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Wow, what a great post. Dang. This was an epic little battle between friends with @MTF.We are going to have to agree to disagree. If I want to remove a tree from the land I own, that is my business not yours. I believe in property rights.
This is a sliding scale… Where do you draw the line? Your home is ok, but the new homes going in aren’t? Your home was new once and there were trees there.
Who built the road to your swimming lake? Someone might have even built the damn lake. Was that ok?
If you take your point of view to its logical end, it is simply anti-civilization. The convenience and luxuries of modern life are bad and scavenging for berries in the woods and living in a lean-to is good?
Is your home built out of gathered and already dead resources? Do you let bugs live there with you? Would you cut down an “inconvienent” tree that could fall on your home?
Was the Panama Canal a good idea? Was Mining the metal that made the ships that traverse it a good idea? What about farming and agriculture? What about literally anything responsible for our lifestyle differences between today and 500 years ago? How about airplanes and airports? Cars and roads?
If some of this is OK and some isn't, the argument is hypocritical. Someone had to clear some land to make that stuff happen. The economy is a delicate balance. This specialization of labor and advanced civilization is required in order to literally survive. Slowing it, or dialing it back literally makes life harder and less prosperous for everyone. So I own the “life worth living” argument.
Yes.
YES! Blow it up for fun for all I care. I hope he puts it on YouTube.
Ownership does. Although, if he plans to blow it up, it is quite a waste of a nice castle so probably unlikely. He’d buy a piece of land without a castle if he didn’t want a castle.
Lol, no, you couldn’t have.
Me and @MTF ago way back. We agree on a lot, but we don’t agree here. Just like the folks yelling at me over being 100% opposed to government lockdowns in every form or fashion, I stayed consistently liberty oriented.
I value my liberty, my property rights, and my freedoms over a small urban forest.
I do however also, as I said much earlier in this discussion, value nature, clean air, clean water, and a clean overall environment. I just don’t believe that the government is the best vehicle to uphold these values. Considering they are at fault for this very scenario and also the biggest polluters on earth, I’d say I have a very strong argument.
I literally value that commerce, that piece of the city that was developed, in a country I don’t even live in, more than I value the trees in that area. As will hundreds or even thousands of people that move there. They too will probably be hypocritical of new development.
To say that there will be “nothing left” is very hyperbolic, particularly with shrinking global birth rates, we are not even close. Go fly on an airplane and tell me there aren’t enough trees.
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This, to me, is a beautiful sight. To me, it represents progress, wealth and prosperity to everyone in the supply chain and competitive pricing for consumers. Human cooperation on an epic scale. I also see an awful lot of trees there as well for Houston inside of the beltway.
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