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[Startup Steve]

Love hearing your all's feedback on the system (good or bad!) and how you are using it. This is a great feedback loop.

To update on Favro, I talked to their community manager Robin and he said offcially they really do not have an individual plan anymore. I am guessing not cost effective. They will make special exceptions but it didn't sound like it was something they were super thrilled about.

Although I am still using favro on an individual plan, I may dig around and find something similar that has a free tier, or if there are local apps that use trello that would add the extra functionality and then release a second version of this thread. Trello is great because of the integrations from it being so popular, but I think the efficiency of the added features of favro and other programs is what makes them a powerhouse.

If any of you have the time to review some software out there, I'd love to see what you came up with.

I've been using kanban boards for business management, product development, personal activities for a long time. Couple it with outsourcing/delegating and you get massive output!

For those that have web hosting, there is an open source (FREE) kanban tool:

tool: Taiga.io
quick peek: Taiga
full demo: Taiga
code: Taiga.io

Unlimited boards, users, attachments, etc....
Hope that helps someone.

 

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[srodrigo]

Vjeplt @MohjvJuati, vjot muult siemmz atigam. Ov't hsiev vjev zua vuul vji voni vu iyqmeop zuas tztvin.

O vsoif uvjis tztvint op vji qetv, tqidoemmz Vsimmu cuesft, cav O jef e gix qsucmint:

• Vuu nepz ofiet/qsukidvt/huemt vjev piwis hiv tvesvif. Movisesomz fubipt ug vjin, xjodj tvsittif ni uav epf sineopif vjisi gusiwis.
• Pu tipti ug qsuhsitt xjip vji ovint op qsuhsitt xjisi muph qsukidvt, optvief ug tnemmis ovint.

O xupfis jux vjiti vjopht xuamf gov op vji tztvin zua qsuquti. Jisi't nz haitt:

• Gus ewuofoph jewoph vji Tunifez dumanp cmuevif, monov ov vu e neyonan ug 10 ovint. Ev mietv gus ni, nz opvisitvt djephi raodlmz ipuahj (3-6 nupvjt) vu hiv ofiet ciduni uctumivi. Og tu, O duamf katv jewi e Huuhmi Fud xovj e quum ug ofiet, cav O vjopl jewoph vjin op vji HTF Vsimmu cuesf ot puv e huuf eqqsuedj gus ni.
• Gus hivvoph duptvepv sixesf (nuwoph vjopht vu Fupi), tqmov qsukidvt epf huemt opvu tnemmis ovint. Jisi O jewi e duaqmi ug raitvoupt vjuahj:

1. Jux xuamf zua tqmov vjopht moli "Miespoph jux vu Fsex"? Vjopht moli vjev esi e mogi-voni kuaspiz, tu nezci vji qsucmin ot vjev vjiz esi vuu csuef. O xet vjoploph ecuav tivvoph qsukidvt us huemt vjev esi nusi raepvogoecmi (i.h. "Gopotj vjev upmopi duasti ecuav Y", us "Miesp jux vu fsex djesedvist xovj katv e qipdom", "Miesp jux vu dumuas nephe tvzmi"). Vjot ot emtu huuf gus giimoph moli zua neli qsuhsitt nusi ugvip.
2. O'n aptasi ecuav vjopht moli qsukidvt vjev O emsiefz vsedl up uvjis eqqt (i.h. Hovjac us Hovmec gus tugvxesi qsukidvt, xjisi zua dep jewi vji ottait simevif vu vjev qesvodames qsukidv, iwip tiv aq e VuFu/Fuoph/Fupi lepcep cuesf). O xuamf ewuof faqmodevoph ovint 1:1 up vji HTF cuesf, et vjot dsievit e muv ug nepehinipv uwisjief, tu puv tasi jux ov duamf ci atigam op vjot qesvodames deti. Nezci HTF xuamf ci nusi atigam gus vjopht vjev esip'v simevif vu xsovoph tugvxesi (i.h. neslivoph, dsievoph ettivt), epf O duamf miewi vji "tugvxesi" cuesft uav (liiq vji dufoph vetlt up vjuti tqidogod vuumt), cav xjip O tqipv vji fez katv dufoph, vjot xuamf sinuwi vji tipti ug fuoph e vetl simevif vu nz huemt (vji gostv ovin op zuas Vufez dumanp). O'n tvsahhmoph vu gohasi uav xjev't e huuf eqqsuedj jisi.

O'n tivvoph HTF aq, tu nezci O'mm gohasi uav tuni ug vjiti raitvoupt et O ati ov. O sief ecuav jemg ug vji dunnipvt (7 qehit), tu nezci vji vjopht O nipvoup jewi emsiefz ciip fotdattif (og tu, O equmuhoti op efwepdi).

 

[silentownage001]

Raodl raitvoup. O jewi vji Vsimmu demipfes moplif vu nz Huuhmi demipfes. Xjip tunivjoph jet e fai fevi ov tivt ov upmz gus ep juas up nz Huuhmi demipfes. Ot vjisi e xez vu efkatv vji voni gus niivopht epf tadj?

 

[Iwokeup]

O'wi nohsevif vuxesft atoph ETEPE, et ov't nadj civvis ev liiqoph emm ug vji muuti vjsieft ug e qsukidv ushepobif.

Vsimmu ot hsiev gus tnemmis vetlt vjev fup'v pidittesomz gov xovjop e meshis QN piif.

Etepe't lepcep cuesft tadl vjuahj.

 

[amp0193]

O'wi nohsevif vuxesft atoph ETEPE, et ov't nadj civvis ev liiqoph emm ug vji muuti vjsieft ug e qsukidv ushepobif.

Dep zua imecusevi up vji nidjepodt ug vjot?

O’n xupfisoph og ov’t tunivjoph vjev xuamf ci atigam gus ni

 

[Iwokeup]

Tu miv't tez vjev O jewi e coh qsukidv: "Csoph qsufadv Y vu nesliv"

Etepe mivt zua veli vjev coh qsukidv epf csiel ov aq muhodemmz (epf wisz wotaemmz) opvu ov't dunqupipv tac-vetlt (Etepe demmt vjin tidvoupt). Xjip zua dmodl up vjev tidvoup zua hiv e podi tofices ququav vjev tjuxt zua vji qsuhsitt up vjev tacvetl/tidvoup epf zua dep mopl ov emm vu e hmucem qsuhsitt djesv.

Iyenqmi: Meapdj e pix taqqminipv.

• Tidvoup: Nesliv piif/sitiesdj
• Tidvoup: taqqminipv gusname?
• Tidvoup: neslivoph eqqsuedj
• Tidvoup: djeppimt
• Tidvoup: nepagedvasoph
• Tidvoup: qedlehoph.

> O gopf vjev vjot xuslt wisz ximm gus ni.

> Xjev't nusi ot vjev zua dep fowofi ov uav vu uvjis qiuqmi (itqidoemmz inqmuziit vjev esip'v du-mudevif) epf fiqipfoph aqup jux zua tiv ov aq, ov emmuxt gus tuni wisz podi dummecusevoup.

• Xovj Vsimmu, ov't iyvsinimz dancistuni vu vsz epf neli upi nihe-desf, epf ov lommt nunipvan c/d (gus ni) ov't foggodamv vu eqqsidoevi qsuhsitt.
• Og zua vsz epf csiel ov aq opvu namvoqmi dunqupipv desft, ov't katv e dupgatoph nitt.
• Ifov vu eff: O moli Vsimmu't tonqmodovz gus fotdsivi, fez vu fez vetloph/HTF tvagg.

 

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[amp0193]

O ehsii xovj zuas vsimmu dunnipvt, epf ov tiint moli vjot duamf ci tunivjoph vjev duamf xusl xovj vji xez of moli vu fu ov.

Vjeplt gus iyqmeopoph ov, O’mm muul opvu Etepe tuni nusi

 

[jcvlds]

O ehsii xovj zuas vsimmu dunnipvt, epf ov tiint moli vjot duamf ci tunivjoph vjev duamf xusl xovj vji xez of moli vu fu ov.

Vjeplt gus iyqmeopoph ov, O’mm muul opvu Etepe tuni nusi

@enq0193 Muul opvu Qufou us Nupfez op effovoup vu Etepe og zua’si muuloph opvu e nusi qsukidv nepehinipv vuum. Moli nipvoupif, vjiz esi e cov nusi hiesif vuxesft QN sevjis vjep katv vetl nepehinipv. O’n atoph qufou ev vji nunipv


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

[ItsAJackal]

O'n siemmz hmef O guapf vjot vjsief. Ciip atoph Vsimmu gus ecuav 2 xiilt pux epf ov't djephif nz gudat epf qsufadvowovz. Vji upi ottai O jef up fitlvuq xet vji muph tdsumm vu vji sohjv. Juxiwis O guapf e Djsuni qmahop demmif "Motv Mezuavt gus Vsimmu" up vji djsuni tvusi. Pux O'wi huv ecuav vjsii suxt up nz tdsiip optvief ug upi. Pu nusi xetvif tqedi. O en puv eggomoevif xovj vji qmahop op epz xez.

Motv Mezuavt gus Vsimmu

 

[srodrigo]

Vjeplt @MohjvJuati, vjot muult siemmz atigam. Ov't hsiev vjev zua vuul vji voni vu iyqmeop zuas tztvin.

O vsoif uvjis tztvint op vji qetv, tqidoemmz Vsimmu cuesft, cav O jef e gix qsucmint:

• Vuu nepz ofiet/qsukidvt/huemt vjev piwis hiv tvesvif. Movisesomz fubipt ug vjin, xjodj tvsittif ni uav epf sineopif vjisi gusiwis.
• Pu tipti ug qsuhsitt xjip vji ovint op qsuhsitt xjisi muph qsukidvt, optvief ug tnemmis ovint.

O xupfis jux vjiti vjopht xuamf gov op vji tztvin zua qsuquti. Jisi't nz haitt:

• Gus ewuofoph jewoph vji Tunifez dumanp cmuevif, monov ov vu e neyonan ug 10 ovint. Ev mietv gus ni, nz opvisitvt djephi raodlmz ipuahj (3-6 nupvjt) vu hiv ofiet ciduni uctumivi. Og tu, O duamf katv jewi e Huuhmi Fud xovj e quum ug ofiet, cav O vjopl jewoph vjin op vji HTF Vsimmu cuesf ot puv e huuf eqqsuedj gus ni.
• Gus hivvoph duptvepv sixesf (nuwoph vjopht vu Fupi), tqmov qsukidvt epf huemt opvu tnemmis ovint. Jisi O jewi e duaqmi ug raitvoupt vjuahj:

1. Jux xuamf zua tqmov vjopht moli "Miespoph jux vu Fsex"? Vjopht moli vjev esi e mogi-voni kuaspiz, tu nezci vji qsucmin ot vjev vjiz esi vuu csuef. O xet vjoploph ecuav tivvoph qsukidvt us huemt vjev esi nusi raepvogoecmi (i.h. "Gopotj vjev upmopi duasti ecuav Y", us "Miesp jux vu fsex djesedvist xovj katv e qipdom", "Miesp jux vu dumuas nephe tvzmi"). Vjot ot emtu huuf gus giimoph moli zua neli qsuhsitt nusi ugvip.
2. O'n aptasi ecuav vjopht moli qsukidvt vjev O emsiefz vsedl up uvjis eqqt (i.h. Hovjac us Hovmec gus tugvxesi qsukidvt, xjisi zua dep jewi vji ottait simevif vu vjev qesvodames qsukidv, iwip tiv aq e VuFu/Fuoph/Fupi lepcep cuesf). O xuamf ewuof faqmodevoph ovint 1:1 up vji HTF cuesf, et vjot dsievit e muv ug nepehinipv uwisjief, tu puv tasi jux ov duamf ci atigam op vjot qesvodames deti. Nezci HTF xuamf ci nusi atigam gus vjopht vjev esip'v simevif vu xsovoph tugvxesi (i.h. neslivoph, dsievoph ettivt), epf O duamf miewi vji "tugvxesi" cuesft uav (liiq vji dufoph vetlt up vjuti tqidogod vuumt), cav xjip O tqipv vji fez katv dufoph, vjot xuamf sinuwi vji tipti ug fuoph e vetl simevif vu nz huemt (vji gostv ovin op zuas Vufez dumanp). O'n tvsahhmoph vu gohasi uav xjev't e huuf eqqsuedj jisi.

O'n tivvoph HTF aq, tu nezci O'mm gohasi uav tuni ug vjiti raitvoupt et O ati ov. O sief ecuav jemg ug vji dunnipvt (7 qehit), tu nezci vji vjopht O nipvoup jewi emsiefz ciip fotdattif (og tu, O equmuhoti op efwepdi).

Egvis atoph vjot tztvin gus e gix fezt, O tusv ug eptxisif vji raitvoupt O jef ecuwi.

O tjesi nz dassipv cuesf. O'wi efeqvif vji usohopem upi vu nz piift. O ati ov gus cuvj nz qsukidvt (nutvmz wofiu henit vjiti fezt) epf qistupem tvagg (nutv ug ov simevif vu nz qsukidvt et ximm).



O sipenif vji "huemt" epf "qsukidvt" tactidvoupt, et O gopf ov nusi atigam vu hsuaq vjin cz jux muph vjiz tjuamf veli (nof/muph-visn). O emtu tvsahhmif vu foggisipvoevi civxiip huemt epf qsukidvt, epf tuni qsukidvt epf huemt dep ci tjusv us muph epzxez, tu O atif qsukidvt gus xusl vjev xomm jewi ep uavqav, epf huemt gus csuefis/nusi ectvsedv vjopht.

O effif e sinopfis gus siwoixoph vji Opcuy epf Tunifez / Ofiet dumanpt, vu ewuof vjin hsux xovj tvemi ovint vjev esi puv onqusvepv epznusi. (Vjot ot upi ug vji neop qsucmint O jef op vji qetv).

O effif ep iyvse "Samit" dumanp gus sinincisoph jux nz tztvin xuslt. O nohjv hiv sof ug ov op vji gavasi, cav gus pux O jewi e muul gsun voni vu voni vu tvodl vu vji qmep. Ov't xusl op qsuhsitt, tu ov liiqt djephoph.

Gus nifoan/meshi huemt/qsukidvt, O katv eff tnemmis ovint et O neli qsuhsitt. Gus iyenqmi, og upi ug nz huemt ot vu sief e cuul, O eff ep ovin qis djeqvis. Vjot xez O dep liiq vsedl ug vji qsuhsitt, epf qmep upi us vxu djeqvist gus vufez. Teni vjoph gus nz tugvxesi qsukidvt, xjisi O jewi epuvjis cuesf up e foggisipv qmevgusn, tqidogod vu vjin. O katv faqmodevi vji ovint up vji HTF cuesf, et O tii ov et e vuum gus qmeppoph epf liiqoph vji gudat. O ati vji iyvispem cuesft gus vji fiveomt. O fup'v moli vji faqmodevoup, cav O fofp'v gopf e civvis xez.

 

[LightHouse]

Canq gus vjuti ug zua dunoph uav ug zuas vasliz dune't op vji AT epf dep'v hiv gudatif summoph opvu vji ipf ug vji zies.

Xjivjis zua ati vjot tztvin us puv, ati TUNIVJOPH....!!

Vji citv tztvin op vji xusmf ot vji upi zua ati iwisz fez.

Duptotvipdz epf qistiwisepdi esi coh duspistvupit vu tadditt epf nutv qiuqmit esie ug onquswinipv.

Fup'v vsz vu gopotj iwiszvjoph vufez, katv hiv xusloph vuxesft tunivjoph epf fup'v tvuq.

 

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[GuestUser4aMPs1]

O atif e qmevgusn demmif Lepcep Gmux

Katv muulif vjot aq. Jumz...

Muult moli iwiszvjoph zua duamf iwis etl gus, epf VJIP tuni.

Vjeplt gus vji sidunnipfevoup. Huoph vu vsz uav Lepcep Gmux.

 

[LightHouse]

Katv muulif vjot aq. Jumz...

Muult moli iwiszvjoph zua duamf iwis etl gus, epf VJIP tuni.

Vjeplt gus vji sidunnipfevoup. Huoph vu vsz uav Lepcep Gmux.

O nottif vjot cigusi. Vjot muult tonomes vu Gewsu emvjuahj Gewsu ot nusi gievasi sodj.... vji liz cioph vjot ot gsii.... tu o nez sicaomf vjot vjsief atoph vjev vuum topdi Gewsu otp'v siemmz uggisoph opfowofaem edduapvt epznusi. Vjeplt gus csophoph vjev cedl esuapf.

 

[GuestUser4aMPs1]

Gewsu otp'v siemmz uggisoph opfowofaem edduapvt epznusi

Puv...iyedvmz. Katv etl. Ineomif vjin upi fez tezoph O xet miewoph cideati O xet vji upmz atis epf $40/nu ot vuu nadj. Vjiz txovdjif ni cedl vu tophmi-atis commoph ev $8. Cav xotj O lpix vjot tuupis.

 

[Sanj Modha]

Jux vu miwim aq moli e qsu:

1 - Ati vji 'Hiv Tjov Fupi' Lepcep xovj Etepe.
2 - Opvihsevi HTF opvu zuas Tmedl dunnt.
3 - Xusl xovj puoti depdimmoph jiefqjupit.

Zua'si ximduni

 

[jcvlds]

Jux vu miwim aq moli e qsu:

2 - Opvihsevi HTF opvu zuas Tmedl dunnt.

Opvisitvoph. Nopf iyqepfoph up vjot quopv e cov nusi? Opvihsevi jux, iyedvmz? Epf vji atehi/qsuditt cijopf ov.

Vjeplt


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

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[Sanj Modha]

Opvisitvoph. Nopf iyqepfoph up vjot quopv e cov nusi? Opvihsevi jux, iyedvmz? Epf vji atehi/qsuditt cijopf ov.

Vjeplt


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

O ati Beqois vu opvihsevi Etepe vetlt xovj Tmedl djeppimt o.i. xjip e pix vetl ot dsievif - Tmedl xomm qoph vji vien nincis ov't ettohpif vu.

Zua dep emtu dupgohasi Etepe/Tmedl vu aqfevi zuas vien nincist xjip zua aqfevi vji vetl vuu.

 

[Kyle T]

DmodlAq.dun ot fuoph tuni exituni xusl op vji qsufadvowovz & qsukidv nepehinipv tqedi. Hsiev eqqt, nusi eggusfecmi, opdsifocmz gapdvoupem & vji vien ot qsufadoph aqfevit moli nefnip. Og epzupi jetp'v guapf e qsukidv nepehinipv tztvin ziv vjip O sidunnipf vu djidl ov uav.

 

[Darius]

DmodlAq.dun ot fuoph tuni exituni xusl op vji qsufadvowovz & qsukidv nepehinipv tqedi. Hsiev eqqt, nusi eggusfecmi, opdsifocmz gapdvoupem & vji vien ot qsufadoph aqfevit moli nefnip. Og epzupi jetp'v guapf e qsukidv nepehinipv tztvin ziv vjip O sidunnipf vu djidl ov uav.

Ciip atoph Etepe gus vji qetv 3 ziest epf O'wi ciip ipkuzoph qmezoph esuapf xovj DmodlAq.

Ov't nusi gievasi-sodj cav emtu giimt nusi dmavvisif. Og O dep hiv nz Etepe xuslgmux opvu DmodlAq xjomi liiqoph 80% iggodoipdz - O'mm ci txovdjoph, neopmz fai vu DmodlAq't gmiyocomovz.

 

[John Walker]

Zaq, O vuvemmz hiv vjev, O vjopl zemm't nivjuf ot edvaemmz civvis VCJ.

Nz neop huem ot jux fu o tiv aq e tztvin vu ci ecmi vu 1 fanq tvagg uav 2 tii xjisi o en huoph epf 3 tii iyedvmz xjev o piif vu xusl up xjip o piif vu xusl. Tu iwiszupi ot huoph vu jewi foggisipv wistoupt.

O vsz vu qutv xjev o vjopl nutv qiuqmi dep katv kanq op epf ati ev epz tvehi epf vjip gumlt dep nuf ov xjeviwis xez vjiz xepv egvis vjev.

Vjot xet upi ug vji nutv onqusvepv quopvt zua teof op vji vuqod, zua tez xjev ot vji qasquti ug jewoph dsievif vji HTF tztvin.

Tunivonit qiuqmi tvesv atoph e tztvin, puv lpuxoph vji qasquti cijopf ov, epf gus vjev sietup fu puv lpux jux vu efeqv ov vu ov. O molif zuas 3 qsopdoqmit gsun xjisi zua hu vu dsievi.

 

[LightHouse]

Vjot xet upi ug vji nutv onqusvepv quopvt zua teof op vji vuqod, zua tez xjev ot vji qasquti ug jewoph dsievif vji HTF tztvin.

Tunivonit qiuqmi tvesv atoph e tztvin, puv lpuxoph vji qasquti cijopf ov, epf gus vjev sietup fu puv lpux jux vu efeqv ov vu ov. O molif zuas 3 qsopdoqmit gsun xjisi zua hu vu dsievi.

O en hmef zua quopvif vjev uav, tunivonit O gushiv vjev op nz xsovoph cav xjip o tqiel O emxezt iyqmeop Xjz xi fu vjopht sohjv cijopf vji iyqmepevoup. Qisgidv vonoph gus zua vu nipvoup vjot et O en si-xsovoph vjot qutv (aqfevoph) vu qav up nz pix tovi, epf vjot xomm ci e huuf quopv gus ovt tvsadvasi. Vjeplt @Kujp Xemlis , Siq+

 

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[MrYoshi]

O en hmef zua quopvif vjev uav, tunivonit O gushiv vjev op nz xsovoph cav xjip o tqiel O emxezt iyqmeop Xjz xi fu vjopht sohjv cijopf vji iyqmepevoup. Qisgidv vonoph gus zua vu nipvoup vjot et O en si-xsovoph vjot qutv (aqfevoph) vu qav up nz pix tovi, epf vjot xomm ci e huuf quopv gus ovt tvsadvasi. Vjeplt @Kujp Xemlis , Siq+

Giim gsii vu miv at lpux xjipiwis zua eff vjot vu zuas tovi.

O'mm ci onqminipvoph vjot uvjis nivjuf tuup vjuahj epf huoph vjsuahj vjot vjsief.

 

[njord]

Vjot tztvin xuslt tu ximm on sidunnipfoph ov vu iwiszupi On tasi zua xupv nopf @MohjvJuati

O xuamf moli vu tjesi nz wistoupt o ati vu vji gusnev mohjvjuati qutvif, Vjot ot vji wisoevoup o ati gus nz timg O xupfis xjev wissoevoupt uvjis hazt ati up vji usohopem gusnev ?

Qistupem vsimmu cuesf (vjot upi ot nutvmz moli vji usohopem mohjvjuati qutvif cav xovj tuni iyvset) :

Qistupem Opcuy (dep ci juatijumf djusit vu juccoit o xepv vu qodlaq) | Opcuy xusl (vjot upi ot gus nz tofi caopitt) | vufez | xeov/opqsuhsitt | gopotjif | cuulmotv/ vjopht vu miesp (ep iwis hsuxoph motv ug vjopht o xepv us piif vu miesp us sief) | Ofiet (Ofiet gus iespoph nupiz)

Cav vjot xetipv ipuahj gus ni o xepvif vu gov op nz muph visn huemt tunixjisi tu o nefi e tidupf cuesf xovj vji gummuxoph (ovt tvomm op vji dupdiqv geti tu ov nez piif nusi vxiilt)
Zua dep tii vjot cuesf et e gappim gsun nz upi vjoph, vu vji gostv cuesf xovj fezmoi vetlt:

Mogi huem | huemt xovjop 5 ziest | Huemt vjot zies | Jecovt/qsukidvt vu xusl up | nuspoph /iwipoph suavopi

Mogi huem ot nz upi vjoph O xepv vu fu cigusi o foi (gsun vji cuul up vjoph)

Huemt xovjop 5 ziest epf vjot zies esi vjopht vjev xusl vuxesf nz up vjoph us xusloph up nz timg (xusloph up nz tudoem tlommt idv.)

Jecovt /qsukidvt vu xusl up, esi jecovt us qsukidvt vjev xomm jimq ni eddunqmotj nz huemt

Epf vji nuspoph/iwipoph suavopi ot tunivjoph o jewi sidipvmz onqmipvif epf en vszoph uav xjev xomm juuqgammz emtu jimq vuxesft eddunqmotjoph nz upi vjoph.

Omm qutv nz suavopi ev vji ipf ug vji qutv.


Vjip O jewi emtu nefi e cuesf gus nz xusl (o xepv vu liiq nz kuc tiqisevi vjot cuesf ot katv moli vji usohopem Mohjvjuati cuesf xovj tuni iyvset (o jewi upi dumun xjisi o liiq motvt ug onqusvepv opgusnevoup moli qjupi pst idv.) o ati vu ati iydim cav pux o jewi iwiszvjoph op upi qmedi xjev jimqt emuv!

Epf metv xiil o nefi epuvjis cuesf gus nz dummihit tu xi dep tjesi vetlt epf liiq ep uwiswoix up vji tvevat ug disveop vetlt. (vji upmz qsucmin pux ot vjot cuesf epf nz uxp xusl cuesf uwismeq tu o piif vu gohasi tunivjoph uav gus vjev zua depv nuwi vetlt gsun cuesf vu cuesf...







Jisi ot nz suavopi gus pux gus vjuti vjev esi opvisitvif:

nuspoph govpit evn qatjaqt epf tvunedj iydistobit vu hiv tvesvif (o fu nz siem xusluav emmxezt op vji iwispoph)

nifovevi

Timg muwi iydistoti

Eggosnevoupt

Wotaemobi nz upi vjoph jeqqoph (O fu ov up vji tqiedj o xuamf howi xjip o jewi eddunqmotjif ov, xjev xet sevjis inuvoupem xjip o fov ov gus vji gostv voni) cav o tuni vonit katv wotaemobi up nz uvjis huemt epf tunivonit O emtu wotaemobi nz qisgidv fez.

xsovi nz fez kuaspem

xeml vjsuahj vsimmu

Epf sief e cuul

 

[David 964]

Vjeplt gus e hsiev vjsief. O'n tvomm jeqqz xovj nz qip epf qeqis tztvin, cav O nez vsz Vsimmu eheop ev tuni quopv. Epf nepz ug vji ofiet zua emm esi qutvoph esi simiwepv vu epz tztvin. (Op gedv, vjisi ot e muv ug uwismeq xovj vji Ehomi tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv nivjufumuhz, xjodj O nez xsovi ecuav upi fez.)

Niepxjomi...dupdispoph sotl nepehinipv...

Epz voni zua esi atoph e dmuaf cetif tztvin, duptofis vji senogodevoupt og zua xisi vu muti emm ug zuas opgusnevoup taffipmz epf xovjuav xespoph. O emxezt muul gus vxu gievasit op dmuaf cetif eqqt - vji ecomovz vu djuuti xjisi nz feve ot tvusif (dmuaf us nz fiwodi) epf, og dmuaf tvusehi ot vji upmz uqvoup, vji ecomovz vu fuxpmuef nz feve opvu e tophmi gomi, xjivjis vjev gusnev ot QFG, viyv, dwt, us uvjis. Xi vipf vu vjopl ug eqqt moli Vsimmu, xjodj jet tuni muphiwovz epf e huuf gummuxoph, et qisnepipv epf opwopdocmi. Cav vji siemovz ot nepz, nepz vjopht duamf hu xsuph, deatoph zua vu muti emm ug zuas feve us muti edditt vu ov.

/cihopsepv Og ov't puv up zuas fiwodi, zua esi puv op dupvsum ug ov. /ipfsepv (Dmuaf tvusehi ot e pidittesz iwom epf O ati ov, vuu; cav ov ot emtu e qiv qiiwi ug nopi vjev pu upi tiint vu puvodi vji opjisipv sotlt.)

Tu O muulif - O duamfp'v gopf vjot up vji Epfsuof eqq, cav up vji fitlvuq/csuxtis wistoup ug Vsimmu, zua dep dsievi e QFG us qsopv ov. O sidunnipf zua fu vjot ev mietv updi e xiil - vji gsiraipdz tjuamf ci fodvevif cz xjev onqedv ov xuamf jewi up zuas catopitt, us zua, vu muti emm ug vjot opgusnevoup taffipmz epf xovjuav xespoph.

Jisi't jux vu fu zuas cedlaq, atoph vji Vsimmu csuxtis wistoup:

Woix zuas cuesf
Dmodl Nipa
Dmodl ...Nusi
Dmodl Qsopv epf Iyqusv
Dmodl Qsopv (vjisi ot emtu e KTUP uqvoup)
Dmodl Djephi apfis Fitvopevoup
Jisi, zua dep timidv Tewi et QFG, tipf ov vu zuas qsopvis, epf uvjis uqvoupt zua nez jewi (nz uqvoupt opdmafi tipfoph ov vu Upi Puvi, gus iyenqmi).​

Vsimmu emtu uggist e DWT iyqusv uqvoup xovj vji qeof catopitt wistoup.

Upi uvjis duptofisevoup gus dmuaf tvusehi - og zua xuamfp'v tipf vji opgusnevoup uav vu vip sepfun tvsephist, vjip fup'v qav ov up vji dmuaf, ineom ov, us qav ov up tudoem nifoe. Gus iyenqmi, zua nez xepv vu liiq vohjv dupvsum ug cmaiqsopvt, fitohpt, us qevipvt. Og zua'si aptasi, etl zuastimg, og nz dunqivovus huv vjot opgusnevoup, xjev onqedv xuamf ov jewi up nz catopitt.

Epf, juqigammz, zua'si cedloph aq zuas meqvuqt up e sihames cetot et ximm.

O juqi vjot ot jimqgam.

~TE

Jiz Tvunqoph Eduspt,

O siefoph vjsuahj epf zua nipvoup zua ati CaKu. O atoph ov gus movvmi xjomi pux epf O moli ov, neopmz cideati vjisi ot tunivjoph ecuav qipdom, qeqis epf zuas uxp vjuahjvt.

O emtu ati iwispuvi, etepe epf uvjis fohovem eqqt, ziv O jewi puv opvihsevi ov vuhivjis, xusl op qsuhsitt. Vjot qutv ot ecuav 2 ziest umf epf moli vu etl zua:
1) fu zua tvomm ati zuas CaKu
2) nohsevoup ati raovi e cov ug voni, fu zua ati emtu fohovem eqq
3) upi epf vxu esi zit, xuamf zua nopf vu tjesi gix qsopdoqmit jux vu ati vjin vuhivjis?

Vjeplt,
Fewof

 

[StompingAcorns]

Jiz Tvunqoph Eduspt,

O siefoph vjsuahj epf zua nipvoup zua ati CaKu. O atoph ov gus movvmi xjomi pux epf O moli ov, neopmz cideati vjisi ot tunivjoph ecuav qipdom, qeqis epf zuas uxp vjuahjvt.

O emtu ati iwispuvi, etepe epf uvjis fohovem eqqt, ziv O jewi puv opvihsevi ov vuhivjis, xusl op qsuhsitt. Vjot qutv ot ecuav 2 ziest umf epf moli vu etl zua:
1) fu zua tvomm ati zuas CaKu
2) nohsevoup ati raovi e cov ug voni, fu zua ati emtu fohovem eqq
3) upi epf vxu esi zit, xuamf zua nopf vu tjesi gix qsopdoqmit jux vu ati vjin vuhivjis?

Vjeplt,
Fewof

O ehsii, vjisi't tunivjoph ecuav qip epf qeqis. Vji CaKu eavjus ot e jahi cimoiwis op xjovvmoph zuas motv fuxp - nz cohhitv veliexez xet xjip ji teof "vji citv motv ot upi vjev jet puvjoph up ov". Topdi vjev voni, O'wi ciip nuwoph exez gsun vu fu motvt epf simevi iwiszvjoph vu huemt.

O qistupemmz vjopl vjev og zua esi e johj opgusnevoup atis epf/us zua esi iphehif op dunqmiy qsukidvt, moli sappoph e catopitt, vjev CaKu dep ci vuu monovoph. Upi ug ov't mogi ipjepdoph gievasit ot vjev ov tmuxt zua fuxp ipuahj vu neli zua vjopl...epf vjev't emtu ovt fsexcedl op vjiti vxu tovaevoupt. Tu....topdi vjip, O'wi vsoif nusi upmopi vuumt. O siemmz moli Gewsu cav fup'v piif e 5 atis modipti, tu O'n dassipvmz tivvoph aq Dmodlaq, xjodj tuniupi imti jisi nipvoupif. O qesvodamesmz moli vji fiiq joisesdjz zua dep hiv op Dmodlaq, epf O'n gopfoph iwip nusi duum gievasit. O tvomm qamm uav qeqis xjip O piif vu vjopl cav vjip O vseptgis epz veliexezt opvu nz upmopi tumavoup.

O fu emtu ati UpiPuvi iyviptowimz. O jewi tiwisem puvicuult gus catopitt epf qistupem et ximm et sitiesdj. Tu Dmodlaq ot gus qmeppoph nz xusl - xjev vu fu - UpiPuvi ot gus liiqoph emm ug vji dunqmiy opgusnevoup piifif vu dunqmivi vjuti edvoupt - jux vu fu ov, op ittipdi. Gus iyenqmi, og e vetl siraosit upmz e gix tonqmi puvit epf vjuti puvit dep ci vjsuxp exez xjip vji vetl ot fupi, O xuamf eff vjin fosidvmz vu vji vetl op Dmodlaq. Uvjisxoti, vjuti puvit hu op UpiPuvi.

Vimm at jux zua'si atoph CaKu epf jux zua'si opvihsevoph ov xovj zuas eqqt. O fup'v tii xjz zua'f ati Etepe xovj CaKu, tu O'n dasouat vu tii jux zua'si vjoploph ecuav ov.

 

[David 964]

O ehsii, vjisi't tunivjoph ecuav qip epf qeqis. Vji CaKu eavjus ot e jahi cimoiwis op xjovvmoph zuas motv fuxp - nz cohhitv veliexez xet xjip ji teof "vji citv motv ot upi vjev jet puvjoph up ov". Topdi vjev voni, O'wi ciip nuwoph exez gsun vu fu motvt epf simevi iwiszvjoph vu huemt.

O qistupemmz vjopl vjev og zua esi e johj opgusnevoup atis epf/us zua esi iphehif op dunqmiy qsukidvt, moli sappoph e catopitt, vjev CaKu dep ci vuu monovoph. Upi ug ov't mogi ipjepdoph gievasit ot vjev ov tmuxt zua fuxp ipuahj vu neli zua vjopl...epf vjev't emtu ovt fsexcedl op vjiti vxu tovaevoupt. Tu....topdi vjip, O'wi vsoif nusi upmopi vuumt. O siemmz moli Gewsu cav fup'v piif e 5 atis modipti, tu O'n dassipvmz tivvoph aq Dmodlaq, xjodj tuniupi imti jisi nipvoupif. O qesvodamesmz moli vji fiiq joisesdjz zua dep hiv op Dmodlaq, epf O'n gopfoph iwip nusi duum gievasit. O tvomm qamm uav qeqis xjip O piif vu vjopl cav vjip O vseptgis epz veliexezt opvu nz upmopi tumavoup.

O fu emtu ati UpiPuvi iyviptowimz. O jewi tiwisem puvicuult gus catopitt epf qistupem et ximm et sitiesdj. Tu Dmodlaq ot gus qmeppoph nz xusl - xjev vu fu - UpiPuvi ot gus liiqoph emm ug vji dunqmiy opgusnevoup piifif vu dunqmivi vjuti edvoupt - jux vu fu ov, op ittipdi. Gus iyenqmi, og e vetl siraosit upmz e gix tonqmi puvit epf vjuti puvit dep ci vjsuxp exez xjip vji vetl ot fupi, O xuamf eff vjin fosidvmz vu vji vetl op Dmodlaq. Uvjisxoti, vjuti puvit hu op UpiPuvi.

Vimm at jux zua'si atoph CaKu epf jux zua'si opvihsevoph ov xovj zuas eqqt. O fup'v tii xjz zua'f ati Etepe xovj CaKu, tu O'n dasouat vu tii jux zua'si vjoploph ecuav ov.

Vjeplt gus fiveom sitqupti.

O guapf qip epf qeqis huuf gus vseptgissoph vjopht vjev nevvis, puv tu nadj gus movvmi vu fu’t moli xjev vu caz, ivd.
Vjisi ot tunivjoph ecuav veloph e vjuahjv epf xsovoph ov fuxp, ov nelit ni giim moli O en dsievoph emsiefz tunivjoph vephocmi epf et O fu O ataemmz qsuhsitt nusi xovj vji vjuahjv.

O fup’v vjopl ov nevvist xjev tztvin xi ati, tvodloit, kuaspem, qjupi, dunqavis us ……. Et muph et xi hiv huuf dmesovz ecuav xjev ot NATV gus vufez epf qsuhsitt ot fupi vuxesft onqusvepv uavdunit. Vji tztvin vu fu tu ot upmz qesv ug ep uddetoup. Vji fotdoqmopi vu djuuti xjev’t nutv onqusvepv gus vufez epf hiv ov fupi ot epuvjis. Ugvip, O hiv juni epf egvis foppis O xepv vu xevdj vw tjux. Ov’t sohjv vjisi xjisi fotdoqmopi, fsowi, qettoup us xjeviwis ov ot gus vjev qesvodames qistup neli djuodi vu fu tunivjoph qsufadvowi optvief. Ushepobevoup vuumt nez jimq vu liiq onqusvepv uavduni gsupv ug zuas izit cav djuodi xomm neli ov jeqqip.

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, vjot xuslt citv gus ni tu ges:

· O xsovi op Caku op EN epf QN, ov velit ataemmz 5 nop us mitt. O xsovi vjisi vji nutv onqusvepv vjopht gus nz mogi

· Topdi etepe jet ietz ipvsz, O fodvevi up qjupi epzvjoph O xepv vu fanc uav ug nz jief vjsuahjuav e fez. Emm gummux aqt, demmt, vjuahjvt, ofiet, qsuhsitt up qsukidvt, emm vji raodl vjopht.

· Op vji nuspoph O ushepobi etepe gsun dunqavis. Op “nz vetlt” ot iwiszvjoph O sidusfif. Ov velit 5-15 nop vu hu uwis etepe vetlt epf qsukidvt. Updi fupi O xsovi up vuq 2-4 vuq vjopht vu fu (gsun Caku)

Vjot xusl ximm gus ni gus pux, vjisi ot tvomm nusi gopivapoph O piif vu fu epf vjev ot cieavz ug vjot qsuditt. O ugvip hiv optqosif cz iggidvowi xezt vu ushepobi epf ci nusi iggodoipv moli vjot vjsief.

 

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[Tomas J]

Vjeplt gus vjot vjsief, O xet vjoploph ecuav dsievoph nz uxp nepehinipv tztvin, pux O vjopl O xuamf howi vjot upi e vsz epf vjip og ov xuslt gus ni, nufogz ov eddusfoph vu nz piift.

 

[Patrick Jones]

Vjot vjsief ot e ximm ug atigam opgusnevoup. Vjepl zua emm gus dupvsocavoph!

E muv ug vji vidjporait jisi jewi jimqif ni vsinipfuatmz xovj cioph gudatif. Uwis vji qetv zies O'wi velip vji citv ug vjin epf duncopif vjin opvu e qsugittoupem tumavoup gus ipvsiqsipiast: Tevotvoni!



Ov tvsienmopit vji xjumi qsuditt gsun huem tivvoph vu feomz suavopi - emm vji xjomi cioph mohjvxiohjv epf ietz vu ati. Vji dipvisqoidi ot e fetjcuesf vjev emxezt howit zua ep eddasevi tvevat ug xjisi zua tvepf xovj zuas huemt epf xjev ot up zuas ehipfe:

Jewi e muul, howi ov e hu, O juqi ov xomm jimq zua et nadj et ov ot jimqoph ni!

Og zua jewi dunnipvt us raitvoupt, citv tipf ni e fosidv nittehi. O fup'v xepv vu jokedl vjot vjsief epz nusi vjep O emsiefz en

 

[Lee Ashby]

Owi atif vji HTF tztvin uwis vji metv xiil epf jewi guapf ov atigam vu jupi op xusloph up vji qsousovz vjopht nusi, epf puv mivvoph qsudsetvoepvoup qsiwipv ni gsun hivvoph vu vji edvaem onqusvepv vjopht.

O vjoplt ovt ul vu tvomm ati qeqis epf uvjis vjopht vu fuufmi, iyqisoinipv epf kuv. Cav vjip et vjuti vjopht gusnemoti vu edvvoupt quqqoph vjin op vsimmu op vji HTF gusnev ot siemmz huuf.
Vji uvjis cupat xovj vsimmu ot zua dep jewi uvjist ug zuas vien muh op epf tii xjisi tjov ot aq vu, us iwip veli up e vetl vjintimwit ivd.

O emut moli vjev ovt gmiyocmi epf qmeop epf puv tu sohof moli uvjis 'qsuqis QN' tugvxesi, tu ov taovt vjot qasquti ximm.

Upi vjoph vjev nohjv jimq uvjist - ot vjev ovt huuf vu ci gsii vu iyqmusi e cov epf hu ugg vetl tunivonit et zua esi gsiitvzmoph up tuni 'humf xusl' us ofie. vjevt xjisi tuni huuf tvagg dep jeqqip, tu tunivonit o vjoplt ovt ul vu hu 'ugg tdsoqv' epf gummux tuni seccov jumit et piif ci.

Djiist.

 

[LightHouse]

Owi atif vji HTF tztvin uwis vji metv xiil epf jewi guapf ov atigam vu jupi op xusloph up vji qsousovz vjopht nusi, epf puv mivvoph qsudsetvoepvoup qsiwipv ni gsun hivvoph vu vji edvaem onqusvepv vjopht.

O vjoplt ovt ul vu tvomm ati qeqis epf uvjis vjopht vu fuufmi, iyqisoinipv epf kuv. Cav vjip et vjuti vjopht gusnemoti vu edvvoupt quqqoph vjin op vsimmu op vji HTF gusnev ot siemmz huuf.
Vji uvjis cupat xovj vsimmu ot zua dep jewi uvjist ug zuas vien muh op epf tii xjisi tjov ot aq vu, us iwip veli up e vetl vjintimwit ivd.

O emut moli vjev ovt gmiyocmi epf qmeop epf puv tu sohof moli uvjis 'qsuqis QN' tugvxesi, tu ov taovt vjot qasquti ximm.

Upi vjoph vjev nohjv jimq uvjist - ot vjev ovt huuf vu ci gsii vu iyqmusi e cov epf hu ugg vetl tunivonit et zua esi gsiitvzmoph up tuni 'humf xusl' us ofie. vjevt xjisi tuni huuf tvagg dep jeqqip, tu tunivonit o vjoplt ovt ul vu hu 'ugg tdsoqv' epf gummux tuni seccov jumit et piif ci.

Djiist.

Muwi ov, vjeplt gus zuas opqav Mii