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Don't build an audience? Build relationships?
Correction: Relationship! Changing my mindset seems easier than it is, but even referring to customers as an audience rather than relationships, automatically dismisses them as a spectator rather than a consumer involved in the process! Thanks for the reminder!
 

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Correction: Relationship! Changing my mindset seems easier than it is, but even referring to customers as an audience rather than relationships, automatically dismisses them as a spectator rather than a consumer involved in the process! Thanks for the reminder!
Blimey... and then this post popped up straight after: Stop Building Stuff
 

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I've been joining a lot of groups lately. Learning about online course creation. Seen a few people giving out some great advice and value, but overall it's overwhelmingly full of people just trying to hook people in.

I'm aware of it, and see right through it, but a tonne of people don't. It's a bit of a cancer...

Don't post shit with no value. Don't add people as a friend and send them bs messages pretending to be friendly and in the same position as them when all you are trying to do is sell to them. Don't post dumb effing fake pics of your "new house in spain"

I'm so sick of these leeches, and the course creation scene seems to be full of them. Sad thing is they are on both sides though. One of these guys asked to see what course everyone is working on (so he can fish them later, he also happened to forget to reply to the questions asking what his course is about, I'll let you guess what it is lol), but the results were not pretty.

Huge lack of people selling courses on anything worthwhile. God damn there is a bunch of crap out there. But that's for another topic.
 
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I've been joining a lot of groups lately. Learning about online course creation. Seen a few people giving out some great advice and value, but overall it's overwhelmingly full of people just trying to hook people in.

I'm aware of it, and see right through it, but a tonne of people don't. It's a bit of a cancer...

Don't post shit with no value. Don't add people as a friend and send them bs messages pretending to be friendly and in the same position as them when all you are trying to do is sell to them. Don't post dumb effing fake pics of your "new house in spain"

I'm so sick of these leeches, and the course creation scene seems to be full of them. Sad thing is they are on both sides though. One of these guys asked to see what course everyone is working on (so he can fish them later, he also happened to forget to reply to the questions asking what his course is about, I'll let you guess what it is lol), but the results were not pretty.

Huge lack of people selling courses on anything worthwhile. God damn there is a bunch of crap out there. But that's for another topic.
It's super simple to stand out though.

Never ask people to PM you.

Never plug your course or services.

Add value with no expectation of anything in return.
 

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It's super simple to stand out though.

Never ask people to PM you.

Never plug your course or services.

Add value with no expectation of anything in return.
Exactly.

Was just bombarded by these guys the last few weeks so thought it was worth a mention.
 

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Blimey... and then this post popped up straight after: Stop Building Stuff
A little update, other than joining a couple of groups and posting a one time link to my blog in these groups I haven't done anything to promote my writings as of yet. The more I get into it, the more I wonder if the information I have to share is even valuable to these people, as every person in my field seems to think they already know everything! I have had about 55 visits to my blog, and one who has given good feedback. I'm wondering if switching direction, and creating an automotive parts sales site, that will translate into a brick and mortar is the more feasible option at this point.
 
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In other news...

I deleted the Facebook app from my phone and have effectively stopped posting in Facebook groups. I check Facebook everyday in case someone from my own private group has posted a question or otherwise needs help.


Why have I dropped out of Facebook groups?

Dayum but Mr Zuckerberg is 100% focused on turning me into his consumer.

It was worth deep-diving into Facebook groups to see what's happening, how it's happening, and why it's happening.

I was able to help people, but the worst of it was the transient nature of all content produced. I found myself writing the same things out again and again.

I couldn't find previous content I'd written as it was buried deep beneath the content produced in the last few hours.

The good thing about forums is you can find previous threads and link to them. Threads can also run for years on forums, whereas they seem to be designed to have a very limited shelf-life on Facebook.

Be careful of being turned into a consumer! Even trying to help people and be a producer I ended up having to consume the same questions again and again.
 

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Man, things are getting out of control in Facebook groups now. Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed the change in the last 3 months. People are starting to get seriously fed up. The value is dropping and using it for selling, no matter how well they try and hide it, is on the rise. A few good groups are plain garbage now. Poor admin is also to blame.
 

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Man, things are getting out of control in Facebook groups now. Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed the change in the last 3 months. People are starting to get seriously fed up. The value is dropping and using it for selling, no matter how well they try and hide it, is on the rise. A few good groups are plain garbage now. Poor admin is also to blame.
I'd say that's all down to poor admin? @Fox has a swift ban hammer and that keeps his group a valuable resource.

Hmm... maybe I should correct that. Is it down to Facebook groups becoming a "channel" for lead generation, and admins now have to fight hard to keep the spammers and trolls out of their groups?

And trying to find the why behind the why... Why are Facebook groups (becoming?) such a big channel for spammers now?


Immediately after my last post I wondered if other producers (of content) might be losing the will to live in Facebook groups too? Are they also dropping out as they find themselves consuming too much?

Anyway... my business is helping DFY folks, who are typically busy business owners who are less likely to be found on Facebook in the first place.

I don't feel like I'm on a slippery slope now.
 

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I'd say that's all down to poor admin? @Fox has a swift ban hammer and that keeps his group a valuable resource.

Hmm... maybe I should correct that. Is it down to Facebook groups becoming a "channel" for lead generation, and admins now have to fight hard to keep the spammers and trolls out of their groups?

And trying to find the why behind the why... Why are Facebook groups (becoming?) such a big channel for spammers now?
Fox's group is like a diamond in the rough.

I dunno, it almost seems to me that admin in some of those other groups have gone on siesta and just don't give a crap anymore. You don't see regular posts from the admin or moderators in those ones either, which seems to be a common denominator. And some of them have over 50k members.
 

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There is a lot going on with FB groups right now and it will be interesting to see which way it goes.

Lots of groups in the business/entrepreneur stage are trying to group hack their way to big numbers.
They do this in quite a few ways but the end result is a "super active" group that doesn't really stand for anything. There is a lot of engagement but the signal to noise ratio is way off. It is very tempting to go down that road but I try avoid it and stick to having a really solid community.

I struggle a lot with my group in many ways. It is just over a year now and I am around 4,500 people. On one hand I would love more engagement (even though its at around 20,000 comments/likes a month) but I also want to keep quality really, really high. I always want to respect the time of anyone who checks out the page. So if it is a super high value poster who just dropped a massive post or it is a newbie I want to make sure they have a great experience. Just like a nightclub you got to look after the people who are bringing everyone else to the club.

The other side of that is removing anyone who brings a negative experience to others. These might be spammers, people looking to feed off your group for their own gain, idiots, or just people who are in the wrong place. I either try correct them or just straight ban them depending on what I think their intentions are. Just got to not be afraid to ban even if it is people who have been around for a while. There are plenty of other groups so if people aren't on board to help others I remove them fast.

The next year will be really interesting as I start doing YouTube and the group probably becomes much more popular. I want to try keep the culture but also see if it is possible to grow a little faster. Thats the main challenge right now.
 

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Also a lot going on with Facebook playing around with the organic reach of groups. Not long till fb completely monetizes it I suppose. One group I quite liked has dropped off my timeline almost completely. Not yours though fox.

There's still a lot that can be done in groups and I still learn a tonne and really enjoy them, and plan to start my own next year, but the landscape is definitely changing from when this thread was started, that's for sure.
 

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Thank you for this post! I've been told that I should make a survey or some ability to gauge whether the service I plan on offering is in need, so this provides me with the information I need to get closer to the demographics I am trying to reach.
 
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Thank you for this post! I've been told that I should make a survey or some ability to gauge whether the service I plan on offering is in need, so this provides me with the information I need to get closer to the demographics I am trying to reach.
Maybe it would help to reframe?

From

"the demographics I am trying to reach"

To

"the people I am trying to help"


Personally, I wouldn't survey people. I'd get in there. Help people there and then. Take it to a call if they reach out.

What would happen if you engaged the market in hand-to-hand combat instead of surveying them?

What would happen if you welcomed the high-friction?
 

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What would happen if you engaged the market in hand-to-hand combat instead of surveying them?

What would happen if you welcomed the high-friction?
I once heard a saying that went like this:

'If you want to know me, come and live with me!'
 

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Maybe it would help to reframe?

From

"the demographics I am trying to reach"

To

"the people I am trying to help"


Personally, I wouldn't survey people. I'd get in there. Help people there and then. Take it to a call if they reach out.

What would happen if you engaged the market in hand-to-hand combat instead of surveying them?

What would happen if you welcomed the high-friction?
Thank you, you're correct! I just read the section in Unscripted about the Wonder Twins and about being in business to provide value and helping others, reinforcing the purpose. So, yes, reaching out to those I aim to help.

I came upon this thread when you posted the link in the thread about surveys and forums/Facebook groups. Do you believe a "feasibility study" is required when determining if your business is offering value? The business I am trying to create is a directory service, so I met with my new mentor recently to get his thoughts and he suggested I create a survey to truly determine if there is a need by customers and see if on the other hand business owners would be willing to cooperate and provide their information.
 
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Thank you, you're correct! I just read the section in Unscripted about the Wonder Twins and about being in business to provide value and helping others, reinforcing the purpose. So, yes, reaching out to those I aim to help.

I came upon this thread when you posted the link in the thread about surveys and forums/Facebook groups. Do you believe a "feasibility study" is required when determining if your business is offering value? The business I am trying to create is a directory service, so I met with my new mentor recently to get his thoughts and he suggested I create a survey to truly determine if there is a need by customers and see if on the other hand business owners would be willing to cooperate and provide their information.
I just replied to something similar on the inside. I'll drop it in a post on the outside and link to it from here.

For some reason I doubt @MJ DeMarco surveyed loads of limo company owners to find out if they wanted to be in a directory.

Hint: No-one wants to be in a directory. They just want more leads and sales.
 

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I just replied to something similar on the inside. I'll drop it in a post on the outside and link to it from here.

For some reason I doubt @MJ DeMarco surveyed loads of limo company owners to find out if they wanted to be in a directory.

Hint: No-one wants to be in a directory. They just want more leads and sales.
That was my thought process too, thank you
 

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Rules of the game:

1) You can't say you're an expert in it. You can only show it.

2) You can't PM people offering help, or ask them to PM you. They have to PM *you* because they liked what you've done and want to know more.

What would you do differently, and how differently would it play out?
Point 1 seems so apt recently.

“Show don’t tell.”
 

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How to use forums (and Facebook groups)

I'm going to braindump some of my learnings about using Forums and Facebook groups.

Spammers won't get it, but I'll direct them here and they may slow down long enough to learn something.



For those trying to "validate a need" (I kinda hate that phrase), then forums and Facebook groups are a fantastic resource. Not only do people nicely group themselves for you, but they'll chatter about problems and issues they have. They'll also ask questions and you can respond by answering them.

I've produced a ridiculous amount of evergreen content by chattering away in forums, noticing where I repeat myself, then creating threads to point to in future.

In case you didn't spot the parallel to building a business:
  1. I find and engage the market - where they are already.
  2. I respond to questions and problems people already have.
  3. I immediately help people instead of "building stuff".
  4. If I find myself answering the same question over and over again - I go create a solution that I can point people to all the time.
  5. Before I create the thread (solution) I already know it will help lots of people - because it's a need that many people have already had.
  6. The content (solution) was created out of solving real-world problems, rather than solving problems I think people have.
Added benefits:
  1. I immediately start getting known as "The XYZ Guy" - because I help people with XYZ.
  2. People already start reaching out to me about XYZ problem.
  3. People already start referring me to others who have XYZ problem.


Why create a blog and try and find out what content helps people and resonates with people when you can go help people immediately in a busy forum or Facebook group?

Why stare at a blank page struggling to create a new blog post when you can help people immediately in a forum or Facebook group?

Why try and get your blog ranked when a forum already has a much better SEO juice than you'll likely ever get.

Finally... if your goal is to help people and build relationships (hint: do this and get paid then you're in business), then why the feck don't you do that immediately instead of "building stuff"?
I’ll be implementing this immediately.

Good stuff Andy.
 
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An example of a post dropped into a Facebook group where a cleaning biz owner asked how to grow his business without advertising.

It’s probably taken me 30 minutes to write this (or more?).

Now I’ll reuse the heck out it and post to other Facebook groups of cleaning biz owners. Why? Because I don’t see this as self promotion but as doing them a disservice by not posting.

Growing your business without spending money on advertising
 

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How to use forums (and Facebook groups)

I'm going to braindump some of my learnings about using Forums and Facebook groups.

Spammers won't get it, but I'll direct them here and they may slow down long enough to learn something.



For those trying to "validate a need" (I kinda hate that phrase), then forums and Facebook groups are a fantastic resource. Not only do people nicely group themselves for you, but they'll chatter about problems and issues they have. They'll also ask questions and you can respond by answering them.

I've produced a ridiculous amount of evergreen content by chattering away in forums, noticing where I repeat myself, then creating threads to point to in future.

In case you didn't spot the parallel to building a business:
  1. I find and engage the market - where they are already.
  2. I respond to questions and problems people already have.
  3. I immediately help people instead of "building stuff".
  4. If I find myself answering the same question over and over again - I go create a solution that I can point people to all the time.
  5. Before I create the thread (solution) I already know it will help lots of people - because it's a need that many people have already had.
  6. The content (solution) was created out of solving real-world problems, rather than solving problems I think people have.
Added benefits:
  1. I immediately start getting known as "The XYZ Guy" - because I help people with XYZ.
  2. People already start reaching out to me about XYZ problem.
  3. People already start referring me to others who have XYZ problem.


Why create a blog and try and find out what content helps people and resonates with people when you can go help people immediately in a busy forum or Facebook group?

Why stare at a blank page struggling to create a new blog post when you can help people immediately in a forum or Facebook group?

Why try and get your blog ranked when a forum already has a much better SEO juice than you'll likely ever get.

Finally... if your goal is to help people and build relationships (hint: do this and get paid then you're in business), then why the feck don't you do that immediately instead of "building stuff"?
THANK YOU for posting. I believe that this aproach is also a blueprint for business in general. Businesess are built for people not for profit, at least they should be constructed this way. Profit is just an indicator of how much value you offered. Profit is a symptom.

It's paradoxical how in order to care for our needs we have to take care of the needs of others

Your post helped me directly as I recently started a personal blog and my main traffic source is FB (also considering blogs now). You helped at least one person here. Once again, thank you!
 
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THANK YOU for posting. I believe that this aproach is also a blueprint for business in general. Businesess are built for people not for profit, at least they should be constructed this way. Profit is just an indicator of how much value you offered. Profit is a symptom.

It's paradoxical how in order to care for our needs we have to take care of the needs of others

Your post helped me directly as I recently started a personal blog and my main traffic source is FB (also considering blogs now). You helped at least one person here. Once again, thank you!
Thank *you* for reading and your thoughtful reply.

As @MJ DeMarco has said “Money is proof you helped your fellow man.”

One of my favourite quotes, along with Mother Theresa’s in my signature.



EDIT: “Profit is a symptom.” Powerful quote.


EDIT2: Mindset shift: don’t call it traffic.
 

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I think Facebook groups vs Forums is like radio vs podcasts. I forgot which book. But MJ talks about how he prefers podcasts because they are permanent.

I love this forum . Every single question I have has interesting answers. I always Google my question + fastlane forums these days.

So if u want a place to start, add value to this forum. I'm sure other pp search the same way I do. + U get the awesome feeling of pp calling u out on bs when u r not.:)
 
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Bump for many good reasons.
  1. Great content shared by @Andy Black as always.
  2. Great discussion on how to use Facebook Groups.
Facebook groups are literally CHANGING THE GAME for my business.

Every single day I am in there looking for new ones that get closer and closer to my target market for my business.

Every single day I am in there posting valuable knowledge bombs to help people out with their questions.

Every single day more and more people reach out to ME to connect and learn more about me and my business.

Throughout this process I am constantly building a growing network of like minded individuals (akin to Fastlaners) with whom we all help one another out in one way or another. It's an incredibly powerful thing given the reach to incredibly targeted group of people. No longer does moving mountains take months, but rather seconds to days when you find the "zone".

Just from Facebook groups and Facebook prospecting, my business is on track to multiply monthly revenues 10x over the next few months. Just through this channel.

Word begins to spread like wildfire and that's a great thing when the word is good. Provide value to as many people as best you can, and the market will repay you in dividends. Facebook groups just make that really, really easy to do with the right approach and consistency.
 
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Sigh...
 
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This Thread is amazing. Thanks for the gold nuggets.

Of course I already am in some Facebook groups and already tried to help some of the people there. But here's where I struggle:

Maybe it's just that the german market is simply smaller, thus fewer people who post their problems, but somehow I can't find more than 3 relevant facebook groups about google ads, for example.
Finding Forums is even worse. I was looking for an online business forum in Austria. Eventually I found one, but it has only 5 (!) members.
I joined anyways because 5 is still bigger than 0. So I'm now their 6th member xD

How do you guys go about this? How do you find "enough" people that you can help with your expertise?
 
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This Thread is amazing. Thanks for the gold nuggets.

Of course I already am in some Facebook groups and already tried to help some of the people there. But here's where I struggle:

Maybe it's just that the german market is simply smaller, thus fewer people who post their problems, but somehow I can't find more than 3 relevant facebook groups about google ads, for example.
Finding Forums is even worse. I was looking for an online business forum in Austria. Eventually I found one, but it has only 5 (!) members.
I joined anyways because 5 is still bigger than 0. So I'm now their 6th member xD

How do you guys go about this? How do you find "enough" people that you can help with your expertise?
As a Google Ads Guy, I cant stand being in Google Ads groups. The conversation is boring, argumentative, and too many people are pitching.

I much prefer being in business groups where the conversation is good and where I can take off my coat and stay a while.
 

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As a Google Ads Guy, I cant stand being in Google Ads groups. The conversation is boring, argumentative, and too many people are pitching.

I much prefer being in business groups where the conversation is good and where I can take off my coat and stay a while.
Got it and I see that you can help people in various situations. But then again, how do they identify you as the Google Ads guy and come back to you with their problems?
 
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Got it and I see that you can help people in various situations. But then again, how do they identify you as the Google Ads guy and come back to you with their problems?
I’m not in any groups trying to be any type of guy. It’s just that over a period of time of helping folks they get to know what I’m good at. Find groups you want to be in, and join in the conversation. Become a valuable member, someone people want to engage with.
 

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I’m not in any groups trying to be any type of guy. It’s just that over a period of time of helping folks they get to know what I’m good at. Find groups you want to be in, and join in the conversation. Become a valuable member, someone people want to engage with.
I absolutely agree. Facebook and LinkedIn ads can be good, I'm not knocking them, but I've had a lot of great networking and responses on forums just because my strengths do lie in people skills. A lot of people crave that customer service aspect that tends to go missing in digital marketing. A key reason for the success of forums is that authenticity: people have to invest in one another and glean lessons from each other. If you put in the value, you will get it back. I love knowing there are actual people on the other side of the screen with lives, and they can tell me what matters to them or the real world practice of certain things.
 
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