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<div class="bbWrapper">Hi guys (and ladies),<br /> <br /> I’ve been wondering about this for some time, investing and making some passive income all seems like fun. But it’s clear that this only truly works when you invest some big chunks of money. So my question is:<br /> <br /> <b><i>At what amount of income/net worth did you start investing seriously,</i></b> <i><b>w</b></i><b><i>hat were your first big investments and how did these work out?</i></b><br /> <br /> I’m interested to see if you guys slowly built your investment portfolio or maybe after selling a business you went “all in”? I buy some stocks and crypto here and there but that’s more gambling than serious investing.<br /> <br /> I want to make clear that i’m just interested in the stories and will not take it as advice.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 121607" data-quote="JNagtegaal" data-source="post: 1131372" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131372" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131372">JNagtegaal said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi guys (and ladies),<br /> <br /> I’ve been wondering about this for some time, investing and making some passive income all seems like fun. But it’s clear that this only truly works when you invest some big chunks of money. So my question is:<br /> <br /> <b><i>At what amount of income/net worth did you start investing seriously,</i></b> <i><b>w</b></i><b><i>hat were your first big investments and how did these work out?</i></b><br /> <br /> I’m interested to see if you guys slowly built your investment portfolio or maybe after selling a business you went “all in”? I buy some stocks and crypto here and there but that’s more gambling than serious investing.<br /> <br /> I want to make clear that i’m just interested in the stories and will not take it as advice. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Pretty sure people invest different amounts of money depending on their wanted lifestyle, TMF mentions it at some point, and Unscripted does a little segment about it near the end of the book.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">It’s never to little to start.<br /> <br /> When you get a little taste of it, it’s easier to execute.<br /> <br /> When I saw I could make free money as a kid, that’s when I became hooked.<br /> <br /> $1000 makes $50 in passive income.<br /> $1,000,000 makes $5k.<br /> <br /> It truly feels like winning money every month.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1131407" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131407" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131407">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> $1000 makes $50 in passive income.<br /> $1,000,000 makes $5k.<br /> <br /> It truly feels like winning money every month. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I just finished the audiobook of the 10th Anniversary of TMF, and the part where it talks about the passivity of money got me thinking of how silly I&#039;ve been not investing more money early on and earning via interest.<br /> <br /> Basic shit that I&#039;ve just overlooked. <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-woah.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":duh:" title="Duh :duh:" data-shortname=":duh:" /><br /> <br /> Since hearing that part again, I&#039;ve invested some money into a savings account with ~3% interest.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 138977" data-quote="ThomasTLM" data-source="post: 1131408" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131408" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131408">ThomasTLM said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I just finished the audiobook of the 10th Anniversary of TMF, and the part where it talks about the passivity of money got me thinking of how silly I&#039;ve been not investing more money early on and earning via interest.<br /> <br /> Basic shit that I&#039;ve just overlooked. <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-woah.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":duh:" title="Duh :duh:" data-shortname=":duh:" /><br /> <br /> Since hearing that part again, I&#039;ve invested some money into a savings account with ~3% interest. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yeah I missed this the first time I read the books, rereading them and it changed my thoughts on investing. 3/5% payed out each month seems better now that finding that “one” stock about which you’ve got no clue what’s going to happen with it. <br /> <br /> My business savings account gives me 1,65% each month which I didn’t know and it was fun to see a random payment (however small) which was fully passive. Time <b><i>could </i></b>be your friend.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 121607" data-quote="JNagtegaal" data-source="post: 1131452" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131452" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131452">JNagtegaal said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Yeah I missed this the first time I read the books, rereading them and it changed my thoughts on investing. 3/5% payed out each month seems better now that finding that “one” stock about which you’ve got no clue what’s going to happen with it.<br /> <br /> My business savings account gives me 1,65% each month which I didn’t know and it was fun to see a random payment (however small) which was fully passive. Time <b><i>could </i></b>be your friend. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> US Treasuries SGOV /BIL ETFs have been paying 5+ % for a while now.<br /> <br /> So have Bank CDs.<br /> <br /> 1.65% doesn&#039;t cover inflation, and never does.<br /> <br /> Here are some links on money systems...<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="398901" data-url="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/tags/money-system/" data-host="www.thefastlaneforum.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/assets/logo/fastlane_discussion_og.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.thefastlaneforum.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/tags/money-system/" class="link link--internal fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="" rel="" data-proxy-href=""> money system </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc"></div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/assets/logo/Fastlane32.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.thefastlaneforum.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.thefastlaneforum.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="415755" data-url="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/tags/paycheck-pot/" data-host="www.thefastlaneforum.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/assets/logo/fastlane_discussion_og.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.thefastlaneforum.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/tags/paycheck-pot/" class="link link--internal fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="" rel="" data-proxy-href=""> paycheck pot </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc"></div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/assets/logo/Fastlane32.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.thefastlaneforum.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.thefastlaneforum.com </div> </div> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1131407" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131407" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131407">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It’s never to little to start.<br /> <br /> When you get a little taste of it, it’s easier to execute.<br /> <br /> When I saw I could make free money as a kid, that’s when I became hooked.<br /> <br /> $1000 makes $50 in passive income.<br /> $1,000,000 makes $5k.<br /> <br /> It truly feels like winning money every month. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I&#039;m gonna start doing this, I wished I would have done this when I was 21. Charles Schwab estimated that at $400 dollar&#039;s I would make .04 cents.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1131470" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131470" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131470">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> US Treasuries SGOV /BIL ETFs have been paying 5+ % for a while now.<br /> <br /> So have Bank CDs.<br /> <br /> 1.65% doesn&#039;t cover inflation, and never does.<br /> <br /> Here are some links on money systems...<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="398901" data-url="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/tags/money-system/" data-host="www.thefastlaneforum.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/assets/logo/fastlane_discussion_og.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.thefastlaneforum.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/tags/money-system/" class="link link--internal fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="" rel="" data-proxy-href=""> money system </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc"></div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/assets/logo/Fastlane32.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.thefastlaneforum.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.thefastlaneforum.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="415755" data-url="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/tags/paycheck-pot/" data-host="www.thefastlaneforum.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/assets/logo/fastlane_discussion_og.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.thefastlaneforum.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/tags/paycheck-pot/" class="link link--internal fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="" rel="" data-proxy-href=""> paycheck pot </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc"></div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/assets/logo/Fastlane32.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.thefastlaneforum.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.thefastlaneforum.com </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>JNagtegaal wrote 1.65% interest per month. That seems really high to me! Especially for just a business savings account. Using an online monthly to yearly interest calculator, apparently that&#039;s 21.7% interest per annum. I assume the calculator is compounding the monthly interest. 21.7% is on par with what some credit cards charge... Seems very high.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/121607/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="121607" data-username="@JNagtegaal">@JNagtegaal</a> did you mean 1.65% interest per year?<br /> <br /> P.S. My friend took the slow lane from roughly age 31 to 48 and retired recently. One common thread I&#039;ve heard from people who aggressively saved and invested is that it blew their mind the first year their investments earned more money than their job paid them in salary. When your money is passively making more than you are actively working to make, it can really open your eyes to the power of investing.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Started investing since I became an engineer, a bit before my 30s (3-4 years ago).<br /> Basic slowlane getting rich strategy of living below my means and saving every month.<br /> <br /> I got term deposits in New Zealand that are between 5 - 6% / year over 1 to 5 years.<br /> In Australia, currently, a savings account at Suncorp gives 5.05%.<br /> Plus stocks and others.<br /> <br /> As <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@MJ DeMarco">@MJ DeMarco</a> said, it&#039;s like winning the lottery every month. Not life changing for me yet but it feels good seeing that money added to my accounts without doing much.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 145110" data-quote="Vamsi Interviews" data-source="post: 1131538" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131538" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131538">Vamsi Interviews said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> JNagtegaal wrote 1.65% interest per month. That seems really high to me! Especially for just a business savings account. Using an online monthly to yearly interest calculator, apparently that&#039;s 21.7% interest per annum. I assume the calculator is compounding the monthly interest. 21.7% is on par with what some credit cards charge... Seems very high.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/121607/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="121607" data-username="@JNagtegaal">@JNagtegaal</a> did you mean 1.65% interest per year? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Well the interest seems based on the amount of money that is in my account, I see that I’ve overlooked the 1,65 it’s actually 1,45. Here is the chart:<br /> <br /> <div class="bbTable"> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>€ 0 - € 25.000</td><td>1,45%</td></tr><tr><td>€ 25.000 - € 50.000</td><td>1,25%</td></tr><tr><td>€ 50.000 - € 100.000</td><td>1,25%</td></tr><tr><td>€ 100.000 - € 250.000</td><td>0,35%</td></tr><tr><td>€ 250.000 en hoger</td><td>0,00%</td></tr></table> </div><br /> This does however get payed each month based on the amount that is in my account, it won’t make me rich but I’m saving as much as possible from my business so until I have €100.000 at least it’s working for me in some way. But yeah interest that is payed also gets interest the next month if i’m correct.<br /> <br /> <br /> About the story of your friend, I think that if you decide to go slowlane (some people have pretty high paying jobs). The key would be to have dividend stocks or REIT’s, at least something that pays you each month/quarter. This takes away the hope &amp; pray (at least some of it), still it’s a long way up if you don’t invest at least 5k a month I think.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Even 5k savings a month is a long way:<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/1722062554658-webp.57385/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/54/54001-d02808dedde7714ad39fc5f2b9060a49.jpg?hash=Dn4PX767vI" class="bbImage " style="" alt="1722062554658.webp" title="1722062554658.webp" width="491" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/1722062580892-webp.57386/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/54/54002-9ec6e81e3687fe5dad895a47f6c8bd82.jpg?hash=O0hMz_o0N-" class="bbImage " style="" alt="1722062580892.webp" title="1722062580892.webp" width="214" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> <br /> <br /> And that&#039;s to reach &quot;just&quot; 1 million (in Australia that&#039;s the price of a decent house now). Assuming, and hoping, you will invest $ 5k every month, for 12+ years, and that it will average 5% interest / year.<br /> If you lose a big chunk somehow, stock market down, house market crash, etc, you&#039;re back to years of the same grind.<br /> <br /> As an engineer on a low 6 figures salary, I don&#039;t save 5k a month.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 140079" data-quote="Alexandrel" data-source="post: 1131559" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131559" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131559">Alexandrel said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Even 5k savings a month is a long way:<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/57385/" target="_blank">View attachment 57385</a><br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/57386/" target="_blank">View attachment 57386</a><br /> <br /> <br /> And that&#039;s to reach &quot;just&quot; 1 million (in Australia that&#039;s the price of a decent house now). Assuming, and hoping, you will invest $ 5k every month, for 12+ years, and that it will average 5% interest / year.<br /> If you lose a big chunk somehow, stock market down, house market crash, etc, you&#039;re back to years of the same grind.<br /> <br /> As an engineer on a low 6 figures salary, I don&#039;t save 5k a month. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I don&#039;t know if my friend saved 5k a month. He did save for a good while though, longer than 12 years, and he also lived fairly low on expenses. He never deprived himself of stuff, but he made sure that he knew what he wanted and only spent money on those things (e.g. good food and board games) and avoided spending money on things he didn&#039;t value (e.g. fancy cars). He had read <a href="https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-simple-math-behind-early-retirement/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">this article</a> by Mr. Money Moustache and it basically plots retirement as a function of % of savings vs. expenses, in # of years to retire. In my friend&#039;s mind, he viewed a large purchase as a tradeoff between having that item now vs. retiring x years later, based on the cost of the item. So between retiring 3 years early or having a fancy car, he chose to retire 3 years early (hypothetical numbers). <br /> <br /> <script class="js-extraPhrases" type="application/json"> { "lightbox_close": "Close", "lightbox_next": "Next", "lightbox_previous": "Previous", "lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.", "lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow", "lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow", "lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen", "lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails", "lightbox_download": "Download", "lightbox_share": "Share", "lightbox_zoom": "Zoom", "lightbox_new_window": "New window", "lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar" } </script> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="years_to_retirement.png" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mrmoneymustache.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2Fyears_to_retirement.png&amp;hash=c581994922c520fb174d5d46dc291de4" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mrmoneymustache.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2Fyears_to_retirement.png&amp;hash=c581994922c520fb174d5d46dc291de4" data-url="https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/years_to_retirement.png" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="years_to_retirement.png" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> This is assuming you can keep your expenses fixed. Home ownership is definitely useful in places where rents can go up without control. In places where rents are controlled, like where I live, then I don&#039;t see a need to own my own place. I&#039;m happy renting since rents can only be increased by 2-3% per year. <br /> <br /> Most losses from stock market crash or housing market crashes are not permanent losses (unless you sell the asset and cash out at that time). You can often ride it out. My friend rode out many stock market dips over the years. At some point your portfolio will grow so big that the volatility won&#039;t matter and your average returns will more than make up for any temporary losses.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 145110" data-quote="Vamsi Interviews" data-source="post: 1131562" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131562" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131562">Vamsi Interviews said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t know if my friend saved 5k a month. He did save for a good while though, longer than 12 years, and he also lived fairly low on expenses. He never deprived himself of stuff, but he made sure that he knew what he wanted and only spent money on those things (e.g. good food and board games) and avoided spending money on things he didn&#039;t value (e.g. fancy cars). He had read <a href="https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-simple-math-behind-early-retirement/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">this article</a> by Mr. Money Moustache and it basically plots retirement as a function of % of savings vs. expenses, in # of years to retire. In my friend&#039;s mind, he viewed a large purchase as a tradeoff between having that item now vs. retiring x years later, based on the cost of the item. So between retiring 3 years early or having a fancy car, he chose to retire 3 years early (hypothetical numbers).<br /> <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="years_to_retirement.png" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mrmoneymustache.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2Fyears_to_retirement.png&amp;hash=c581994922c520fb174d5d46dc291de4" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mrmoneymustache.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2Fyears_to_retirement.png&amp;hash=c581994922c520fb174d5d46dc291de4" data-url="https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/years_to_retirement.png" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="years_to_retirement.png" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> This is assuming you can keep your expenses fixed. Home ownership is definitely useful in places where rents can go up without control. In places where rents are controlled, like where I live, then I don&#039;t see a need to own my own place. I&#039;m happy renting since rents can only be increased by 2-3% per year.<br /> <br /> Most losses from stock market crash or housing market crashes are not permanent losses (unless you sell the asset and cash out at that time). You can often ride it out. My friend rode out many stock market dips over the years. At some point your portfolio will grow so big that the volatility won&#039;t matter and your average returns will more than make up for any temporary losses. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Another way to look at it is: How can you accumulate savings equivalent to 25x your yearly expenses? So if my expected annual expenses for retirement are $50k/yr, then how can I accumulate $1.5m. This is assuming you live on something like 4% returns, which is fairly conservative.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 145110" data-quote="Vamsi Interviews" data-source="post: 1131564" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131564" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131564">Vamsi Interviews said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Another way to look at it is: How can you accumulate savings equivalent to 25x your yearly expenses? So if my expected annual expenses for retirement are $50k/yr, then how can I accumulate $1.5m. This is assuming you live on something like 4% returns, which is fairly conservative. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Well I do have to say that I did not wish to steer the conversation to €50k/year, €50k a month sounds more like it. Alexandrel’s example/graph simply shows that going slowlane is not worth it if you want to have a luxurious life not penny pinching. I get that you can “life good” and it won’t seem like penny pinching but that doesn’t really suit the spirit of this forum.<br /> <br /> A good friend of mine is very different from me in financial perspective and is now looking to buy a new car, he showed me a Volkswagen Polo that cost 13k and had a few small options. One of my best friends is selling his full option Polo for around 15/16k. My brother found this too expensive(I think it’s worth it). Although my brother lives well and takes care of his money the fact that he won’t spend 3k more on something that in my opinion makes the car a better experience is something that would annoy me.<br /> <br /> If however these things <b>truly</b> do not bother you then it’s hard to get someone of the slowlane and into the fastlane process. I think it’s a matter of perspective.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 121607" data-quote="JNagtegaal" data-source="post: 1131571" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131571" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131571">JNagtegaal said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Well I do have to say that I did not wish to steer the conversation to €50k/year, €50k a month sounds more like it. Alexandrel’s example/graph simply shows that going slowlane is not worth it if you want to have a luxurious life not penny pinching. I get that you can “life good” and it won’t seem like penny pinching but that doesn’t really suit the spirit of this forum.<br /> <br /> My brother is very different from me in financial perspective and is now looking to buy a new car, he showed me a Volkswagen Polo that cost 13k and had a few small options. One of my best friends is selling his full option Polo for around 15/16k. My brother found this too expensive(I think it’s worth it). Although my brother lives well and takes care of his money the fact that he won’t spend 3k more on something that in my opinion makes the car a better experience is something that would annoy me.<br /> <br /> If however these things <b>truly</b> do not bother you then it’s hard to get someone of the slowlane and into the fastlane process. I think it’s a matter of perspective. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>My main reasons for wanting the fastlane are:<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Independence and Freedom. I get to work on the projects I want, get to impact the world in a way that is deeply personal to me, and I get to see the effects of my work personally. I also have the freedom and control to pivot and change things, as well as implement risky innovations when I deem it appropriate. A traditional job rarely offers any of these things. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I think the fastlane is generally more fulfilling and meaningful. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fastlane can create greater value and more impact in the long run. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fastlane can teach me more in a shorter span of time.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fastlane can solve bigger problems, so if there&#039;s a problem out there that I care about a lot but isn&#039;t being solved by anyone else, the fastlane can give me the resources to do it. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fastlane allows me to help more people at scale.</li> </ul>So to me there are many more reasons for the fastlane than just earning $50k/mo</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 145110" data-quote="Vamsi Interviews" data-source="post: 1131581" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131581" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131581">Vamsi Interviews said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My main reasons for wanting the fastlane are:<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Independence and Freedom. I get to work on the projects I want, get to impact the world in a way that is deeply personal to me, and I get to see the effects of my work personally. I also have the freedom and control to pivot and change things, as well as implement risky innovations when I deem it appropriate. A traditional job rarely offers any of these things.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I think the fastlane is generally more fulfilling and meaningful.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fastlane can create greater value and more impact in the long run.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fastlane can teach me more in a shorter span of time.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fastlane can solve bigger problems, so if there&#039;s a problem out there that I care about a lot but isn&#039;t being solved by anyone else, the fastlane can give me the resources to do it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The fastlane allows me to help more people at scale.</li> </ul>So to me there are many more reasons for the fastlane than just earning $50k/mo </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>All the reasons that you state are capable of delivering a €50k/month income.<br /> <br /> Solve bigger problems? Equals more € in the bank.<br /> Help more people at scale? Equals more people paying you.<br /> <br /> I think we’re on the same page, we might just have different ways of expressing our thoughts.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 121607" data-quote="JNagtegaal" data-source="post: 1131372" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1131372" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1131372">JNagtegaal said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi guys (and ladies),<br /> <br /> I’ve been wondering about this for some time, investing and making some passive income all seems like fun. But it’s clear that this only truly works when you invest some big chunks of money. So my question is:<br /> <br /> <b><i>At what amount of income/net worth did you start investing seriously,</i></b> <i><b>w</b></i><b><i>hat were your first big investments and how did these work out?</i></b><br /> <br /> I’m interested to see if you guys slowly built your investment portfolio or maybe after selling a business you went “all in”? I buy some stocks and crypto here and there but that’s more gambling than serious investing.<br /> <br /> I want to make clear that i’m just interested in the stories and will not take it as advice. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Would you operate a business without knowing the business? No.<br /> <br /> I hear words like &quot;I&#039;ve invested in some stocks&quot; &quot;of which I know nothing about&quot;.<br /> <br /> Stock trading demands knowledge about the companies whose stock you want to buy. Have a clear idea about not only the current performance of the company, but also its past, and how does the future look for at least the next 10 years, based on some good data.<br /> <br /> Once you have conviction, invest. Don&#039;t &quot;Stop Loss&quot;. Be disciplined. Set a target, and execute once the target is achieved, no matter how the market is that day.<br /> <br /> <b>Never go by &quot;tips&quot;. </b>It&#039;s the same as working any business based on tips.<br /> <br /> If all this sounds like hard work, stay away from stocks. And don&#039;t even think of F&amp;O.<br /> <br /> Remember, failure is almost certain if you do not know what you are doing - <b>in any business.</b></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 132476" data-quote="wahiemukesh" data-source="post: 1133434" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1133434" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1133434">wahiemukesh said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Would you operate a business without knowing the business? No.<br /> <br /> I hear words like &quot;I&#039;ve invested in some stocks&quot; &quot;of which I know nothing about&quot;.<br /> <br /> Stock trading demands knowledge about the companies whose stock you want to buy. Have a clear idea about not only the current performance of the company, but also its past, and how does the future look for at least the next 10 years, based on some good data.<br /> <br /> Once you have conviction, invest. Don&#039;t &quot;Stop Loss&quot;. Be disciplined. Set a target, and execute once the target is achieved, no matter how the market is that day.<br /> <br /> <b>Never go by &quot;tips&quot;. </b>It&#039;s the same as working any business based on tips.<br /> <br /> If all this sounds like hard work, stay away from stocks. And don&#039;t even think of F&amp;O.<br /> <br /> Remember, failure is almost certain if you do not know what you are doing - <b>in any business.</b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You’re right. I’ve never thought about it like this thank you.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I posted a thread on here few years back -- which I still follow and stand by everything I said back then. Do not wait to beef up your mental fortitude, learn to ignore ALL the day-to-day noise, and for gods sake stop &#039;gambling&#039; your money away. <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/the-most-important-non-fastlane-thread-you-will-ever-read-investing-content-inside.105121/#post-1020293" class="link link--internal">My Investing Thread</a><br /> <br /> Following basic principles outlined only brought more wealth and financial security to my life, and my attitude and mindset are night and day where I was at 5-10 years back.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 48932" data-quote="fastlane_dad" data-source="post: 1133511" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1133511" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1133511">fastlane_dad said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I posted a thread on here few years back -- which I still follow and stand by everything I said back then. Do not wait to beef up your mental fortitude, learn to ignore ALL the day-to-day noise, and for gods sake stop &#039;gambling&#039; your money away.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/the-most-important-non-fastlane-thread-you-will-ever-read-investing-content-inside.105121/#post-1020293" class="link link--internal">My Investing Thread</a><br /> <br /> Following basic principles outlined only brought more wealth and financial security to my life, and my attitude and mindset are night and day where I was at 5-10 years back. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What’s your top 3 assets for wealth conservation?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I always recommend starting early and with smaller amounts. It’s easy to say you have a high-risk tolerance, but it feels very different when the market swings and it’s your money on the line. It’s crucial to know yourself and gain experience first. You’ll make mistakes everyone does but starting small ensures those mistakes are less costly, giving you valuable lessons without the high stakes.</div>
 

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