I don't want to live on this planet anymore

[Andy Black]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32930" data-quote="BellaPippin" data-source="post: 855293" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855293" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855293">BellaPippin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I know Andy... sometimes I still struggle letting go of that, or stressing myself over helping friends that keep complaining but aren&#039;t really ready to be helped. This friend of mine has 0 self esteem due to many things in his life, and way too often I find myself trying to help him see he&#039;s not a failure; he just tells himself he is all the time, just because things aren&#039;t working the way he wishes right now doesn&#039;t mean that&#039;s how it&#039;s always gonna be, but it&#039;s like talking to a wall. He keeps saying things like &quot;You are right I guess I don&#039;t work hard enough like the millionaires or don&#039;t have the million dollar idea&quot; all sarcastic yet deep down he really really believes it and I just want to scream into a pillow. It ends up being bad for me. <br /> <br /> I feel like a black sheep for all the people at home. A black sheep that is doing well because &quot;I took the easy road and moved to a first world country&quot;. I can only make small talk with all my high school friends, my mom, there&#039;s very few exceptions...because I&#039;m not preaching anything but I can only go so long hearing nonsense before I wanna say &quot;are you listening to yourself&quot; which of course 99% of the time leads no where, so I&#039;ve lost my will to connect. It&#039;s sad! <br /> <br /> I keep telling myself in my head I wanna do what you do (and I do most things as is, no TV, news, newspapers etc.) but a part of me feels bad or guilty about being so disconnected. Like, will I be that person that just isn&#039;t reachable, let friendships go, live in a bubble? I&#039;ve been considering getting a dumbphone for years now, uninstalling the apps wasn&#039;t enough apparently. <br /> <br /> I&#039;m just rambling at this point idk. I&#039;m frustrated lol </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>A few lines that feel relevant. Maybe one will help:<br /> <br /> “Put your own oxygen mask on first.”<br /> <br /> “People listen to experts, they follow leaders.” (Doberman Dan)<br /> <br /> “Help the people in motion.” (Amy Hoy)<br /> <br /> “You can’t steer a parked car.” (James Schramko)<br /> <br /> <br /> You’ve only got one life <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/32930/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="32930" data-username="@BellaPippin">@BellaPippin</a>. I like helping people too, but how much of your own life will you sacrifice to people who can’t or won’t help themselves?<br /> <br /> Maybe listen to “Give and Take”. I found it helpful and liberating.</div>

 

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[MattR82]

<div class="bbWrapper">No need for a dumb phone. Why on earth are you still following people that give you the shits? That&#039;s on you, not facebook.<br /> <br /> I think a lot of people here have a similar problem. None of my high school or local or long time friends match up with or want to hear about stuff we are interested in. They want to talk about the latest survivor episode lol. Whenever I get started on even the most basic stuff they make fun of me and call it a ted talk lol.<br /> <br /> Ignore the shit and try find a new circle of friends/peers. Go to trials at different coworking spaces to find a social one, meetups etc. I&#039;m still looking myself since moving back to Australia from Bali, which was a hot spot for that.</div>

 

[BizyDad]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 36687" data-quote="Almantas" data-source="post: 855393" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855393" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855393">Almantas said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My hypothesis is that high-achievers rarely waste their time on Social Media. They are busy living their lives outside of Social Media and working on their goals. On the other side, most low-achievers often have nothing more interesting to do with their lives than engage in time-consuming comment battles. I recommend working on Social Medial control techniques so it works for you and not against you. The world is full of stupid people, as well as smart ones - they just hang in different places and do different things. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I don&#039;t agree with the hypothesis. I&#039;m lucky to know many high achievers. Most under a certain age understand social media is a tool. That tool often feeds their livelihood.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ll be at a dinner and have someone pull out a Facebook meme. Because high achievers like to laugh too.<br /> <br /> Sometimes it is easier to catch them via Twitter than a phone call. Hit them up on WhatsApp. Etc.<br /> <br /> Is this &quot;wasting time&quot;? Probably not.<br /> <br /> I think the difference is for them, they know how to put social media in it&#039;s proper place in their life. It doesn&#039;t dominate their life.<br /> <br /> But many don&#039;t ignore it.</div>

 

[luniac]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32930" data-quote="BellaPippin" data-source="post: 855063" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855063" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855063">BellaPippin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Edit: Sorry I put that stupid title as a placeholder and then I forgot to replace it for something more relevant. </i><br /> <br /> Disclaimer this is a full-on rant and I just want to complain<br /> <br /> I see this on Facebook since I periodically gotta keep up with the animal videos my mom and dad like to put on my wall:<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/30760/" target="_blank">View attachment 30760</a><br /> <br /> It says &quot;If the ones below get up, the game ends&quot;<br /> <br /> Well haha the ones below are just waiting for the ones on top to drop the next iPhone right? The last TV, the last console, etc etc, except they can&#039;t make ends meet because the greedy banks charge them interest on their maxed out credit cards!<br /> <br /> Friend comments on Facebook &quot;Nah the ones up there never did anything in their lives, they just make bank from people&quot;<br /> <br /> Really? Really MF? Do you know how Rockefeller started? Ford? Oprah? Whatsapp&#039;s founder? Starbucks founder? etc, etc, etc, etc? There&#039;s TONS of examples on Google. Y&#039;all just have excuses for why your life isn&#039;t up to you and it&#039;s always someone else&#039;s greed or w.e. You&#039;re so exploited omg I feel so bad. &quot;This is just feudalism, the one owning the land scratches his a$$ while we work it&quot; Well if you are so noble and smart why don&#039;t you save and get a piece of land of your own? Oh I bet you have an excuse for that too, don&#039;t you.<br /> <br /> <br /> There&#039;s this X ad about stuffed animals that become hoodies popping on my IG feed (which btw only has a few artists and that&#039;s it), just like PillowPets but with hoodies. I go in to ask whether they come up all wrinkled when you unfold them. Random comment &quot;sigh, I don&#039;t see any brown kid, nice ad&quot; What? Did you even look at the whole ad, for starters (because there were several ethnicities, for the sake of the argument), do you realize a small business might not have money to hire a bunch of models and might be using just family friends or w.e....but if you are going to point out representation how about you do it in a less passive aggresive way? Takes the seriousness out of your plea and makes you look like an idiot.<br /> <br /> That&#039;s just today and yesterday.<br /> <br /> WTF is wrong with people? Don&#039;t get me wrong I&#039;m not trying to say I&#039;m morally superior but it&#039;s like this constant battle staying connected to society and just wanting to get a brickphone and keep informed through the little TV headlines on my job&#039;s elevator because I&#039;m so tired of reading nonsense!!<br /> <br /> I&#039;m so disconnected, it even feels lonely. Whatever happened to making a logical argument? Ah no let&#039;s just throw ad-hominem fallacies that&#039;ll work, I win. UGA UGA yo momma so fat real socialism hasn&#039;t been tried yet!! Nordic countries are socialist just because they have welfare and UBI!!<br /> <br /> Hold on how about you rethink that statement? -AH NOOOO, YOU ARE SUCH A SNOWFLAKE FOR POINTING MY FLAWED LOGIC OUT! LOOK AT MY ONE AND ONLY EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTS AT BUZZFEED SAYING YOU ARE WRONG!<br /> <br /> ...<br /> <br /> <br /> I swear I want to be more social why is it so hard to find common sense. I don&#039;t even want to be right most of the time, I just want to exchange ideas. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t delete or hide people with different ideologies. But they make it impossible! I don&#039;t want to look at my phone, then again I don&#039;t want to be isolated, wtf is one supposed to do. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;m a bit of a conspiracy guy, i do believe modern society is structured in a way designed to break your spirit.<br /> <br /> That said, nobody likes a quitter.</div>

 

[Tourmaline]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32930" data-quote="BellaPippin" data-source="post: 855063" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855063" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855063">BellaPippin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> wtf is one supposed to do. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Accept. Entirely.<br /> <br /> Then carry on doing what you see fit to do.</div>

 

[Tourmaline]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855458" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855458" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855458">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m a bit of a conspiracy guy, i do believe modern society is structured in a way designed to break your spirit. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Which modern society are you looking at?</div>

 

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[Kak]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32930" data-quote="BellaPippin" data-source="post: 855063" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855063" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855063">BellaPippin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Edit: Sorry I put that stupid title as a placeholder and then I forgot to replace it for something more relevant. </i><br /> <br /> Disclaimer this is a full-on rant and I just want to complain<br /> <br /> I see this on Facebook since I periodically gotta keep up with the animal videos my mom and dad like to put on my wall:<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/30760/" target="_blank">View attachment 30760</a><br /> <br /> It says &quot;If the ones below get up, the game ends&quot;<br /> <br /> Well haha the ones below are just waiting for the ones on top to drop the next iPhone right? The last TV, the last console, etc etc, except they can&#039;t make ends meet because the greedy banks charge them interest on their maxed out credit cards!<br /> <br /> Friend comments on Facebook &quot;Nah the ones up there never did anything in their lives, they just make bank from people&quot;<br /> <br /> Really? Really MF? Do you know how Rockefeller started? Ford? Oprah? Whatsapp&#039;s founder? Starbucks founder? etc, etc, etc, etc? There&#039;s TONS of examples on Google. Y&#039;all just have excuses for why your life isn&#039;t up to you and it&#039;s always someone else&#039;s greed or w.e. You&#039;re so exploited omg I feel so bad. &quot;This is just feudalism, the one owning the land scratches his a$$ while we work it&quot; Well if you are so noble and smart why don&#039;t you save and get a piece of land of your own? Oh I bet you have an excuse for that too, don&#039;t you.<br /> <br /> <br /> There&#039;s this X ad about stuffed animals that become hoodies popping on my IG feed (which btw only has a few artists and that&#039;s it), just like PillowPets but with hoodies. I go in to ask whether they come up all wrinkled when you unfold them. Random comment &quot;sigh, I don&#039;t see any brown kid, nice ad&quot; What? Did you even look at the whole ad, for starters (because there were several ethnicities, for the sake of the argument), do you realize a small business might not have money to hire a bunch of models and might be using just family friends or w.e....but if you are going to point out representation how about you do it in a less passive aggresive way? Takes the seriousness out of your plea and makes you look like an idiot.<br /> <br /> That&#039;s just today and yesterday.<br /> <br /> WTF is wrong with people? Don&#039;t get me wrong I&#039;m not trying to say I&#039;m morally superior but it&#039;s like this constant battle staying connected to society and just wanting to get a brickphone and keep informed through the little TV headlines on my job&#039;s elevator because I&#039;m so tired of reading nonsense!!<br /> <br /> I&#039;m so disconnected, it even feels lonely. Whatever happened to making a logical argument? Ah no let&#039;s just throw ad-hominem fallacies that&#039;ll work, I win. UGA UGA yo momma so fat real socialism hasn&#039;t been tried yet!! Nordic countries are socialist just because they have welfare and UBI!!<br /> <br /> Hold on how about you rethink that statement? -AH NOOOO, YOU ARE SUCH A SNOWFLAKE FOR POINTING MY FLAWED LOGIC OUT! LOOK AT MY ONE AND ONLY EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTS AT BUZZFEED SAYING YOU ARE WRONG!<br /> <br /> ...<br /> <br /> <br /> I swear I want to be more social why is it so hard to find common sense. I don&#039;t even want to be right most of the time, I just want to exchange ideas. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t delete or hide people with different ideologies. But they make it impossible! I don&#039;t want to look at my phone, then again I don&#039;t want to be isolated, wtf is one supposed to do. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I too spend a lot of time frustrated with the world.<br /> <br /> I am as pessimistic as they come about the direction the mindless masses are going to boldly lead us. This is probably the most demotivating thing I deal with.<br /> <br /> The struggle is real, but push through and get your peace back. We still have a lot of life ahead and squandering more than a pity party’s worth of it it isn’t a realistic option.</div>

 

[luniac]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 68278" data-quote="Tourmaline" data-source="post: 855460" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855460" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855460">Tourmaline said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Which modern society are you looking at? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Western, i live in NYC most of my life.</div>

 

[Kraelog]

<div class="bbWrapper">Social media is a slow-acting poison for the mind. <br /> <br /> Just cut it out of your life and carry on.</div>

 

[BellaPippin]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23590" data-quote="Andy Black" data-source="post: 855422" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855422" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855422">Andy Black said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> “Help the people in motion.” (Amy Hoy)<br /> <br /> “You can’t steer a parked car.” (James Schramko) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I like these. I was thinking the making the horse drink from the water one the other day with my friend and these are similar. I&#039;ve told him what I think a hundred times, but he&#039;s very very stuck. Even with therapy he&#039;s super stuck. I feel bad for him.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 34918" data-quote="MattR82" data-source="post: 855441" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855441" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855441">MattR82 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> None of my high school or local or long time friends match up with or want to hear about stuff we are interested in. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Mine either. We still have the same leisure interests and humor that brought us together and that keeps us catching up with each other but more than the occasional meet reminds me why I moved abroad to try to find a new flock.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 4862" data-quote="Kak" data-source="post: 855469" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855469" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855469">Kak said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> This is probably the most demotivating thing I deal with. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Same here Kak. That&#039;s sort of ultimately what I&#039;m ranting about. Humanity can be so much better than it is, yet we love to skip back and forth between 1984 and Brave New World over and over and over.<br /> <br /> <br /> Ty everyone</div>

 

[Kak]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32930" data-quote="BellaPippin" data-source="post: 855538" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855538" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855538">BellaPippin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Same here Kak. That&#039;s sort of ultimately what I&#039;m ranting about. Humanity can be so much better than it is, yet we love to skip back and forth between 1984 and Brave New World over and over and over. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yep. That is democracy for you unfortunately. We democratize decision making to people that have no business even opining. &quot;Hey economically illiterate loser living in your parent&#039;s basement... What do you think? Make your voice heard!&quot;<br /> <br /> All it takes is 51% to steal from 49% of people with 100% of the law. Let&#039;s not forget that the most nefarious, genocidal, murderous, and oppressive things in history were all legal.<br /> <br /> Despite the fact that I put ZERO hope in government to solve our problems, I am an election judge for my county... Funny enough, my clerks talk about how during the primaries they will ask voters which primary they would like to vote in, as required by law... a disturbing number of them, that showed up at the polls to vote in a primary, will ask what a primary is... With ZERO shame...<br /> <br /> Ultimately competition is going to have to reach governments for this to change. They need to stop treating citizens like cattle (even though most deserve it) and more like customers. The only way that is ever going to happen is more competition. Smaller countries that want to attract the best and brightest are going to have to sting the behemoth central control loving nations where it hurts.<br /> <br /> I AM optimistic that competition will increase among countries in our lifetimes... But I am pretty bearish on the USA ever realizing they need to compete before we travel long down the road to serfdom.</div>

 

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[Almantas]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 72777" data-quote="BizyDad" data-source="post: 855450" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855450" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855450">BizyDad said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t agree with the hypothesis. I&#039;m lucky to know many high achievers. Most under a certain age understand social media is a tool. That tool often feeds their livelihood.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ll be at a dinner and have someone pull out a Facebook meme. Because high achievers like to laugh too.<br /> <br /> Sometimes it is easier to catch them via Twitter than a phone call. Hit them up on WhatsApp. Etc.<br /> <br /> Is this &quot;wasting time&quot;? Probably not.<br /> <br /> I think the difference is for them, they know how to put social media in it&#039;s proper place in their life. It doesn&#039;t dominate their life.<br /> <br /> But many don&#039;t ignore it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Fair point, I think at the end it all depends on how one utilizes social media.</div>

 

[BellaPippin]

<div class="bbWrapper">Love that you are still involved with your community even interacting with it can become really draining. I plan on coming back to it at some point, because otherwise I feel I&#039;ll just be like the ones complaining but not even trying. A portion of someone&#039;s time should always be used in helping one&#039;s village grow IMO.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 4862" data-quote="Kak" data-source="post: 855546" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855546" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855546">Kak said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ultimately competition is going to have to reach governments for this to change. They need to stop treating citizens like cattle and more like customers. The only way that is ever going to happen is more competition. Smaller countries that want to attract the best and brightest are going to have to sting the behemoth central control loving nations where it hurts.<br /> <br /> I AM optimistic that competition will increase among countries in our lifetimes... But I am pretty bearish on the USA ever realizing they need to compete before we travel long down the road to serfdom. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I hope you are right, I have however lost all hope in the whole South American continent. It&#039;s a live painting of the people in Atlas Shrugged, I wish I was exaggerating. Down there people do get treated like customers, except they are given free trials in lieu of a vote and then nothing. That is the only competition there is, because people will vote the same candidates that promised them the solution and left them worse as if they had no memory, back and forth. Reversing a century of inept and openly corrupt governments along with the subsequent damage in education seems science-fiction at this point to me.</div>

 

[Tourmaline]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855472" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855472" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855472">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Western, i live in NYC most of my life. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Where do you see systems designed to break your spirit?<br /> <br /> The video in your sig is quite interesting</div>

 

[Rabby]

<div class="bbWrapper">Ok, since the words &quot;road to serfdom&quot; (Hayek!) and Atlas Shrugged have been mentioned a few times in this thread, I just want to <a href="https://www.atlasnetwork.org/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">link to some good friends you might like</a>.</div>

 

[ChrisV]

<div class="bbWrapper">yea because rich people just sit on their yachts all day smoking cigara<br /> <br /> rich people work infinitely harder (and smarter) than poor people<br /> <br /> but people take comfort in being the victims<br /> <br /> it&#039;s whatever</div>

 

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[luniac]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 68278" data-quote="Tourmaline" data-source="post: 855611" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855611" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855611">Tourmaline said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Where do you see systems designed to break your spirit?<br /> <br /> The video in your sig is quite interesting </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Its a lot of things added up together.<br /> The rent situation is insane, it feels like you&#039;re busy surviving, not living.<br /> I had a 50k job for some time and was only getting 1350 a check, they took 500 F*ckin dollars in taxes a check.<br /> <br /> The level of materialism bothers me to this day, i got an iphone 5S and i feel like a peasant lol cause its so outdated.<br /> <br /> The whole social justice, anti masculinity movement has affected me a bit i wont lie. It makes me feel like I can&#039;t act like a man without being judged negatively for it.<br /> I think this trend is reverting though.<br /> <br /> I get this weird vibe that the society i live in doesn&#039;t want what&#039;s best for me, and if i do what i want i&#039;ll get judged negatively.<br /> It&#039;s probably all in my head, but the question is why did it get in my head in the first place.<br /> <br /> I think a lot of people are not living lives they want to live, its depressing to be surrounded by that.<br /> So if i go for very lofty goals like a fastlane success + being popular with the ladies + being in great shape, athletic, it makes me feel a bit insecure and i feel like i get no social backup to pursue these goals.<br /> <br /> It&#039;s like back in the day, neighborhoods were more tight knit, everyone knew their neighbors, people helped each other. A young man or woman could feel like their community had their back, even in a <b>spiritual </b>sense.<br /> <br /> I don&#039;t feel that backup whatsoever living in NYC, its every man for himself.<br /> That&#039;s why i go to TheFastlaneForum for like minded people, and other forums for my other goals.<br /> <br /> lol i guess i should meet some like minded people in real life, but i haven&#039;t met many like that, i gotta get out more lol<br /> <br /> <br /> That video is about Zhan Zhuang, it helped me so much i practice every day. I recommend it to anyone.</div>

 

[Andy Black]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855684">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> i got an iphone 5S and i feel like a peasant lol cause its so outdated. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>My last phone was a 5S. I liked it because it was small. It’s battery started failing so I bought a second hand 5SE.<br /> <br /> I don’t feel like a peasant though. It never occurred to me that the newness of my phone would have anything to do with how I wealthy I should feel.<br /> <br /> I do a lot of work for my business on that phone. Possibly more than on my PC.</div>

 

[Andy Black]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855684">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I get this weird vibe that the society i live in doesn&#039;t want what&#039;s best for me, and if i do what i want i&#039;ll get judged negatively. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I don’t get any vibe from ”society”. I think everyone is getting on with their lives.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855684">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It&#039;s probably all in my head, but the question is why did it get in my head in the first place. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I had a coaching call years ago. I was wondering why I didn’t do something. <br /> <br /> The coach said:<br /> <br /> ”F*ck why. It only holds you back.” <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855684">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It&#039;s like back in the day, neighborhoods were more tight knit, everyone knew their neighbors, people helped each other. A young man or woman could feel like their community had their back, even in a <b>spiritual </b>sense. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I know quite a lot of people in my town. It’s quite close-knit. Again, everyone is focused on their own lives.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855684">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t feel that backup whatsoever living in NYC, its every man for himself. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>If it’s every man for himself then why is what people think even on your radar?<br /> <br /> <br /> It sounds like you’re in your own way trying to get over obstacles that aren’t even there?<br /> <br /> One simple hack to get out of your own way is to go help someone. <br /> <br /> Help someone and you miraculously forget about yourself and whatever’s going on in your head.</div>

 

[luniac]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23590" data-quote="Andy Black" data-source="post: 855703" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855703" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855703">Andy Black said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My last phone was a 5S. I liked it because it was small. It’s battery started failing so I bought a second hand 5SE.<br /> <br /> I don’t feel like a peasant though. It never occurred to me that the newness of my phone would have anything to do with how I wealthy I should feel.<br /> <br /> I do a lot of work for my business on that phone. Possibly more than on my PC. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> i love it too for its size, most reasonable phone size in my opinion.<br /> Come to america u will be a peasant lol <br /> im half jokin anyway about the phone thing.</div>

 

[Andy Black]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855705" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855705" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855705">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> i love it too for its size, most reasonable phone size in my opinion.<br /> Come to america u will be a peasant lol <br /> im half jokin anyway about the phone thing. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Oh, we have people buying fancy phones here in Ireland too.<br /> <br /> If I came to the US with my phone I wouldn’t be a peasant at all. The model of my phone is totally irrelevant to how I perceive myself. <br /> <br /> What other people think of my phone is totally irrelevant to how I perceive myself. <br /> <br /> What other people think of me is totally irrelevant to how I perceive myself. <br /> <br /> What other people think is totally irrelevant to how I perceive myself.<br /> <br /> Tip: Your mind doesn’t think you’re half joking.</div>

 

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[Andy Black]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 59844" data-quote="Rabby" data-source="post: 855655" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855655" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855655">Rabby said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ok, since the words &quot;road to serfdom&quot; (Hayek!) and Atlas Shrugged have been mentioned a few times in this thread, I just want to <a href="https://www.atlasnetwork.org/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">link to some good friends you might like</a>. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Ooo. Nice share <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/59844/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="59844" data-username="@Rabby">@Rabby</a>. Thanks.<br /> <br /> One of my clients is a charity that helps other charities. I manage their Google Ads Grant. That charity exists to help other charities make a bigger impact.<br /> <br /> This post might tickle you:<br /> &gt; <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/giving-local-workshops.89039/#post-854794" class="link link--internal">EXECUTION - Giving local workshops</a></div>

 

[luniac]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23590" data-quote="Andy Black" data-source="post: 855706" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855706" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855706">Andy Black said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Oh, we have people buying fancy phones here in Ireland too.<br /> <br /> If I came to the US with my phone I wouldn’t be a peasant at all. The model of my phone is totally irrelevant to how I perceive myself. <br /> <br /> What other people think of my phone is totally irrelevant to how I perceive myself. <br /> <br /> What other people think of me is totally irrelevant to how I perceive myself. <br /> <br /> What other people think is totally irrelevant to how I perceive myself.<br /> <br /> Tip: Your mind doesn’t think you’re half joking. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> naw really im joking lol, i personally don&#039;t care, but many do care, thats what i was getting at.</div>

 

[Richard Peck]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32930" data-quote="BellaPippin" data-source="post: 855063" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855063" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855063">BellaPippin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Edit: Sorry I put that stupid title as a placeholder and then I forgot to replace it for something more relevant. </i><br /> <br /> Disclaimer this is a full-on rant and I just want to complain<br /> <br /> I see this on Facebook since I periodically gotta keep up with the animal videos my mom and dad like to put on my wall:<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/30760/" target="_blank">View attachment 30760</a><br /> <br /> It says &quot;If the ones below get up, the game ends&quot;<br /> <br /> Well haha the ones below are just waiting for the ones on top to drop the next iPhone right? The last TV, the last console, etc etc, except they can&#039;t make ends meet because the greedy banks charge them interest on their maxed out credit cards!<br /> <br /> Friend comments on Facebook &quot;Nah the ones up there never did anything in their lives, they just make bank from people&quot;<br /> <br /> Really? Really MF? Do you know how Rockefeller started? Ford? Oprah? Whatsapp&#039;s founder? Starbucks founder? etc, etc, etc, etc? There&#039;s TONS of examples on Google. Y&#039;all just have excuses for why your life isn&#039;t up to you and it&#039;s always someone else&#039;s greed or w.e. You&#039;re so exploited omg I feel so bad. &quot;This is just feudalism, the one owning the land scratches his a$$ while we work it&quot; Well if you are so noble and smart why don&#039;t you save and get a piece of land of your own? Oh I bet you have an excuse for that too, don&#039;t you.<br /> <br /> <br /> There&#039;s this X ad about stuffed animals that become hoodies popping on my IG feed (which btw only has a few artists and that&#039;s it), just like PillowPets but with hoodies. I go in to ask whether they come up all wrinkled when you unfold them. Random comment &quot;sigh, I don&#039;t see any brown kid, nice ad&quot; What? Did you even look at the whole ad, for starters (because there were several ethnicities, for the sake of the argument), do you realize a small business might not have money to hire a bunch of models and might be using just family friends or w.e....but if you are going to point out representation how about you do it in a less passive aggresive way? Takes the seriousness out of your plea and makes you look like an idiot.<br /> <br /> That&#039;s just today and yesterday.<br /> <br /> WTF is wrong with people? Don&#039;t get me wrong I&#039;m not trying to say I&#039;m morally superior but it&#039;s like this constant battle staying connected to society and just wanting to get a brickphone and keep informed through the little TV headlines on my job&#039;s elevator because I&#039;m so tired of reading nonsense!!<br /> <br /> I&#039;m so disconnected, it even feels lonely. Whatever happened to making a logical argument? Ah no let&#039;s just throw ad-hominem fallacies that&#039;ll work, I win. UGA UGA yo momma so fat real socialism hasn&#039;t been tried yet!! Nordic countries are socialist just because they have welfare and UBI!!<br /> <br /> Hold on how about you rethink that statement? -AH NOOOO, YOU ARE SUCH A SNOWFLAKE FOR POINTING MY FLAWED LOGIC OUT! LOOK AT MY ONE AND ONLY EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTS AT BUZZFEED SAYING YOU ARE WRONG!<br /> <br /> ...<br /> <br /> <br /> I swear I want to be more social why is it so hard to find common sense. I don&#039;t even want to be right most of the time, I just want to exchange ideas. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t delete or hide people with different ideologies. But they make it impossible! I don&#039;t want to look at my phone, then again I don&#039;t want to be isolated, wtf is one supposed to do. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 4862" data-quote="Kak" data-source="post: 855546" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855546" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855546">Kak said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Yep. That is democracy for you unfortunately. We democratize decision making to people that have no business even opining. &quot;Hey economically illiterate loser living in your parent&#039;s basement... What do you think? Make your voice heard!&quot;<br /> <br /> All it takes is 51% to steal from 49% of people with 100% of the law. Let&#039;s not forget that the most nefarious, genocidal, murderous, and oppressive things in history were all legal.<br /> <br /> Despite the fact that I put ZERO hope in government to solve our problems, I am an election judge for my county... Funny enough, my clerks talk about how during the primaries they will ask voters which primary they would like to vote in, as required by law... a disturbing number of them, that showed up at the polls to vote in a primary, will ask what a primary is... With ZERO shame...<br /> <br /> Ultimately competition is going to have to reach governments for this to change. They need to stop treating citizens like cattle (even though most deserve it) and more like customers. The only way that is ever going to happen is more competition. Smaller countries that want to attract the best and brightest are going to have to sting the behemoth central control loving nations where it hurts.<br /> <br /> I AM optimistic that competition will increase among countries in our lifetimes... But I am pretty bearish on the USA ever realizing they need to compete before we travel long down the road to serfdom. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/4862/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="4862" data-username="@Kak">@Kak</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/32930/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="32930" data-username="@BellaPippin">@BellaPippin</a>, I believe it has been an issue since time immemorial.<br /> <br /> Plato solved it allegorically with the idea of the &quot;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosopher_king" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener"><u>philosopher king</u></a>&quot; - a tyrannical ruler who puts the love of philosophy + his (or her) people above all. Most consider Marcus Aurelius one of the more pertinent examples.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="fLJBzhcSWTk"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fLJBzhcSWTk?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk</a></span></i><br /> <br /> The book in which this is mentioned is called &quot;The Republic&quot;. Although I&#039;ve read a copy, the only two real points of value I gleaned from it where the idea of &quot;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave#:~:text=The%20allegory%20of%20the%20cave,Socrates%2C%20narrated%20by%20the%20latter." target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener"><u>Plato&#039;s Allegory of the Cave</u></a>&quot; &amp; that of the philosopher king.<br /> <br /> In modern times, Singapore&#039;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener"><u>LKY</u></a> is most likely the closest to such an individual. Margaret Thatcher, possibly, too. My friend Ludvig Sunstrom <a href="https://startgainingmomentum.com/9-lessons-you-can-learn-from-lee-kuan-yew-lky/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener"><u>wrote about him</u></a>, after he died. I could be wrong, of course.</div>

 

[Tourmaline]

<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13251/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13251" data-username="@luniac">@luniac</a><br /> <br /> There&#039;s certainly a lot that seems like it goes against each individual as you describe. Are you considering the things that go for us?<br /> <br /> Where and/or when has it ever been better?</div>

 

[BellaPippin]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 44058" data-quote="rpeck90" data-source="post: 855710" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855710" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855710">rpeck90 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/4862/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="4862" data-username="@Kak">@Kak</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/32930/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="32930" data-username="@BellaPippin">@BellaPippin</a>, I believe it has been an issue since time immemorial.<br /> <br /> Plato solved it allegorically with the idea of the &quot;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosopher_king" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>philosopher king</u></a>&quot; - a tyrannical ruler who puts the love of philosophy + his (or her) people above all. Most consider Marcus Aurelius one of the more pertinent examples.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="fLJBzhcSWTk"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fLJBzhcSWTk?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk</a></span></i><br /> <br /> The book in which this is mentioned is called &quot;The Republic&quot;. Although I&#039;ve read a copy, the only two real points of value I gleaned from it where the idea of &quot;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave#:~:text=The%20allegory%20of%20the%20cave,Socrates%2C%20narrated%20by%20the%20latter." target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>Plato&#039;s Allegory of the Cave</u></a>&quot; &amp; that of the philosopher king.<br /> <br /> In modern times, Singapore&#039;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>LKY</u></a> is most likely the closest to such an individual. Margaret Thatcher, possibly, too. My friend Ludvig Sunstrom <a href="https://startgainingmomentum.com/9-lessons-you-can-learn-from-lee-kuan-yew-lky/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>wrote about him</u></a>, after he died. I could be wrong, of course. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I remember a video explaining (or more like, making a point) that the democracy we have to day it&#039;s not the way Greek&#039;s democracy. Representatives there were elected pretty much by raffle from the crowd, and if they didn&#039;t show results/championed useful laws and presented solutions to stuff within a certain period they were out. That looked way more like &quot;the government of the people&quot; Ill watch that video as soon as I can.<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 59844" data-quote="Rabby" data-source="post: 855655" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855655" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855655">Rabby said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ok, since the words &quot;road to serfdom&quot; (Hayek!) and Atlas Shrugged have been mentioned a few times in this thread, I just want to <a href="https://www.atlasnetwork.org/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">link to some good friends you might like</a>. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I was only able to watch their homepage video so far but at first sight that is awesome and I&#039;m so happy that exists!!<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 13251" data-quote="luniac" data-source="post: 855684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855684">luniac said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> i got an iphone 5S and i feel like a peasant lol cause its so outdated. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;ve got a 6S right after my 6S Plus died in 2016 after an accident involving my toilet, then around a year ago I just replaced the battery for a new one for fiddy bucks, running good these days. Honestly no upgrade after the 6&#039;s I felt I was attracted to. Not even the camera. If I need to run heavy stuff I have a computer for that. I&#039;m onto the 12 as (supposedly) fingerprint is coming back and I&#039;m curious about how they are betting on AR technologies and ok I&#039;ll say it again in case you don&#039;t know it yet... 12 is my fav number lmao. But even then I feel I&#039;m trying to talk myself into buying it way too harder than I should. The plan is usually &quot;when this one dies I&#039;ll get the cheapest available on the line at that moment&quot; and I know that will be more than enough for my needs, and still be a pretty, stylish color. I really dislike Android UI so that is what&#039;s been working for me. Usually the trade in covers like half of the phone, too, that way (they are always paid cash, since they end up being cheap)</div>

 

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[BellaPippin]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 44058" data-quote="rpeck90" data-source="post: 855710" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855710" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855710">rpeck90 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/4862/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="4862" data-username="@Kak">@Kak</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/32930/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="32930" data-username="@BellaPippin">@BellaPippin</a>, I believe it has been an issue since time immemorial.<br /> <br /> Plato solved it allegorically with the idea of the &quot;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosopher_king" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>philosopher king</u></a>&quot; - a tyrannical ruler who puts the love of philosophy + his (or her) people above all. Most consider Marcus Aurelius one of the more pertinent examples.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="fLJBzhcSWTk"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fLJBzhcSWTk?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk</a></span></i><br /> <br /> The book in which this is mentioned is called &quot;The Republic&quot;. Although I&#039;ve read a copy, the only two real points of value I gleaned from it where the idea of &quot;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave#:~:text=The%20allegory%20of%20the%20cave,Socrates%2C%20narrated%20by%20the%20latter." target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>Plato&#039;s Allegory of the Cave</u></a>&quot; &amp; that of the philosopher king.<br /> <br /> In modern times, Singapore&#039;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>LKY</u></a> is most likely the closest to such an individual. Margaret Thatcher, possibly, too. My friend Ludvig Sunstrom <a href="https://startgainingmomentum.com/9-lessons-you-can-learn-from-lee-kuan-yew-lky/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>wrote about him</u></a>, after he died. I could be wrong, of course. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I feel going back that much and get a few interviews with these people in Ancient Greece would be a GREAT use of a time machine.</div>

 

[luniac]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 68278" data-quote="Tourmaline" data-source="post: 855767" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855767" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855767">Tourmaline said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13251/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13251" data-username="@luniac">@luniac</a><br /> <br /> There&#039;s certainly a lot that seems like it goes against each individual as you describe. Are you considering the things that go for us?<br /> <br /> Where and/or when has it ever been better? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> well like i said, wasn&#039;t there a sense of community back in the day? neighborhoods were more tight knit.<br /> <br /> I didn&#039;t even mention things like Big Food, Big Pharma. there&#039;s so much misinformation out there about how to eat right, how to take care of your health right.<br /> People are being led astray by over saturation of BS.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 32930" data-quote="BellaPippin" data-source="post: 855839" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855839" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855839">BellaPippin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;ve got a 6S right after my 6S Plus died in 2016 after an accident involving my toilet, then around a year ago I just replaced the battery for a new one for fiddy bucks, running good these days. Honestly no upgrade after the 6&#039;s I felt I was attracted to. Not even the camera. If I need to run heavy stuff I have a computer for that. I&#039;m onto the 12 as (supposedly) fingerprint is coming back and I&#039;m curious about how they are betting on AR technologies and ok I&#039;ll say it again in case you don&#039;t know it yet... 12 is my fav number lmao. But even then I feel I&#039;m trying to talk myself into buying it way too harder than I should. The plan is usually &quot;when this one dies I&#039;ll get the cheapest available on the line at that moment&quot; and I know that will be more than enough for my needs, and still be a pretty, stylish color. I really dislike Android UI so that is what&#039;s been working for me. Usually the trade in covers like half of the phone, too, that way (they are always paid cash, since they end up being cheap) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> lol i don&#039;t even buy my phones at apple, ebay all day.<br /> couldn&#039;t care less about fingerprinting tech, in fact im actively against giving them my fingerprint, thats the conspiracy theorist in me talking.<br /> <br /> It blows my mind paying 1000+ bucks for a phone, for that price i can build a very powerful computer lol<br /> the nice camera does entice me, but wtf you can get a DSLR Camera for 400 bucks that has way better quality anyway, cause its an actual frickin camera lol!</div>

 

[SDE]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 44058" data-quote="rpeck90" data-source="post: 855710" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=855710" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-855710">rpeck90 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> In modern times, Singapore&#039;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>LKY</u></a> is most likely the closest to such an individual. Margaret Thatcher, possibly, too. My friend Ludvig Sunstrom <a href="https://startgainingmomentum.com/9-lessons-you-can-learn-from-lee-kuan-yew-lky/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><u>wrote about him</u></a>, after he died. I could be wrong, of course. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Thanks for sharing <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/44058/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="44058" data-username="@rpeck90">@rpeck90</a>. It was worth a read.</div>

 

[ChrisV]

<div class="bbWrapper">I really don&#039;t want to live on this planet anymore.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/corona-beer-sales-taking-hit-because-coronavirus-outbreak/ORXV24ZXMZAZDJCBIM7K55MRUE/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">Corona beer stock takes hit because of coronavirus outbreak</a></div>