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That's very funny
What have you done today? Did you do anything at all to help future-you?

Like learning a marketable skill that offers value to people?

If the answer is no, then maybe he's right.

You should take the advice on working out multiple times during the day, especially before getting work done. I have ADHD, workout 3 times per day and have since been picking up the phone daily to cold call and meet up with prospects and I got 2 clients for my baby web design business.

You should know that I only started working out this way about 10 days ago and just a few days later I began picking up the phone to make cold calls, the very same activity which I despised with all my heart until that point. My stomach would turn even then but after just a few days of doing it I now don't care at all, and it feels great!

In the past I've gone on NoFap and semen retention (a bit hard in a relationship unless you're a kegel overlord monk living in the Himalayas) which had a huge impact on my brain, emotions and even changed the way I view life and the world, but it didn't make me more productive.. in fact it made me more complacent with mediocrity.

Anyways, just do something dude. All businesses begin ugly, with an abundance of frustration, "bad" luck and tons of issues.
 
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What have you done today? Did you do anything at all to help future-you?

Like learning a marketable skill that offers value to people?

If the answer is no, then maybe he's right.

You should take the advice on working out multiple times during the day, especially before getting work done. I have ADHD, workout 3 times per day and have since been picking up the phone daily to cold call and meet up with prospects and I got 2 clients for my baby web design business.

You should know that I only started working out this way about 10 days ago and just a few days later I began picking up the phone to make cold calls, the very same activity which I despised with all my heart until that point. My stomach would turn even then but after just a few days of doing it I now don't care at all, and it feels great!

In the past I've gone on NoFap and semen retention (a bit hard in a relationship unless you're a kegel overlord monk living in the Himalayas) which had a huge impact on my brain, emotions and even changed the way I view life and the world, but it didn't make me more productive.. in fact it made me more complacent with mediocrity.

Anyways, just do something dude. All businesses begin ugly, with an abundance of frustration, "bad" luck and tons of issues.
Yes I did help future me today. I've been on this forum for a couple hours digesting the gold and notable threads and trying to contact some members. I work out daily.
 

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Yes I did help future me today. I've been on this forum for a couple hours digesting the gold and notable threads and trying to contact some members. I work out daily.
I consider that action faking, you can read for the rest of your life. All you need is Unscripted or TMF.

Contacting members? Why, stop being an action faker, and do something.
 

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Yes I did help future me today. I've been on this forum for a couple hours digesting the gold and notable threads and trying to contact some members. I work out daily.
Anyone can read and get motivated all day, every day. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.

You sound like you want someone to hold your hand and lead the way for you.

These threads?

If you actually "digested" them then you'll be reporting back here tomorrow on how you cold called 5 businesses and tried selling *something* and/or helped someone by solving a problem for them.

Seriously, how hard would it be to cold call 5 businesses tomorrow? You'll gain a good amount of experience and confidence.

What about helping someone you know with whatever issue they may have?
 

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Anyone can read and get motivated all day, every day. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.

You sound like you want someone to hold your hand and lead the way for you.



These threads?

If you actually "digested" them then you'll be reporting back here tomorrow on how you cold called 5 businesses and tried selling *something* and/or helped someone by solving a problem for them.

Seriously, how hard would it be to cold call 5 businesses tomorrow? You'll gain a good amount of experience and confidence.

What about helping someone you know with whatever issue they may have?
That's actually a good idea, call up some local biz's and probe them about problems they have, see if you can find a solution to that problem.
 
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I consider that action faking, you can read for the rest of your life. All you need is Unscripted or TMF.

Contacting members? Why, stop being an action faker, and do something.
The very thing I'm trying to figure out is the "what".

I have some ideas now because of reading those threads. Before I go all in on something it needs to makes sense and resonate with me.
 
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Wow, holy heck, there's so much high value advice in this thread. @Bekit really broke it down and I hope others see this thread too! A lot people in the same situation (I remember I was too, back in 2013 and it sucked).
How did you personally get out of that situation?
 

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Before I go all in on something it needs to makes sense and resonate with me.
Why do you have to go “all-in”?

Why does it need to “resonate with me”?


Say your goal is to help people, then would you let someone struggle because helping them isn’t “all-in”, or because it doesn’t “resonate with me”?


Another thread that may help, although I’m wondering if linking to these is helping:
> Clarity of Purpose


Lots of people telling you to just start.

Pick a direction. Get started. Keep going.

Get market feedback as soon as possible. The simplest is to help people, and have someone say thanks in return.

Do that, then figure out how to help someone and get someone to pay you as well as thank you.

Start getting referrals and repeat business and you’re onto something.
 

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How did you personally get out of that situation?
  • Keep trying things (but don't get shiny object syndrome)
  • Look for positive responses from the market or anybody that you interact with
  • Once you make some money or see that you're helping anyone at all, focus in on that.
  • You want to look for these feedback loops. @MJ DeMarco talks about them as 'echos' in his book
  • Don't give up. It's hard but if it were easy, everyone would be doing it
I really empathize with this thread and what you're going through. I think a lot of other people do here too, that's why there are so many people trying to help you. Everyone that's made it has been through the same thing. Few people knew what they were going to do from the start. Everyone has had those days of doubt. Everyone has questioned if what they were doing were worth it.
You just gotta keep going and build from where you are.
I think a good thing to do is to make sure you compare yourself today to who you were yesterday and not to who you want to be in 5-10 years. You will get paralyzed if you keep thinking you need to be a millionaire and making stacks of cash when you need to start somewhere from the ground.
 

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Can you go through the video in the first link and report back here.

What are your takeaways?

What will you do differently this week?
Takeaways:
- Don't think too big. Just try to help people. Just try to help one person to start with, and everything will slowly fall into place.
- You don't need to be an expert. Just get started.

What I will do differently:
- I will try to shift my focus and perspective to one where I'm trying to help people. I'll contact some friends that are in business and ask them if there's anything they need help with, for example.
 
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  • Keep trying things (but don't get shiny object syndrome)
  • Look for positive responses from the market or anybody that you interact with
  • Once you make some money or see that you're helping anyone at all, focus in on that.
  • You want to look for these feedback loops. @MJ DeMarco talks about them as 'echos' in his book
  • Don't give up. It's hard but if it were easy, everyone would be doing it
I really empathize with this thread and what you're going through. I think a lot of other people do here too, that's why there are so many people trying to help you. Everyone that's made it has been through the same thing. Few people knew what they were going to do from the start. Everyone has had those days of doubt. Everyone has questioned if what they were doing were worth it.
You just gotta keep going and build from where you are.
I think a good thing to do is to make sure you compare yourself today to who you were yesterday and not to who you want to be in 5-10 years. You will get paralyzed if you keep thinking you need to be a millionaire and making stacks of cash when you need to start somewhere from the ground.
I agree, thank you!
 
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Why do you have to go “all-in”?

Why does it need to “resonate with me”?


Say your goal is to help people, then would you let someone struggle because helping them isn’t “all-in”, or because it doesn’t “resonate with me”?


Another thread that may help, although I’m wondering if linking to these is helping:
> Clarity of Purpose


Lots of people telling you to just start.

Pick a direction. Get started. Keep going.

Get market feedback as soon as possible. The simplest is to help people, and have someone say thanks in return.

Do that, then figure out how to help someone and get someone to pay you as well as thank you.

Start getting referrals and repeat business and you’re onto something.
Linking these are helpful. Just read it. I guess the part about going all in does not make sense from me. I'll try to help people.
 

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What an awesome and wholesome thread, I don't know about OP but I sure needed this. And from what I gathered you are the one to blame for that person's mindset shift.

Thank you!
me too, this is a brilliant thread and should be marked as gold. OP has been given so much great advice, this thread will definitely impact the many who find it and are in a similar situation.

Thank you everyone for this post.
 
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I want to be working on something right now, on something that I like. But no matter hard or how much I try I can't seem to figure it out. I started this online business a couple months ago, but it never went anywhere. I've tried things dropshipping and created an online store for t-shirts a couple years ago but quickly gave up.I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm tired and frustrated.

All I'm trying to do right now is work on a cool project where I can work on my skills and make progress. But I don't know what. I don't know what I like or what I'm passionate about. I've read dozens of success and business books but to no avail. I'm tired of thinking. I'm tired of reading. I just want to get to work, but I just can't figure out what to work on. My mind goes blank. Every idea that I think of, I either don't like, don't have the means to do it, or the idea is garbage. I don't know what to do.

Has anyone ever been in my shoes? How did you figure things out?
Sounds like you overthinking too much and you get yourself dependent on other people's advices. I would recommend you for the following 3 months not to read or watch or hear any business related topics. You have to grow up and try to figure out the things for yourself. The world needs solutions and you need your free space of mind. With no external sensory overload of ideas and opinions other people have. Learn to create a healthy attitude of "I don't care and it is important for me because I'm the only one who understands why". No matter what kind of solution you will find then, you will put automatically a philosophy inside your creating and you could have an positive impact on others. This is one way on how to create green value. Maybe you could find another way, share it with others and inspire them to follow your way.

No matter in which life situation you are right now. Stop right now and learn to think for yourself. Your thoughts are not your enemy. Hear them, love them but also proof them with a healthy attitude of scepticism. This could be a way for you to be successful. To find this out you have to walk for own alone.
 
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Sounds like you overthinking too much and you get yourself dependent on other people's advices. I would recommend you for the following 3 months not to read or watch or hear any business related topics. You have to grow up and try to figure out the things for yourself. The world needs solutions and you need your free space of mind. With no external sensory overload of ideas and opinions other people have. Learn to create a healthy attitude of "I don't care and it is important for me because I'm the only one who understands why". No matter what kind of solution you will find then, you will put automatically a philosophy inside your creating and you could have an positive impact on others. This is one way on how to create green value. Maybe you could find another way, share it with others and inspire them to follow your way.

No matter in which life situation you are right now. Stop right now and learn to think for yourself. Your thoughts are not your enemy. Hear them, love them but also proof them with a healthy attitude of scepticism. This could be a way for you to be successful. To find this out you have to walk for own alone.
I do agree to some extent. However I don't think going 3 months without business related topics is good for me. I was hoping to spend a lot of time on this forum for the next few months because after summer school starts again and I'll get busy with that, so the time to start something is right now.
 

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I want to be working on something right now, on something that I like. But no matter hard or how much I try I can't seem to figure it out. I started this online business a couple months ago, but it never went anywhere. I've tried things dropshipping and created an online store for t-shirts a couple years ago but quickly gave up.I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm tired and frustrated.

All I'm trying to do right now is work on a cool project where I can work on my skills and make progress. But I don't know what. I don't know what I like or what I'm passionate about. I've read dozens of success and business books but to no avail. I'm tired of thinking. I'm tired of reading. I just want to get to work, but I just can't figure out what to work on. My mind goes blank. Every idea that I think of, I either don't like, don't have the means to do it, or the idea is garbage. I don't know what to do.

Has anyone ever been in my shoes? How did you figure things out?

Edit: Spelling.
Are you a rapper? That is one of the coolest profile names on the net!

That is what it is all about! The Process.

I am in a FB group where a total newbie posted she made $4000 from a Free offer and now its up to $8,000 with proof of each free sign up/upgrade.

COVID era is actually a opportunity like no other for many people.

You have to use your Entre Eyes and see the opportunity...people are asking for help, needing help its a gold rush if you perceive it that way.
 
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I'm just going through a tough time man. I can't always be giving out value. I wish I could, but no one should be hearing advice from me right now. I don't have any mentors or anything. I know I sound whiny but I just figured I'd post here and see if anyone has been in a similar situation.
 
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Are you a rapper? That is one of the coolest profile names on the net!

That is what it is all about! The Process.

I am in a FB group where a total newbie posted she made $4000 from a Free offer and now its up to $8,000 with proof of each free sign up/upgrade.

COVID era is actually a opportunity like no other for many people.

You have to use your Entre Eyes and see the opportunity...people are asking for help, needing help its a gold rush if you perceive it that way.
I'm not a rapper haha. How did this person make money?
 

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I do agree to some extent. However I don't think going 3 months without business related topics is good for me. I was hoping to spend a lot of time on this forum for the next few months because after summer school starts again and I'll get busy with that, so the time to start something is right now.
You are since 2 years on this forum and you still think that you can build a well-running business within a few weeks during your holidays? Do you even need some serious advices or are you just looking for some attention?
 
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You are since 2 years on this forum and you still think that you can build a well-running business within a few weeks during your holidays? Do you even need some serious advices or are you just looking for some attention?
When did I say anything about building something within a few weeks?
If you're going to assume I'm here for attention then I don't want your advice.
 

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When did I say anything about building something within a few weeks?
If you're going to assume I'm here for attention then I don't want your advice.
So, what have you done lately?
 

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