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Elon Musk tells Disney to "go f*ck themselves"

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For those missing the forest through the trees...

Here's your nutshell.

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I’m trying to guess what Elon is thinking…

You are overthinking what he's thinking.

You're trying to tell me HOW to run my company because you don't like some of my opinions?

Go F*ck yourself.

No one is going to blackmail him over his values and principles, and what he wants X to stand for, even if it is a bullhorn for the most vile statements.

In other words, he told you what he is thinking.

See below... mental gymnastics, not needed.

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Genius move! His head of advertising announced last week they were losing as much as $750,000,000 a week and he tells the main source of his company's income to go F*ck themselves.

Peak entertainment.

It is $75 million (not $750m) and it is "by the end of the year" - not each week.

Plus it is maybe.

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Also, pretty clear Elon's move here is an app that actually has free speech.

I don't think he is sweating 75 million in Disney woke dollars.

This is a long term play.

First - become the app people trust the most.
Later - monitize it well.
 
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Elon has shown uncanny ability to do well in business. This move and the way he handled himself is entertaining but I’d love to understand how it plays out for him in business for X.

What’s the angle?

Charge more for being on X to each individual user?

Find other advertisers by providing free speech platform?

I’m trying to guess what Elon is thinking…

I think he makes enough elsewhere to just run this with a "freedom of speech" first mindset.

It is the same concept as what others have done but for total different reasons...

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Why would Jeff Bezos run a newspaper at a loss - a chance to control what gets said.

Why would Elon run Twitter at a loss - a chance to allow things that should be said to get said.

These guys don't need the money, it is a bigger goal first.
 

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Man what a boss.

"What I care about is the reality of goodness, not the perception of it. What I see all over the place is people who care about looking good while doing evil. F*ck them."
 
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do you believe Elon's claim to have done more for the planet than anyone? Alternate question

Not sure, I haven't researched an answer as the answer is not relevant to my life.

do you really think electric cars are saving the planet?

Not sure, I haven't researched an answer as the answer is not relevant to my life.
 

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Lol Disney. Every single movie they release is fighting for a top 10 record...

...top 10 box office bomb record that is. It's hilarious to watch. Their latest cartoon came out and they can't even get families to watch it. And yet some terrible video game movie about murderous animatronic robots comes out that is rated R and stomps all over the box office. It's absolutely awesome.
 

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Genius move! His head of advertising announced last week they were losing as much as $750,000,000 a week and he tells the main source of his company's income to go F*ck themselves.

Peak entertainment.
Source? Hard to believe that number. That’s $3 billion a month.
 

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Lol Disney. Every single movie they release is fighting for a top 10 record...

...top 10 box office bomb record that is. It's hilarious to watch. Their latest cartoon came out and they can't even get families to watch it. And yet some terrible video game movie about murderous animatronic robots comes out that is rated R and stomps all over the box office. It's absolutely awesome.
I saw something that said their last 13 movies have lost money
 

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I saw something that said their last 13 movies have lost money

It's their last eight and it's around $900,000,000 they've lost. However their company profits grew by 4% per quarter.

So that tells me that Disney movies are just very expensive ads for their toys and other crap they sell.
 

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I have connected and chatted with all kinds of people for business growth on LinkedIn. Hell, what I am doing now only happened from finding and chatting with someone on LinkedIn. I'm probably going to get a cheque in February equal to more than I made working entire years during my youth and early 20s. I love LinkedIn. Where else can I literally get into direct messaging with C level executives at companies?

*Oh, and in the spirit of the thread. Hey Disney, go get f**ked!!!!!
 

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Questions for the forum...

Referencing the video Fox shared, do you believe Elon's claim to have done more for the planet than anyone? Alternate question, do you really think electric cars are saving the planet?
TLDR: No, Elon didn't do more for the planet than anybody else. And electric cars probably won't save the planet.

Longer version:
The claim that he has done more for the planet than anyone else is ridicules. First, it cannot be proven. Secondly, even if you assume he is talking about CO2 reduction, the claim is not true. All his ventures cause huge amounts of CO2. The worst is probably SpaceX.

In addition, he uses diversionary maneuvers such as the Hyperloop or the Las Vegas Loop to prevent or at least delay an improvement in local public transport (a real reduction in CO2 emissions).
By the way, Elon often makes ridiculous claims (FSE in 2018, knowing more than anybody about manufacturing, etc.).

In general, electric cars alone will not save the planet. As long as all other electrical devices are not powered 100 percent by clean electricity, all e-cars will run on fossil fuels. Unfortunately, this is entirely ignored in studies and in the discussion about e-cars. Even though an electric car is charged by a solar cell, it takes clean electricity away from other electrical devices.

The disadvantages for the environment due to the need for lithium are also serious for the environment. I doubt that there is a simple idea that will magically reduce our CO2 consumption.
 
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Interviewer: "They're going to boycott Disney!?"

Elon: "They already are..." :rofl:

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What I like about Elon is his irreverence to the status quo. They expect him to do X but he does Y. I actually enjoy the media reactions more than hearing about what Tesla and SpaceX are up to, although those have my respect of course. They can't put that man in a box.
 

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TLDR: No, Elon didn't do more for the planet than anybody else. And electric cars probably won't save the planet.

Longer version:
The claim that he has done more for the planet than anyone else is ridicules. First, it cannot be proven. Secondly, even if you assume he is talking about CO2 reduction, the claim is not true. All his ventures cause huge amounts of CO2. The worst is probably SpaceX.

In addition, he uses diversionary maneuvers such as the Hyperloop or the Las Vegas Loop to prevent or at least delay an improvement in local public transport (a real reduction in CO2 emissions).
By the way, Elon often makes ridiculous claims (FSE in 2018, knowing more than anybody about manufacturing, etc.).

In general, electric cars alone will not save the planet. As long as all other electrical devices are not powered 100 percent by clean electricity, all e-cars will run on fossil fuels. Unfortunately, this is entirely ignored in studies and in the discussion about e-cars. Even though an electric car is charged by a solar cell, it takes clean electricity away from other electrical devices.

The disadvantages for the environment due to the need for lithium are also serious for the environment. I doubt that there is a simple idea that will magically reduce our CO2 consumption.
Basically:
We need nuclear-fueled (hopefully fusion someday) hydrogen cell/electric hybrid cars instead.
 

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Referencing the video Fox shared, do you believe Elon's claim to have done more for the planet than anyone? Alternate question, do you really think electric cars are saving the planet?
No, not really. That's just delusional marketing fluff. Electric cars are still polluting the planet, especially when you consider the natural resources and pollution involved in battery manufacturing.
However, it's worth noting that Tesla has helped bring the topic of sustainability to the forefront.

Additionally, we're not exactly saving the planet. No matter what we do to earth do you think the planet gives a shit? If the planet decides to unleash earthquakes, tsunamis, or diseases, we are as dead as Julius Caesar. Nobody no matter how strong can save the planet (that's a marketing buzzword); we're simply trying to preserve our habitat.

That being said, I am a big fan of Elon and I believe his Twitter project to provide a democratized platform is very important in today's day and age.

Once upon a time, there was this slogan "I may not agree with a word you say but will defend to the death your right to say it!" attributed to Voltaire (but you can never be sure).

Now we have gone to an era of beeps on every F*ck, woke and right-wing propaganda, and eco chamber Social media and Google searches that confirm our monkey brain biases on every occasion.

So the Elon Twitter/ X project is a move in the right direction to give everyone compliant with the law a voice.
 
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For those missing the forest through the trees...

Here's your nutshell.

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Journalists have basically always been scammers. The main reason that ideas spread is because they're useful to people in power.


"The printing press is an arsenal, it cannot be private property." -Napoleon
 
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LinkedIn feels the same. I think @Andy Black was noting this the other week?
LinkedIn has always been a bit of a strange platform. Business folks and employees post weirdly. "We're delighted to announce we've been nominated for blah blah blah."

I've noticed lately my feed is full of LinkedIn influencers teaching people how to create content so it's more engaging etc. A lot of it's great advice, but I prefer just posting whatever comes to mind and not having a content calendar etc.
 

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LinkedIn in a nutshell.
 

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I've just seen a clip of this interview a few mins ago on youtube and am glad to see someone posted it here. The full video is going to wind my Thursday night down nicely.

Life is so much more interesting when we have a guy with the biggest amount of F*ck you money in the world, and some balls as big as his bank account to tell people:

"F*ck You."

I can't find the full interview unfortunately, they have only posted clips by the look of it.
 

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Elon has shown uncanny ability to do well in business. This move and the way he handled himself is entertaining but I’d love to understand how it plays out for him in business for X.

What’s the angle?

Charge more for being on X to each individual user?

Find other advertisers by providing free speech platform?

I’m trying to guess what Elon is thinking…
his antisemitic tweet did not play out very well.
he is on a damage control mode(pr). he is now gone to israel on a short notice .
he has also apologised for the comment
 

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Is Elon Musk endorsing an anti-semmetic tweet, or is he allowing it to be tweeted on his platform? There's a difference.


Questions for the forum...
Alternate question, do you really think electric cars are saving the planet?
Peter Zeihan has an interesting take on electric cars, he reckons mining capacity can't support the heavy metals required for electric cars to be produced at the scale governments wants them to be produced at for at least a decade, mining capacity is a tricky thing to scale up.

I think all that will be achieved is pricing poor people and those less well off out of car ownership.

In the long term, electric vehicles will be great for urban areas, because they will clean up the air nicely. But it's a transition that the market should make, not the government.
 
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Lol, the interviewer telling Musk that he had people saying he shouldn't "platform" him by interviewing him.

To which the guy who owns and controls the biggest platform in the world just chuckled in response to.
 

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Questions for the forum...

Referencing the video Fox shared, do you believe Elon's claim to have done more for the planet than anyone? Alternate question, do you really think electric cars are saving the planet?

Also, I don't use X but I have heard people complain that bot traffic is back full force since the acquisition. Those who use X, have you had a similar experience?
Have been posting actively for past two days (for an idea in mind).

I don’t know if bots have been active in the past. They do exist now. It is not so much of a concern because it is not difficult to sniff them out. They will just follow you and try to dm you.

But I think the problem is X is relatively lack of genuine communication. It is more or less blatant self-promotion and hustling for more followers. It literally feel like being in Grant Cardone’s dystopia: Sell or be sold.
 

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