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@Fox any way of getting that sales call back up? The video is down
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The more a client pays me, the more they expect me to know.
The more they expect me to know, the more control they give me on a project.
The more control they give me on a project, the less likely they are to ask questions about the minutia.
My conclusion? The amount a client pays you is proportionate to the amount of trust they have in you.
If you're competent, do the work on time, be receptive, and deliver on your promise (hint: never promise results that you cannot be 100% sure on); that trust will only grow.
@Fox whoa, thanks for that call. I learned so many things, I'd take me 1-2 years-ish to get to that level. So completely different reading "you have to know about your clients, and generate value!" and actually seeing one commented in real time. Thanks so much, man.
One question: towards the end, the guy mentioning "checking your stuff out" and stuff like that - He was after what? Also, seeing that I don't get enough social proof to just give info and expect the social proof to sell it for me, I try to avoid it at all costs so it doesn't look like I don't know what I'm doing, even though I'm confident I can make a website at least 5x better.
@Fox yeah, that video will shed several months from my learning curve. Sales/talking in general is not something that I've done extensively.
Another thing that grabbed my attention on that call was the fact that you stressed that it was a one-time thing... how well do you think that model lends itself to being scaled, specially to over 7-figures (without 40 employees and making you go nuts)?
I mean, loosely speaking, you'd have to find a new client every time you need to bank some cash. Assuming you charge $3,000 per client and have a 1% conversion rate on average, if you want to earn $250,000 per year for the next five years, you'd have to find 42,000 business in a good niche who have a website, and whose website sucks!
Contrast that with a predictable revenue model (monthly subscription, having cashflow for scaling, etc) -- I saw an interview of an agency bringing over $300K per month on 80 clients ($4,000 each).
Just curious to see your take on that, as you're further down on this road, and since you also mentioned thinking about scaling this to 50-100K a month.
Last year I made several million in sales for the companies I worked with, I will be putting those skills to work for myself.
Wow. Took me a few days but I finally got through this entire thread. So much knowledge here to take away, I can't believe it. All of this information can be applicable to so many services beyond web development. At the end of the day if you want to be your own boss, then you are going to have to "sell" something. Because I am brand new to the forum, I don't know how I can properly thank you guys @Fox @Andy Black @SinisterLex . I have all of the basic html/css part down, I am just working on turning that into a finished product. The next project is going to sharpening up on my copywriting and cold selling, and if all goes as planned we could be looking at some free projects in 3-4 weeks. Not trying to duplicate Fox at all here (I know that has been a bit of a soft subject), more so just learning this skill to take forward and use with me as a tool for projects to come.
Ok so as I was reading through the 37 pages of gold, I came up with some questions. Now I know I am super late and this thread is not nearly as active as it once was, but I am hoping that maybe I could get a couple of answers if the help is still there.
1. If you are approaching a company/business and pitching your service whether it be SEO, copy, web design, graphic design, you have a choice as to how you are going to represent yourself. Now you have mentioned that if you use your full name and personal email it makes it a more casual interaction. However, many people who are trying to get into the some sort of skill are doing it on the side and they have a main job that occupies their "workdays" for now. These people may not want their name on various websites and being in emails and being on google linked to their own website. What are the options for someone who wants to do this on the side without completely interlacing this with their 9-5. If you don't want to use a full name, could you possibly use a company name? An alias?
2. @Fox when you are building multiple websites with very similar layouts and such, do you have any sort of self made template or any chunk of code that you regularly copy and paste when it comes to building a new site? Because I imagine a lot of the framework is very repetitive and common amongst most of the sites you are working on.
I look forward to contributing what I can and seeing you guys around the boards.
Thanks again, best of luck to all who are still reading!
Question 1:
Nobody is going to know your company, so I wouldn't bother mentioning it in the email or call. It just raises questions without moving you closer to the sale. Just say your name.
I would never use an alias as this is dishonest and will also raise more questions that don't lead to a sale.
You have nothing to hide by pitching services on the side. It's neither illegal nor unethical (provided you aren't trying to poach customers from your employer). If you're worried about your 9 to 5 boss finding out, then it sounds like it's time to quit anyway. I wouldn't worry about showing up in search results, unless you have a really uncommon name. Chances are high someone else has the same name and is dominating page 1 of the SERP. If you're REALLY worried about it, then don't put your picture on your business website - this will give you plausible deniability.
Question 2:
Not answering for him directly, but in general you will use templates for HTML websites. These are highly customizable. Some are free, and some are paid. But yes, use a template to cut down on the repetitive nature of HTML scripting.
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This is a great resource.
1. If you are approaching a company/business and pitching your service whether it be SEO, copy, web design, graphic design, you have a choice as to how you are going to represent yourself. Now you have mentioned that if you use your full name and personal email it makes it a more casual interaction. However, many people who are trying to get into the some sort of skill are doing it on the side and they have a main job that occupies their "workdays" for now. These people may not want their name on various websites and being in emails and being on google linked to their own website. What are the options for someone who wants to do this on the side without completely interlacing this with their 9-5. If you don't want to use a full name, could you possibly use a company name? An alias?
2. @Fox when you are building multiple websites with very similar layouts and such, do you have any sort of self made template or any chunk of code that you regularly copy and paste when it comes to building a new site? Because I imagine a lot of the framework is very repetitive and common amongst most of the sites you are working on.
Wow. Took me a few days but I finally got through this entire thread. So much knowledge here to take away, I can't believe it. All of this information can be applicable to so many services beyond web development. At the end of the day if you want to be your own boss, then you are going to have to "sell" something. Because I am brand new to the forum, I don't know how I can properly thank you guys @Fox @Andy Black @SinisterLex . I have all of the basic html/css part down, I am just working on turning that into a finished product. The next project is going to sharpening up on my copywriting and cold selling, and if all goes as planned we could be looking at some free projects in 3-4 weeks. Not trying to duplicate Fox at all here (I know that has been a bit of a soft subject), more so just learning this skill to take forward and use with me as a tool for projects to come.
Ok so as I was reading through the 37 pages of gold, I came up with some questions. Now I know I am super late and this thread is not nearly as active as it once was, but I am hoping that maybe I could get a couple of answers if the help is still there.
1. If you are approaching a company/business and pitching your service whether it be SEO, copy, web design, graphic design, you have a choice as to how you are going to represent yourself. Now you have mentioned that if you use your full name and personal email it makes it a more casual interaction. However, many people who are trying to get into the some sort of skill are doing it on the side and they have a main job that occupies their "workdays" for now. These people may not want their name on various websites and being in emails and being on google linked to their own website. What are the options for someone who wants to do this on the side without completely interlacing this with their 9-5. If you don't want to use a full name, could you possibly use a company name? An alias?
2. @Fox when you are building multiple websites with very similar layouts and such, do you have any sort of self made template or any chunk of code that you regularly copy and paste when it comes to building a new site? Because I imagine a lot of the framework is very repetitive and common amongst most of the sites you are working on.
I look forward to contributing what I can and seeing you guys around the boards.
Thanks again, best of luck to all who are still reading!
I have no clients. I wrote about 20-25 emails and nobody even write back, to say "no". I tried with English, and I tried with my native language. Of course I don't have a portfolio, but I said in every email it's FREE OF CHARGE. I don't want money, because I'm just building my portfolio. I want also to try cold calling, but I can do it only in my native language.
My email in English:
Subject - Appropriate person
"
Hi [xxx],
I am writing in hopes of finding the appropriate person who handles online marketing?
I noticed you lost a lot of money with outdated website. I'm interested in revamping your website. Here is an example of what your site could look like in less than a three weeks: [xxxxx]. I can change everything you want. This work is totally FREE of charge. I don't want any money. I'm building my portfolio, so if you like it, you can use it.
If you are the appropriate person to speak with, please, write me back. If not, who do you recommend I talk to?
Best
"
Even I do a site for one of them(show, don't tell), and it's how it's look like: sebdesignweb.com.pl , and this is original site: caliberelevator.com .
I do that site just for the view, so don't blame me. I know elevator service doesn't have an Adidas as client, and there is lack of CTA, but this is my one of first sites ever. (Yes, I work with the templates like Fox's says).
Can you help me, please?
I have sent somewhere around 200 emails before getting my first client.I have no clients. I wrote about 20-25 emails and nobody even write back, to say "no". I tried with English, and I tried with my native language. Of course I don't have a portfolio, but I said in every email it's FREE OF CHARGE. I don't want money, because I'm just building my portfolio. I want also to try cold calling, but I can do it only in my native language.
My email in English:
Subject - Appropriate person
"
Hi [xxx],
I am writing in hopes of finding the appropriate person who handles online marketing?
I noticed you lost a lot of money with outdated website. I'm interested in revamping your website. Here is an example of what your site could look like in less than a three weeks: [xxxxx]. I can change everything you want. This work is totally FREE of charge. I don't want any money. I'm building my portfolio, so if you like it, you can use it.
If you are the appropriate person to speak with, please, write me back. If not, who do you recommend I talk to?
Best
"
Even I do a site for one of them(show, don't tell), and it's how it's look like: sebdesignweb.com.pl , and this is original site: caliberelevator.com .
I do that site just for the view, so don't blame me. I know elevator service doesn't have an Adidas as client, and there is lack of CTA, but this is my one of first sites ever. (Yes, I work with the templates like Fox's says).
Can you help me, please?
Every modern web browser is compatible with WebGL, it's an API that makes calls to you GPU to render some content instead of the CPU.Even I don't have a "WebGL", so what with common user? :O
What's the browser that gave you that message?My web browser is updated, and I can't see this magic trick, so what should do someone with older website? I remind you, Fox's niche is peoples who don't know network stuff.
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PS.
On Firefox it's working well. It's very good looking stuff, thanks for sharing this.
I have no clients. I wrote about 20-25 emails and nobody even write back, to say "no". I tried with English, and I tried with my native language. Of course I don't have a portfolio, but I said in every email it's FREE OF CHARGE. I don't want money, because I'm just building my portfolio. I want also to try cold calling, but I can do it only in my native language.
My email in English:
Subject - Appropriate person
"
Hi [xxx],
I am writing in hopes of finding the appropriate person who handles online marketing?
I noticed you lost a lot of money with outdated website. I'm interested in revamping your website. Here is an example of what your site could look like in less than a three weeks: [xxxxx]. I can change everything you want. This work is totally FREE of charge. I don't want any money. I'm building my portfolio, so if you like it, you can use it.
If you are the appropriate person to speak with, please, write me back. If not, who do you recommend I talk to?
Best
"
Even I do a site for one of them(show, don't tell), and it's how it's look like: sebdesignweb.com.pl , and this is original site: caliberelevator.com .
I do that site just for the view, so don't blame me. I know elevator service doesn't have an Adidas as client, and there is lack of CTA, but this is my one of first sites ever. (Yes, I work with the templates like Fox's says).
Can you help me, please?
Oh I see, good to knowI used Google Chrome but it doesn't work because I have non compatible plugin. Default Chrome work also very well.
Just wanted to give a big shout out and thanks to @Fox for all the help and advice - just locked up my first small website job thanks to what he teaches in this thread and his coaching. The job's a perfect fit for where I'm at with my skill set and I'll really be helping them because their current site is absolutely horrendous.
I can only imagine if I had more time to hit the phones and email I'd probably have the 2nd one lined up already too!
Thanks Rob!
I got two larger sites that are between 10-20k very close to closing this week so this could be my biggest week ever.
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