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NOTABLE! SinisterLex's - I Deleted My Upwork Account...

Discussion in 'Hustles, Freelancing, Bootstrapping' started by SinisterLex, Jan 30, 2017.

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    Thanks for the suggestions! I'm semi proficient at HTML/CSS as I've had to do stuff myself for some of my projects, and Python is exactly what I'm looking to learn currently, I've bought a few courses on Udemy to learn exactly that. Not gonna hijack this thread further, so I'm going to PM you with some questions, hope you don't mind :)
     
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    Second attempt was rejected, I've done some more edits and submitted a third. However, I've been reading that UpWork may have flat out locked certain categories due to market saturation, not sure how true that is.

    My first attempt was a 'you' focused profile, my second was a 'me' focused one using "Professional Technical Writer" as my title. I've also submitted a profile on PeoplePerHour, but I'm waiting on that approval.

    Any suggestions anyone has for writing specific skills/titles I can use are welcome.

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    Third attempt was rejected. I did get approved on PeoplePerHour within 45 minutes of submitting a profile that was almost a duplicate of my original 'you' focused one for UpWork. So I think I'll give them a shot to build some portfolio stuff for UpWork.
     
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    I tried to open an account for a friend, a senior Java developer, and got the message that there are too many java programmers on UpWork already. The thing is I opened my account there in December as a Java developer with no problems, and I'm not located in the USA...

    What was the rejection message?
     
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    I've seen your videos on YouTube, Lex, and I honestly assumed you were doing them at a professional studio, not at home! Seriously cool, man. You should consider getting a sidekick. :)
     
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    I was able to successfully join upwork. Took about 3 hours. I used the recommendation for customer service, and made sure that my profile was 100% completed. I am having a problem with my ID being verified, but we'll see. Thanks for the for all your contributions @SinisterLex
     
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    Hi @SinisterLex, really inspirational thread. I was wondering what you think I can improve about this proposal I just sent. Your feedback would help others on the forum too I think.

    I'll post the job description and my proposal as well. There wasn't much info for me to go on, but I tried making the most out of it.

    Job Info
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    Proposal
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    Being honest? I think you had the opportunity to sell yourself a bit more than you did. You focus is important but the client still has to know what you can do for them. If I were a client and I read this proposal, I would think "Okay cool, he actually talked about my problems, etc. But he didn't tell me how he could solve them."

    Just my two cents.
     
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    Yay! Just got accepted to work on Upwork. 4th times the charm. I'm going to read through this thread and get started on getting some jobs.
     
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    Something like this is good enough for most clients most of the time. Addressing them first and following up with questions is more than enough to get a response and show you probably care. Other freelancers will send sh*t proposals, so this will stand out at the very least. If you don't get the interview it won't be due to a poor proposal. It just means someone wrote a better one that said more of what the client wanted to read. I'd use less questions.

    One area where the proposal doesn't connect is the tone. Notice how the client uses an excited tone in their writing. To match that, you also need to show excitement in your writing. They use exclamation points. You don't. So it doesn't send the same vibes back. This is a basic principle of "liking." We like people who are like us. Overall it's a good enough proposal style for most gigs.
     
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    Decided to restart Upwork for some extra cash. I have a few jobs and 5 star reviews from last year.

    Went from $0 to $500/week in a little under a month. Higher than the minimum wage and good business experience.

    Also, still not saturated lol.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback! I'll take this into account for my next proposals.

    Thanks for this. Good point about the tone. I see what you mean, but you had to point it out haha. It's interesting how you just spot these things, I guess it just comes with experience.
     
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    I've now read 2 of your threads @SinisterLex and all I have to say is "Damn YOU!" ;)

    I'm trying to focus on my fastlane biz, but your copy is so good here at TFLF that I'm having a hard time resisting your spell. You paint such beautiful and tasty word pictures.

    As I read, I keep telling myself I'll just practice my copywriting on my own project and ask for feedback, but I feel like the opportunity to replace one of my two jobs while honing a skill and helping real clients may be unbearably seductive. Opportunity cost is such a bitch. Decisions. Decisions.

    Whatever I decide, thanks for all the value. You're definitely one of the givers.

    P.S. Cute baby. I've had three.
     
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    That comment is bang out of order, sinister lex is great and hilarious, i like his "weirdness". And lex takes the time out to come on here and offer a ton of value to this forum and other mediums.
     
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    Totally agree. This place is full of incredible information given by people who continue to walk the walk. Thanks @SinisterLex for his continued insights - I find there's so much that's transferrable to any business.
     
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    I'm going to give it a try, been having some technical issues making an account. got ID through and currently under review.

    it does sting a bit that they take 20%! but lots of promising jobs posted.
     
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    Decided to jump in the copy writing freelancing pool as I try to figure some other things out.

    Started my upwork profile back on Friday, took the weekend to craft my intro profile and write copy about my own copy. After 2-3 revisions, I posted it this morning and already jumping into proposals.

    It's been a few years since I did copy outside of my daily sales job, but I forgot how much I enjoy it.

    Thanks for the inspiration @SinisterLex and I'll keep things updated in here until it really starts moving along.

    edit: Tried typing this before coffee... Bad idea
     
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    I have an upwork account that's about a month old since I opened and verified it.

    Now I got @SinisterLex 's upwork proposals submission course... I just finished watching them and I am looking at using the method to jump start my freelancing career.

    I will update this post as everything goes.

    Thanks
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    I think he's very good.
     
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    80% of something is much better than 100% of nothing.
     
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    Lol, that is so adorable! Congratulations. Now that you've got a kid, I think you'll have to mend your sinister ways. :)
     
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    Definitely not saturated. I only used half my connects over the course of a week and I had 5 bites and 2, potentially 3 new clients for $600-2k a month services. I had a fleshed out portfolio with some good reviews from previous work that was from a few years ago (which was sparked originally by Lex, but not this time, but thought id contribute for anyone else thinking about it)
     
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