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Discussion in 'Web Design as a Hustle' started by Fox, May 7, 2018.

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    Just switching things over to Kajabi right now (from teachable). If you want to join just send me a PM and I’ll let ya know the options.

    Thanks
     
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    I'm currently stuck between starting an SMMA or a web design company, or both at once. I started the SMMA part but I want to wait until I move back to the states in December/January because I'm more confident talking to clients in English if I have to talk to them in person. I've been learning HTML and CSS on Sololearn. It's pretty good so far. My fear about web design is that it seems like every company already has a website, but I guess most business sites aren't set up very well. Do you have any convincing arguments for why it'd be a better idea to get into web design (although I have no design skills, but that can be learned or outsourced) than starting a social media agency?
     
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    @Fox I am just getting started to read your GOLD thread and you got me pretty inspired already.
    Thank you for spreading your knowledge with others.
    "It isn't code and it isn't design - its solving problems and building sales. " - your words, really like that one.
     
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    @Fox I've played around with a few ideas for the last few years had a little success here and there, but as a whole action faking. So ive decided I'm gonna code a blog that I'll post on to practice seo and start a seo company down the line, probably will be a few years before we start seeing results but "eventually, the time that was not spent on learning new skills will catch up with you, and the fall will be painful" Robert Greene.

    So yh I need to add more skills to my locker and get serious I won't be 23 forever & life is getting on. Where would be the best place to start, with a udemy course? people have said good things about yours, so I gonna get on that tomorrow. Its currently 01.57, can't sleep cus I've been working nights and I have college tomorrow, need to be up for 6
     
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    Absolutely! @Fox is an inspiration that led me to read both your books back to back in a couple days. Looking forward to following suit as a way to break free from the scripted life now and pursue other ventures only after this one has taken off. Already have done 3 sites so it is working!
     
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    Get a piece of paper. Write down everyone you might know or could approach who owns a business.

    Now mark the businesses you might think have some problems that you could (don't worry about how exactly right now) help with.

    They need ________. They have issues with _________. They might have a problem with __________ .

    Now go approach those businesses. Tell them you are motivated to help and you want nothing more in return than to see if it added value.

    If you are motivated and have the conviction someone will let you.

    That is all you need to do to get started. Approach one business and make a small/big difference. That is the start of a business to business service.

    If you can do just a little you can learn to do more. If you can help one you can help a lot.

    Coding and that stuff comes later when you got a real problem to try solve.
     
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    Welcome @Lorus - glad you joined the forums.
     
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    @Fox Joined your new coding school, i quickly realised its more focused on sales and building the business though, i havent even got to that stage so i need to get there. In the facebook group ive watched some of the free videos stopped at step two to take action. Just purchased the suggested website builder udemy course but i didnt see an affiliate link. Anyhow im going to go through the course now and im build the demo website, launch my own web dev landing page/website next week and get on udemy to just build up some experience and a portfolio.

    Ill post an update next week, time to get serious!
     
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    Why disappointment?
     
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    I was a bit ironical. Everyone can experience 'it' as he wants. But there is a lot of negative feelings accompanying any activity without getting instant gratification.
     
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    Great, take your time and go through the content at your own speed.

    How are things going now?
     
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    @Fox Still doing the udemy course, there's is a lot that is covered, need better focus to study for longer everyday, really not doing enough at the moment if im honest, my job is very mentally draining, but excuses don't produce results, just got to DO THE WORK and thats all there is to it. Still going though, some progress is better the zero.
     
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    Keep doing what you can and it will add up over time.
     
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    I need to start creating websites in order to fund my initial business idea as you can't work a job in my area unless you're above 16 and you cannot work on freelance sites if you are under 18.

    However, I believe there may be a problem because of my age, 14 to be exact. I see this as a problem because potential clients may feel as if I am less experienced even though I first started learning HTML and CSS in school at the age of 12. I do not know if I am over analysing it or if I am just manufacturing the problem in my mind.

    MJ DeMarco said this on Fox's
    'How to Learn Code, Start a Web Company, $15k+ per month within 9 months' thread.
    1. Find a notable company in a larger industry with a poorly designed website.
    2. Find the decision maker and "try" to get authorization to redo their website... TOTALLY FREE OF CHARGE. If they like it, they can use it.
    3. If you can't find the decision maker, DO IT ANYWAY.
    4. Redesign the website.
    5. Make sure it is your best work, and a clear improvement over the original website.
    6. Email the entire upper management the link of the new website -- reiterate that it is FREE and that you will change anything they want.
    7. Once they see the work and realize it is FREE, they will probably accept it.
    8. Now you have your first client -- giving you the ability to say "We recently redesigned XXX's website." -- giving you social proof with a notable company. Now you can look to start charging. If not, repeat.
    9. The above can be done for APPS as well. (I noticed you didn't have a mobile app?)
    10. At some point, it will become easier and easier to find paid work.
    11. Pick color of Lamborghini.
    ;)

    I believe this is a great way to build your portfolio and to gain trust from other companies, but will my age still be an issue?

    • Has anyone experienced this issue?
    • Is there a way to get around it?
     
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    Turn your age to your advantage.



    EDIT: A story...

    I was 21 and a part-time lecturer in a college - teaching computing for people returning to work. I was super young compared to the students.

    We had an open learning centre where students could work on their assignments or practice. A member of staff would walk around helping people out, and change print toner etc.

    One day a student on a work placement was with me. He would have been about 14, but looked much younger.

    People twice his age didn't hesitate to ask him over for help.

    Why? Because he looked young and they automatically assumed he'd know more about computers than them.
     
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    Present yourself honestly as a 14-year-old.

    Tell them about your experience with web design and that although you are new to helping businesses, you are an eager learner and you believe you can help them get more customers.

    Many will likely turn you down, but some will say, "It's free, what is the harm?"

    Then, let your work do your talking.

    Nobody cares about your age if you are able to provide them real value.
     
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    If you go directly to cold prospecting it might be.

    Start with some close friends or family and build a little proof first.

    If you got some real examples (and real results that go with them) people will be open to hearing what you have to say regardless of age.

    Keep us posted and best of luck!

    I wish I started at 14 ha
     
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    Thank you, I believe the best thing to do is to state the fact that I am 14 and to show them previous websites I have created.

    P.S. What do you mean by cold prospecting? (might sound like a basic question)
     
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    Thank you very much Fox, I think the best thing for me to do is to start building my proof and I will definitely keep everybody up to date on my progress.
     
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    Much appreciated Andy, that's a perspective I've never thought of and it's a great way to make the best out of this situation.
     
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    Tell them you're a child prodigy.

    Say, "There are 15 year old Olympic athletes. I am your 15 year old Olympic athlete when it comes to websites. Alexander the Great conquered the known world at the age of 19. I am out to conquer the world of websites."
     
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    Lol. Nice.

    Even better: “Show, don’t tell”.
     
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    I love this haha, this is great!
     
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    I apologise for wasting your time, but I've found a company which has a revenue of £2.18 billion, as of 2017.

    I can redesign their website for free as it looks terrible even though it has been updated in 2019. I just wanted to know if it is worth redesigning a website for an operator of restaurants, pubs and bars.
     
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    One thing to keep in mind is companies generating a lot of profit (think millions) will be very cautious about who they bring in to provide products and services. They can't afford to take any risk, and they define risk as inexperience or a lack of work portfolio. Even if you were to offer this prospect services for free, they would hesitate because of your inexperience. Also, if you ever target high-revenue clients, it's actually better to price high. They don't bother with free, because they know you get what you pay for. Your approach should first be to get really good, then justify high fees.
     
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