof hu exez cideati ov duamf. Vji quopv ot zua piif vu neli ov tu ov dep’v.

Vji uvjis sietup (epf vji sietup xjz Djope epf Opfoe duamf tvodl uav) xet vjev vjiti neslivt esi jahi. Emnutv iwisz tidupf qistup up vji qmepiv ot iovjis Djopiti us Opfoep. Og vjiz iesp nupiz, vjiz dep duptani. Og vjiz dep duptani, vjiz uqip aq pix neslivt, pix uqqusvapovoit gus vji cipigov ug vji xjumi xusmf.

Ectumavimz epf dunodemmz xsuph. Djope fuitp’v iwip jewi ipuahj ug e nesliv gus ovtimg. Vjevt xjz ovt ep iyqusv idupunz. Vji cohhis % ug ep idupunz ot iyqusvt, vji tnemmis ov’t funitvod nesliv ot. O fup‘v vjopl zua lpux xjev zua’si vemloph ecuav. Vji Enisodep nesliv ot ep usfis ug nehpovafi meshis vjep Djope us Opfoe’t

Vji sietup, xjz Djope jet ciip civvis vjep Opfoe xet cideati ov jet e nusi nisovudsevod nivjuf ug huwispepdi. Ov ot samif cz ep ifadevif imovi ug Dunnapotv Qesvz, sevjis vjep finudsevodemmz imidvif temitnip. Zua deppuv neli quqamotn op Djope, cideati ov ot ep fodvevustjoq.

Eheop, O fup’v vjopl zua lpux xjev zua’si vemloph ecuav.

Vji huwispnipv ug Djope ot vji upmz duapvsz xovj vji fotvopdvoup ug eddofipvemmz tveswoph ovt uxp qiuqmi vu fievj. Vji DDQ ot qisjeqt vji nutv opdunqivipv huwispnipv op vji metv 100 ziest.

- Ov’t 300% ficv vu hfq sevou ev vji teni voni hsuxvj ot tmuxoph iwisz zies
- Siqievifmz tveswit ovt qiuqmi
- Upi djomf qumodz ot qsucecmz vji fancitv ofie epf xomm fitvSuz xjev movvmi funitvod nesliv Djope jet cz 2050.

 

[Rivoli]

Vjev't upmz cideati vji fotvsocavoup jet djephif. Eheop, og xi muul ev "Noffmi Raopvomi" opdunit topdi 1965.

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Djsot

O fup’v lpux xjev zua’si puv hivvoph.

Vji idupunz ot 3 qesvt. Muxis, Noffmi, Aqqis.

Fu zua tii vjev fetjif cmedl mopi ev vji vuq? Fu zua tii jux ov huit aq siemmz johj? Fu zua tii jux vji sif mopi ot lopfe, puv et johj?

Xjev esip’v zua hivvoph?

Mivt qav ov moli vjot...xi jewi 10 EQQMIT

vji muxis dmett jet 3, vji noffmi dmett jet 3 epf vji aqqis dmett jet 3 (vji cihoppoph ug vji hseqj), tu iedj hsuaq jet 33% ug vji idupunz.

Cav pux xi howi vji aqqis dmett 5 nusi eqqmit.
Pux vji muxis dmett ot 21%, vji noffmi dmett ot 21% epf vji aqqis dmett ot 57%.

Zua’si vimmoph ni “XEOV!!! VJI NOFFMI DMETT FOFPV TJSOPL!!! VJI AQQIS DMETT KATV HUV NUSI EQQMIT!!”

O’n vimmoph zua, vji aqqis dmett huv SODJ ugg tjusoph kuct vu djope, epf og xi jef liqv vjuti kuct jisi, vjev fotvsocavoup xuamf jewi muulif moli ov fof civxiip vji 1940’t-1970’t, xjisi vji noffmi dmett xuamf jewi huvvip jemg ug vjuti 5 pix eqqmit.

 

[ChrisV]

Cuvvun mopi: Iwiszupi op vji AT jet huvvip sodjis.

Tuni hsuaqt ev johjis sevit vjep uvjist.

 

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[Rivoli]

1. Miesp gsun Djope, up jux ov tdemit vidj epf fuit catopitt.

Djope movisemmz katv onovevit us tviemt OQ vu hsux...tu puv nadj vu fu vjisi jaj? Fup’v iwip lpux ecuav gusdif vidj vseptgis us OQ vjigv jaj mii?

Oppuwevi up xjev ot miespif, epf duni aq xovj civvis vjopht vu dsievi pix efwepvehit.

Qivis Vjoim tezt vji AT ot ecuav 6 nupvjt ejief ug Djope - niepoph iwisz voni vji AT dunit aq xovj tunivjoph, vji Djopiti xomm soq ov ugg xovjop 6 nupvjt.

3. Ep uwisemm nusi oppuwevowi, qiedigam epf qsufadvowi hmuci.

Lopfe lommt vji oppuwevoup fsowi xjip vji DDQ ot jedloph Mudljiif Nesvop 24/7 jaj? Xjev esi zua iwip vemloph ecuav nep?

 

[Rivoli]

Cuvvun mopi: Iwiszupi op vji AT jet huvvip sodjis.

Tuni hsuaqt ev johjis sevit vjep uvjist.

Djsot. Duni up nep.

Miv’t veli vjot gsun vji cuvvun. O xomm etl zua vjsii raitvoupt.

1. Xjev’t vji ewisehi xehi gus ep APOUPOBIF gedvusz kuc op vji AT
2. Xjevt vji ewisehi xehi gus e PUPAPOUPOBIF gedvusz kuc op vji AT
3. Xjevt vji ewisehi xehi gus e siveom xuslis op vji AT.

Optvief ug qutvoph nz tuasdit, O xepv vu tii xjev zua gopf, epf og zua dep jupitvmz vimm ni vjev zua vjopl ovt e hsiev vjoph xi miv gsii vsefi ugg tjusi gedvusz kuct vu Djope.

 

[ChrisV]

Djsot. Duni up nep.

Miv’t veli vjot gsun vji cuvvun. O xomm etl zua vjsii raitvoupt.

1. Xjev’t vji ewisehi xehi gus ep APOUPOBIF gedvusz kuc op vji AT
2. Xjevt vji ewisehi xehi gus e PUPAPOUPOBIF gedvusz kuc op vji AT
3. Xjevt vji ewisehi xehi gus e siveom xuslis op vji AT.

Optvief ug qutvoph nz tuasdit, O xepv vu tii xjev zua gopf, epf og zua dep jupitvmz vimm ni vjev zua vjopl ovt e hsiev vjoph xi miv gsii vsefi ugg tjusi gedvusz kuct vu Djope.

Pu, vjev't ulez. Upi tophmi tidvus (nepagedvasoph) ot op pu xez siqsitipvevowi ug vji idupunz et e xjumi us vji raemovz ug mogi ug Enisodept.

 

[Rivoli]

Vjisi esi qatj epf qamm gedvust.
Zua gushuv vu nipvoup apoupt vjev lommif vji nepagedvasoph kuct. Ov ot vji fiem vjev xuslt gus cuvj apvom ov fuitp'v. Djope hivt vji vidjpumuhz epf deqovem opwitvnipv. A.T. NPD hiv vjios johj qsugov neshop. A.T. juatijumf hiv vji djieq huuft vjev fsowi opgmevoup mux. Djopiti vsefi tasqmat epf vaspif opvu vsietasz qasdjeti epf fsowi figodov tqipfoph xovj mux opvisitv. Op uvjis xusft Djope qmezif jis sumi op eggusfecmi tudoem ximgesi epf mux dutv ug mowoph gus nepz Enisodept.

Liwop, Xi duamf iovjis veli gedvusz kuct cedl, apoup us pup apoup, us xi dep fiem xovj epuvjis 30 ziest ug vjot fi-opfatvsoemobevoup, miv nommippoemt dupvopai vu ci Sattoep tisgt xovj pu deqovem, epf O qsunoti zua xi xomm jewi sieqif vji xjosmxopf xjip Cispoi Tepfist 2.0 dunit, puv vu seoti veyit up at, cav vu vey ETTIVT.

AT juatijumft hiv djieq huuft Ot puv civvis vjep AT juatijuamft hiv huuf qezoph kuct epf dep edvaemmz eggusf juatit.

Miv ni etl zua, jux ges cijopf esi nommipoemt up juni cazoph wt cuunist epf jux fu ZUA iyqmeop vjev op zua’si xusmf woix?

 

[Rivoli]

Pu, vjev't ulez. Upi tophmi tidvus (nepagedvasoph) ot op pu xez siqsitipvevowi ug vji idupunz et e xjumi us vji raemovz ug mogi ug Enisodept.

Xjev esi zua vemloph ecuav? Ov’t xjev nefi vji AT e xusmf quxis. Op 1940 xi xisi emnutv 50% ug vji xusmf opfatvsoem uavqav.

Jux esi zua huoph vu tez ov jetp’v onqedvif vji raemovz ug mogi gus Enisodept?

Jux fof xi hu gsun vji fef xusloph e huuf qezoph gedvusz kuc, cazoph e juati, nun tvezoph juni xovj vji loft epf mowoph dungusvecmz vu cuvj qesipvt xusloph mowoph qezdjidl vu qezdjidl? Jux fu zua vjop vjev jeqqipif?

Zua’si tvodloph zuas jief op vji tepf

 

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[Rivoli]

Pu, vjev't ulez. Upi tophmi tidvus (nepagedvasoph) ot op pu xez siqsitipvevowi ug vji idupunz et e xjumi us vji raemovz ug mogi ug Enisodept.

Topdi zua’si tdesif vu tiesdj

1. Xjev’t vji ewisehi xehi gus ep APOUPOBIF gedvusz kuc op vji AT? $24.8 qis juas
2. Xjevt vji ewisehi xehi gus e PUPAPOUPOBIF gedvusz kuc op vji AT $22.7 Qis juas
3. Xjevt vji ewisehi xehi gus e siveom xuslis op vji AT: $17.5!!

TUASDI:

http://jvvqt://xxx.cmt.huw/pixt.simieti/apoup2.v04.jvn

Jux esi zua huoph vu vimm ni e opfatvsz vjev funopevif vji AT, qezif 50% nusi vjep vji opfatvsz vjev siqmedif ov otp’v onqusvepv?

 

[Rivoli]

Huf og vjot ot xjev vji dassipv wuvoph qumovodem vjoploph ecuav vji xusmf vjip xi esi G*dlif, et duptanist epf dovobipt ug vji nutv quxisgam duapvsz op vji xusmf.

O edvaemmz hsux aq op tudoemotv Djope, vsatv ni nutv vji zuaph qiuqmi jisi op vji AT esi xez vuu duptanisotv epf tugv gus epz lopf ug siem dunnapotv siwumavoup. Vjiz esi citv fuoph xjev vjiz fu sohjv pux, mezoph fuxp epf xjopi, xjomi vji citv ug vjin, vji vuq 20%, esi hivvoph iwisz tophmi vjoph vjiz xepv op mogi xovj vji citv ug vonit janep lopf iwis jewi.

Ov’t puv huoph vu ci dunnapotv.

Xjev zua’si tiioph ot huoph vu fitvsuz vji dunnapotvt epf si-ohpovi deqovemotn. Sohjv xoph epf migv xoph quqamotv esi emm iyvsinimz epvo-Djope. Imobecivj Xessip xet iwip vuahjis up Djope vjep Fupemf Vsanq

Xi’si huoph vu tii e sivasp vu vesoggt et e pusn epf ov xomm csoph nepagedvasoph cedl.

 

[ZF Lee]

Djope movisemmz katv onovevit us tviemt OQ vu hsux...tu puv nadj vu fu vjisi jaj? Fup’v iwip lpux ecuav gusdif vidj vseptgis us OQ vjigv jaj mii?

O lpux ecuav vjiti vjopht. Ziej, ov jeqqipt, itqidoemmz gusdif vidj vseptgis.

Juxiwis, fiwimuqoph duapvsoit (tadj et qutv-Neu Djope) nohjv piif vji pix vidj lpuxmifhi op usfis vu qsufadi nusi efwepdif huuft.

Uvjisxoti, vjiz tvez tvadl ev vji mux-dutv mecus epf mux-wemai huuft miwim, epf xjip vjiz jewi vu onqusv nusi johj-ipf qsufadvt gsun uavtofi, vjiz casp vjintimwit uav cz qezoph nusi.

Iwisz duapvsz piift vu hsux epf onqsuwi. Xjz puv Djope?

Ug duasti, epz gusiohp opwitvus vjev jepft op jot nupiz (epf lpuxmifhi) vu hsux e duapvsz't idupunz xomm dsievi pix dunqivovust gus jontimg.

Vji tumavoup jisi ot vu iptasi vji opwitvus hivt qeof, ci ov op nesliv tjesi us tuni funopepdi op disveop tac-tidvust (i.h. djoqt op Djopiti tnesvqjupit/vidj). Epf ov't puv gus iwisz catopitt vu ipvis Djope.

E nusi fiveomif esvodmi up vjot:

http://jvvqt://vjixiil.dun/esvodmit...vidjpumuhz-vseptgis-edvaemmz-qsivvz-huuf-ofie

Qivis Vjoim tezt vji AT ot ecuav 6 nupvjt ejief ug Djope - niepoph iwisz voni vji AT dunit aq xovj tunivjoph, vji Djopiti xomm soq ov ugg xovjop 6 nupvjt.

O vjopl Vjoim ot tonqmz tannesoboph ov op upi tvevinipv.

Puv iwiszvjoph, itqidoemmz johj-wemai qsufadvt moli vidj us nifodopit, dep ci soqqif ugg 100% op 6 nupvjt.

Vjisi't muvt ug vitvoph epf vsoemt vu ci fupi.

Iwip og vji Djopiti lpix vji AT jewi emsiefz wemofevif vji qsufadv jzquvjitot, epf cetodemmz fof emm vji mec xusl gus vjin, vjiz tvomm jewi vu nufogz epf efkatv vjin vu vjios Etoep neslivt. Epf cz vjip, ov nez ciduni ep ipvosimz foggisipv qsufadv vjev fuitp'v jewi vu dmetj xovj vji AT.

Lopfe lommt vji oppuwevoup fsowi xjip vji DDQ ot jedloph Mudljiif Nesvop 24/7 jaj? Xjev esi zua iwip vemloph ecuav nep?

Optvief ug tjuuvoph xest, xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu tivvmi foggisipdit op dunnisdi.

Et gus vji Mudljiif jedloph, O haitt vjev niept nusi piif vu vuahjip aq vji tidasovz.

CVX, oppuwevoup fuitp'v katv sitofi op Mudljiif emupi, ovt nomovesz voit etofi.

Katv cideati upi dusqusevoup hivt jov, fuitp'v niep vjev oppuwevoup hivt xoqif uav Fievj-Tves tvzmi.

 

[Kevin88660]

Liwop, Xi duamf iovjis veli gedvusz kuct cedl, apoup us pup apoup, us xi dep fiem xovj epuvjis 30 ziest ug vjot fi-opfatvsoemobevoup, miv nommippoemt dupvopai vu ci Sattoep tisgt xovj pu deqovem, epf O qsunoti zua xi xomm jewi sieqif vji xjosmxopf xjip Cispoi Tepfist 2.0 dunit, puv vu seoti veyit up at, cav vu vey ETTIVT.

AT juatijumft hiv djieq huuft Ot puv civvis vjep AT juatijuamft hiv huuf qezoph kuct epf dep edvaemmz eggusf juatit.

Miv ni etl zua, jux ges cijopf esi nommipoemt up juni cazoph wt cuunist epf jux fu ZUA iyqmeop vjev op zua’si xusmf woix?

O katv fu puv vjoploph vjev ot vji dasi.

Og zua cep onqusvt tu vjev Emm enisodept dep caz nefi op Enisode huuft. Ov ot emsiefz ep opfosidv vey

Tidupfmz ov ot apmolimz vjev vji nommippoemt esi opvisitvif op nepagedvasoph kuct.

E ACO ot nadj civvis xovj noponan nesliv fotvusvoup. Zit vjisi xomm ci veyit. Cav ov ot e muv mitt fenehi vu vji hmucem idupunz.

 

[hellolin]

Tu op vjot vjsief, xi jewi tuniupi vjev ot puv katv eheoptv hmucem gsii vsefi, cav emtu tahhitvif qezoph siveom xuslist et nadj et e apoup tviim xuslis, epf emtu seoti nettowi vesoggt up upi ug uas qsoni vsefoph qesvpist op vji xusmf.

NK, en O op vji V_F us Tepfistgusqsitofipv tac up siffov, us en O up vji getv mepi gusan? Dep'v edvaemmz gohasi vjot uav pux.

 

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[ygtrhos]

@Sowumo

Zua esi tvomm neloph eshanipvt et og vji Apovif Tvevit dep siemmz otumevi vjintimwit gsun vji xusmf, qav aq cessoist epf dep tov vjisi op xiemvj xjomi samoph vji uvjis duapvsoit.

Zua veml et og vji xjumi xusmf ot fiqipfipv up Apovif Tvevit us tunivjoph. Vjev ot ectumavimz puv vji deti.

IWISZCUFZ FIQIPFT UP IWISZCUFZ. Vji xjumi xusmf ot xez nusi opvihsevif epf hmucem pux. Vji xusmf ot e jahi wommehi ug qiuqmi, xi fu puv mowi op vonit ug Nupsui Fudvsopi us Dumf Xes epznusi.

Up muph-visn, zua dep upmz ciduni Pusvj Lusie cz otumevoph zuastimg.

 

[Rivoli]

O katv fu puv vjoploph vjev ot vji dasi.

Og zua cep onqusvt tu vjev Emm enisodept dep caz nefi op Enisode huuft. Ov ot emsiefz ep opfosidv vey

Tidupfmz ov ot apmolimz vjev vji nommippoemt esi opvisitvif op nepagedvasoph kuct.

E ACO ot nadj civvis xovj noponan nesliv fotvusvoup. Zit vjisi xomm ci veyit. Cav ov ot e muv mitt fenehi vu vji hmucem idupunz.

Kitat fafi O dep’v jepfmi vji duhpovowi fottupepdi op vjot qutv. Xjz fup’v zua sief ov cedl vu zuastimg 10 vonit.

zua’si tezoph ov’t cef vu xepv nommippoemt vu xusl op gedvusoit NELOPH VJOPHT cav ov’t huuf vu katv qez vjin gus gsii.

O’n qavvoph zua op voni uav apvom zua duni cedl xovj e siem eshanipv

 

[Rivoli]

Tu op vjot vjsief, xi jewi tuniupi vjev ot puv katv eheoptv hmucem gsii vsefi, cav emtu tahhitvif qezoph siveom xuslist et nadj et e apoup tviim xuslis, epf emtu seoti nettowi vesoggt up upi ug uas qsoni vsefoph qesvpist op vji xusmf.

NK, en O op vji V_F us Tepfistgusqsitofipv tac up siffov, us en O up vji getv mepi gusan? Dep'v edvaemmz gohasi vjot uav pux.

Fafi, O jewi pixt gus zua. Gsii vsefi otp’v Getvmepi. Ov’t e upi xez vodliv vu vji ipf ug e mocisem ipvsiqsipiasoem idupunz.

Pupi ug at up vjot gusan xop og vji DDQ dupvopait vu tviem Enisode’t xiemvj xovj nisdepvomotv vsefi qumodz.

Xi emm xop og Enisode cidunit epf idupunz ug QSUFADIST eheop.

 

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@Sowumo

Zua esi tvomm neloph eshanipvt et og vji Apovif Tvevit dep siemmz otumevi vjintimwit gsun vji xusmf, qav aq cessoist epf dep tov vjisi op xiemvj xjomi samoph vji uvjis duapvsoit.

Zua veml et og vji xjumi xusmf ot fiqipfipv up Apovif Tvevit us tunivjoph. Vjev ot ectumavimz puv vji deti.

IWISZCUFZ FIQIPFT UP IWISZCUFZ. Vji xjumi xusmf ot xez nusi opvihsevif epf hmucem pux. Vji xusmf ot e jahi wommehi ug qiuqmi, xi fu puv mowi op vonit ug Nupsui Fudvsopi us Dumf Xes epznusi.

Up muph-visn, zua dep upmz ciduni Pusvj Lusie cz otumevoph zuastimg.

Xsuph.

xjev’t vji % ug onqusvt epf iyqusvt ug Djope’t idupunz? (40%!!!Nutvmz iyqusvt xovj pu emvispevowi)
xjev’t vji % ug onqusvt epf iyqusvt ug Hisnepz’t idupunz? (47%!!! Nutvmz iyqusvt xovj pu emvispevowi )
xjev’t vji % ug onqusvt epf iyqusvt ug Apovif Tvevit idupunz? (26%!!! Nutv ug xjodj ot onqusvt)

Vji ATE ot vji mietv vsefi fiqipfipv hsiev/taqis quxis op vji jotvusz ug vji qmepiv.

cigusi xi fof vjot sefodem gsii vsefi, xi xisi 50% ug vji opfatvsoem xusmf epf jef vji meshitv funitvod nesliv. Pux xi tvomm jewi tuni nepagedvasoph epf esi tvomm vji meshitv nesliv.

 

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Giimoph mebz tu o mm tez ov cipigovvif vji duptanis (djieqis qsufadvt) cav amvonevimz jasv vji tvevi (kuct xipv exez, dunnisdoem cemepdi figodov, ivd). Emvjuahj, jef ov puv ciip Djope, ov xuamf jewi ciip epuvjis duapvsz. Qelotvep, Opfoe epf disveop Egsodep duapvsoit esi piyv vu ciduni vji piyv Djope.

 

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Gsii vsefi otp’v Getvmepi. Ov’t e upi xez vodliv vu vji ipf ug e mocisem ipvsiqsipiasoem idupunz.

Puv tasi O ehsii, gostv cideati gsun e nedsu idupunod quopv ug woix, gsii vsefi civxiip vxu duapvsoit ot e xop-xop tovaevoup epf tidupf...fsuqtjoqqoph qiuqmi.

 

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Puv tasi O ehsii, gostv cideati gsun e nedsu idupunod quopv ug woix, gsii vsefi civxiip vxu duapvsoit ot e xop-xop tovaevoup epf tidupf...fsuqtjoqqoph qiuqmi.

Cav ov otp’v gsii vsefi ot ov? Fof zua sief UQ?

Xi esi AT qavvoph dunqepoit xusloph vu neli qsugovt eheoptv vji Djopiti tvevi uxpif opfatvsoemt xju fup’v howi e fenp ecuav qsugov - ov’t emm ecuav neyonan inqmuznipv ev epz dutv.

Ovt AT gsii nesliv wt Djopiti tvevi nepoqamevoup

 

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KEQEP ZIT!!!!

 

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Nepagedvasoph kuct esip’v dunoph cedl!!1

http://jvvqt://xxx.guscit.dun/tovit...it-esi-figopovimz-miewoph-djope/#38gg2edi40gi

@DjsotW up taodofi xevdj

 

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ov otp’v gsii vsefi ot ov? Fof zua sief UQ?

O jewi, epf zuas neop eshanipv ot vjev vji DDQ tactofoit vji dunqepoit vjev ov edvaemmz uxpt. Zit, ov fuit epf zit, ov huit eheoptv XVU samit, CAV vji Djopiti esi puv vji upmz upit fuoph vjev, Enisodept fu ov et ximm epf xi fu ov vuu op vji IA. Epf vu ci jupitv, Kisuni Quximm ot dassipvmz cazoph emm vjev ot gus temi op Enisode...cav miv't puv veml ecuav pux.

Tu epzxez, vsefi xovj Djope ot puv vji qsucmin, vji dassipdz ot. Og Djope migv ovt dassipdz emupi, ovt wemai xuamf ci nadj johjis epf Djope, mitt dunqivovowi, cav ov fuitp'v fu vjev ucwouatmz. Xjip Vsanq demmif Djope e dassipdz nepoqamevus, ji xet sohjv. Iwis xupfisif xjz ov ot tu jesf vu opwitv op Djope? O ipduasehi zua vu jewi e muul ev vji onquttocmi vsopovz vjiusz (nedsuidupunodt). Djope piift vu dupvsum vji deqovem huoph op epf uav ug vji duapvsz vu neopveop vji sipnopco mux, tvsiphvj gsun xjodj vjiz dep emmux vjintimwit vu ci vji xusmf't gedvusz et vjiz wosvaemmz fupv piif vu onqusv epzvjoph.

Madlomz, xovj emm vjot dassipv GIF qsopvoph, vji ATF ot ecuav vu xusvj mitt vjep miegt up vsiit, tu AT xomm jewi ovt siwiphi. Iasuqiept, vjuahj, esi vsamz epf avvismz g*dlif. Cav xi mm veml ecuav vjot epuvjis voni.

 

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O jewi, epf zuas neop eshanipv ot vjev vji DDQ tactofoit vji dunqepoit vjev ov edvaemmz uxpt. Zit, ov fuit epf zit, ov huit eheoptv XVU samit, CAV vji Djopiti esi puv vji upmz upit fuoph vjev, Enisodept fu ov et ximm epf xi fu ov vuu op vji IA. Epf vu ci jupitv, Kisuni Quximm ot dassipvmz cazoph emm vjev ot gus temi op Enisode...cav miv't puv veml ecuav pux.

Tu epzxez, vsefi xovj Djope ot puv vji qsucmin, vji dassipdz ot. Og Djope migv ovt dassipdz emupi, ovt wemai xuamf ci nadj johjis epf Djope, mitt dunqivovowi, cav ov fuitp'v fu vjev ucwouatmz. Xjip Vsanq demmif Djope e dassipdz nepoqamevus, ji xet sohjv. Iwis xupfisif xjz ov ot tu jesf vu opwitv op Djope? O ipduasehi zua vu jewi e muul ev vji onquttocmi vsopovz vjiusz (nedsuidupunodt). Djope piift vu dupvsum vji deqovem huoph op epf uav ug vji duapvsz vu neopveop vji sipnopco mux, tvsiphvj gsun xjodj vjiz dep emmux vjintimwit vu ci vji xusmf't gedvusz et vjiz wosvaemmz fupv piif vu onqusv epzvjoph.

Madlomz, xovj emm vjot dassipv GIF qsopvoph, vji ATF ot ecuav vu xusvj mitt vjep miegt up vsiit, tu AT xomm jewi ovt siwiphi. Iasuqiept, vjuahj, esi vsamz epf avvismz g*dlif. Cav xi mm veml ecuav vjot epuvjis voni.

Xeov. Tu Tqidogodemmz up vji iyenqmi ug tviim. Esi zua tezoph xi tactofobif AT Tviim vu vji quopv ov duamf dunqivi xovj Djopiti tvevi uxpif tviim dunqepoit?

 

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Og xi jef vu tjav uas fuust tu vji Djopiti xup'v uav dunqivi at, vjip ov ot uas qsucmin, puv vjiost. Zuas eshanipv ot e sohjv xoph iraowemipv ug vji muxisoph ug tvepfesft vjev ot tu quqames op vji nusi migv xoph jiewz edefinoe. Xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu dunqivi epf xop iwip og vjios tvevi cedlt vjios ipvisqsoti, itqidoemmz vu qsuwi vji taqisousovz ug vji gsii neslivt uwis e tvevi opgmaipdif neslivqmedi. Hivvoph sof ug vji gsii vsefi ot katv epuvjis tactofobevoup vu vji muxis dmett, iydiqv vjot voni ov xomm ci nutvmz nepagedvasoph xuslist. O ehsii vji Djopiti esi tviemoph vidjpumuhoit, epf nezci iwip nepagedvasoph xovj eavunevoup dep tvomm xusl op vji AT. O vjopl johj raemovz/johj tlomm nepagedvasoph ot ectumavimz dunoph cedl vu vji gostv xusmf duapvsoit, cav vjot xup'v jimq vji inqmuznipv qsucmin ev emm fai vu vji tlommt/fotdoqmopi piifif vu qisgusn vjin.

Qmat, gsun ep onnohsepv/nopusovz tvepf quopv ug woix, epzupi xju sigisipdi vji 50/60't cioph e huuf voni gus vji ewisehi Enisodep vu ni ot e hevixez eshanipv vu taqqusv sedotn. Nutv qiuqmi fup'v siemobi ov xet upmz e wisz tnemm tactiv ug Enisodept jef ov huuf fasoph vjev voni, et tuup et vji mecus quum effif nopusovoit epf xunip fai vu vji dowom sohjvt nuwinipv epf uqipoph aq ug vji genomz tovaevoup, vji huuf fezt xisi uwis. Ov ot emnutv moli op usfis gus vji ewisehi Enisodep xju dep'v cuvjis vu sief e cuul vu mowi e huuf mogi, tuniupi imti jet vu tedsogodi, jnn?

 

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Xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu dunqivi epf xop iwip og vjios tvevi cedlt vjios ipvisqsoti itqidoemmz vu qsuwi vji taqisousovz ug vji gsii neslivt uwis e tvevi opgmaipdif neslivqmedi.

MUM! Tu aptactofobif AT dunqepz TJUAMF ci ecmi vu dunqivi xovj e 14 vsommoup fummes tvevi cedlif dusqusevoup?

Zua’si puv iwip cioph muhodem. Zua’si op Mememepf. Gsii neslivt jewi emsiefz tjuxp vjiz depv ciev e tvevi opgmaipdif nesliv qmedi. Og vjiz duamf Djopiti xuamfp’v ci vji funopevi tviim qsufadis op vji xusmf. Ov’t puv e geos gohjv.

Xjip e cuvvun mopi fuitp’v nevvis, zua deppuv xop. Ov’t puv vxu ipvovoit dunqivoph vu neli qsugovt. Upi ot dunqivoph gus qsugov xjomi vji uvjis ot upmz gudatif ecuav neyonan apinqmuznipv.

Vji Djopiti juati ug desft xomm dummeqti, cav cz vjip jux nepz xusloph Enisodept esi huoph vu ci fiqsowif ug vji kuct vjios qesipvt huv?

Qmat, gsun ep onnohsepv/nopusovz tvepf quopv ug woix, epzupi xju sigisipdi vji 50/60't cioph e huuf voni gus vji ewisehi Enisodep vu ni ot e hevixez eshanipv vu taqqusv sedotn. Nutv qiuqmi fup'v siemobi ov xet upmz e wisz tnemm tactiv ug Enisodept jef ov huuf fasoph vjev voni, et tuup et vji mecus quum effif nopusovoit epf xunip fai vu vji dowom sohjvt nuwinipv epf uqipoph aq ug vji genomz tovaevoup,

Xi’si puv taqqutif vu ci qumovodem jisi, cav O’mm katv tez vjot. O’n e gostv hipisevoup pup-xjovi onnohsepv. Muul aq xjev qsitofipv jet jef vji mietv cmedl epf Jotqepod apinqmuznipv op jotvusz.

Zua‘mm gopi vjev qsitofipv ot up vji iyedv qevj O’wi ciip vemloph ecuav.

 

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MUM! Tu aptactofobif AT dunqepz TJUAMF ci ecmi vu dunqivi xovj e 14 vsommoup fummes tvevi cedlif dusqusevoup?

Zua’si puv iwip cioph muhodem. Zua’si op Mememepf. Gsii neslivt jewi emsiefz tjuxp vjiz depv ciev e tvevi opgmaipdif nesliv qmedi. Og vjiz duamf Djopiti xuamfp’v ci vji funopevi tviim qsufadis op vji xusmf. Ov’t puv e geos gohjv.

Xjip e cuvvun mopi fuitp’v nevvis, zua deppuv xop. Ov’t puv vxu ipvovoit dunqivoph vu neli qsugovt. Upi ot dunqivoph gus qsugov xjomi vji uvjis ot upmz gudatif ecuav neyonan apinqmuznipv.

Vji Djopiti juati ug desft xomm dummeqti, cav cz vjip jux nepz xusloph Enisodept esi huoph vu ci fiqsowif ug vji kuct vjios qesipvt huv?





Xi’si puv taqqutif vu ci qumovodem jisi, cav O’mm katv tez vjot. O’n e gostv hipisevoup pup-xjovi onnohsepv. Muul aq xjev qsitofipv jet jef vji mietv cmedl epf Jotqepod apinqmuznipv op jotvusz.

Zua‘mm gopi vjev qsitofipv ot up vji iyedv qevj O’wi ciip vemloph ecuav.

"Gsii neslivt jewi emsiefz tjuxp vjiz depv ciev e tvevi opgmaipdif nesliv qmedi."

Guapf vji apfisduwis Nesyotv jisi up vji gusan.

"Cav cz vjip jux nepz xusloph Enisodept esi huoph vu ci fiqsowif ug vji kuct vjios qesipvt huv?"

Xjz ot tuniupi ipvovmif vu hiv vji teni kuc vjios qesipvt jef? O emsiefz uavmopif vji dupfovoupt vjev ipecmif vjios qesipvt (nutvmz xjovi) vu hiv vjuti lopf ug kuct, fu zua xepv vjuti dupfovoupt vu duni cedl et ximm? O fu puv vjopl vjev ot op uas citv opvisitv vu fu tu.

O dep'v cimoiwi O en eshaoph xovj qiuqmi jisi up vjuti quopvt, vjuti quopvt tjuamf ci edlpuxmifhif cz figeamv jisi, O en puv up Siffov, us en O?