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Pretty much what CareCPA said.

I would have ordered the top rated ones on Amazon. At least the top 10. Maybe 15.
Then I would have gone through all 10-15 and read the 1-3 star reviews to see what people said.
Then I would have gotten a dog and tested all the gloves.
Then I would have looked through alibaba for manufacturers of the top 3 and ordered samples from 3-5 factories.
Then I would have ask manufacturers to make any changes based on the customer complaints.

Looking at his product I can easily see that he probably ordered from the cheapest factory. The nubs are too short and not dense. The glove stitching on the back is off centered and the fingers look just weird. The fabric.. ugh and yuck. No wonder it was $2. I wouldn't have picked that model either, there are other better ones selling on Amazon.

I would also not have picked a blue hand. Why did he do blue? Everyone else has blue. I would have made mine orange I think.

In summary, I would have made a better product or at least at the same level of quality as the others.
Oddly enough, I've considered sourcing one of these in recent months with the exact changes you've mentioned (have them all written down), including the color orange (my brand's main color), as kind of a quality "me too" product to supplement my brand's more unique, core products. For now, I wanted to keep the focus on the development of my core products though.

Haven't read the thread, but I'm also confident that someone can make this product work. To what degree is up for debate...

The process biophase described applies to every idea or product you go after, not just this one. It took me over a year and 3-4 iterations of my first product before I had a product I was proud off and that got great reviews. Coincidentally, that's exactly when my sales started to take off.

And I've spent even more time and money developing the rest of my products. I'm just now starting to get the results I wanted - after dealing with dozens of manufacturers, thousands of lost dollars in test orders, and over a year of constant failing.
 

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Oddly enough, I've considered sourcing one of these in recent months with the exact changes you've mentioned (have them all written down), including the color orange (my brand's main color), as kind of a quality "me too" product to supplement my brand's more unique, core products. For now, I wanted to keep the focus on the development of my core products though.

Haven't read the thread, but I'm also confident that someone can make this product work. To what degree is up for debate...

The process biophase described applies to every idea or product you go after, not just this one. It took me over a year and 3-4 iterations of my first product before I had a product I was proud off and that got great reviews. Coincidentally, that's exactly when my sales started to take off.

And I've spent even more time and money developing the rest of my products. I'm just now starting to get the results I wanted - after dealing with dozens of manufacturers, thousands of lost dollars in test orders, and over a year of constant failing.
if it’s any help I bought these @ $1.15
 
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So I wanted to dive into this with retrospect a bit, since this is a former competitor of mine. If people find this helpful awesome.

Here's the #1 seller on AMZ doing ?? $40k sales +?? with the exact same product with an improved product of my own.



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Please note I don't sell on AMZ, I just use it as a reference point.

Delomous << The website

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One thing on my website that I don't have customer reviews (oops) although I only had a couple of customers reply back with one of them stating my toys got ripped apart by they're dogs within the first day.. Yeh, made in China quality. Another big problem

Another is actually I'm not on Amazon, while this is likely in the future I've opted to stay away from buy box politics and whatnot & cant really engage in price wars as my budget is much tighter.

Still have struggled with my advertising, looking into the Delomo glove I actually have a higher skew value than the product since my bundle includes toys with the glove at a cheaper price, no one will buy it if they don't know about it right?

I haven't offered a money back guarantee as Delomo offers.

The main reasons Delomo kicked my a$$ would actually be they did a more efficient job at marketing the product. My strategy has been IG/FB linked to my website, that's all. Oddly enough this ?company? doesn't even exist on facebook? Or at least I cant find them

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYUr4BQjWIo


I was never on youtube showcasing the product as when I tried it out the product sucked as mentioned before. As bio stated they do have a better product

https://newswatchtv.com/2018/10/03/delomo-newswatch-review/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ3F6nLNg54


Also they have affiliate marketing plugs on youtube/websites with direct link buy box to AMZ (I haven't done any affiliate marketing)

5 Best Cat Grooming Gloves For Deshedding 2018 [Reviews & Guide]

As well as other links, they-re name will popup on a few random sites if you google them.

They're copy write is a bit better than mine.

I feel optimistic though looking into this. If a basic product with amateur level marketing can do 5 figures, what happens when you have an awesome product, with awesome marketing?

I'm happy to have taken these lessons in. And hope you lurkers learned something as well.
 
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The bit about customers being paranoid putting in CC details still irks me. Need to really work on that.
 

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So I wanted to dive into this with retrospect a bit, since this is a former competitor of mine. If people find this helpful awesome.

Here's the #1 seller on AMZ doing ?? $40k sales +?? with the exact same product with an improved product of my own.
  1. One thing on my website that I don't have customer reviews (oops) although I only had a couple of customers reply back with one of them stating my toys got ripped apart by they're dogs within the first day.. Yeh, made in China quality.
  2. Still have struggled with my advertising, looking into the Delomo glove I actually have a higher skew value than the product since my bundle includes toys with the glove at a cheaper price, no one will buy it if they don't know about it right?
  3. I haven't offered a money back guarantee as Delomo offers.
  4. The main reasons Delomo kicked my a$$ would actually be they did a more efficient job at marketing the product. My strategy has been IG/FB linked to my website, that's all. Oddly enough this ?company? doesn't even exist on facebook? Or at least I cant find them
  5. I was never on youtube showcasing the product as when I tried it out the product sucked as mentioned before. As bio stated they do have a better product
  6. Also they have affiliate marketing plugs on youtube/websites with direct link buy box to AMZ (I haven't done any affiliate marketing)
  7. They're copy write is a bit better than mine.
I feel optimistic though looking into this. If a basic product with amateur level marketing can do 5 figures, what happens when you have an awesome product, with awesome marketing?

I'm happy to have taken these lessons in. And hope you lurkers learned something as well.
I'm sorry but you are delusional here. I think that you are still making excuses. The main reason that yours did not sell is because you didn't put any effort into it at all.

Let's look at your reasons (and I'm really doing this to help others who cannot figure out why their "same" product is not selling $40k a month like the #1 listing).

1) One thing on my website that I don't have customer reviews (oops) although I only had a couple of customers reply back with one of them stating my toys got ripped apart by they're dogs within the first day.. Yeh, made in China quality.

You could have easily "made up" some reviews. Come on, it's your own website, you control the content.

You got one reply and blame it on made in China quality. Well your competitors are made in China aren't they? Guess why your quality was bad? It's not because of China, it's because of you

2) Still have struggled with my advertising, looking into the Delomo glove I actually have a higher skew value than the product since my bundle includes toys with the glove at a cheaper price, no one will buy it if they don't know about it right?

So your crappier glove was cheaper and you included a toy? You really think that that is a value skew? If I'm trying to buy a dog comb, I want a dog comb. Not a crappier dog comb and a toy. I don't need a toy.

3) I haven't offered a money back guarantee as Delomo offers.

I don't know how much more this converts, but why didn't you? It's not like this is a hard thing to do. You could have typed up a single sentence on your website.

4) The main reasons Delomo kicked my a$$ would actually be they did a more efficient job at marketing the product. My strategy has been IG/FB linked to my website, that's all. Oddly enough this company doesn't even exist on facebook? Or at least I cant find them.

Are you comparing your website to your website or to their Amazon listing? How do you even know how much they sell on their website? I bet that they sell 99% on Amazon.

The reason they kicked your butt is because they rank very high on Amazon and have good reviews. It's not because of their social media strategy.

5) I was never on youtube showcasing the product as when I tried it out the product sucked as mentioned before. As bio stated they do have a better product.

Finally you get to the real reason. Your product sucked. It has zero to do with youtube. They have 2 videos, 11 subscribers and 26k total views on Youtube.

6) Also they have affiliate marketing plugs on youtube/websites with direct link buy box to AMZ (I haven't done any affiliate marketing)

This is irrelevant.

7) They're copy write is a bit better than mine.

Again, pretty irrelevant

Here's what you should have done:
1) Order the top 10 gloves from Amazon
2) Test out the top 10 gloves from Amazon
3) Choose the best glove out of the 10
4) Find the best features out of the 10
5) Try to incorporate some of these features into the best glove
6) Find 5 manufacturers that make that glove and add your features
5) Find a way to differentiate your glove (I would have done it by color)
6) Take great photos of your glove. Make a good video
7) Make a good Amazon listing
8) Launch at a lower price, breakeven
9) Get reviews
10) Run PPC
11) Breakeven on your first 500 units
12) Raise price
13) Profit

This is what you did
1) Contact one manufacturer in China
2) Order gloves
3) List on Amazon
4) Make a website
5) Twiddle thumbs

I'm sorry to be so hard on you, but it's clear that you aren't learning your lesson. The fact that you listed "I had a shitty product" as your #5 reason tells it all. You don't give a sh*t about the people purchasing your product. You don't care if it works or not. You just want money.

All your reasons put the blame on your marketing, website or social media. The truth is that if you actually sold 10 a day on Amazon, it would have lasted one month because you would have 50 1-3 star reviews and get shut down by Amazon.
 

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I'm sorry but you are delusional here. I think that you are still making excuses. The main reason that yours did not sell is because you didn't put any effort into it at all.

Let's look at your reasons (and I'm really doing this to help others who cannot figure out why their "same" product is not selling $40k a month like the #1 listing).

1) One thing on my website that I don't have customer reviews (oops) although I only had a couple of customers reply back with one of them stating my toys got ripped apart by they're dogs within the first day.. Yeh, made in China quality.

You could have easily "made up" some reviews. Come on, it's your own website, you control the content.

You got one reply and blame it on made in China quality. Well your competitors are made in China aren't they? Guess why your quality was bad? It's not because of China, it's because of you

2) Still have struggled with my advertising, looking into the Delomo glove I actually have a higher skew value than the product since my bundle includes toys with the glove at a cheaper price, no one will buy it if they don't know about it right?

So your crappier glove was cheaper and you included a toy? You really think that that is a value skew? If I'm trying to buy a dog comb, I want a dog comb. Not a crappier dog comb and a toy. I don't need a toy.

3) I haven't offered a money back guarantee as Delomo offers.

I don't know how much more this converts, but why didn't you? It's not like this is a hard thing to do. You could have typed up a single sentence on your website.

4) The main reasons Delomo kicked my a$$ would actually be they did a more efficient job at marketing the product. My strategy has been IG/FB linked to my website, that's all. Oddly enough this company doesn't even exist on facebook? Or at least I cant find them.

Are you comparing your website to your website or to their Amazon listing? How do you even know how much they sell on their website? I bet that they sell 99% on Amazon.

The reason they kicked your butt is because they rank very high on Amazon and have good reviews. It's not because of their social media strategy.

5) I was never on youtube showcasing the product as when I tried it out the product sucked as mentioned before. As bio stated they do have a better product.

Finally you get to the real reason. Your product sucked. It has zero to do with youtube. They have 2 videos, 11 subscribers and 26k total views on Youtube.

6) Also they have affiliate marketing plugs on youtube/websites with direct link buy box to AMZ (I haven't done any affiliate marketing)

This is irrelevant.

7) They're copy write is a bit better than mine.

Again, pretty irrelevant

Here's what you should have done:
1) Order the top 10 gloves from Amazon
2) Test out the top 10 gloves from Amazon
3) Choose the best glove out of the 10
4) Find the best features out of the 10
5) Try to incorporate some of these features into the best glove
6) Find 5 manufacturers that make that glove and add your features
5) Find a way to differentiate your glove (I would have done it by color)
6) Take great photos of your glove. Make a good video
7) Make a good Amazon listing
8) Launch at a lower price, breakeven
9) Get reviews
10) Run PPC
11) Breakeven on your first 500 units
12) Raise price
13) Profit

This is what you did
1) Contact one manufacturer in China
2) Order gloves
3) List on Amazon
4) Make a website
5) Twiddle thumbs

I'm sorry to be so hard on you, but it's clear that you aren't learning your lesson. The fact that you listed "I had a sh*tty product" as your #5 reason tells it all. You don't give a sh*t about the people purchasing your product. You don't care if it works or not. You just want money.

All your reasons put the blame on your marketing, website or social media. The truth is that if you actually sold 10 a day on Amazon, it would have lasted one month because you would have 50 1-3 star reviews and get shut down by Amazon.
@sparechange I hope you're taking notes. This is literally... STEP BY STEP... how to sell on Amazon and win.
 

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I'm sorry but you are delusional here. I think that you are still making excuses. The main reason that yours did not sell is because you didn't put any effort into it at all.

Let's look at your reasons (and I'm really doing this to help others who cannot figure out why their "same" product is not selling $40k a month like the #1 listing).

1) One thing on my website that I don't have customer reviews (oops) although I only had a couple of customers reply back with one of them stating my toys got ripped apart by they're dogs within the first day.. Yeh, made in China quality.

You could have easily "made up" some reviews. Come on, it's your own website, you control the content.

You got one reply and blame it on made in China quality. Well your competitors are made in China aren't they? Guess why your quality was bad? It's not because of China, it's because of you

2) Still have struggled with my advertising, looking into the Delomo glove I actually have a higher skew value than the product since my bundle includes toys with the glove at a cheaper price, no one will buy it if they don't know about it right?

So your crappier glove was cheaper and you included a toy? You really think that that is a value skew? If I'm trying to buy a dog comb, I want a dog comb. Not a crappier dog comb and a toy. I don't need a toy.

3) I haven't offered a money back guarantee as Delomo offers.

I don't know how much more this converts, but why didn't you? It's not like this is a hard thing to do. You could have typed up a single sentence on your website.

4) The main reasons Delomo kicked my a$$ would actually be they did a more efficient job at marketing the product. My strategy has been IG/FB linked to my website, that's all. Oddly enough this company doesn't even exist on facebook? Or at least I cant find them.

Are you comparing your website to your website or to their Amazon listing? How do you even know how much they sell on their website? I bet that they sell 99% on Amazon.

The reason they kicked your butt is because they rank very high on Amazon and have good reviews. It's not because of their social media strategy.

5) I was never on youtube showcasing the product as when I tried it out the product sucked as mentioned before. As bio stated they do have a better product.

Finally you get to the real reason. Your product sucked. It has zero to do with youtube. They have 2 videos, 11 subscribers and 26k total views on Youtube.

6) Also they have affiliate marketing plugs on youtube/websites with direct link buy box to AMZ (I haven't done any affiliate marketing)

This is irrelevant.

7) They're copy write is a bit better than mine.

Again, pretty irrelevant

Here's what you should have done:
1) Order the top 10 gloves from Amazon
2) Test out the top 10 gloves from Amazon
3) Choose the best glove out of the 10
4) Find the best features out of the 10
5) Try to incorporate some of these features into the best glove
6) Find 5 manufacturers that make that glove and add your features
5) Find a way to differentiate your glove (I would have done it by color)
6) Take great photos of your glove. Make a good video
7) Make a good Amazon listing
8) Launch at a lower price, breakeven
9) Get reviews
10) Run PPC
11) Breakeven on your first 500 units
12) Raise price
13) Profit

This is what you did
1) Contact one manufacturer in China
2) Order gloves
3) List on Amazon
4) Make a website
5) Twiddle thumbs

I'm sorry to be so hard on you, but it's clear that you aren't learning your lesson. The fact that you listed "I had a sh*tty product" as your #5 reason tells it all. You don't give a sh*t about the people purchasing your product. You don't care if it works or not. You just want money.

All your reasons put the blame on your marketing, website or social media. The truth is that if you actually sold 10 a day on Amazon, it would have lasted one month because you would have 50 1-3 star reviews and get shut down by Amazon.
This post alone quadruples the value of this entire thread. OP I hope you learn from this.
 

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I'm sorry but you are delusional here. I think that you are still making excuses. The main reason that yours did not sell is because you didn't put any effort into it at all.

Let's look at your reasons (and I'm really doing this to help others who cannot figure out why their "same" product is not selling $40k a month like the #1 listing).

1) One thing on my website that I don't have customer reviews (oops) although I only had a couple of customers reply back with one of them stating my toys got ripped apart by they're dogs within the first day.. Yeh, made in China quality.

You could have easily "made up" some reviews. Come on, it's your own website, you control the content.

You got one reply and blame it on made in China quality. Well your competitors are made in China aren't they? Guess why your quality was bad? It's not because of China, it's because of you

2) Still have struggled with my advertising, looking into the Delomo glove I actually have a higher skew value than the product since my bundle includes toys with the glove at a cheaper price, no one will buy it if they don't know about it right?

So your crappier glove was cheaper and you included a toy? You really think that that is a value skew? If I'm trying to buy a dog comb, I want a dog comb. Not a crappier dog comb and a toy. I don't need a toy.

3) I haven't offered a money back guarantee as Delomo offers.

I don't know how much more this converts, but why didn't you? It's not like this is a hard thing to do. You could have typed up a single sentence on your website.

4) The main reasons Delomo kicked my a$$ would actually be they did a more efficient job at marketing the product. My strategy has been IG/FB linked to my website, that's all. Oddly enough this company doesn't even exist on facebook? Or at least I cant find them.

Are you comparing your website to your website or to their Amazon listing? How do you even know how much they sell on their website? I bet that they sell 99% on Amazon.

The reason they kicked your butt is because they rank very high on Amazon and have good reviews. It's not because of their social media strategy.

5) I was never on youtube showcasing the product as when I tried it out the product sucked as mentioned before. As bio stated they do have a better product.

Finally you get to the real reason. Your product sucked. It has zero to do with youtube. They have 2 videos, 11 subscribers and 26k total views on Youtube.

6) Also they have affiliate marketing plugs on youtube/websites with direct link buy box to AMZ (I haven't done any affiliate marketing)

This is irrelevant.

7) They're copy write is a bit better than mine.

Again, pretty irrelevant

Here's what you should have done:
1) Order the top 10 gloves from Amazon
2) Test out the top 10 gloves from Amazon
3) Choose the best glove out of the 10
4) Find the best features out of the 10
5) Try to incorporate some of these features into the best glove
6) Find 5 manufacturers that make that glove and add your features
5) Find a way to differentiate your glove (I would have done it by color)
6) Take great photos of your glove. Make a good video
7) Make a good Amazon listing
8) Launch at a lower price, breakeven
9) Get reviews
10) Run PPC
11) Breakeven on your first 500 units
12) Raise price
13) Profit

This is what you did
1) Contact one manufacturer in China
2) Order gloves
3) List on Amazon
4) Make a website
5) Twiddle thumbs

I'm sorry to be so hard on you, but it's clear that you aren't learning your lesson. The fact that you listed "I had a sh*tty product" as your #5 reason tells it all. You don't give a sh*t about the people purchasing your product. You don't care if it works or not. You just want money.

All your reasons put the blame on your marketing, website or social media. The truth is that if you actually sold 10 a day on Amazon, it would have lasted one month because you would have 50 1-3 star reviews and get shut down by Amazon.
Damn.

@Andy Black @Fox

Make this post or the 13 step process a new notable thread? “Biophase’s Quick Start Guide to Amazon”

This could save hundreds or thousands of people massive headaches and money.
 

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Up front: I know NOTHING about selling products on Amazon. Only marketing. Keep that in mind with everything I'm about to say.

But it seems to me that you are in possession of an asset. A whole order of XXXX pet grooming gloves. No, the asset didn't perform as well as you hoped. They're not selling.

Now you're in a situation where you need to come up with whatever plan is going to give you the highest leverage with that asset, even if it means cutting your losses.

What if you did one minor, inexpensive tweak to give these gloves a slight upgrade and then sell them for a premium price? Kind of like the classic story from Robert Cialdini's book, Influence. In chapter 1, he tells this story...



So here's my idea:

Take 10 pairs of gloves down to a local embroidery shop, sewing machine shop, quilter with an embroidery machine, or friend who would do this as a favor. Have them embroider a beautiful dog on the back of each hand. Let's say you choose a pug. Or a German Shepherd. Or whatever dog you can use as a model for photography.

The cost of this shouldn't be a lot, as these machines are created to just take a design that is programmed in the computer, and the machine does all the work. It's just thread.

Now take these beautiful gloves and take highly emotional photographs of the glove from the back, showing the design. These photos should evoke all the love of caressing a pet, all the warm fuzzy feelings.

Now go online and post these gloves as "Pet Grooming Gloves for Pug Owners" and list them for double the price. This is only a test. It's only 10 pieces. You're validating the concept before you go gangbusters and pay to get ALL your gloves embroidered. But the focus is on the love and connection between the person and their dog. The focus is on the act of lovingly stroking their dog's fur, which they are going to do anyway, and which, thanks to the glove, will also come with a side benefit of taking out that loose hair that would have started getting all over their hand and flying around the room. Downplay the quality of the glove. Don't let that come into your buyer's mind. The quality doesn't matter. People don't need to expect it to be as good as a brush. If they want a complete grooming, they're going to go to a salon anyway. You're going for the first-time buyer of one of these things. Pet owners are already familiar with the concept of a glove like this, and now the cool fact that their favorite breed is depicted stylishly on the back of each glove is going to push them over the edge of finally getting the product.

Then go to facebook and find all the groups you can find of passionate pug owners and mention the gloves. (Pug owners are passionate about their pugs.) (Every dog owner is passionate about their breed. Golden retrievers. Labradors. Border collies. You get the picture... there's infinite directions you could go with this breed piece.) Actually--use a REALLY HAIRY dog, one that's notorious for shedding. E.g. no poodles! LOL...

Post your photos on instagram with tags like #pug grooming #pug love etc.

Suggest that people who know pug lovers buy this as the PERFECT Christmas gift for their brother or coworker or whatever.

Go around to local pet groomers, dog trainers, and veterinarians. Ask if they will let you sell the gloves there in exchange for X% of the "sale price" (which is double what you were asking before, so you have a margin to offer them). Some of them will give you display space.

See if you can sell all ten pairs. I bet you can. If they sell like hotcakes, at a great price point, then make some more in time to sell before Christmas.

Separately - here's another test.
Same product, different positioning. You can skip the embroidery on this set if you want.

There's a whole bunch of people out there who hate the way their hands feel after they pet a dog. [*Ahem* cough cough how would I know? :halo:]

This product solves a need: They can slip on the glove, pet their dog to their heart's desire, accomplish a bit of grooming in the process, and then slip the glove back off when they're done. The person is happy because they didn't have to get their hand feeling icky. The dog is happy because it got a ton of attention.

Create a system to find these people. This might take some thinking... maybe start in the dog groups on facebook and ask questions like, "Hey does anyone here know someone who doesn't like touching a dog because they're fastidious about what they touch? Maybe someone kind of like Monk around your pets? I'm doing some research and hoping to conduct a few interviews with people who experience this." And then go from there and see if you get any response, and ask some questions or conduct a survey, and see if you spot any patterns for people like this.

Then, using their responses, go write up some copy. "Do you hate touching dogs because you can't stand how your hands feel after you're done?" or whatever words they are using. Maybe they mention that the dog turns its head around and gets its wet nose on their hands, and they don't like that, either. Incorporate that into your copy. This product solves that. It's a dream come true for people who love their dogs but have sensory issues with petting them. Maybe there's a family with just one member who doesn't like to pet the dog... position it as a lifesaver for that situation.

And when you ship the product, include a free pair of latex (or allergy-free latex substitute) gloves, with a little note that suggests that they put on the latex glove first and then put on the grooming glove, and they'll be as happy as a lark.

The latex glove won't be expensive for you, and you're only including one pair, but it's a little touch that someone wouldn't have thought of (but that they will appreciate immensely). It'll be a WOW! moment. "I can finally have fun petting the dog!" Again - the person will not care that the product is junk in terms of grooming quality. That's not what it's about. It's solving a psychological need for them that might be worth 5 or 10 times the price.

Sell 10 of these as a test. If it takes off, go with it. If not, you haven't lost much because you were going to sell these as a loss anyway.

Just two ideas off the top of my head.
Pure marketing genius right there. Of late, I'm starting to have the belief that with good marketing and execution, one can sell anything.

To add on to that, sparechange can fill his IG account with posts that does just one thing, and only one thing : post and curate content of people stroking their dog and their dog feeling comfortable. He'll be remembered as the dog stroker. Perhaps even start his own hashtag #strokeyourdog. With a highly niche dog social media account like this, I believe it can actually grow, then drive sales to his site.

You could have easily "made up" some reviews. Come on, it's your own website, you control the....
With all due respect, I hope you're either being sarcastic or trolling. This doesn't seem like your style from what I read in your old ecommerce posts.....
 

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Pure marketing genius right there. Of late, I'm starting to have the belief that with good marketing and execution, one can sell anything.
That should be obvious, people have sold pet rocks for years... the issue here is the product is crap. The OP can polish the turd all he likes but it doesn't change the fact its an inferior product to EVERYONE else out there. Instead of improving the marketing and the copy, what @biophase is trying to explain (couldn't be a more detailed explanation) is get the dam product right first. Then work on marketing it.
 
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Thanks for the input @biophase

I was just stating some things that could be improved on my behalf, also as @Xeon mentioned I would have to disagree with fake reviews.

As @Bekit mentioned I called a local embroidery down in Calgary and they were wanting around $20+ for a tiny logo so I think that will be a no go.

Going to be doing a 60 hour week coming up, all I've been doing lately is sleeping and working. After my mini prison sentence is done Im going to work on my own product (new one) From my failure of this one I have a better grasp of what not to do & what to do.
 

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With all due respect, I hope you're either being sarcastic or trolling. This doesn't seem like your style from what I read in your old ecommerce posts.....
Regarding the fake reviews, remember he is talking about his own website, not faking reviews on Amazon or Ebay, etc... If he thinks having 0 reviews is a negative, I personally don't think writing a review or two on your own website will hurt you. There are many ecommerce stores and websites with a bunch of bogus testimonials. If you feel moral and want an actual review from someone else, just ask your friend to go to your site and write one. Then it's a real review right? But if you are going to do that, why bother asking your friend then? It's your own platform.
 

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Whats @Xeon up to? Bottles & Models?
No, more like water and hands. ;)
Tweaking my brand story to make it tighter as I want to hire a press release writer to try to get me mentioned in the news early next year.

Speaking of bottles and models, that sounds like a name for a craft beer brand. Bots & Mods. :duh:
Check out Hand Craft Beer from the Swan Valley | Feral Brewing Company and Feral Brewing Co. (@feralbrewing) • Instagram photos and videos
They look like a fun brand!

Btw, how old are you again? Under 30 I remember? You're still very young, don't give up!
 
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No, more like water and hands. ;)
Tweaking my brand story to make it tighter as I want to hire a press release writer to try to get me mentioned in the news early next year.

Speaking of bottles and models, that sounds like a name for a craft beer brand. Bots & Mods. :duh:
Check out Hand Craft Beer from the Swan Valley | Feral Brewing Company and Feral Brewing Co. (@feralbrewing) • Instagram photos and videos
They look like a fun brand!

Btw, how old are you again? Under 30 I remember? You're still very young, don't give up!
lol water and hands :D

Im not sure if being featured in the news will help as much as ya think, the product is most important.

Currently 26 going on 27, feel like an old man.. still haven't ''matured'' yet. Still feel like an 18 year old kid just running around life like a chicken with its head cut off not knowing whats going on. Then again the man himself MJ was a limo driver at my age so that makes me feel better.

Hope to meet him one day, would be awesome to have some beers while talking about life.
 
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About to clock in for my first OT shift, 10 hours straight for 6 days wooooo! Laughed pretty hard at the name of this chocolate bar. Gonna have some nice capital to play with when I get this cheque, let’s not blow the roll again on bad products? :D #100k2019
 

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As @Bekit mentioned I called a local embroidery down in Calgary and they were wanting around $20+ for a tiny logo so I think that will be a no go.
I think the point was that you should try to find different audiences (passionate ones with $$$ to spend) and position your product so it seems like it was made JUST FOR THEM.

Read this thread: Fastlane - You don't need a big idea
 
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Here’s a fun update, my original job I’ve been off for almost 2 months with some time being from it being shutdown , they have been open for a couple weeks and still haven’t been put on the schedule lol, prolly getting fired from my temp job by the end of December as I’m just helping for Xmas rush, ah the joys of pay cheques ho ho ho
 
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I just got a $1,400 cheque and paid $400+ in taxes.........so my net is $998

holy ***********

Doing a second 60 hour shift this week..
 

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One thing I always admire about you is how chill and laidback you're in the face of adversity and hardship lol
:clap:::thumbsup::fistbump:
 

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Heh, well I dno it’s rough but some people can have it worse I guess, hopefully I can look back at all the difficult times and laugh in the future.
 

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if you've been broke all your life (like many of us here), do $1K first.
then $10K.
then $100K.

everybody dreams of making millions but if you've never walked that road, you won't know what to expect and it's easy to get overwhelmed and distracted.

and don't start next year, start today, this week.

good luck.
Quick question about your breakdown...do you suggest first starting off with something that can get you to $1k and once reached move to another hustler that would allow you to reach your next goal? Struggling to start something because I am obsessing too much if it will bring me enough to quit my job or not.
 
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Quick question about your breakdown...do you suggest first starting off with something that can get you to $1k and once reached move to another hustler that would allow you to reach your next goal? Struggling to start something because I am obsessing too much if it will bring me enough to quit my job or not.
He meant breaking it down in steps, building a system that makes you $1k a month, then scale it to 10k...and so on.

Keep ya job bud, what are you struggling with?
 

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He meant breaking it down in steps, building a system that makes you $1k a month, then scale it to 10k...and so on.

Keep ya job bud, what are you struggling with?
Starting something and sticking to it long enough to see actual results instead of just jumping to the next shiny object.
 
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Starting something and sticking to it long enough to see actual results instead of just jumping to the next shiny object.
Do one thing and commit to it, what are you involved in?

Like the location btw, would love to live in the alps, could board year round..seems like a dream
 

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Do one thing and commit to it, what are you involved in?

Like the location btw, would love to live in the alps, could board year round..seems like a dream
I am all over the place....I jump from wanting to start a digital marketing company to drop shipping to creating a man's cosmetic line...I wake up at 5 AM and get excited because I picked an idea and by the end of the day I dismiss it. Feels like groundhog day : (

You can't really board year around anymore...not much left of the glacier but again its one of these things that once you have it in front of you all the time you don't appreciate it much.
 
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I am all over the place....I jump from wanting to start a digital marketing company to drop shipping to creating a man's cosmetic line...I wake up at 5 AM and get excited because I picked an idea and by the end of the day I dismiss it. Feels like groundhog day : (

You can't really board year around anymore...not much left of the glacier but again its one of these things that once you have it in front of you all the time you don't appreciate it much.
If you can think of a good product to sell I'd say go for that.

Mens cosmetics reminds of this...

How Dollar Shave Club's Founder Built a $1 Billion Company That Changed the Industry pretty neat to study
 

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One of the most respected members of this forum was so kind to use his time to provide you with advice / guidance free of charge and you choose to dismiss it.

Perhaps it would be wise to rethink your mindset and approach.
 

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One of the most respected members of this forum was so kind to use his time to provide you with advice / guidance free of charge and you choose to dismiss it.

Perhaps it would be wise to rethink your mindset and approach.
To whom was this message directed too?
 

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