Hypnotising yourself to create the character and belief you want! (POWERFUL)

[Kung Fu Steve]

I was going to hop in and add some interesting studies but, holy hell, looks like all you guys woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

 

[piano]

Shit man, reading through this thread is better than watching Netflix

 

[Kak]

 

[Black_Dragon43]

I am about to share a powerful concept I have been using for years to create unshakable confidence and manipulate my Belief system to the core.
After using this you will believe all the things you say to yourself, you will believe that you are the kind of person you want to be within 1 month you should start seeing mental changes.

You are going to combine 2 powerful things:
1. SELF HYPNOSIS
2.AFFIRMATIONS

Self Hypnosis
The first thing you think of when you hear hypnosis is probably a a hypnotist on stage at america's got talent who is hypnotising a random person to behave and believe he is a Chicken.
You probably think it's something woo woo and there is no real science behind it, right?
WRONG!
I will skip explaining to you the science behind hypnosis since it would be a post too long to read.
Hypnosis is a state of relaxation to put it simple.
We are all in a state of hypnosis 100's of times a day.
When we watch a movie, Scroll our phones, listen to music, workout, run, have sex, Meditate, Talk to someone, Cook ect...
You are in a trance daily without even realizing it.

So what's the thing with hypnosis, why am I wriing about it in the first place?

Hypnosis helps you access your subconscious mind quicker and easier!
That means you can reprogram yourself, by yourself with wathever believes you want to install.

Some famous person who was usinf this powerful tool is Mike Tyson.
Mike tyson talked about his Coach Cus D'amato taking him to a hypnotist and programing his mind.
The hypnotist would put Mike into a state of tranfe by relaxing him and after that he would tell him all the things Mike believes today.

HOW TO HYPNOTISE YOURSELF
There are numours ways to hypnotise yourself but I am going to stick with the simplest one: Breathimg.
Same as meditation breath in hold for 4 secounds and then breath out.
Do it 5 times at least, lay down close your eyes and look upwards with your eyes.
Hypnosis is a state of deep relaxation by definition.

So next we are moving to:

AFFIRMATIONS
Same as hypnosis you probably think:
"affirmations, really?"
"Isn't that the woo woo nonsense The secret was talking about?"

Well, almost.
You can research this on your own to make the post shorter and more readable.
Famous people like Dan Pena and many many athletes like Floyd mayweather, Cristiano Ronaldo, Conor Mcgregor... Those are the ones I can think of on top of my head
We are going to focus on practicality here without the spiritual and woo woo part.
You probably saw some gurus and self help coaches talk about this.

They are not wrong, but there is a powerful adjustment you can do to install them deeply into your subconscious and make them 10x more powerful.

The method: Combining Self Hypnosis with Emotions and Affirmations.

So how do we do that?

Okay here is what you need to do:

Grab a pen and paper and write down:
5 Most painfil moments
5 Successful moments
5 Painful Statements
5 moments you felt untouchable

Write them Down.
Then combine them wirh your affirmations.
For examole, instead of:
"I am Great"
You write "I am great, becouse I uses to get hurt so much by XYZ and came back after that big setback and still made it against the odds"
BANG!
Now the affirmation has some Umpf attached to it and it makes it way more powerful!

GIVE YOURSELF SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE MOMENTS!
Now write 20 Affirmations and combine them With the moments mentioned.
After you did that Record it!
Tape record yourself and add some inspirational music to it.
I chose The soundtrack from The Gladiator now we are free.
Recommended music: Braveheart ost, The last of the Mohicans ost.

Now you have your Emotional Affirmations,
put headphones on for a better expirience and if you want to make them more Ingrained into yourself speak them out loud when you can.

SUMMARY:
1. HYPNOTIZE YOURSELF
2. LISTEN TO YOUR RECORDED AFFIRMATIONS
3. DO IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN A DAY.

You don't need to hypnotize yourself at all times, but listen to the affirmationa, when you are in the gym, when you drive your car, when you take a walk ect...
The more you do it the more it will sink into your subconscious mind.

Of course don't just rely on this, it's a tool in your toolbox combine it with ACTION and become an Unstoppable force

Additional recommended books and sources on the topic
Psychocybernetics
The giant within by Tony Robbins
Merissa Peer (Hypnotist)
The placebo is you

Hope this helped some of you guys!

Hypnosis does work, BUT, not like how you think it does. It may be helpful to persuade yourself or others of certain things, but beyond that its use is limited. And like much of psychotherapy, it has the causality BACKWARDS.

Mike Tyson wasn’t confident and crushing opponents in the ring because he visualized himself doing it and practiced affirmations. He would have crushed them just as much without those things. It was the countless hours in the gym and getting punched in the face that made him confident in those situations.

Your programming is the result of your BEHAVIOR - not so much of your thoughts. You’re a coward because you’re behaving like a coward.

But people don’t like accepting this basic truth because then it means that they don’t really have control over their physical environment just through their mind. It means coming to terms with their physical limitations.

Namely, you can’t be courageous in battle if you don’t practice fighting. You can’t be confident with women if you always avoid talking to them. The solutions to all your problems is to change your behaviors. You’re a weak coward, so stop doing what weak cowards do.

F*ck! Stop playing around with your thoughts and hypnotizing yourself and start doing what scares you and makes you shit your pants. That’s all you need to do to start growing.

Because like it or not, your thoughts are 90% CONTROLLED BY YOUR ENVIRONMENT. As are your emotions. And that’s exactly how it should be, because your thoughts and emotions need to help you navigate your environment given your past and current abilities. I know you wish your thoughts could be what you want to be regardless of the fact that you’re broke and can’t even afford to use a public toilet… but unfortunately, that’s not how it works!

To think like a rich man, first you have to become a rich man. Then it’s easy to think like one.

BlackDragon, is that you?

Why not @ tag me dawg?

I can see you’ve been following my content.

I’m looking forward for @Lex DeVille reading and endorsing my psychological studies though :

https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/how-to-achieve-your-goals-without-changing-your-thoughts-or-mindset.106227/

 

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[Lex DeVille]

I am about to share a powerful concept I have been using for years to create unshakable confidence and manipulate my Belief system to the core.
After using this you will believe all the things you say to yourself, you will believe that you are the kind of person you want to be within 1 month you should start seeing mental changes.

You are going to combine 2 powerful things:
1. SELF HYPNOSIS
2.AFFIRMATIONS

Self Hypnosis
The first thing you think of when you hear hypnosis is probably a a hypnotist on stage at america's got talent who is hypnotising a random person to behave and believe he is a Chicken.
You probably think it's something woo woo and there is no real science behind it, right?
WRONG!
I will skip explaining to you the science behind hypnosis since it would be a post too long to read.
Hypnosis is a state of relaxation to put it simple.
We are all in a state of hypnosis 100's of times a day.
When we watch a movie, Scroll our phones, listen to music, workout, run, have sex, Meditate, Talk to someone, Cook ect...
You are in a trance daily without even realizing it.

So what's the thing with hypnosis, why am I wriing about it in the first place?

Hypnosis helps you access your subconscious mind quicker and easier!
That means you can reprogram yourself, by yourself with wathever believes you want to install.

Some famous person who was usinf this powerful tool is Mike Tyson.
Mike tyson talked about his Coach Cus D'amato taking him to a hypnotist and programing his mind.
The hypnotist would put Mike into a state of tranfe by relaxing him and after that he would tell him all the things Mike believes today.

HOW TO HYPNOTISE YOURSELF
There are numours ways to hypnotise yourself but I am going to stick with the simplest one: Breathimg.
Same as meditation breath in hold for 4 secounds and then breath out.
Do it 5 times at least, lay down close your eyes and look upwards with your eyes.
Hypnosis is a state of deep relaxation by definition.

So next we are moving to:

AFFIRMATIONS
Same as hypnosis you probably think:
"affirmations, really?"
"Isn't that the woo woo nonsense The secret was talking about?"

Well, almost.
You can research this on your own to make the post shorter and more readable.
Famous people like Dan Pena and many many athletes like Floyd mayweather, Cristiano Ronaldo, Conor Mcgregor... Those are the ones I can think of on top of my head
We are going to focus on practicality here without the spiritual and woo woo part.
You probably saw some gurus and self help coaches talk about this.

They are not wrong, but there is a powerful adjustment you can do to install them deeply into your subconscious and make them 10x more powerful.

The method: Combining Self Hypnosis with Emotions and Affirmations.

So how do we do that?

Okay here is what you need to do:

Grab a pen and paper and write down:
5 Most painfil moments
5 Successful moments
5 Painful Statements
5 moments you felt untouchable

Write them Down.
Then combine them wirh your affirmations.
For examole, instead of:
"I am Great"
You write "I am great, becouse I uses to get hurt so much by XYZ and came back after that big setback and still made it against the odds"
BANG!
Now the affirmation has some Umpf attached to it and it makes it way more powerful!

GIVE YOURSELF SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE MOMENTS!
Now write 20 Affirmations and combine them With the moments mentioned.
After you did that Record it!
Tape record yourself and add some inspirational music to it.
I chose The soundtrack from The Gladiator now we are free.
Recommended music: Braveheart ost, The last of the Mohicans ost.

Now you have your Emotional Affirmations,
put headphones on for a better expirience and if you want to make them more Ingrained into yourself speak them out loud when you can.

SUMMARY:
1. HYPNOTIZE YOURSELF
2. LISTEN TO YOUR RECORDED AFFIRMATIONS
3. DO IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN A DAY.

You don't need to hypnotize yourself at all times, but listen to the affirmationa, when you are in the gym, when you drive your car, when you take a walk ect...
The more you do it the more it will sink into your subconscious mind.

Of course don't just rely on this, it's a tool in your toolbox combine it with ACTION and become an Unstoppable force

Additional recommended books and sources on the topic
Psychocybernetics
The giant within by Tony Robbins
Merissa Peer (Hypnotist)
The placebo is you

Hope this helped some of you guys!

I notice you did not start this post by sharing even a single way this has brought you tangible success.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Thanks for noticing.

It made me feel enough for women, changed the way I carry myself.
Gather courage to start kickboxing and going into amateur fights.
Controlling my emotions and my fears.
Beeing comfortable ind high stressed situations.
But The biggest change is the way I see myself.
It's a great fuel for action and when you start stacking Expiriences and proving it by action it changes your Character absolutely.

So the post was not about making money or some Guru mindset bs.
It's not a magic pill, as I said it is a Tool.
It definetly contributed for me staring kickboxing and having amateur fights, starting a Business and making 11k a month at 23 years of age.
Having a lot of succes wirh women and improving my dating life.
It's character change, and that influences all the other areas in your life.
How you see yourself is everything.

If you say so. Personally, I think self-hypnosis and affirmations are horse shit and the only thing that matters is the choices you make and whether or not you have the balls to act on them. Doesn't matter who you trick yourself into believing you are.

 

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[Miha99]

I am about to share a powerful concept I have been using for years to create unshakable confidence and manipulate my Belief system to the core.
After using this you will believe all the things you say to yourself, you will believe that you are the kind of person you want to be within 1 month you should start seeing mental changes.

You are going to combine 2 powerful things:
1. SELF HYPNOSIS
2.AFFIRMATIONS

Self Hypnosis
The first thing you think of when you hear hypnosis is probably a a hypnotist on stage at america's got talent who is hypnotising a random person to behave and believe he is a Chicken.
You probably think it's something woo woo and there is no real science behind it, right?
WRONG!
I will skip explaining to you the science behind hypnosis since it would be a post too long to read.
Hypnosis is a state of relaxation to put it simple.
We are all in a state of hypnosis 100's of times a day.
When we watch a movie, Scroll our phones, listen to music, workout, run, have sex, Meditate, Talk to someone, Cook ect...
You are in a trance daily without even realizing it.

So what's the thing with hypnosis, why am I wriing about it in the first place?

Hypnosis helps you access your subconscious mind quicker and easier!
That means you can reprogram yourself, by yourself with wathever believes you want to install.

Some famous person who was usinf this powerful tool is Mike Tyson.
Mike tyson talked about his Coach Cus D'amato taking him to a hypnotist and programing his mind.
The hypnotist would put Mike into a state of tranfe by relaxing him and after that he would tell him all the things Mike believes today.

HOW TO HYPNOTISE YOURSELF
There are numours ways to hypnotise yourself but I am going to stick with the simplest one: Breathimg.
Same as meditation breath in hold for 4 secounds and then breath out.
Do it 5 times at least, lay down close your eyes and look upwards with your eyes.
Hypnosis is a state of deep relaxation by definition.

So next we are moving to:

AFFIRMATIONS
Same as hypnosis you probably think:
"affirmations, really?"
"Isn't that the woo woo nonsense The secret was talking about?"

Well, almost.
You can research this on your own to make the post shorter and more readable.
Famous people like Dan Pena and many many athletes like Floyd mayweather, Cristiano Ronaldo, Conor Mcgregor... Those are the ones I can think of on top of my head
We are going to focus on practicality here without the spiritual and woo woo part.
You probably saw some gurus and self help coaches talk about this.

They are not wrong, but there is a powerful adjustment you can do to install them deeply into your subconscious and make them 10x more powerful.

The method: Combining Self Hypnosis with Emotions and Affirmations.

So how do we do that?

Okay here is what you need to do:

Grab a pen and paper and write down:
5 Most painfil moments
5 Successful moments
5 Painful Statements
5 moments you felt untouchable

Write them Down.
Then combine them wirh your affirmations.
For examole, instead of:
"I am Great"
You write "I am great, becouse I uses to get hurt so much by XYZ and came back after that big setback and still made it against the odds"
BANG!
Now the affirmation has some Umpf attached to it and it makes it way more powerful!

GIVE YOURSELF SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE MOMENTS!
Now write 20 Affirmations and combine them With the moments mentioned.
After you did that Record it!
Tape record yourself and add some inspirational music to it.
I chose The soundtrack from The Gladiator now we are free.
Recommended music: Braveheart ost, The last of the Mohicans ost.

Now you have your Emotional Affirmations,
put headphones on for a better expirience and if you want to make them more Ingrained into yourself speak them out loud when you can.

SUMMARY:
1. HYPNOTIZE YOURSELF
2. LISTEN TO YOUR RECORDED AFFIRMATIONS
3. DO IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN A DAY.

You don't need to hypnotize yourself at all times, but listen to the affirmationa, when you are in the gym, when you drive your car, when you take a walk ect...
The more you do it the more it will sink into your subconscious mind.

Of course don't just rely on this, it's a tool in your toolbox combine it with ACTION and become an Unstoppable force

Additional recommended books and sources on the topic
Psychocybernetics
The giant within by Tony Robbins
Merissa Peer (Hypnotist)
The placebo is you

Hope this helped some of you guys!

 

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[Lex DeVille]

A couple of things should be considered by all:

• Every guru that comes to this forum claims they aren't a guru.
  
  
• Relaxation is not hypnosis. It is not even required for hypnosis.
  
  
• Affirmations and visualizations are not the same.
  
  
• Mike Tyson working with a professional hypnotist with decades of experience is not the same as "self-hypnosis."
  
  
• This was not a discussion from the start. It was one person making proclamations using vague language, name-dropping celebrities, claiming "science" without support, and throwing every red flag of every guru ever then back peddling when someone called it out.
  
  
• Nobody was arguing until OP started name-calling and getting defensive despite his supposed emotional control and confidence gained from his affirmations and "self-hypnosis" which are actually just breathing exercises.
  
  
• Maybe he's just 23 and doesn't know better. In my experience, 23-year-olds who read about hypnosis and brag about their "success" with women aren't stupid. They're just getting started in the con game and they haven't refined their messaging and approach yet.

Is OP a guru? Is he a con artist in the making? I have no idea. I only know that when it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's usually a duck.

Here's a thinking question...

Most people who've built six-figure ecom businesses have a solid grasp on value creation. So why come to this forum and drop this shallow excuse for "value" when you're sitting on a gold mine? Something doesn't add up.

 

[Miha99]

You mean ONE of the many other activities Lex is involved in?

I can’t say I’m friends with Lex (never spoke with him 1 on 1), but I’ve seen him for years on the forum and his breadth of interests and achievements is hard to rival. There are several people here who are more successful than Lex in one domain, but I don’t know any with such a vast domain expertise…

Lex is a copywriter
Lex was in the adult biz
Lex created and marketed several different products in different fields
Lex teaches people how to become freelancers
Lex is building an authority site
Lex is a trained psychologist
Lex produces music

And I could go on. Most people struggle to have even ONE of those achievements under their belt!

Actually you know what I will take that back, it was a bit disrespectful. I don't really care what lex does and that's not the point, I'm sure he is a smart guy.

Thanks for all your guys opinions, I will think about what you said, and who knows maybe I am wrong.

Let's get back to the original topic, This thing helped me going though many hardship in my. Life not just financial, but In Atheltic achievments and struggles in life.

The self talk is the most Important thing about it,
For anyone who knows the book Can't hurt me, there is a Segment goggins calles the Cookie Jar, I'm sure there are short clips on youtube where he talks about it.

So man it worked for me that's the point, maybe it did'nt work for some of you guys.
I agree if you are going to do this and sit on your a$$ without taking action and getting after it, it's useless...

I never said it's a replacement for Action.
Great self talk can never hurt you, and If you say something to yourself over a lomg period of time it gets real and you will believe it, of course if you combine it wirh Action taking.

In the world of sports and competitoon this is very important.
If somebody can benefit from it cool, if someone thinks it's bs cool.

Im completely comfortable with thinking I am wrong and I am open to someone changing my perspective, and I don't see how anyone here is on the same page.

So Blackdragon, You're probably a Succesful guy who has his shit together, judging by the way you talk, but you should be maybe more open to things and beeing more humble to think that maybe you can be wrong.

It's a Diasscusion guys and we all should be open minded to think we can be wrong and there is no shame in that.

Lex sorry If I came of as attacking it was not my Intention, but your first few replies came of as a bit disrespectful.

But as the one guy said, maybe it's becouse I just joined this forum and havs no contribution that people automaticly assume you are a broke student who has no real life expirience and is jist circle mentaly masturbating with feel good positivity shit.
But no Im not, I ran a Succesful Business I am making good money, I have my shit in order and I'm not action faking with this.

 

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[Miha99]

You're right, I know nothing of psychology, hypnosis, or gurus. Who am I to question "the greats"?

Man There's no need to be a diva
Do you actually know anything about it or you just think it's bullshit?
I'm not attacking you I'm just stating my arguments.
This is a discussion and not a contest who is right and who wrong.
You should actually want to add something to change my mind instead of cheap sarcasm and saying my post is BS without stating what specificaly you don't agree with.

 

[James Klymus]

More feel good, Action faking nonsense.

I used to believe in things like this in my late teens-early twenties. I thought the solution to my problems was to affirm and think my way to success.

All this shows is a lack of confidence and major insecurity about your self. I know, Because I've been there.

The fundamental problem with this method is at the end of the day you're STILL living in your head. You can't think your way out of your issues.

The ONLY solution I've found to the problem of insecurity and lack of confidence, Is to actually get out there and accomplish things in the real world. You have to prove to yourself you can do it in the real world.

The problem when you do this is, Your brain KNOWS you're still a fundamentally insecure person who lacks confidence, Because you lack experience.

Save your self years of your life (That I wasted doing this) and get out there and do something with your self, Instead of sitting at your desk trying to meditate your way out of your problems.

 

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[Black_Dragon43]

@Miha99 here's an interesting video about Goggins...

Watch from 1:06:00 until 1:13:40

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQhKFMxmDY


Listen to what Dr. Andrew Huberman says... "He [David Goggins] uses BEHAVIOR as the way to shift sensation, perception, feeling and thoughts [...] When most people don't like what they feel they start negotiating sensation, they start trying to control their perception, feelings, Lord knows what those are and how to control them, thoughts are complicated, so he just goes immediately to ACTION [...] This is the Holy Grail of neuroscience, how can I modify my brain?, you do it by placing yourself in discomfort and using that to move you to ACTION [...] Starting with behavior [...] the way to control our nervous system is to change our behavior first, but usually people start the other way around with thoughts, emotions, etc. and it doesn't work so well"

I'm paraphrasing cause obviously it takes time to put it down word for word, but that's the gist.

Most of the emphasis on the mind and your thoughts comes from the cognitive revolution in the 70s - I think that's still holding us back. Thoughts simply don't have the power that people often attribute to them when it comes to shifting action. A direct focus on the actions you need to take is always faster.

I am open minded, I've read the two books you mentioned (Psychocybernetics, and Awaken the Giant Within) and many many others about psychology, hypnosis and the human mind. I am an NLP practitioner as well, which is basically covert hypnosis. It's not that I don't know what I'm talking about, it's actual experience trying those things and attempting to figure out if they work or not - that's where my insights are coming from.

If the "cognitive" method (which includes, to a certain extent, hypnosis) was as powerful as practitioners say it is, then why is it that only 40% of patients suffering from depression who undertake CBT improve by the end of it, and we know that around 25% would have improved naturally without any treatment whatsoever?

And the stats are similar for other general conditions such as anxiety, and a lot worse for more serious conditions such as OCD (of which I have suffered and I'm intimately familiar with).

 

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[Kak]

I don't know shit about copywriting and I don't think it's "the best start". I mean, why should I be limited to copywriting? There are so many other ways to make money online & in the real world.

How did people like Sam Walton survive?

I’m sure Sam Walton hypnotized himself so he could copywrite his way to a major retail chain.

I think Bezos got his start in copywriting too.

 

[heavy_industry]

Can we ever have a thread without this ridiculous suggestion?

2023 Millionaire Starter Kit:

• law of attraction / affirmations
• copywriting
• day trading "INVESTING"
• asks GPT for business ideas

 

[Uber-Ubermensch]

If you say so. Personally, I think self-hypnosis and affirmations are horse shit and the only thing that matters is the choices you make and whether or not you have the balls to act on them. Doesn't matter who you trick yourself into believing you are.

BlackDragon, is that you?

 

[Lex DeVille]

Man There's no need to be a diva

For someone who controls their emotions so well, you're pretty quick to resort to name-calling.

Do you actually no anything about it oe you just think it's bullshit?

I could list all of my degrees in psychology, certifications and decades of practice in hypnosis and NLP, and history working with the world's top gurus...but that would make this post way too long, so you can do your own research on that. Wasn't that what you suggested of us?

I'm not attacking you I'm just stating my arguments.

You literally attacked me and didn't state any argument... In fact, from your initial post, you basically asked us to just take your word for it without any evidence, without even sharing a personal success story.

You should actually want to add something to change my mind instead of cheap sarcasm and saying my post is BS without stating what specificaly you don't agree with.

What I "should" do and what I do are two very different things. I don't want to change your mind. I just don't want other young entrepreneurs falling for this horseshit and never getting anywhere.

By the way, I didn't say your post was BS. I said I think self-hypnosis and affirmations are horseshit.

 

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[RicardoGrande]

I wish self hypnosis or other techniques actually worked. They could save a lot of people a lot of pain.

Have had ADHD my whole life and had a frame that I was lazy because I "had" to be. Going through the tony robbins personal power tapes, I was introduced to a few concepts that helped me have more agency. I realized that I had to not only want something, but understand why I wanted it and how I was suffering in the present by not facing my fears and the pleasure I could have in the future with sacrifice or choice in the present. Only after working specifically on my problems for years was I able to learn how to START on things and keep up and work through them.

And tbh, despite the pain and lost opportunities, it's been a hell of a lot more rewarding finding the actual control panel and being able to choose the things I face and what I learn and accomplish.

I wish you the best in efforts and who knows, maybe you'll be able to find the ingredient for self-hypnosis others have missed.

 

[Fox]

My first ever post on the forum was something along these same lines...

HOT! - MINDSET - How I brainwashed myself for success

“We become what we repeatedly do.” The last few months I have taken some big steps towards changing my prospective and mindset when it comes to business and life. Some of these might sound drastic but I wanted drastic results and those require steps normal people don't want to take. Here is a...

www.thefastlaneforum.com

What I learned later was - it does't really count for anything.

And it is very easy to get off track with this and waste a lot of time.

What really matters is getting started, working your a$$ off on building some skills, and putting them to use where you can solve someones problems and start to get paid.

But... maybe you feel you need this to get going.
There is a lot of negative programming out there and it can be good to mentally wash some of that away.

Just keep in mind (as this thread has let you know) that a lifetime of this type of stuff won't make you a single dollar.
It is only when you actually do something with it where any results come into play.

So do like a few minutes a day if you need to and then the other 99% of your time is getting things done.

 

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[Kak]

I think studying copywriting and starting cold outreach to provide copy services is the best start for anyone.

Can we ever have a thread without this ridiculous suggestion?

 

[Guyfieri5]

I’m sure Sam Walton hypnotized himself so he could copywrite his way to a major retail chain.

I think Bezos got his start in copywriting too.

I heard Elon Musk actually ended his involvement in Space X, Tesla, and Twitter to focus more on his copywriting side business as well.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Do what works for you...

Meditation, hypnosis, cold ice baths, celery juice, praying to Buddha, drinking urine while hanging upside down on a trapeze -- don't let anyone dissuade you from taking whatever actions that work for you.

 

[Black_Dragon43]

Bruv you make Youtube videos for upwork

You mean ONE of the many other activities Lex is involved in?

I can’t say I’m friends with Lex (never spoke with him 1 on 1), but I’ve seen him for years on the forum and his breadth of interests and achievements is hard to rival. There are several people here who are more successful than Lex in one domain, but I don’t know any with such a vast domain expertise…

Lex is a copywriter
Lex was in the adult biz
Lex created and marketed several different products in different fields
Lex teaches people how to become freelancers
Lex is building an authority site
Lex is a trained psychologist
Lex produces music

And I could go on. Most people struggle to have even ONE of those achievements under their belt!

 

[Lex DeVille]

If we are going tk quote tate, then we should stay on topic you are talking about Depression that has nothing to do with what I was saying, here you have Tate talking about what I was saying

View: https://youtu.be/cIIK07vgnJ4

View: https://youtu.be/nhPFDZNnJg8

So Just if somebody like him believes in hypnosis and fhe power of it, that's enough for me.

Thanks for your input anyways man.
Theres no point arguing about it anymore.

This thread is a discussion (your words) until the points you're making get challenged, then it's an argument not worth engaging in, yet you keep responding.

I don't take issue with working on mindset. Clearly you see action as important. My issue is with the inconsistencies and easiy falsifiable claims that come from taking shortcuts.

That's not an attack on you. It's just an observation about behaviors that are out of alignment with the points made in the original posts.

Belief is enough for you. It's not enough for rational minds. Note that you said belief in *him* is enough. It's not even trusting the science. It's just taking the word of a con artist at face value, and since there's a good chance you're part of Hustle University, I'm willing to say that the con worked. Andrew Tate and/or other gurus have been enjoying your cash while selling you shortcuts.

This is the trap I try to help people see through. I come across as an a**hole because it's one of the fastest ways to draw out the truth.

 

[dru-man]

The nervous system has full control over your body.
It can increase or decrease heartrate, release any hormone or enzyme at any time, change your core temperature, blood pressure etc.

The placebo effect is basic physiology, not something supernatural.
It's your limited ability to control the autonomic part of your nervous system as well as genetic expression.

I didn't say there was anything supernatural about it. I'm just saying the power of the mind is very well documented.

You don't think the ability of your mind to control your nervous system has implications for the other areas of your life? You don't think confidence and other personality traits or aspects of your identity are connected to how you FEEL?

If you read up on how REBT works, for instance, it's very clear that your feelings are generated by the thoughts you create in your mind. Self-hypnosis and affirmation is essentially just a technique for doing just that. And if you can use your thoughts to create your feelings, you should theoretically be able to manipulate your feelings to create results in various areas of your life.

REBT is one of the most researched and proven forms of therapy, and it's particularly powerful for performance in sports. As well as mental health (are confidence and self identity not just aspects of mental health?). The core premise of REBT is basically decide what you want to feel and then structure your thought processes in such a way that you create those feelings.

I really don't see how self-hypnosis shouldn't create the same effects. So why not at least consider it (as opposed to just dismissing and attempting to ridicule it as a worthy topic of discussion)? But again, we don't have to guess about it -- plenty of research has already been done. We can argue about it all day, but it really doesn't take long to dig around and eyeball the research for yourself.

There seems to be a big straw-man in this thread that people who believe in self-hypnosis don't believe in action. I don't think anyone has said that at all. I just find it strange how some people scoff so hard at these ideas without considering that there are actually some practical applications (yes, if you're also willing to actually take action towards your desires).

It doesn't mean you make these ideas your religion.

The placebo effect is real but mostly applies to how you FEEL about things. It also decreases over time.

Let’s say someone is in pain. You give them a sugar pill and tell them it will cure their pain. You’ll see the biggest decrease in pain the first time you give it to them… and it will get smaller and disappear over time.

That’s why it’s a placebo — it’s not lasting or real. It doesn’t fix problems, it only masks symptoms.

If you have a broken leg, no amount of placebo will heal your leg. It’s broken. So it doesn’t actually change physical reality.

Here's another one for you: Using hypnosis to accelerate the healing of bone fractures: a randomized controlled pilot study - PubMed

"Conclusion: Despite a small sample size and limited statistical power, these data suggest that hypnosis may be capable of enhancing both anatomical and functional fracture healing, and that further investigation of hypnosis to accelerate healing is warranted."

Skepticism can be healthy, but just like over-reliance on changing your thoughts without changing your actions, it can also go too far. Why be so cynical and authoritative about something when you can just do some very basic research and see what is actually being discovered?

In addition there are some known components of the placebo that have nothing to do with the mind:
• Baseline Regression — your body has a bias towards health. Therefore it has a tendency to revert back to health over time. For example, say you are depressed. Did your treatment cure you, or just the passage of time?
• Confirmation Bias — when you take a treatment you naturally look for evidence of getting better, which tends to shut down your perception of evidence to the contrary.

This is a rich statement because the skeptics of self-hypnosis seem to be the ones most committed to ignoring the existing evidence. These things are being studied already -- we don't have to guess about it and pretend we know what we're talking about.

These two factors add up to much of what’s known as the placebo effect. More than 50%. Here’s an article for you: The weird power of the placebo effect, explained

I don’t believe much in the power of the mind except in-so-far as it affects your actions. But there likely is no metaphysical power of the mind. Just a boring, mechanical power to get you to change your actions.

I didn't say anything about metaphysical causes. This is a straw-man argument.

You can acknowledge and implement an observed phenomenon without taking a concrete stance on why it exists.

You've only got so much time on Earth, and science moves extremely slowly, so dismissing practical techniques just because you don't know exactly why they exist, or because of a scarcity of research proving their efficacy without a doubt, just seems shortsighted to me.

If action is the most powerful way to change your life, and a technique exists that can "get you to change your actions," as you say, why would you care that it's based on a "boring mechanical power?"

NLP and hypnosis for example aren’t metaphysical - they are boring and extremely physical. Changing how you feel and act for the most part. There is no “law of attraction” BS going on.

Again, I didn't say anything about the law of attraction. Straw-man.

And if they work, who cares if they are boring and physical? If they work, why not just use them?

Why attack a technique just because it's boring and physical? I really just don't understand why people get so riled up about this stuff.

If you can change the way you feel and act, of course there would be big, potentially life-changing implications for that.

I’ve seen countless people, for example, be extremely confident about what they do. I’ve had a guy who never got results for clients with Facebook ads (he just learned them) tell me they can get AWESOME results for clients, but they just don’t have any atm. Wtf?

How can you be so confident you can get results for clients if you never did it before?! This is ridiculous. Would you be confident about riding a bicycle if you’ve never done it before?

The world is full of confident idiots, who are convinced they can, but who actually can’t when the rubber hits the road. I prefer to be skeptical and tend to always doubt myself and my ability. It’s what keeps me sharp and gets me to outperform those who are confident.

I agree with you. That's a dangerous line to walk.

I'd put more money on a guy eventually having success in life if he can conjure an inner sense of confidence, but of course it doesn't completely replace the value of skills and experience.

Just because something is important and useful doesn't mean it can't be taken too far.

Not arguing against that the mind is powerful but rather how it is being used to gain maximum power.

It should be used to generate immediate actions or it becomes useless or marginally useful.

It must be action and immediate.

I agree that thoughts and action should be used together.

I disagree that thoughts alone are useless, though.

Another example:

"In 2004, a team of scientists at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation in Ohio explored the benefits of a strength program by simply imagining, or visualising, exercising a muscle. They titled their breakthrough study “From mental power to muscle power–gaining strength by using the mind.” The group of 30 young and healthy volunteers was split into three subsets. Two groups were instructed on how to make the directed imaginary movement, finger and bicep movement, as real as possible inside their heads. The third group was a control group. When the researchers measured muscle strength before, during and after the ‘imagined’ training sessions, they saw a positive increased strength in both groups of imaginary movement! In fact, their finger strength increased by 35% and the bicep strength by 13.5%. Huge numbers strength-wise!

Source: © The Health Sciences Academy ®. All Rights Reserved.

Read more: Home – The Health Sciences Academy - The Health Sciences Academy"

I've seen similar studies in the past.

Of course taking action AND using the power of your mind together would be the best way to go. Nobody in their right mind would argue with that, in my opinion.

But both actual action AND mind power have observed effects by themselves, so it seems downright unscientific to deny that.

We could go on all day about why these things work. I'd rather just brainstorm ways to attempt putting them to use.

 

[Roli]

I've read a lot of the replies in this thread and I can't work out why the OP is being attacked so much. What's wrong with self hypnosis?

Literally all they said was, try self hypnosis, do some self affirmations and get out there and kick a$$. What's wrong with that?

MJ talks about gratitude and religion in his book, I'm not religious but don't feel to make fun of him for it.

I think we've been a bit harsh on the OP, let's just chill out a bit man.

 

[Miha99]

I notice you did not start this post by sharing even a single way in which this has brought you tangible success.

Thanks for noticing.

It made me feel enough for women, changed the way I carry myself.
Gather courage to start kickboxing and going into amateur fights.
Controlling my emotions and my fears.
Beeing comfortable ind high stressed situations.
But The biggest change is the way I see myself.
It's a great fuel for action and when you start stacking Expiriences and proving it by action it changes your Character absolutely.

So the post was not about making money or some Guru mindset bs.
It's not a magic pill, as I said it is a Tool.
It definetly contributed for me staring kickboxing and having amateur fights, starting a Business and making 11k a month at 23 years of age.
Having a lot of succes wirh women and improving my dating life.
It's character change, and that influences all the other areas in your life.
How you see yourself is everything.

 

[BAUCE]

Haha Yes I also don't get why everybody seems so attacked by it.
I mean obviously you can Definetly make money without using any of the things I mentioned.
But this is clearly posted in the catogory MINDSET and not financial advice.
If there are any Fighters who compete like me, you would know how Important self talk and affirmations are. But I guess not a lot of you are familiar with that world so I get the reaction.

I think it's the fact that you're a fairly new user, small post history, no avatar that makes people more comfortable attacking your post. I understand you're probably just wanting to provide value to forum but I can see why it might rub some people the wrong way.

I think affirmations + meditations are very helpful for a lot of people. This is a forum of a lot of successful people and Im positive that a lot of them dont do any of what you're suggesting so its obviously not needed or wanted from them. Even though you aren't a guru, aren't asking for money or to sign up for some sleazy course people might feel a similar way to how you've presented this.

Anyone responding to you saying that you are flat out wrong and that their solution is the correct way are more at fault than you imo. People need to experiment what works for them. There are no one size fits all solutions to becoming successful.

 

[The Questioner]

I was going to hop in and add some interesting studies but, holy hell, looks like all you guys woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

I'd like to see those studies.

 

[Hadrian9]

Not trying to irritate anyone, just pointing out that all the successful people who have brought endless information to this forum are the ones bashing hypnotizing.

You either feel confident/ good and empowering,
Or feel paranoid/hypercompetative and being hardcore on yourself.

These two schools of thought do not go together.

However, when it comes specifically to social skills / charisma / personality, I think visualizing a specific personality and connection with others is helpful. Having a competitive mindset when trying to make friends and get girls can you make you come off very weird and needy.

There’s some magic in self identity though. Quit a 6 year porn addiction, a 2 year binge eating addiction, and a 3 year hardcore video game addiction. Each one I had struggled long before quitting trying all the different tactics, and one day I quit each of them overnight a few months ago.

Did it by simply acting as if I didn’t have the addiction. Took up skateboarding, because a hardcore gamer wouldn’t risk injury like that. Stopped counting calories strictly, because that’s what someone who binge eats would do. Stopped obsessing over nofap streaks, because that’s what porn addicts.

The problem with affirmations is that deep down you know you are not confident or strong or yadada. Ofc if it works for you more power to you, but highly recommend for people specifically trying to improve their personality to visualize themselves how they want to be in someone else’s perspective. Visualizing is a great way to help give a little shove to yourself to do the actions, but without the actions it means nothing.

 

[Black_Dragon43]

About the Depression, If you would not believe in Depression you would not have it, so again that is also a belief they have. And also Andrew Tate talked about Depression in detail and that it just exists mostly in the west.
am from the balkans we have no such thing here and people are not doing to therapy, Im not a fan of modern therapists.

Listen to what Andrew Tate actually has to say about depression:

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dYSnyV5KRNo


" 'I'm depressed and I can't go to the gym' - NO, I disagree, you're depressed BECAUSE you don't go to the gym"

Andrew has the causality right. It's not that you're broke, don't have a girlfriend, fat, ugly, BECAUSE you're depressed. No, you're depressed BECAUSE you're broke, don't have a girlfriend, big fat ugly belly and so on.

And I agree 100% with him on that. You can't be a fat, broke, ugly loser who can't tie your shoes and be truly happy. Regardless of how much you play around with your thoughts or hypnotize yourself.

To see your depression lift, first you have to start taking action and changing the conditions that make you depressed. This is the exact opposite of what you're told by most therapists and society at large.

So it's precisely the fact that you're worried about your thoughts and feelings, ie "I'm depressed" that stops you from doing the things that would cure your depression (going to the gym). "Why don't you go to the gym? Because I'm depressed!"

So what's the most effective way to get out of that? You're saying you should change your thoughts first, stop telling yourself that you're depressed. I'm saying forget about your thoughts, and just focus on the actions. Let your mind tell you whatever, that "you're depressed" bla bla, but go to the gym. You'll change your thoughts, but the negative thoughts and depression will keep coming back until your environment changes anyways.

If you don't belive self talk is powerful than go to the mirror every morning and tell yourself you are a worthless piece of shit and you are a failure and a loser for a year.

Haha, I would, except that I see that as an equal waste of time as the opposite. I'd rather not say anything in the mirror. That's something I have to remember to do every morning, I'd rather that my focus is on the actions that will move me ahead when I wake up, not on doing some ritual.

Some of my thoughts are negative. Some of my thoughts are positive. Both don't mean much, they're just mental reactions to my environment and situations I find myself in. I get my drive from both negative and positive thoughts. I don't need positive thoughts to go to the gym. I can use even negative ones as fuel. Thinking that I'm a loser is a BIG MOTIVATION to stop being a loser. I wouldn't want to stop my brain from telling me I'm a loser when I really am one. That message is helpful. So F*ck the hypnosis - I want to be told I'm a loser so I can have the drive to change that!

My issue here is mainly that almost ALL the guys you're citing function in the exact opposite way from what you claim. David Goggins is a behavior first guy. Tate is a behavior first guy. Mike Tyson was an extremely negative guy when he was young. Would lose his temper in an instant, and was often angry, raging, upset and sad. In fact, Mike was shitting his pants before a fight! All these people have MASTERED their negative emotions... NOT eradicated them. But channeled them into being more productive and successful. They haven't hypnotised themselves not to feel angry, sad, afraid, depressed, or whatever. Rather they USE whatever feelings they experience to their advantage, including negative ones.