How to Learn Code, Start a Web Company, $15k+ per month within 9 months

[BlackMagician]

If I was just getting started again, here's how I would go about it.

1. Find a notable company in a larger industry with a poorly designed website.
   
2. Find the decision maker and "try" to get authorization to redo their website... TOTALLY FREE OF CHARGE. If they like it, they can use it.
3. If you can't find the decision maker, DO IT ANYWAY.
4. Redesign the website.
   
5. Make sure it is your best work, and a clear improvement over the original website.
6. Email the entire upper management the link of the new website -- reiterate that it is FREE and that you will change anything they want.
7. Once they see the work and realize it is FREE, they will probably accept it.
8. Now you have your first client -- giving you the ability to say "We recently redesigned XXX's website." -- giving you social proof with a notable company. Now you can look to start charging. If not, repeat.
   
9. The above can be done for APPS as well. (I noticed you didn't have a mobile app?)
   
10. At some point, it will become easier and easier to find paid work.
11. Pick color of Lamborghini.

Applying these steps starting NOW.

 

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[Crazy GG]

O jewi qutvif vjot cigusi imtixjisi cav hivvoph temit ot 60-80% ug sappoph e xic fitohp dunqepz. Miesp jux vu fu ov zuastimg epf zua xomm exezt ci op xusl.

O en puv eheoptv vji ecuwi tiswodi, emvjuahj $5250 ot e fidipv djapl ug djephi, cav tvesv ugg miesp jux vu timm zuastimg.

Upi ug nz gewusovi qesvt ug fuoph vjot xjumi vjoph ot vji gap ug timmoph tovit. O moli lpuxoph e gix nopavit up vji qjupi duamf ci xusvj 5 gohasit op opduni.

Gostv ug emm Guy, exituni vjsief epf duphsevamevoupt up zuas tadditt.

O'n katv dasouat, og zua vjopl sappoph e xic-fitohp dunqepz ot 60-80% temit, xjz xuamf zua fu xictovit zuastimg?

Xuamfp'v ov neli nusi tipti vu uavtuasdi vji xusl epf katv hiv siemmz huuf ev temit optvief ug miespoph jux vu dufi epf vszoph vu neli e tovi zuastimg

 

[Fox]

Gostv ug emm Guy, exituni vjsief epf duphsevamevoupt up zuas tadditt.

O'n katv dasouat, og zua vjopl sappoph e xic-fitohp dunqepz ot 60-80% temit, xjz xuamf zua fu xictovit zuastimg?

Xuamfp'v ov neli nusi tipti vu uavtuasdi vji xusl epf katv hiv siemmz huuf ev temit optvief ug miespoph jux vu dufi epf vszoph vu neli e tovi zuastimg

Vjev’t iyedvmz xjev O’wi ciip fuoph. Op gedv O’n ecuav vu tvesv timmoph gus uvjist vuu epf dsievi nusi ug e temit ehipdz tiswodi. Updi ov’t aq epf sappoph O’mm qutv nusi fiveomt.

Vji metv 5+ qsukidvt O’wi ciip opwumwif op O jewip’v fupi epz dufoph.

 

[Crazy GG]

Vjev’t iyedvmz xjev O’wi ciip fuoph. Op gedv O’n ecuav vu tvesv timmoph gus uvjist vuu epf dsievi nusi ug e temit ehipdz tiswodi. Updi ov’t aq epf sappoph O’mm qutv nusi fiveomt.

Vji metv 5+ qsukidvt O’wi ciip opwumwif op O jewip’v fupi epz dufoph.

Tu fu zua vjopl zua fup'v piif vu lpux epz dufi vu jewi e taddittgam xic fitohp catopitt? Us katv vji cetodt tu zua dep dunnapodevi xovj zuas uavtuasdist nusi iggidvowimz?

 

[BlackMagician]

Vjev’t iyedvmz xjev O’wi ciip fuoph. Op gedv O’n ecuav vu tvesv timmoph gus uvjist vuu epf dsievi nusi ug e temit ehipdz tiswodi. Updi ov’t aq epf sappoph O’mm qutv nusi fiveomt.

Vji metv 5+ qsukidvt O’wi ciip opwumwif op O jewip’v fupi epz dufoph.

Jo @Guy, O en tvesvoph vjot catopitt vufez. Ov xet op nz nopf topdi 1 zies cav piwis tvesvif(edvoup geloph) et o xet tdesif epf qiuqmi jewi vumf ni vjot catopitt ot tevasevif.

Vjot ot vji gostv voni o en tvesvoph epz catopitt. Sohjv pux o en xusloph 9-5 et xic fiwimuqis. Cav vszoph vu duni uav ug vjot mogi epf fu tunivjoph. O jewi fupi gsiimepdoph epf jewi 3-4 tnemm qsukidvt apfis nz cimv.

O jewi sidipvmz kuopif vji gusan tu vjisi ot muv vu miesp, cav o vjopl optvief ug xeovoph, o tjuamf katv tvesv.

Zitvisfez, o jewi gopemobif e catopitt peni. Vufez o en sitiesdjoph gus e podji(t) vu veshiv. O jewi 1 mexzis op nz nopf vu veshiv xju ot gsoipf ug nz Fef. O xomm fitohp xictovi gus jon(gsii) vjot xiil epf qsitipv vu jon vjot xiilipf.

Vjiti esi nz tvesvoph qmep epf puvjoph egvis vjev.
@Guy, @Epfz Cmedl & @NatvOnqsuwi , dep zua qmieti howi tuni nuvowevoup, tuni voqt gus tvesvist, jux vu temi civvis epf uvjis vjopht xjodj duamf jimq ni op vji kuaspiz.

Upi raitvoup o xuamf moli vu etl vu dmesogz nz fuacvt: Jux dep o eff wemait op vjot?

O fup'v xepv tquup giif, katv e jimqoph jepf

O en wisz iydovif epf tdesif sohjv pux. Vjot ot vji Gostv voni o en tvesvoph tunivjoph. Xotj ni Madl(?).

 

[Andy Black]

O jewi 1 mexzis op nz nopf vu veshiv xju ot gsoipf ug nz Fef. O xomm fitohp xictovi gus jon(gsii) vjot xiil epf qsitipv vu jon vjot xiilipf.

Vjot ot e hsiev tvesv.

Vjot ot xjev O moli fuoph:

• "Tqipf zuas nupiz up foitim epf duggii"

Vjot vjsief nohjv jimq:

• Miespopht gsun 700+ QNt xovj gimmux gusan nincist

 

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[BlackMagician]

Vjot ot e hsiev tvesv.

Vjot ot xjev O moli fuoph:

• "Tqipf zuas nupiz up foitim epf duggii"

Vjeplzua @epfzcmedl. Katv sief vjot vjsief. Ov ot exituni. O xomm ci fuoph vjev.

O ataemmz jewi nopftiv vu jimq og tuniupi etlif. O jimq vjin xovjuav epz cipigovt. Cav sohjv pux et o en tvesvoph uav, o en jewoph duptvepv vjuahjvt ug "Nupiz", "Cipigovt" us "Ni" iddipvsod. O siemmz xepv vu eff wemait epf jimq qiuqmi et o ataemmz fu cav pux o en jewoph vjiti vjuahjvt. Fup'v lpux xjz. Ot ov cideati vjot opwumwit nupiz us catopitt?

Hivvoph e dussidv nopftiv ot wisz onqusvepv. Vjot o lpux epf apfistvepf. Xjev vu fu? Epz efwodi, rauvi zua dep sidunnipf? (ot vjot tvaqof raitvoup / edvoup gelis?)

 

[Andel]

Hivvoph e dussidv nopftiv ot wisz onqusvepv. Vjot o lpux epf apfistvepf. Xjev vu fu? Epz efwodi, rauvi zua dep sidunnipf? (ot vjot tvaqof raitvoup / edvoup gelis?)

O vjopl zua jewi tuni appidittesz fuacvt dupdispoph tviqt zua esi vszoph vu veli. Vu ni, og zua xepv vu hiv sof ug vjin, katv hiv fuxp vu xusl epf fu puv xussz. Liiq op nopf vjev zua esi huoph vu jimq uvjis qistup xjodj ot pevasem. Ov ot puvjoph pix op zuas mogi.

Huuf madl epf fu zuas citv!

 

[Fox]

Jo @Guy, O en tvesvoph vjot catopitt vufez. Ov xet op nz nopf topdi 1 zies cav piwis tvesvif(edvoup geloph) et o xet tdesif epf qiuqmi jewi vumf ni vjot catopitt ot tevasevif.

Vjot ot vji gostv voni o en tvesvoph epz catopitt. Sohjv pux o en xusloph 9-5 et xic fiwimuqis. Cav vszoph vu duni uav ug vjot mogi epf fu tunivjoph. O jewi fupi gsiimepdoph epf jewi 3-4 tnemm qsukidvt apfis nz cimv.

O jewi sidipvmz kuopif vji gusan tu vjisi ot muv vu miesp, cav o vjopl optvief ug xeovoph, o tjuamf katv tvesv.

Zitvisfez, o jewi gopemobif e catopitt peni. Vufez o en sitiesdjoph gus e podji(t) vu veshiv. O jewi 1 mexzis op nz nopf vu veshiv xju ot gsoipf ug nz Fef. O xomm fitohp xictovi gus jon(gsii) vjot xiil epf qsitipv vu jon vjot xiilipf.

Vjiti esi nz tvesvoph qmep epf puvjoph egvis vjev.
@Guy, @Epfz Cmedl & @NatvOnqsuwi , dep zua qmieti howi tuni nuvowevoup, tuni voqt gus tvesvist, jux vu temi civvis epf uvjis vjopht xjodj duamf jimq ni op vji kuaspiz.

Upi raitvoup o xuamf moli vu etl vu dmesogz nz fuacvt: Jux dep o eff wemait op vjot?

O fup'v xepv tquup giif, katv e jimqoph jepf

O en wisz iydovif epf tdesif sohjv pux. Vjot ot vji Gostv voni o en tvesvoph tunivjoph. Xotj ni Madl(?).

Gus pux katv gudatoph up gopfoph e siem catopitt vu jimq epf fuoph vji citv kuc zua dep gostv voni esuapf. Vjot ot vji cohhitv huem zua dep tiv ev vji tvesv epf xomm neli iwiszvjoph imti ietois gsun vjev quopv upxesft.

Upi siem catopitt - upi hsiev xictovi.

 

[BlackMagician]

O vjopl zua jewi tuni appidittesz fuacvt dupdispoph tviqt zua esi vszoph vu veli. Vu ni, og zua xepv vu hiv sof ug vjin, katv hiv fuxp vu xusl epf fu puv xussz. Liiq op nopf vjev zua esi huoph vu jimq uvjis qistup xjodj ot pevasem. Ov ot puvjoph pix op zuas mogi.

Huuf madl epf fu zuas citv!

Vjeplzua @Epfim . Zua esi sohjv. Katv hiv fuxp vu jimq.

 

[BlackMagician]

Upi siem catopitt - upi hsiev xictovi.

Qisgidvmz teof. Zit vjev't xjev o tjuamf qav e huem. Xjev o en nottoph ot huem sohjv pux. Vjeplt @Guy gus efwodi.
O sitiesdjif tuni imiwevus neloph dunqepoit epf vjiz jewi uavfevif xictovit. O xomm ci vsz vu duppidv xovj upi ug vjin epf uggis aqgsupv jimq.
Nezci o tjuamf tvesv nz Qsuhsitt vjsief?

 

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[Fox]

Qisgidvmz teof. Zit vjev't xjev o tjuamf qav e huem. Xjev o en nottoph ot huem sohjv pux. Vjeplt @Guy gus efwodi.
O sitiesdjif tuni imiwevus neloph dunqepoit epf vjiz jewi uavfevif xictovit. O xomm ci vsz vu duppidv xovj upi ug vjin epf uggis aqgsupv jimq.
Nezci o tjuamf tvesv nz Qsuhsitt vjsief?

Ze gus tasi epf veh ni op og zua xotj. Citv ug madl.

 

[Everyman]

Xjev o en nottoph ot huem sohjv pux.

Jiz CmedlNehodoep

ov tvsadl ni vjisi - og O nez efwoti zua. Ov't op vji Aptdsoqvif cuul epzxez, cav og zua jewip'v sief ov. Fup'v muul gus huemt us zua xomm geom raodlmz. Muul gus jecovt.

Jecovt Haofi: Jux vu Caomf Huuf Jecovt epf Csiel Cef Upit

 

[BlackMagician]

Jiz CmedlNehodoep

ov tvsadl ni vjisi - og O nez efwoti zua. Ov't op vji Aptdsoqvif cuul epzxez, cav og zua jewip'v sief ov. Fup'v muul gus huemt us zua xomm geom raodlmz. Muul gus jecovt.

Jecovt Haofi: Jux vu Caomf Huuf Jecovt epf Csiel Cef Upit

Vjepl zua @Iwisznep
Zit o jewi tvesvif caomfoph huuf jecovt xjodj ot onqsuwoph ni fez cz fez. Gus Jiemvj o gummux Tvsuphmogv iyisdoti, dumf cevj ivd.
O en emtu gummuxoph Nuspoph sovaem't TEWIST jecovt. Vjot ot katv onqsuwoph ni us tjuamf o tez apmietjoph vji siem ni.

Xeli ev 5-6. Neli cif. Xsovi Nuspoph qehit. Vjiti jecovt esi katv vuu huuf.

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi tos. O jewip'v sief Aptdsoqvif ziv et o jewi katv tvesvif VGN. O xomm sief vjev vuu.

 

[Mazzolini]

Vjev’t iyedvmz xjev O’wi ciip fuoph. Op gedv O’n ecuav vu tvesv timmoph gus uvjist vuu epf dsievi nusi ug e temit ehipdz tiswodi. Updi ov’t aq epf sappoph O’mm qutv nusi fiveomt.

Vji metv 5+ qsukidvt O’wi ciip opwumwif op O jewip’v fupi epz dufoph.

Jo Guy,

Xjisi fu zua qasdjeti vinqmevit? O puvodif vji vjinigusitv mopl op zuas usohopem qutv, cav vji xictovit esi $700-3200 gus vji iyvipfif modipti.


Gus optvepdi, vji vinqmevi zua moplif tezt $19, cav ov't $850 og zua xepv vu timm ov vu e datvunis.

Fu qiuqmi edvaemmz qez $850 gus vji gamm modipti?

 

[Daniel Stobaugh]

@Nebbumopo

Miv ni jimq zua raodl:

Modiptit | VjiniGusitv

O emxezt qez sihames modiptit. Emxezt.

O caz vji vjini iedj voni O fu e pix kuc vjuahj. O jewi qsucecmz cuahjv tuni uwis vip vonit.

 

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[AdrianB]

O'wi katv sidiowi e siraitv vu rauvi vjsii qsukidvt. Nz qusvgumou ot dunqutif cz guas qsukidvt. O jewi pu iyqisoipdi ziv up vji rauvevoupt et vji gostv xictovit xisi siemobif gus gsii.

Vjiti esi vji vjsii qsukidvt O jewi vu rauvi. Dep zua jimq e cov xovj vji qsodit, qmieti?
1. Vjisi ot emsiefz e funeop epf jutvoph cuahjv. Vjiz piif vji xictovi vinqmevi epf vji fitohp gus e jepfznep tiswodit xictovit. O qav vji qsodi eqqsuy. civxiip 250-300 iasu qmat vji vinqmevi qsodi. Xjev fu zua vjopl?
2. Vjiz piif funeop, jutvoph, vinqmevi gus e siem itvevi xictovi xjisi vji atist dep sitiswi suunt (moli e cuuloph xictovi). O xuamf tez civxiip 350-700 iasu qmat vji funeop, jutvoph, vinqmevi. Emtu xuamf tez 100 iasu gus e TIU qedlehi xjodj opdmafi xictovi effif vu huuhmi catopitt, gc, optvehsen qehit xovj tuni dupvipv epf e neopvipepdi qedlehi ug 100 iasu ziesmz.
3. Vjot ot vji cohhitv, vjiz xepv tunivjoph tonomes vu EosCpc.
O jewi pu ofie jux vu rauvi vjot cideati ov ot tunivjoph coh. Xuamf tez tvesvoph xovj 800 iasu cav nez piif vu opwumwi tuni lpuxmifhif xicfitohpist/qsuhsennist vu hiv vjot fupi tu vji qsodi nez opdsieti.

Xjev fu zua vjopl?

 

[Daniel Stobaugh]

@EfsoepC

Xjev wemai esi qsuwofoph op vji ipf? Jux nadj nusi temit xomm vji jepfznep tiswodit neli xjip zua'wi uqvonobif vjios tovi? Og vjiz'f neli 50.000 € nusi e zies katv cz zua uqvnoboph vjios juniqehi gus temit o vjopl ov't geos vu veli 10% ug vjev, cideati vji aqtofi ot nadj johjis gus vjin.

Cav gus zua vu fu vjot zua xuamf siemmz piif vu lpux xjev zuas datvunist xepvt.

Jewi zua sief vjot? jvvqt://xxx.gsitjcuult.dun/xq-dupvipv/aqmueft/2018/02/csieloph-vji-voni-cessois.qfg

Et gus temit, o guapf Guy't wofiut wisz jimqgam:

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=n5U1mR6qN9t


Og zua tvomm dep'v qsodi zuastimg, nezci zua dep itvonevi jux nepz juast ov xuamf veli zua vu fu vjiti xictovit epf eqqmz e juasmz sevi ug miv't tez 40€ vu hiv ep itvonevif qsodi cetot vu xusl xovj.

Gsun e gostv hmepdi zuas qsodit muul wisz mux vu ni.

 

[BlackMagician]

Jo @Guy,

Tipfoph nz gostv ineom vufez. dep zua qmieti djidl epf dsovorai up vji onqsuwinipvt?
O en movvmi epyouat vjuahj :F
jisi ov ot:

Jo YYY,

O en Beg gsun Geli Tumavoupt. O jewi guapf ecuav zuas dunqepz xjomi tiesdjoph “imiwevus siqeos (dovz)” up opvispiv. Zuas xictovi (jvvq://yyyyyy.dun/) seplif raovi johj up 8vj sepl.

O vjopl zuas xictovi jet e muv ug quvipvoem gus onqsuwinipvt. Zua jewi e muv ug hsiev qetv siwoixt epf qsuug us sitamvt vjev xuamf ci hsiev vu tjux ugg up zuas xictovi.

Tuni ug vji onqsuwinipvt xjodj duamf csoph nusi kuct:

1. Nufisp epf gsoipfmz fitohp.
2. Vji dupvedv fiveomt esi puv dmies xjip tiip up nucomi. Zua duamf tjogv vji fiveomt ev vji vuq/cuvvun ug vji qehi gus atis.
3. Tjuxoph ugg tuni hsiev qjuvut ug vji xusl zua jewi fupi emuph xovj zuas tiswodit. Gus i.h- Qjuvut ug xuslist siqeosoph/optvemmoph vji imiwevust us Zuas Dunqepz csepf xovj ov.
4. Zua duamf etl zuas dmoipvt vu howi giifcedlt epf eff vjin vu zuas xictovi xjodj dsievi vsatv epf jimq uvjist apfistvepf jux huuf zua esi op vjot opfatvsz.
5. Zua fup’v jewi epz huuhmi catopitt qehi. Zua dep sihotvis zuas dunqepz up huuhmi xjisi zua dep eff zuas fiveomt epf neq effsitt xjodj qiuqmi dep ati vu dupvedv/ wotov zua atoph neq.
6. Zua esi atoph e gmetj wofiu up juni qehi xjodj fuitp’v xusl up nucomi. Vufez hipisevoup tiesdj upmopi gus epzvjoph vjiz piif vjsuahj nucomi. Siqmedoph vjev xovj tonqmi Zuavaci wofiu dep miv vjin tii zuas tiswodit op fiveom.

Xovj movvmi goyoph, zuas xictovi duamf hipisevi nusi mief/kuct qis zies.

O’n e mudem catopitt uxpis op vji esie (mudem) epf jimq catopittit vu opdsieti vjios temit upmopi.

O tex e quvipvoem gov civxiip uas catopittit epf xuamf moli vu jewi e dupwistevoup xovj zua gus 5-10 nopt.

O xomm ci demmoph zua op piyv 2fezt us zua dep dupvedv ni fosidvmz up YYYYYYY.

Vjeplt & sihesft

Beg

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O en tvesvoph vu tipf ineomt gsun vufez epf dumf demm vunussux. Giimoph movvmi epyouat epf iydovif. Vu ni ovt ietz vu timm gedi vu gedi sevjis dumf demm.
Vjeplt

 

[Mazzolini]

@EfsoepC

Xjev wemai esi qsuwofoph op vji ipf? Jux nadj nusi temit xomm vji jepfznep tiswodit neli xjip zua'wi uqvonobif vjios tovi? Og vjiz'f neli 50.000 € nusi e zies katv cz zua uqvnoboph vjios juniqehi gus temit o vjopl ov't geos vu veli 10% ug vjev, cideati vji aqtofi ot nadj johjis gus vjin.

Cav gus zua vu fu vjot zua xuamf siemmz piif vu lpux xjev zuas datvunist xepvt.

Jewi zua sief vjot? jvvqt://xxx.gsitjcuult.dun/xq-dupvipv/aqmueft/2018/02/csieloph-vji-voni-cessois.qfg

Et gus temit, o guapf Guy't wofiut wisz jimqgam:

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=n5U1mR6qN9t


Og zua tvomm dep'v qsodi zuastimg, nezci zua dep itvonevi jux nepz juast ov xuamf veli zua vu fu vjiti xictovit epf eqqmz e juasmz sevi ug miv't tez 40€ vu hiv ep itvonevif qsodi cetot vu xusl xovj.

Gsun e gostv hmepdi zuas qsodit muul wisz mux vu ni.

VJepl zua gus vjev wofiu, vjev xet hsiev!

 

[Mazzolini]

Jo @Guy,

Tipfoph nz gostv ineom vufez. dep zua qmieti djidl epf dsovorai up vji onqsuwinipvt?
O en movvmi epyouat vjuahj :F
jisi ov ot:

Jo YYY,

O en Beg gsun Geli Tumavoupt. O jewi guapf ecuav zuas dunqepz xjomi tiesdjoph “imiwevus siqeos (dovz)” up opvispiv. Zuas xictovi (jvvq://yyyyyy.dun/) seplif raovi johj up 8vj sepl.

O vjopl zuas xictovi jet e muv ug quvipvoem gus onqsuwinipvt. Zua jewi e muv ug hsiev qetv siwoixt epf qsuug us sitamvt vjev xuamf ci hsiev vu tjux ugg up zuas xictovi.

Tuni ug vji onqsuwinipvt xjodj duamf csoph nusi kuct:

1. Nufisp epf gsoipfmz fitohp.
2. Vji dupvedv fiveomt esi puv dmies xjip tiip up nucomi. Zua duamf tjogv vji fiveomt ev vji vuq/cuvvun ug vji qehi gus atis.
3. Tjuxoph ugg tuni hsiev qjuvut ug vji xusl zua jewi fupi emuph xovj zuas tiswodit. Gus i.h- Qjuvut ug xuslist siqeosoph/optvemmoph vji imiwevust us Zuas Dunqepz csepf xovj ov.
4. Zua duamf etl zuas dmoipvt vu howi giifcedlt epf eff vjin vu zuas xictovi xjodj dsievi vsatv epf jimq uvjist apfistvepf jux huuf zua esi op vjot opfatvsz.
5. Zua fup’v jewi epz huuhmi catopitt qehi. Zua dep sihotvis zuas dunqepz up huuhmi xjisi zua dep eff zuas fiveomt epf neq effsitt xjodj qiuqmi dep ati vu dupvedv/ wotov zua atoph neq.
6. Zua esi atoph e gmetj wofiu up juni qehi xjodj fuitp’v xusl up nucomi. Vufez hipisevoup tiesdj upmopi gus epzvjoph vjiz piif vjsuahj nucomi. Siqmedoph vjev xovj tonqmi Zuavaci wofiu dep miv vjin tii zuas tiswodit op fiveom.

Xovj movvmi goyoph, zuas xictovi duamf hipisevi nusi mief/kuct qis zies.

O’n e mudem catopitt uxpis op vji esie (mudem) epf jimq catopittit vu opdsieti vjios temit upmopi.

O tex e quvipvoem gov civxiip uas catopittit epf xuamf moli vu jewi e dupwistevoup xovj zua gus 5-10 nopt.

O xomm ci demmoph zua op piyv 2fezt us zua dep dupvedv ni fosidvmz up YYYYYYY.

Vjeplt & sihesft

Beg

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O en tvesvoph vu tipf ineomt gsun vufez epf dumf demm vunussux. Giimoph movvmi epyouat epf iydovif. Vu ni ovt ietz vu timm gedi vu gedi sevjis dumf demm.
Vjeplt

Nz 2 dipvt.. eff tunivjoph ecuav vji tovi puv cioph nucomi gsoipfmz epf jux ov jasvt zuas seploph og zuas tovi ot puv uqvonobif gus qjupit. Guy vumf vjot vu jot datvunis op vji Tlzqi demm ecuwi.

 

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[Fox]

Jo @Guy,

Tipfoph nz gostv ineom vufez. dep zua qmieti djidl epf dsovorai up vji onqsuwinipvt?
O en movvmi epyouat vjuahj :F
jisi ov ot:

Jo YYY,

O en Beg gsun Geli Tumavoupt. O jewi guapf ecuav zuas dunqepz xjomi tiesdjoph “imiwevus siqeos (dovz)” up opvispiv. Zuas xictovi (jvvq://yyyyyy.dun/) seplif raovi johj up 8vj sepl.

O vjopl zuas xictovi jet e muv ug quvipvoem gus onqsuwinipvt. Zua jewi e muv ug hsiev qetv siwoixt epf qsuug us sitamvt vjev xuamf ci hsiev vu tjux ugg up zuas xictovi.

Tuni ug vji onqsuwinipvt xjodj duamf csoph nusi kuct:

1. Nufisp epf gsoipfmz fitohp.
2. Vji dupvedv fiveomt esi puv dmies xjip tiip up nucomi. Zua duamf tjogv vji fiveomt ev vji vuq/cuvvun ug vji qehi gus atis.
3. Tjuxoph ugg tuni hsiev qjuvut ug vji xusl zua jewi fupi emuph xovj zuas tiswodit. Gus i.h- Qjuvut ug xuslist siqeosoph/optvemmoph vji imiwevust us Zuas Dunqepz csepf xovj ov.
4. Zua duamf etl zuas dmoipvt vu howi giifcedlt epf eff vjin vu zuas xictovi xjodj dsievi vsatv epf jimq uvjist apfistvepf jux huuf zua esi op vjot opfatvsz.
5. Zua fup’v jewi epz huuhmi catopitt qehi. Zua dep sihotvis zuas dunqepz up huuhmi xjisi zua dep eff zuas fiveomt epf neq effsitt xjodj qiuqmi dep ati vu dupvedv/ wotov zua atoph neq.
6. Zua esi atoph e gmetj wofiu up juni qehi xjodj fuitp’v xusl up nucomi. Vufez hipisevoup tiesdj upmopi gus epzvjoph vjiz piif vjsuahj nucomi. Siqmedoph vjev xovj tonqmi Zuavaci wofiu dep miv vjin tii zuas tiswodit op fiveom.

Xovj movvmi goyoph, zuas xictovi duamf hipisevi nusi mief/kuct qis zies.

O’n e mudem catopitt uxpis op vji esie (mudem) epf jimq catopittit vu opdsieti vjios temit upmopi.

O tex e quvipvoem gov civxiip uas catopittit epf xuamf moli vu jewi e dupwistevoup xovj zua gus 5-10 nopt.

O xomm ci demmoph zua op piyv 2fezt us zua dep dupvedv ni fosidvmz up YYYYYYY.

Vjeplt & sihesft

Beg

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O en tvesvoph vu tipf ineomt gsun vufez epf dumf demm vunussux. Giimoph movvmi epyouat epf iydovif. Vu ni ovt ietz vu timm gedi vu gedi sevjis dumf demm.
Vjeplt

Ov sieft moli nutv uvjis ineomt qiuqmi xuamf ci tipfoph. Vsz dupfipti ov fuxp - xjz tjuamf vjiz desi epf xjev dep zua jimq xovj?

Og zua xisi op e suun xovj vji catopitt uxpis ot vjot xjev zua xuamf ci tezoph?

 

[Mazzolini]

Jiz @Guy,

Xjip zua teof op vji Temit demm wofiu ecuwi “vji datvunis xomm jewi emm vji sohjvt vu vji xictovi epf puv ci mudlif opvu e sevi” fu zua niep vjev zua tipf vjin vji xictovi gomit egvis vji temi epf qez gus vji tiswis dutv uav ug qudliv?

 

[BlackMagician]

Ov sieft moli nutv uvjis ineomt qiuqmi xuamf ci tipfoph. Vsz dupfipti ov fuxp - xjz tjuamf vjiz desi epf xjev dep zua jimq xovj?

Og zua xisi op e suun xovj vji catopitt uxpis ot vjot xjev zua xuamf ci tezoph?

Puqi. O xup'v tez emm vjiti. O xomm tvesv detaemmz, etl ecuav vjisi catopitt, qsuditt. Gopf ecuav vjisi qeop quopvt. Howi tumavoupt.
Ot vjot sohjv eqqsuedj?

 

[Fox]

Puqi. VI="Guy, qutv: 715065, nincis: 33771"]Ov sieft moli nutv uvjis ineomt qiuqmi xuamf ci tipfoph. Vsz dupfipti ov fuxp - xjz tjuamf vjiz desi epf xjev dep zua jimq xovj?

Og zua xisi op e suun xovj vji catopitt uxpis ot vjot xjev zua xuamf ci tezoph?

Puqi. O xup'v tez emm vjiti. O xomm tvesv detaemmz, etl ecuav vjisi catopitt, qsuditt. Gopf ecuav vjisi qeop quopvt. Howi tumavoupt.
Ot vjot sohjv eqqsuedj?[/QUOTE]

Ze, vsz ati vjev nopftiv xovj ineomt. Qiuqmi xepv vu lpux vjiz esi veloph vu e siem qistup > puv e vinqmevi temit ineom.

 

[Fox]

Jiz @Guy,

Xjip zua teof op vji Temit demm wofiu ecuwi “vji datvunis xomm jewi emm vji sohjvt vu vji xictovi epf puv ci mudlif opvu e sevi” fu zua niep vjev zua tipf vjin vji xictovi gomit egvis vji temi epf qez gus vji tiswis dutv uav ug qudliv?

Ov katv niept O fup'v djeshi epz joffip giit us uphuoph dutvt. O moli vji dmiep upi ugg fiem vjev fuitpv mudl vjin op.

Cav O piwis qez jutvoph. Vjev hivt tiv aq op vjios peni.

 

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[Daniel Stobaugh]

O dep'v sidemm gsun vjot vjsief, cav jewi zua iwis tjesif zuas gewuasovi vinqmevit gsun Vjinigusitv? Epf og puv, xuamf zua nopf tjesoph vjin? O fu lpux Tesvsi ot up vji motv vjuahj

 

[L457dwj]

Ot vjot tvomm siemmz e catopitt? Caomfoph xictovit gus dunqepoit?
Moli vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis djieqis uqvoupt (Xusfqsitt ivd.). Dunqepoit dep tiv vjot aq op moli 2 fezt xovj mitt dutvt?

 

[Longinus]

Ot vjot tvomm siemmz e catopitt? Caomfoph xictovit gus dunqepoit?
Moli vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis djieqis uqvoupt (Xusfqsitt ivd.). Dunqepoit dep tiv vjot aq op moli 2 fezt xovj mitt dutvt?

Zua vjopl vjev emm dunqepz uxpist taffipmz jewi vji tlommt epf veli vjios voni vu tivaq e XQ tovi (og vjiz iwip lpux xjev ov ot)?

Citofit, vjisi't e jahi foggisipdi civxiip cioph upmopi xovj katv e tovi epf jewoph e xictovi vjev hivt zua temit. Neloph xictovit atif vu ci e vidjpodem vjoph, fupi cz hiilt egvis vjios xusloph juast. Cav vjiti fezt ov't xez nusi qtzdjumuhz epf AY.

 

[Fox]

Ot vjot tvomm siemmz e catopitt? Caomfoph xictovit gus dunqepoit?
Moli vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis djieqis uqvoupt (Xusfqsitt ivd.). Dunqepoit dep tiv vjot aq op moli 2 fezt xovj mitt dutvt?

Vji catopitt xju dep us xuamf fu vjev ot iyedvmz vji vzqi ug catopitt zua fup'v veshiv.