Should I trust this guy?

[timmy]

You are been sought for "something" ...

Offering advice to you would be futile. People here on TFF create their own futures. You must decide whether you want someone else to create "your" future.........Good luck with that dream.

Did you ever stop and think of the amount of time that members here "freely" give to respond to your question.

Lets just take 40 random direct posts from members . We all have to read the thread in it entirety, to tease out , add to, object to, or simply to avoid repetition. We had to articulate a response using our unique experience. I estimate people here on the forum have invested 400 minutes = 6.6 hrs on your thread. When you get a "condescending reply" it's because you are attracting such a reply. There are probably another 6.6 hrs invested from members that just couldn't be bothered to reply.

So there we have 13 hrs of productive time that you have hijacked from this community. Some members here earn in excess of $1000 / hour. Lets take a low average of $100/hour ..Your mentor Bill would be $1300 Sir. You got it for free but still managed to squander it.

 

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[The-J]

Can I have your phone number?

I'm not that lonely

 

[Vigilante]

Dont really care if youre a celeb around here. Man i hate forum dudes like you. Feel better?

The question was specific, regarding whether releasing my ID is a justified concern. Seeing as how this is a forum, where, in theory, there's alot of business experience...i thought i'd get some thoughts. Not gonna justify myself to you.

I think you should do it.

 

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[jon.a]

You're getting a form of a loan. If I was loaning money to someone, I would want a contract, full identity information and I would do a background check.

Now, should you trust this guy?

With the information that you have provided, no one here knows.

 

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[Lex DeVille]

Hi,

I need some input on whether I should move forward with a business partnership.

The guy I'm working with, I have never met, and he is in another state. I found him, in a roundabout way, from this forum. Somebody posted a thread, linking to a thread that HE(the business partner) started...outlining his method of flipping items for profit.

So i noticed that he gave his phone # in the thread, and I called him up. Sure enough he responded and we chatted. I was only hoping maybe to pick his brain. But then he mentioned he will bankroll people (front the money) for deals in your local area, in exchange for half the profit. Totally fine with me, as i need to build capital.

So after talking quite a bit throughout the week, we finally agreed on a certain deal. And he wants to wire me the money through a moneygram service. So here's he main question:

He asked me for a copy of my drivers license, and i immediately felt...red flag.

Told him as much, and as of now it doesn't seem he's willing to compromise. he's claiming it is like collateral, since he's putting money up.

I have many more details, but i wana keep this as short as possible. Any opinions?

Trust

Your

Gut

 

[Vigilante]

There is nobody on an online forum that will vouch for anyone. I don't trust anyone. Nobody is really interested, because it is between you and the other party. Your question is should you trust some undisclosed party that you met online? Is that really your question to a bunch of strangers?

Come on, man. You know the old addage that there are no stupid questions? Well... there are.

 

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[The-J]

Jesus, not looking for this high school shit man. Just a guy trying to figure out a situation i havent been in, and looking for a break. I don't get this shit on forums. People act like this space is F*cking sacred, its just an internet post, one of a billion on this large forum. And i guarantee it will be valuable to a similar situation someone is in, at some point. What is so damn sacred? Fed up with these people who just love to talk down to people.

You asked bro, don't get mad that the answer you got isn't what you wanted. You didn't pay for it. We're giving you our honest opinion, and various forum members believe that it's a stupid question to ask.

He wants your ID, and you're concerned about it. Why would he need it?

If you have to ask, step away. If you smell shit, it might be shit. Probably is. That's just it. We can't tell if a specific person is or isn't a scammer with certainty.

He might very well be trying to help you achieve your goal of making millions...

...but probably not.

He might be an identity thief, but I'm not even worried about that. You're ready to hand the dude money and time, and you're concerned about your ID?

As a general rule though, I don't give any of my 'numbers' out to strangers on the Internet. Except my phone number, cuz I'm lonely.

 

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[Vigilante]

You asked bro, don't get mad that the answer you got isn't what you wanted. You didn't pay for it. We're giving you our honest opinion, and various forum members believe that it's a stupid question to ask.

He wants your ID, and you're concerned about it. Why would he need it?

If you have to ask, step away. If you smell shit, it might be shit. Probably is. That's just it. We can't tell if a specific person is or isn't a scammer with certainty.

He might very well be trying to help you achieve your goal of making millions...

...but probably not.

He might be an identity thief, but I'm not even worried about that. You're ready to hand the dude money and time, and you're concerned about your ID?

As a general rule though, I don't give any of my 'numbers' out to strangers on the Internet. Except my phone number, cuz I'm lonely.

Can I have your phone number?

 

[Vigilante]

Glad you are here! Stop by and do an intro at the intro section. You also might want to pick up the book The Millionaire Fast Lane! You can grab the first three chapters free here : www.themillionairefastlane.com

Hope to see you around adding more value like this thread! You also might want to go back and click the LIKE button on the responses in this thread. That's the currency here by which you appreciate anyone that responded to your post, whether you agree with them or not.

Great first post!

 

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[theag]

Yo @Vigilante !

"How to give advice without being a condescending a**hole" - https://markmanson.net/how-to-give-advice

 

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[Fox]

Jesus F*cking shitball xxxxx.
You're an absolute retard.

Well if the person fronting you the cash still reads this forum that will probably be the end of the deal right there.

 

[Fox]

Best of luck OP(s)

[HASHTAG]#landfill[/HASHTAG]

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

I'd lean towards no. As in no, I wouldn't trust the guy.

But from his angle, if he's sending you a lot of money and you two have never met, then he probably wants to confirm who you are in case you just steal his money.

Overall: This is a dumb business transaction for the both of you. Too much risk on both your end and his end.

My advice for you: Get a job. Save up some cash. Then use that to flip items. There's no reason you can't save up $5k and keep all the profit.

 

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[ApparentHorizon]

Video call + notarized contract for both of you.

Treat it as you would any biz deal or transaction.

What's with all the emotions?

 

[The-J]

No. [HASHTAG]#landfill[/HASHTAG]

 

[The-J]

If he just wants to give you money he doesn't need anything except a Paypal e-mail address. Moneygram? Wire? What?

Deals in your local area? I'm assuming you're not talking about 5 figures plus money transfer here.

Nothing adds up here, like, at ALL. Driver's license copy? Why?

Sounds like we've got ourselves a Nigerian prince on our hands. No, that's not sarcasm.

I would run, fast and far.

 

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[devine]

You guys have a lot of patience.

 

[Belcher]

I think you need to cool your jets, take a step back and reread the advice that was given to you.

Vig is a legendary contributor for good reason. For all you know he may have similar experiences with trusting others, and getting burnt.
At the end of the day, he took the time to try and offer you advice, all while giving a bit of tough love.

What more could you actually want?

I think a little common sense should come in to play also, no offense.
Do you actually have ANY legitimate reason to trust a random with such valuable information?

I wouldn't.

Even if they were sending me cash, i'd question that too.

 

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[Vigilante]

Dont care, ill get a new IP somewhere down the line if I feel the need to waste our time.

OK. I'll make the decision for you then.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Dont care, ill get a new IP somewhere down the line if I feel the need to waste our time.

And Ill ban the other account as well. a**hole.

 

[Scot]

im cool with that. Im not emotional, just sorta wary and paranoid. And i really wana work with the dude based on what i know.

WIth a video though, what does that accomplish? Sincere question, is it just verify identity?

How much would a cheap plane ticket cost you for a face to face? Meet him, feel him out, sign a legally binding contract.

 

[Vigilante]

Yo @Vigilante !

"How to give advice without being a condescending a**hole" - https://markmanson.net/how-to-give-advice

Ok. Here's some advice.

1. One screen name per poster

2. Don't do business with banned posters but ask for our help

Is that kind enough?

 

[Vigilante]

You are been sought for "something" ...

Offering advice to you would be futile. People here on TFF create their own futures. You must decide whether you want someone else to create "your" future.........Good luck with that dream.

Did you ever stop and think of the amount of time that members here "freely" give to respond to your question.

Lets just take 40 random direct posts from members . We all have to read the thread in it entirety, to tease out , add to, object to, or simply to avoid repetition. We had to articulate a response using our unique experience. I estimate people here on the forum have invested 400 minutes = 6.6 hrs on your thread. When you get a "condescending reply" it's because you are attracting such a reply. There are probably another 6.6 hrs invested from members that just couldn't be bothered to reply.

So there we have 13 hrs of productive time that you have hijacked from this community. Some members here earn in excess of $1000 / hour. Lets take a low average of $100/hour ..Your mentor Bill would be $1300 Sir. You got it for free but still managed to squander it.

Rep+

Remind me I owe you one next time you need anything.

Excellent perspective.

This is why we don't automatically dump posts to [HASHTAG]#landfill[/HASHTAG]

 

[Fox]

You are been sought for "something" ...

Offering advice to you would be futile. People here on TFF create their own futures. You must decide whether you want someone else to create "your" future.........Good luck with that dream.

Did you ever stop and think of the amount of time that members here "freely" give to respond to your question.

Lets just take 40 random direct posts from members . We all have to read the thread in it entirety, to tease out , add to, object to, or simply to avoid repetition. We had to articulate a response using our unique experience. I estimate people here on the forum have invested 400 minutes = 6.6 hrs on your thread. When you get a "condescending reply" it's because you are attracting such a reply. There are probably another 6.6 hrs invested from members that just couldn't be bothered to reply.

So there we have 13 hrs of productive time that you have hijacked from this community. Some members here earn in excess of $1000 / hour. Lets take a low average of $100/hour ..Your mentor Bill would be $1300 Sir. You got it for free but still managed to squander it.

Excellent post. Many of us have huge hourly rates yet newbies get offended when its not the advice they want. We don't just post for the laugh, we take time out of our day to try steer people in the right direction.

OP - you are getting a slap in the face because everyone here knows if you can't make a simple decision on a sketchy deal like this you have bigger problems in your upcoming business career.

Anonymous cash from the internet? What can go wrong.

 

[Vigilante]

well, don't trust you either.

If I were you, I wouldn't trust me either. Why you would you?

I am just a random stranger on the internet on a forum that you just registered on today.

At least you don't trust me. That's a start. Now start extending that to the other people you randomly meet, and I'll have done you a favor through your disdain, even if you don't realize it (yet).

Or, go through with the transaction and learn that way. As I said... doesn't matter either way to anyone but you and the guy why wants your drivers license.

Good luck!

 

[Mr.Chaos]

So you come to a forum of strangers and ask them should you trust another third party stranger....and get upset because someone tells you their opinion? Plenty of people answered your question.



PS: you obviously care.

 

[Ninjakid]

OP's posts are so cringeworthy, I don't even

 

[Raoul Duke]

I'll add one more thing. Then I'll unwatch this thread and put ole boy on ignore.

 

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[Ecom man]

Hi,

I need some input on whether I should move forward with a business partnership.

The guy I'm working with, I have never met, and he is in another state. I found him, in a roundabout way, from this forum. Somebody posted a thread, linking to a thread that HE(the business partner) started...outlining his method of flipping items for profit.

So i noticed that he gave his phone # in the thread, and I called him up. Surprisingly he responded and we talked. I was only hoping to pick his brain, then he mentioned he bankrolls people (fronts the money) for deals their local area. Basically he fronts the cash, i do all the legwork, and we split the profit. I guess he does this with a bunch of people. Totally fine with me, as i need to build capital. Happy to learn and make some cash. The thread was very impressive, and I am inclined to believe he is legit, as far as successfully selling.

We talked throughout the week and last night i found a deal. He agreed it was good, and that we should pursue. He told me he would wire me the money through a moneygram service.

So here comes the main issue:

He then asked me for a copy of my drivers license. I immediately felt...red flag.

Told him i didn;t feel good about that, and he basically wouldn't budge.

I have many more details, but i wana keep this as short as possible. Any opinions? Is this shady?

If you have to ask then the answer is no.

 

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[Mr.Chaos]

Wrong dude. Just dont need the condescending attitude.

And no i was saying that because he's just being a child, sarcastically suggesting i go screw myself.

My advice if he wants your I'd get his ID, and everything in writing. If he screws you over atleast you have his info. Not much else we can suggest. The risk or lack thereof is strictly on you.