F*ck This Guy - Tai Lopez

[Ninjakid]

Yeah. He did leave out some of the exact steps. I can see how that would bum some people out.

Perhaps he could have talked about how to fabricate a story and sell it as a non-fiction book about how to get rich, and promote it through an MLM until it ends up on the national best-sellers list, thus actually making you rich (which was his first ever successful business venture).

 

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[VDon]

Well, what we can learn from those guys is, that even someone with no legit credentials or track record can hit big.

This whole pay it forward stuff, guess the ethnicity, driving lambos and shooting threes and whatnot produces no value to me at all, but the internet is full of people mirin hard and spreading the word. I guess Instagram alone can make this guy a million every year.


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[Vigilante]

I still remember when he shot a video at "his house" and it turned out exposed to be a weekly VRBO-type rental.

 

[Javin]

TAI launched a book box club at 500% mark up vs just reading the book. Anyone else hear? LOL

I saw that. He sends 2 books? With videos basically giving the cliff notes of the books that he sends you...says the value is $120 dollars. Yikes!

 

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[VDon]

I still remember when he shot a video at "his house" and it turned out exposed to be a weekly VRBO-type rental.

So what do we learn? Even blatant lies are irrelevant to the mass audience.

If my country wasn't that small I'd maybe even try to do something similar.


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[ZF Lee]

The beauty of Tai is no matter what his haters say, he always seems to deliver the big personalities to his doorstep.

At this point, I expect him to do a video with President Trump soon. "Hey guys, I'm just here at Trump Tower visiting my bud, the next President."

Then all of us laugh and say "Ha Ha, bullshit!!"

And then the next thing you know, he's in Trump's office shooting the shit!

If anyone can do it, Tai can!

he already did that with Mark Cuban!

I might consider Cuban to be the antithesis of Trump.

But it wouldn't be the first time it happened before. Kiyosaki further reinforced his niche by writing some books with Trump.
Fastlaners, you don't have to read the Trump-Kiyosaki books unless you are a wantrapreneur
I know because I got them from Scribd!

 

[ZF Lee]

BTW; I give credit to MJ's mom for literally giving birth to TMF . Without her forever would I be poor.

THIS.
Imma get her something for mother's day shall I?

 

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[GatsbyMag]

They are your friends so why don't you just ask them what they have learned?

I'm kind of shy about asking them because we're not that close. I feel I can ask here because there is no connection here I have with anyone so I don't really feel any tension.

 

[TonyStark]

I'm kind of shy about asking them because we're not that close. I feel I can ask here because there is no connection here I have with anyone so I don't really feel any tension.

I think this will help....
Has Anyone Tried Tai Lopez's 67 Steps? • /r/Entrepreneur

So, created a Reddit account to talk about this.

For some background- I'm a current business/accounting student, and I read a lot. On the one hand, this means that I'm more likely to fall for the similarity principle- The subconscious cognitive bias that tells you that people who are similar to myself, and share certain traits [in this case, love of reading and an interest in business] are more trustworthy than people who don't.

On the other hand, it also means I know what the similarity principle actually is.

Now, I haven't finished the 67 steps, and I don't plan to. I had initially, of course, but after completing 1-12 I feel that I've seen enough to make some broad generalizations.

First, a disclaimer- Tai's advice is not all bad. In fact, a lot of it is fairly sound. Now, before you get your wallets out or prepare to call me out as a sockpuppet or whatever, let me finish- Tai's advice might be sound, but it is not unique or special. You can get pretty much the same advice, and a lot more depth, by signing up for a student success and intro to business class at your local community college.

Moving on, I'm going to address Tai's commercial. Now, I'll be honest, Tai's commercial is the entire reason I joined his site- Because I have never before seen an advertisement that hit every single one of the cognitive biases listed in "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion," and I thought that anyone who put together a commercial like that must have some idea of what they were doing- Even if they were a bit clumsy about the application. IMO, That 2-hour commercial can probably teach you more about marketing and sales than the entire rest of the 67 steps combined.

If you're not familiar with Influence, that's fine. I'm about to explain the ways that his ad used the cognitive biases described in it.

First, he opens up the ad with promises that he is going to give you something worth $100, free of charge, just for watching the video. This is the Principle of Reciprocity, the psychological bias that says that if someone gives you something, you are obliged to pay them back.

Now, his actual application of Reciprocity is very clumsy. You're just watching a video, after all, and as most people are aware, you can't just hand people things through the screen. Plus, as you all know, at the end he goes from offering you something for free, to offering you a free gift... With your purchase of a $67/month subscription. At this point, Tai falls prey to the Contrast principle- His initial promise of a free gift comes up against the sudden brick wall of a $67 fee. Now, he also clearly uses that principle when he asks us "What is living well worth?" and goes down the list from 1000, 500, and so on and so forth until he reaches that point, in addition to the established value of the gift- or, rather, claimed value of the gift- being higher than the asking price for the program.

Next, I'd like to talk about his convenient user testimony. The Social proof- Other people think this is a good thing! They like it! You know, Tai hasn't heard of anyone not liking the program at all! So, clearly... If you try it, you will find it valuable, because everyone else did. He used it pretty well, to be honest, even including e-mail addresses and contact info to 'prove' he wasn't scamming you. Which, he might not be- For all I know, there are real people at the end of that contact info, who really do feel that the program helped them.

That doesn't mean anything beyond their own personal feels, though.

He also spends a lot of time flattering the viewer ham-handedly. "If you've watched this far, you're obviously pretty smart" came up at several times- And this was probably calculated just like everything else. When someone compliments you, even when it's obviously fake... You like them more. Maybe only a little bit, but it's a measurable amount, and the Principle of Liking states that if you like someone, you're more likely to buy what they're selling you.

He also claims to have experience, and luck, in finding several mentors- Who he quotes, along with other famous authors, almost religiously. He's not the one who came up with this, he claims- It was other people, wiser people, respected people. Authorities, you might say, which he is appealing to.

Then, you get the final bias in the advertisement video- The scarcity bias. Why, he's only opening this program [which he advertised on youtube, heh] to a handful of people- Maybe a hundred or two, I dunno, not that many, so you'd better buy in fast!

And there we get the principle of Consistency- Come on, sign on the dotted line. Once you sign, once you pay, you'll know that you've signed up for it, and you'll rationalize it- Obviously you've gotten benefits, obviously you think it's worth it, otherwise why would you have signed up for it?

Every single cognitive bias in the book, all in one single video. Pretty impressive, though he's obviously not that great at using them- His whole video screams "Scam Artist", not "This is a great idea and you should feel great for having it," after all.

Unfortunately, the steps themselves are much less educational than that first ad video. Each of the videos could probably be summed up in less than five minutes, if it wasn't for Tai's rambling anecdotes, and- As Tai himself says once or twice- He could have condensed them into a much shorter length. However, he has two reason he doesn't, which he spells out at length.

Firstly, he wants us to put the effort in to glean the 'Ounce of gold' from the hour long pile of dirt. Second, he wants us to take at least 67 days going through the course- Long enough to form a habit.

These feed back, again, to the consistency bias- If you've spent this long, and this much effort, going through the course? You must find it worth it! So, if you've found it worth it, you might as well keep your subscription active, so you can keep learning more. It's only 67 a month after all, right?

Let me counter that, with one of Tai's own arguments- If you're spending 67 a month on his program, that's time and money you're not spending on other things- Things like actual business books, which cost about 5-10 on Amazon from my experience.

Which, to be fair, is not to say that Tai's series is worthless. It's entirely possible that at some point later in the series, he comes out with something unique and insightful, completely different from his early videos.

If you want to check and see, though, make sure to cancel the additional monthly fees. There's no need to pay more than the initial seventy bucks for what he's selling you.

I hope this helps.

 

[toxicrain]

ummm... who's is this Tai chick? Some dan bilzerian wannabe?

 

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[Squadus]

I am astonished at the amount of ignorance in this thread. My last post was completely ignored by people who still believe he is a "scammer".

His brand is valuable because he provides extremely valuable content.

You guys do know that if you search the Internet for evidence supporting and on the contrary you will find both. That is how misinformation works and it's all over reddit and forums from people who don't know better, and you guys are spreading falsity to each other. It's hilarious. Misinformation has been used to deceive people for millenia through religion, money and war.

The only way to form an educated opinion is to have actually experienced the damn thing.

I have been through his programs and am in his most recent Social Media Marketing Agency Program. I must say that is an amazing course and actually teaches you how to create a tangible business model (whereas The 67 Steps was focused on mindset).

Please stop spewing hate about Tai if you don't know what you're talking about. Thanks.

 

[snappyhappy]

The beauty of Tai is no matter what his haters say, he always seems to deliver the big personalities to his doorstep.

At this point, I expect him to do a video with President Trump soon. "Hey guys, I'm just here at Trump Tower visiting my bud, the next President."

Then all of us laugh and say "Ha Ha, bullshit!!"

And then the next thing you know, he's in Trump's office shooting the shit!

If anyone can do it, Tai can!

It's the value he is providing to Cuban, Gary Vee etc. that gets them to his doorstep.

Eg. Gary Vee had a new book coming out..

Tai: "Hey, come do a video at my house. I'll spend $80k on Ads, I have xxx,xxx subscribers and the video will get 900k views, good for your book launch."

I can see why they would agree to an interview, and it's smart on Tai's part because of the 'positive association' effect.

Maybe Tai will be asking you to do a video soon! Forum would explode Haha

 

[lewj24]

I am astonished at the amount of ignorance in this thread. My last post was completely ignored by people who still believe he is a "scammer".

His brand is valuable because he provides extremely valuable content.

You guys do know that if you search the Internet for evidence supporting and on the contrary you will find both. That is how misinformation works and it's all over reddit and forums from people who don't know better, and you guys are spreading falsity to each other. It's hilarious. Misinformation has been used to deceive people for millenia through religion, money and war.

The only way to form an educated opinion is to have actually experienced the damn thing.

I have been through his programs and am in his most recent Social Media Marketing Agency Program. I must say that is an amazing course and actually teaches you how to create a tangible business model (whereas The 67 Steps was focused on mindset).

Please stop spewing hate about Tai if you don't know what you're talking about. Thanks.

How "valuable" would his content be if he didn't show lambo's and mansions in his ads? I'd bet he'd have a lot less customers/followers and I'd bet he'd have a lot more haters and I'd bet his content wouldn't seem as valuable.

 

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[Mr. Gray]

This is a very interesting thread indeed! As always, TMF full of insight, I begin to drool as I load the forum's homepage.

Anyway I have something that will intrigue many of you, recently Tai has started a social media marketing course, his aim is to make 100 6 figure income earners with this course. After reading TMF and using my own common sense, it seemed obvious to me that this was one of those low entry, get rich easy schemes. However I'm really confused now because I have 3 friends who are on the course, 2 of them are already getting paid $1000 a month and the other one (online friend) was recently interviewed by big media outlets for running a successful agency at his age (he's 15). And they've all given credit to Tai's course.

Maybe this is just a coincidence. Has anyone actually been on his social media course and if so, how valuable is the learning material? There are a lot of positive testimonials of the course on Youtube and his own social media but for obvious reasons those can't be relied upon.

The course is just ok,

I didn't pay anything for it I torrented it and I wouldn't pay $997 for it.

The value in the course is making you think you can run a social media company with just what he is telling you.

The problem with these testimonials is that they sold the company, but with Tai's material they will be lucky to keep them as a client.

His course is the foundation and you have to build the house.

 

[GMSI7D]

Tai Lopez exposed !



he is confessing to his 880,000 followers that all is scam

good video to watch

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA8rxxdsOsA




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[Sanj Modha]

Seriously, does anyone give care about Tai Lopez? I certainly don't.

He doesn't pay my bills. He won't achieve my dreams.

I don't doubt his success but it's becoming an obsession now. Focus on your shit.

 

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[nw8]

Why is everyone here hating on him lol. We all want the fastlane, and he's got it, isn't he on our side? Maybe listen to his advice rather than blocking everything out. Something he talks about in his 67 steps is not to support one side until you can argue for the opposing side just as well, which is what Charlie Munger said. Life isn't so black and white.

You can't deny that someone who has read so many books and is part of Mensa has advice that you can take away either by listening to what he says or just observing how he sells.

He spends money on ads and lamborghinis to market to his audience which is genius. Don't know why people hate on him for that, seems pretty logical.

Lastly, if you hate rich people like him, then you'll never become rich because it's subconsciously difficult to become something you hate. So chill out and listen!

 

[rpeck90]

Apart from lambo videos and paying escorts, he has done nothing. Try using charlie munger quotes to raise capital...

 

[masterneme]

Why is everyone here hating on him lol. We all want the fastlane, and he's got it, isn't he on our side? Maybe listen to his advice rather than blocking everything out. Something he talks about in his 67 steps is not to support one side until you can argue for the opposing side just as well, which is what Charlie Munger said. Life isn't so black and white.

You can't deny that someone who has read so many books and is part of Mensa has advice that you can take away either by listening to what he says or just observing how he sells.

He spends money on ads and lamborghinis to market to his audience which is genius. Don't know why people hate on him for that, seems pretty logical.

Lastly, if you hate rich people like him, then you'll never become rich because it's subconsciously difficult to become something you hate. So chill out and listen!

No one hates Tai Lopez, you perceive it that way because you like him. It's always the same us-vs-them mentality with these cult of personality "gurus".

Don't expect people here to admire him because Tai Lopez is the perfect example of "the paradox of practice", he doesn't offer any value and it's just a poser, exactly the same way 99.99% of Internet Marketing "gurus" are.

His only accomplishment (and maybe lesson to learn) is making a worldwide paid AdWords campaign. You consider this brilliant but for me is laughable, what's so sophisticated about making a Youtube ad using the shotgun approach? Can't you do the same? CAN'T ANYONE DO THE SAME?

If you read some black hat forums there you find stuff that will blow your mind.

Tai Lopez gathered some money, AFAIK through some scammy dating sites and some other I'll-teach-you-the-secret-to-riches BS.
He rented a car and a house and put a bunch of books in a garage.
He made a video showing off and promote it worlwide without any targeting whatsoever.

Sorry, I don't see any ingenuity here.

Many people don't pay attention to him because it's EXTREMELY dangerous putting information in your brain from untrustworthy sources.

Remember, drug lords have millions too... would you rather learn how to manage worldwide logistics from one of them or from a respected manager with integrity?

Tai Lopez has nothing to teach you 100% guaranteed.

 

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[Vigilante]

Tai Lopez exposed !



he is confessing to his 880,000 followers that all is scam

good video to watch

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA8rxxdsOsA




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Question. Do people really watch this guy ramble on for hours? Really?

 

[JAJT]

Question. Do people really watch this guy ramble on for hours? Really?

I gave it about 20 seconds before jumping ahead to find it was just more stuttering distracted nonsense the whole way through. Frankly it was painful.

 

[G-Man]

Question. Do people really watch this guy ramble on for hours? Really?

C'mon it's not really that hard to believe. People watch daytime talk shows, too. I saw one sitting in the Midas the other day with a motivational speaker that was a kid.

You've been hanging around here too long to appreciate the level of inanity people will listen to.

 

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[RHL]

Question. Do people really watch this guy ramble on for hours? Really?

Just a reminder that "Storage Wars" and "My 600lbs Life" were both things that happened.

 

[Vigilante]

I just don't understand why anyone would want to sit through that.

 

[Andy Black]

I gave it about 20 seconds before jumping ahead to find it was just more stuttering distracted nonsense the whole way through. Frankly it was painful.

Painful is the word. He certainly repels those that wouldn't be his customers.

 

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[Nicoknowsbest]

I just don't understand why anyone would want to sit through that.

Because nobody gets how precious time is.

These people drive 10 miles to save $ 0,05 on beer, but waste 5 hours watching nonsense. Every day.

Yeah, right...

Wasted time will never come back.

But yeah, I guess Tai Lopez is more important than freedom.

Well...

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Because nobody gets how precious time is.

These people drive 10 miles to save $ 0,05 on beer, but waste 5 hours watching nonsense. Every day.

Yeah, right...

Wasted time will never come back.

But yeah, I guess Tai Lopez is more important than freedom.

Well...

Average American watches 5 hours of TV per day

 

[G-Man]

Average American watches 5 hours of TV per day

TBH this confounds me a little. It has to be that the data is skewed by people that stay home and watch 14 hrs of tv a day doesn't it?

There's no way a gainfully employed person watches 5 hrs a day, unless maybe they make up for it by literally watching TV all day Sat and Sun.

 

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[MidwestLandlord]

TBH this confounds me a little. It has to be that the data is skewed by people that stay home and watch 14 hrs of tv a day doesn't it?

There's no way a gainfully employed person watches 5 hrs a day, unless maybe they make up for it by literally watching TV all day Sat and Sun.

The article lists it out for age and race. So it shows a drop for those in the "gainfully employed" age ranges:

Age: 25-34: 27 hours, 36 minutes. (per week)

Age: 35-49: 33 hours, 40 minutes. (per week)

Age: 50-64: 43 hours, 56 minutes. (per week)

Since it's an average, that means half watch more, half watch less haha.

I haven't watched TV in YEARS. (a movie once a week with the wifey person though)

 

[masterneme]

I'd bet that even though younger poeple don't watch as much TV as the older ones they waste as many hours (if not more) watching stupid crap (for example some informarkeTAIrs) on YT.