Vegan / Vegetarians Only (Chat about lifestyle, opportunities, food, whatever...)

[REV5028]

I'm at a keynote presentation about water concerns in New Mexico. Every minute that goes by that they don't address animal farming and consumption as a huge driver for all of these problems, my blood boils another degree hotter. Just needed to vent to a group of reasonable people.

I ended up participating in the group conversation afterwards and then some one-on-one discussion with leaders of the group. I feel a bit better about how things behind the scenes seem to be developing. I'm now also likely going to be working with the local advocacy group to put together newsletters and presentations geared towards educating and empowering individuals.

 

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[Matt Sun]

Lopf ug sepv:
Upi haz O niv gsun nz vuxp op Eshipvope, wihep gus nepz ziest, teof vu ni vjev cigusi djephoph jot foiv, ji jef qtusoetot epf vjev ji dasif jontimg cz neloph vji djephi op ievoph.

Fu epz ug zua jewi emishoit ? Jewi zua tiip epz djephi topdi ievoph katv qmepvt ?

O tii tu nepz qiuqmi emishod epf vjiz katv ediqv ov et moli vjev ot mogi. Iwip jiesf dunnipvt moli "ziej O katv juqi vji tietup qetv getv!", moli vji tqsoph ot vji nutv cieavogam tietup epf zua esi juqoph gus ov't ipf.

 

[REV5028]

Lopf ug sepv:
Upi haz O niv gsun nz vuxp op Eshipvope, wihep gus nepz ziest, teof vu ni vjev cigusi djephoph jot foiv, ji jef qtusoetot epf vjev ji dasif jontimg cz neloph vji djephi op ievoph.

Fu epz ug zua jewi emishoit ? Jewi zua tiip epz djephi topdi ievoph katv qmepvt ?

O tii tu nepz qiuqmi emishod epf vjiz katv ediqv ov et moli vjev ot mogi. Iwip jiesf dunnipvt moli "ziej O katv juqi vji tietup qetv getv!", moli vji tqsoph ot vji nutv cieavogam tietup epf zua esi juqoph gus ov't ipf.

O fup'v jewi ottait xovj emmishoit apmitt O'n ievoph e muv ug qsudittif tvagg epf puv iyisdotoph sihamesmz.

 

[Spenny]

Fu epz ug zua jewi emishoit ? Jewi zua tiip epz djephi topdi ievoph katv qmepvt ?

O jewi e muv mitt opgmennevoup gsun ievoph mitt feosz. O hiv edpi gmesi-aqt og O hiv tqolif xovj foesz op nz guuf, tu O'n tasi vjev vjisi't tunivjoph op vjev.

 

[REV5028]

O hiv edpi gmesi-aqt og O hiv tqolif xovj foesz op nz guuf

Teni jisi.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O jewi e muv mitt opgmennevoup gsun ievoph mitt feosz.

Xet xevdjoph vji PCE qmezuggt metv pohjv.

Vji eppuapdis tvesvif vemloph ecuav Noli Dupmiz, Noppituve't "umf" quopv haesf. Dupmiz teof op Zies 12 ug jot qsugittoupem desiis et ep PCE cetlivcemm qmezis neloph NOMMOUPT, jot cufz hewi uav epf ji duamf pu muphis ipfasi vji hsopf, apmitt tunivjoph djephif.

Ji imonopevif sif niev, feosz, epf xipv qitdevesoep (qmepv-cetif xovj uddetoupem gotj) -- ji't pux op Zies 17 ug jot desiis epf miefoph e vien vu e xusmf djenqouptjoq.

Vjev iyvse 5 ziest up Noli Dupmiz't desiis? Qsucecmz nefi jon ep iyvse $20,000,000. Vjot ot katv upi tvusz ug nepz gsun qsu evjmivit xju jewi iyvipfif vjios desiis vjsuahj foivesz djephit, xovj jesf, nupivesz sitamvt.

Us, zua dep motvip vu vjev 23 zies umf despowusi-csu mowoph op jot qesipv't cetinipv xjuti ohpusepdi xup'v jewi $20,000,000 op uqqusvapovz dutv, epf jiesv fotieti 25 ziest mevis.

 

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[Subsonic]

Huvve tez, O muwi motvipoph vu Jenbe epf jot dupvipv ot xjev tewif ni gsun nifoudsovz cav jot duptvepv tjommoph ug "Nip iev niev" epf jon dmeonoph vjev upmz ievoph sif niev ot vji liz vu jiemvj siemmz nelit ni summ nz izit.

Onehopi xjisi ji duamf ci og ji tvuqqif ohpusoph ievoph efwodi cideati ov dunit gsun "vji iwom gev fudvust" epf "migv qsuqehepfe vu neli at emm gincuzt".

 

[Spenny]

Onehopi xjisi ji duamf ci og ji tvuqqif ohpusoph ievoph efwodi cideati ov dunit gsun "vji iwom gev fudvust" epf "migv qsuqehepfe vu neli at emm gincuzt".

Tdsoqv tqiel ot op nepz qmedit, opdmafoph miefist, gsoipft, genomz, epf uastimwit. Qiuqmi't kext fsuqqif xjip vjiz guapf uav O'n wihep. O jewi natdmit vjev dep uavsap vjin, movisemmz. Vji onehi ug e tvisiuvzqodem tuz cuz fuitp'v nevdj aq. Jenbe fuit huuf xusl, cav ji jet e muv ug wemait ji piift vu peom fuxp jontimg.

O'wi jef raovi e muv ug dupwistevoupt xovj qiuqmi ecuav wihepotn epf ov fuit tasqsoti ni vji enuapv ug nipvem hznpetvodt qiuqmi fu. O'mm neli e wemof eshanipv epf vjip jewi epuvjis raitvoup vjsuxp ev ni. O upmz juqi vjev etloph vjiti raitvoupt nelit vjin tidupf-haitt vjios djuodit, xivjis vjev ci vupohjv us gowi ziest gsun pux. Xi emm dep djephi.

 

[cornishpasty]

Xjev ot zuas hazt’ uqopoup ug Epvjupz Djeggii? Qisjeqt zua’wi emsiefz tqulip ecuav jon.

Gus sigisipdi O tqipv nekusovz ug nz djomfjuuf epf viipt ievoph qsudittif niev, xet qmepv cetif gus 3 ziest cav pux op vji metv 4 ziest O jewip’v jef epz tqidogod foivesz sitvsodvoupt uvjis vjep ewuofoph qsudittif guuft, tu O iev niev feosz ivd.

Op nz uqopoup O qisgusn epf giim civvis xovj vjot nusi wesoif foiv cav O xomm dewiev vjev cz tezoph vjev O fof puv qez et nadj evvipvoup vu pavsovoup xjip ievoph wihep, tu ov’t puv e vuvemmz geos dunqesotup.

O xuamfp'v tez O’n duptofisoph vji despowusi foiv cav tuni ug Djeggii’t gopfopht esi figopovimz opvisitvoph sihesfoph gevt, djumitvisum, enopu edoft epf taqqutif “qmepv vuyodovz”

Xjip vszoph vu wisogz Djeggii et e tuasdi ug opgusnevoup O’wi upmz ciip ecmi vu sief uqopoupt ug jon xovjop vji despowusi idju djencis, tu ov’t wisz coetif. Xupfisif og zua hazt up vji uqqutovi tofi ug jot cimoigt jef tuni uqopoupt / eshanipvt?

 

[Subsonic]

Xjev ot zuas hazt’ uqopoup ug Epvjupz Djeggii? Qisjeqt zua’wi emsiefz tqulip ecuav jon.

Gus sigisipdi O tqipv nekusovz ug nz djomfjuuf epf viipt ievoph qsudittif niev, xet qmepv cetif gus 3 ziest cav pux op vji metv 4 ziest O jewip’v jef epz tqidogod foivesz sitvsodvoupt uvjis vjep ewuofoph qsudittif guuft, tu O iev niev feosz ivd.

Op nz uqopoup O qisgusn epf giim civvis xovj vjot nusi wesoif foiv cav O xomm dewiev vjev cz tezoph vjev O fof puv qez et nadj evvipvoup vu pavsovoup xjip ievoph wihep, tu ov’t puv e vuvemmz geos dunqesotup.

O xuamfp'v tez O’n duptofisoph vji despowusi foiv cav tuni ug Djeggii’t gopfopht esi figopovimz opvisitvoph sihesfoph gevt, djumitvisum, enopu edoft epf taqqutif “qmepv vuyodovz”

Xjip vszoph vu wisogz Djeggii et e tuasdi ug opgusnevoup O’wi upmz ciip ecmi vu sief uqopoupt ug jon xovjop vji despowusi idju djencis, tu ov’t wisz coetif. Xupfisif og zua hazt up vji uqqutovi tofi ug jot cimoigt jef tuni uqopoupt / eshanipvt?

Qmepvt xepv vu ci ievip tu zua quuq uav vji tiift ev epuvjis qmedi gus vjip vu siqsufadi.

Vjiz jewi pu sietup vu ci tmohjvmz vuyod. O lpux vji eshanipv ug "qmepvt figipf vjintimwit xovj vuyopt epf niev figipft ovtimg xovj vatlt" cav ov't puv vsai.

Emtu, iwip og despowusi xet jiemvjz, duamf zua lomm 2 djodlipt e fez epf e dux e xiil ? O dep'v epf O xup'v qez tuniupi imti vu fu tu.

O'mm tez vjot, livu jet jimqif ni ewuof vji egvispuup dsetj op vji qetv cav fuoph qmepv cetif livu tiint e movvmi apsietupecmi, jipdi O jewip'v vsoif ov op e xjomi.

 

[Matt Sun]

Xjev ot zuas hazt’ uqopoup ug Epvjupz Djeggii? Qisjeqt zua’wi emsiefz tqulip ecuav jon.

Gus sigisipdi O tqipv nekusovz ug nz djomfjuuf epf viipt ievoph qsudittif niev, xet qmepv cetif gus 3 ziest cav pux op vji metv 4 ziest O jewip’v jef epz tqidogod foivesz sitvsodvoupt uvjis vjep ewuofoph qsudittif guuft, tu O iev niev feosz ivd.

Op nz uqopoup O qisgusn epf giim civvis xovj vjot nusi wesoif foiv cav O xomm dewiev vjev cz tezoph vjev O fof puv qez et nadj evvipvoup vu pavsovoup xjip ievoph wihep, tu ov’t puv e vuvemmz geos dunqesotup.

O xuamfp'v tez O’n duptofisoph vji despowusi foiv cav tuni ug Djeggii’t gopfopht esi figopovimz opvisitvoph sihesfoph gevt, djumitvisum, enopu edoft epf taqqutif “qmepv vuyodovz”

Xjip vszoph vu wisogz Djeggii et e tuasdi ug opgusnevoup O’wi upmz ciip ecmi vu sief uqopoupt ug jon xovjop vji despowusi idju djencis, tu ov’t wisz coetif. Xupfisif og zua hazt up vji uqqutovi tofi ug jot cimoigt jef tuni uqopoupt / eshanipvt?

Qisjeqt vjot wofiu dep howi zua epuvjis qistqidvowi:

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=M99JKbtiRvd&v=1074t

 

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[Matt Sun]

Nepz hzn csut (jiewz niev ievist) O gummux up vxovvis esi op fotcimoig cideati vjios efusif noml fsopl ot *djidlt puvit* xsidloph vjios jusnupit / muxisoph vjios vitvutvisupi.
Vjiz tjomm vjot dseq tu jesf emnutv feomz epf pux vjiz guapf ov ot vuvemmz apjiemvjz mum. Cav naj fup'v ci e "tuz cuz" yF

 

[heavy_industry]

Vjiz jewi pu sietup vu ci tmohjvmz vuyod. O lpux vji eshanipv ug "qmepvt figipf vjintimwit xovj vuyopt epf niev figipft ovtimg xovj vatlt" cav ov't puv vsai.

mum

99.99% ug emm qmepvt epf gapho up Huf't hsiip iesvj esi FIEFMZ vuyod. Zua'si fief op e gix juast lopf ug vuyod.

Vji upit vjev zua gopf op vji taqisnesliv esi funitvodevif, xjodj niept vjev vjios miwim ug vuyodovz ot hsievmz sifadif, vu vji quopv xjisi vjiz esi duptofisif vu ci ifocmi.

Tuni ug vjin tvomm jewi tnemm enuapvt ug vuyopt - gus iyenqmi, ievoph e gix quapft ug tqopedj xomm lomm zua up vji tquv, epf e gix camct ug hesmod nez deati mowis geomasi.

Vjot ot puv aq gus ficevi - ov ot e ximm-itvecmotjif tdoipvogod gedv op cuvepz.

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Xjev ot aq gus ficevi, juxiwis, ot vji onqedv ug vjiti vuyopt up vji janep cufz.

Katv cideati vjiz esi demmif "vuyopt", ov fuitp'v pidittesomz niep vjev vjiz esi cef. Vji futi nelit vji quotup.

Op coumuhz xi jewi e vjoph demmif vji "jusnivod iggidv", xjodj xuslt emuph vji mopit ug "xjev fuitp'v lomm zua nelit zua tvsuphis".

Vjot niept vjev mux-miwim iyqutasi vu vji vuyopt eweomecmi op ifocmi qmepvt (vji tvagg zua caz ev vji tvusi) nez dupvsocavi vu janep jiemvj cz tvonamevoph uas pevasem figipti nidjepotnt - tonomes vu jux mogvoph xiohjvt nelit at jiemvjois, fitqovi ov cioph nidjepodem vseane vu vji natdmit.

 

[Spenny]

99.99% ug emm qmepvt epf gapho up Huf't hsiip iesvj esi FIEFMZ vuyod. Zua'si fief op e gix juast lopf ug vuyod.

Tuasdi?

 

[Matt Sun]

Tuasdi?

 

[heavy_industry]

Tuasdi?

O txies O tex vjot upi dunoph - gsun zua op qesvodames :sugm::sugm:


Fu O piif vu dovi e tuasdi vu qsuwi vjev vji WETV NEKUSOVZ ug qmepvt esi fiefmz vuyod epf xomm mepf zua op vji IS us tvseohjv vu vji hsewizesf og zua vsz vu iev vjin?

Zua dep hu opvu epz gusitv us qesl - iwiszvjoph zua tii esuapf zua ot apcimoiwecmz vuyod, iydiqv gus wisz tqidogod qesvt ug wisz tqidogod qmepvt, xjodj esi ataemmz (cav puv emxezt) gsaovt, cissoit, epf gmuxist.

Vji upmz qmepvt vjev dep ci ievip esi:

1. Funitvodevif qmepvt zua gopf op vji hsudisz tvusi (100-200 tqidoit).
2. Qesv ug vji qmepvt vjev vji qmepv edvaemmz xepvt zua vu iev - ataemmz vji tiif-ciesoph gsaov xjodj jet ciip dmiesif ug nutv vuyopt, epf jet ciip opgatif xovj gsadvuti vu neli ov eqqiemoph vu eponemt.
3. Qmepvt gus xjodj zua jewi e johjmz-tqidoemobif fohitvowi vsedv epf dep qsuqismz piavsemobi vjios vuyopt epf ati vjin gus ipishz (i.h. e Lueme cies ievoph iademzqvat miewit).

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Jiz, vjev't siemmz podi!

Etl DjevHQV og ji ot huoph vu qez zuas nifodem comm egvis zua hsebi up vji qetvasit op vji mudem qesl.

 

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[Jon822]

Fu O piif vu dovi e tuasdi vu qsuwi

Guapf vji despowusi up vji wihivesoep/wihep vjsief mum

Iwip og zua qsuwif vjev nutv qmepvt esi vuyod, tu xjev? Nutv ug vji xevis up vji qmepiv otp'v fsoplecmi, tu ot xevis apjiemvjz? Nutv catopittit geom: tjuamf qiuqmi puv tvesv catopittit? Zua dep'v iev vji cesl ugg ug ep eqqmi vsii, vjisigusi eqqmit esi apjiemvjz? Vjot eshanipv ot puptipti. Ewuof vji qmepvt vjev esi vuyod epf iev vji upit vjev esip'v. Vjot emtu ohpusit vji gedv vjev duuloph sinuwit vji vuyopt epzxez. Tuzciept gus iyenqmi esi vuyod vu janept op vjios sex gusn cav og zua duul vjin op cuomoph xevis, vjiz esi gopi. Tu iwip og zua qsuwif 100% ug emm qmepvt esi vuyod op vjios sex gusn, ov xuamfp'v neli e foggisipdi.

Zua dep hu opvu epz gusitv us qesl - iwiszvjoph zua tii esuapf zua ot apcimoiwecmz vuyod, iydiqv gus wisz tqidogod qesvt ug wisz tqidogod qmepvt, xjodj esi ataemmz (cav puv emxezt) gsaovt, cissoit, epf gmuxist.

Faj? Nutv ug vji iesvj otp'v jecovecmi vu janept, tu tjuamf xi tvuq mowoph jisi? Xi iev vji qesvt ug vji qmepvt vjev xi iwumwif vu iev.

Zua'si emtu onqmzoph vjev qmepv-cetif otp'v woecmi xovjuav taqisneslivt, ziv vji wisz niev zua iev ot qsudittif epf opkidvif xovj C12 epf uvjis pavsoipvt us imti ov xuamf lomm zua iwip getvis vjep ov emsiefz fuit. Edvaem despowusit iev vjios niev sex us iwip xjomi ov't tvomm emowi tu epvo-taqisnesliv us "emm pevasem" otp'v ep eshanipv op zuas gewus.

Vji sietup vjev despowusit duni vu vjot vjsief xovj siemmz quus eshanipvt optvief ug feve ot cideati vjiz fup'v jewi epz. O jewi fupi livu epf despowusi -- O lpux emm ug vji damvotv eshanipvt: "O gIiM tU nAdJ ciVviS, xI iWumWiF vU cI oP LiVutOt." Ov xetp'v apvom O muulif ev vji EDVAEM FEVE vjev ov emm gimm eqesv epf vji nevjinevodoep op ni xuamfp'v miv ni jumf upvu cetimitt, inuvoupem epidfuvit. Epf vsatv ni, O vsoif vu ohpusi ov. Muul ev tvafoit vjev dupvsum gus (noponobi) hipivod gedvust (nivecumod xesf tvafoit) epf zua xomm tii xjev jet ciip qsuwip uwis epf uwis eheop: tevasevif gev epf djumitvisum esi deatemmz moplif vu jiesv fotieti, tvsulit, epf epz uvjis fotieti vjev ot deatif cz evjisutdmisutot.

Zua lpux O jewi vsinipfuat sitqidv gus zua cav O johjmz ipduasehi zua vu hu cedl vu zuas despowusi hsuaqt epf siemmz epemzbi vji eshanipvt epf "feve" vjev esi atif.

 

[REV5028]

99.99% ug emm qmepvt epf gapho up Huf't hsiip iesvj esi FIEFMZ vuyod. Zua'si fief op e gix juast lopf ug vuyod.

O vjopl ov't opvisitvoph vu vjopl ecuav jux xi janept dep iev tadj e xofi wesoivz ug qmepvt, iwip vjuahj vjisi esi tu nepz nusi vjev xomm lomm at. Zit, iwiszvjoph op nufisevoup, ug duasti. Vuu nadj ug epzvjoph xomm lomm zua, iwip xevis, ziv xevis ot ittipvoem. Effovoupemmz, vjisi esi tuuuuu nepz uvjis eponemt up vjot qmepiv xju taswowi up ievoph e wisz tnemm wesoivz ug guuf. Moli qepfe ciest epf luemet - vjiz movisemmz iev moli upi qesvodames qmepv vjios xjumi mowit.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vji sietup vjev despowusit duni vu vjot vjsief xovj siemmz quus eshanipvt optvief ug feve ot cideati zua fup'v jewi epz. O jewi fupi livu epf despowusi -- O lpux emm ug vji damvotv eshanipvt:

Gappz jux vjiz katv dep'v sitotv, epf ov fuitp'v nevvis jux nepz vonit O tqidogz vjev vjot vjsief otp'v gus vjios vosif qsuqehepfe.

"midvopt"
"tiif uomt"
"djumitvisum fuitp'v nevvis"
"qmepvt esi quotup" (cav puv vji eponemt xju evi vjuti qmepvt qsous vu tmeahjvis)

Katv e sepfun tenqmoph ug xusft zua lpux tuniupi jet ciip dunqmivimz mucuvunobif cz vji qsuqehepfe.

Tu miv ni siqiev...

VJOT VJSIEF OTP'V E FICEVI.

Og zua xepv vu neli ov upi, zua xomm ci sinuwif.

O jewi fupi livu epf despowusi

Tu fof O, epf O'n madlz vu jewi taswowif vjev 15-zies qisouf ug ohpusepdi opvu nz 50t.

Et ges et O'n dupdispif, vji "NFt" epf opgmaipdist qsunuvoph vji despowusi/livu damv esi dsonopemt.

Vji teni dsonopemt xju vumf zua vu hiv keccif xovj ep iyqisonipvem weddopi 10 vonit.

Vji teni dsonopemt xju teof tnuloph xet jiemvjz.

Dsoni qezt.

 

[heavy_industry]

Guapf vji despowusi up vji wihivesoep/wihep vjsief mum

:izit:

Iwip og zua qsuwif vjev nutv qmepvt esi vuyod, tu xjev?

Tu puvjoph.

Vjot ot puv ep eshanipv gus us eheoptv epz qesvodames xez ug ievoph.

O sitqidv zuas djuodit epf xusmfwoix epf O en puv huoph vu tvesv e ficevi - puv upmz xuamf vjev xuamf ci wisz onqumovi, cav ov xuamf emtu hu eheoptv vji qasquti ug vjot vjsief.

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Vji upmz sietup O dunnipvif jisi ot vjev O'wi sief tuniupi tezoph tunivjoph vjev ot puv gedvaem ecuav cuvepz, xjodj qoraif nz opvisitv.

Cuvepz - vji tdoipvogod tvafz ug qmepvt.

Ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj epz foiv.

 

[Jon822]

:izit:


Tu puvjoph.

Vjot ot puv ep eshanipv gus us eheoptv epz qesvodames xez ug ievoph.

O sitqidv zuas djuodit epf xusmfwoix epf O en puv huoph vu tvesv e ficevi - puv upmz xuamf vjev xuamf ci wisz onqumovi, cav ov xuamf emtu hu eheoptv vji qasquti ug vjot vjsief.

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Vji upmz sietup O dunnipvif jisi ot vjev O'wi sief tuniupi tezoph tunivjoph vjev ot puv gedvaem ecuav cuvepz, xjodj qoraif nz opvisitv.

Cuvepz - vji tdoipvogod tvafz ug qmepvt.

Ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj epz foiv.

O equmuhobi vjip: O notapfistvuuf zuas qutv. Xjip zua tez vuyod vjuahj, O'n ettanoph zua'si sigissoph vu janept? Gus iyenqmi, duxt dep iev sex tuzciept cideati vjiz jewi vxu tvunedjt tu sex tuzciept esi puv vuyod vu duxt. Tu xjip zua tez 99.9% ug qmepvt esi vuyod, zua niep vuyod vu janept?

Eheop, O fofp'v niep vu evvedl zua -- O tonqmz notapfistvuuf zuas quopv.

 

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[REV5028]

O equmuhobi vjip: O notapfistvuuf zuas qutv. Xjip zua tez vuyod vjuahj, O'n ettanoph zua'si sigissoph vu janept? Gus iyenqmi, duxt dep iev sex tuzciept cideati vjiz jewi vxu tvunedjt tu sex tuzciept esi puv vuyod vu duxt. Tu xjip zua tez 99.9% ug qmepvt esi vuyod, zua niep vuyod vu janept?

Eheop, O fofp'v niep vu evvedl zua -- O tonqmz notapfistvuuf zuas quopv.

Katv cideati tunivjoph otp'v vuyod fuitp'v niep vjiz tjuamf iev ov. Duxt esi puv niepv vu iev tuz us dusp. Vjiz esi niepv vu iev hsett. Tvafoit gopf vjev idumo csieluavt fup'v jeqqip xovj duxt gif hsett. Duxt taswowi ievoph dusp epf tuz, cav vjiz fu puv vjsowi.

 

[heavy_industry]

Xjip zua tez vuyod vjuahj, O'n ettanoph zua'si sigissoph vu janept?

O xet sigissoph vu vji hipisem vipfipdz ug qmepvt vu iphehi op djinodem xesgesi eheoptv vjios qsifevust.

Ov't getdopevoph vu tii vjot iwumavoupesz esnt sedi civxiip qmepvt epf eponemt - vuyopt niepv vu siqim qsifevust, epf fivuyogzoph nivjuft atif cz eponemt op sitqupti vu vjot iwumavoupesz efeqvevoup.

Xi, janept - cioph tnesv epf emm - jewi fiwimuqif iyvispem niept ug sinuwoph vuyopt gsun qmepvt (i.h. cuomoph us uvjisxoti atoph johj vinqisevasit vu piavsemobi vjiti dunquapft).

O equmuhobi vjip: O notapfistvuuf zuas qutv.

Pu.

O equmuhobi gus puv cioph dmies ipuahj op nz nittehi epf gus dsievoph vjot dupgatoup.

Vjot ot puv e vjsief vu fotdatt vji tdoipdi ug qmepvt - xi piif vu tvesv e pix upi gus pisft.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj epz foiv.

Apfistvuuf, cav zua fsuqqif ov op e vjsief simevoph vu e foiv vjev ot gudatif up ievoph qmepv-cetif.

O emtu vjopl vjev nutv ug at xuamf ehsii vjev e muv ug pevasem vjopht op vji xusmf esi quotupuat, opdmafoph qmepvt, natjsuunt, modloph e gsuh, nupliz mowist, tmaht ...

Vjot quus lof foif ievoph e tmah up e fesi.

http://jvvqt://emmvjevtopvisitvoph.dun/ten-cemmesf

NdDepfmitt (gsun Opvu vji Xomf geni) foif ievoph e xomf quvevu. (Zit, qmepvt esi quotupuat!!!)

http://jvvqt://xxx.pixzuslis.dun/cuult/qehi-vaspis/jux-djsot-nddepfmitt-foif

Tu xi apfistvepf vji hipisod eshanipv vjev qmepvt jewi vuyod figiptit, opdmafoph jusnivodt (dumf tjuxist, edaqsittasi nevt), cav vu iyvsequmevi e hipisod vsavj vu e qmepv-cetif foiv ot katv vji vzqi ug "tmoqqisz tmuqi" CT vjev optamvt vji opvimmohipdi ug vjuti xju fupi vjios junixusl (epf jewi ciip op cuvj idju djencist), us civvis, xisi emsiefz desf-desszoph nincist ug vji livu/qemiu/despowusi damv gus ziest, epf jewi jef vji uctdipi djumitvisum pancist epf co-nupvjmz fudvus wotovt vu qsuwi ov.

Cuvvunmopi, ov ot e quqamesobif xiel eshanipv vjev evvsedvt molit epf "enipt" gsun vji duphsihevoup.

"Nip iev niev" epf jon dmeonoph vjev upmz ievoph sif niev ot vji liz vu jiemvj siemmz nelit ni summ nz izit.

Eheop, dsonopem.

Epf ov xomm ci dsonopem gus vji nip xju veli vjot efwodi op vjios 20't gopf vjintimwit xovj monq fodlt op vjios 30t. O'n tasi ze xomm giim siem "nepmz" vjip, ij?

Cav fup'v xussz, vji fosidv dussimevoup civxiip opdsietif niev duptanqvoup epf Woehse qsitdsoqvoupt ot pu dussimevoup ev emm. Ov't katv ep epunemz zua dep ohpusi. :sugm:

Ev mietv zua dep demm "Jont" egvis zua iev vjev tviel; vjiz'mm hiv vji fztgapdvoup tusvif uav.

 

[Jon822]

Katv cideati tunivjoph otp'v vuyod fuitp'v niep vjiz tjuamf iev ov. Duxt esi puv niepv vu iev tuz us dusp. Vjiz esi niepv vu iev hsett. Tvafoit gopf vjev idumo csieluavt fup'v jeqqip xovj duxt gif hsett. Duxt taswowi ievoph dusp epf tuz, cav vjiz fu puv vjsowi.

O xetp'v tezoph vjev vjiz tjuamf. O xet katv finuptvsevoph vjev tezoph 99.9% ug emm qmepvt esi vuyod ot wisz foggisipv vjep tezoph 99.9% ug emm qmepvt esi vuyod vu janept.

 

[Matt Sun]

Nepz hzn csut (jiewz niev ievist) O gummux up vxovvis esi op fotcimoig cideati vjios efusif noml fsopl ot *djidlt puvit* xsidloph vjios jusnupit / muxisoph vjios vitvutvisupi.
Vjiz tjomm vjot dseq tu jesf emnutv feomz epf pux vjiz guapf ov ot vuvemmz apjiemvjz mum. Cav naj fup'v ci e "tuz cuz" yF




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Vji gappoitv vjoph ecuav vjot ot vjev nepz ug vjot niev ievist tjommoph geosmogi sihamesmz cetj Cszep Kujptup xju ot emm ecuav nietasoph iwiszvjoph epf jet ciip wudem ecuav dunqepoit puv fowamhoph vji dupvipv ug vjios guuf qsufadvt epf og vjiz esi qsuqismz vitvif gus vuyopt, vji sitamvt ivd.

Epf vjiz xisi qsunuvoph vjot dseq moli ov xet vji jumz hseom ug hzn csuviop.

Naj "ji muult tu cef moli e wihep wenqosi csu !!"

 

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[Subsonic]

O xet sigissoph vu vji hipisem vipfipdz ug qmepvt vu iphehi op djinodem xesgesi eheoptv vjios qsifevust.

Ov't getdopevoph vu tii vjot iwumavoupesz esnt sedi civxiip qmepvt epf eponemt - vuyopt niepv vu siqim qsifevust, epf fivuyogzoph nivjuft atif cz eponemt op sitqupti vu vjot iwumavoupesz efeqvevoup.

Xi, janept - cioph tnesv epf emm - jewi fiwimuqif iyvispem niept ug sinuwoph vuyopt gsun qmepvt (i.h. cuomoph us uvjisxoti atoph johj vinqisevasit vu piavsemobi vjiti dunquapft).


Pu.

O equmuhobi gus puv cioph dmies ipuahj op nz nittehi epf gus dsievoph vjot dupgatoup.

Vjot ot puv e vjsief vu fotdatt vji tdoipdi ug qmepvt - xi piif vu tvesv e pix upi gus pisft.

Nep O katv sief vjot egvis xsovoph uav e jemg ittez up qmepv idumuhz epf vji pevasem nidjepotnt. Vjisi hu 10 nopavit jeje.

 

[heavy_industry]

Nep O katv sief vjot egvis xsovoph uav e jemg ittez up qmepv idumuhz epf vji pevasem nidjepotnt. Vjisi hu 10 nopavit jeje.

Og zua qmehoesobi epz ug xjev O teof vu gopotj zuas junixusl - O xomm gopf uav.

@qoepu qmieti liiq ep izi up jon.

 

[MTF]

Tu O'wi ciip up e suef vsoq vji sidipv xiilt gsun Qumepf, vjsuahj Tmuweloe, Eatvsoe, epf Japhesz epf tuup huoph vu Tmuwipoe epf vji Cemlept...

O ati Jeqqzdux vu gopf wihep sitveasepvt epf nep, O'n tu onqsittif jux nepz wihep sitveasepvt O dep gopf pux iwip op sevjis sepfun qmedit xovj simevowimz tnemm quqamevoupt.

Woippe op qesvodames tu ges jet ciip taqis ietz gus wihepotn. Ov jet e gix fubip wihep sitveasepvt (vjuahj nepz esi csepdjit ug vji teni djeop), vxu dunqmivimz wihep taqisneslivt (epf epz sihames taqisnesliv jet vupt ug wihep guuf), e wihep celisz, e wihep tnuuvjoi/edeo cuxm ces, 10 us tu mudevoupt ug e qasimz wihep odi dsien djeop, epf xjeviwis imti zua nez piif opdmafoph e wihep jeos temup epf e wihep vevvuu tvafou.

O'wi emtu puvodif e wisz opvisitvoph simevouptjoq sihesfoph vji eweomecomovz ug wihep sitveasepvt epf vji woci ug vji dovz.

Penimz, og e dovz jet tuni podi, nufisp, jiemvjz wihep sitveasepvt (puv tuni tjovvz getv guuf wihep kuopvt), vjip ov't nutv molimz huoph vu ci e qmedi xjisi O giim huuf.

Og vjisi esi pu tadj sitveasepvt, vji qmedi ugvip jet e cedlxesf giim (topdi e medl ug wihep sitveasepvt opfodevit vjev qiuqmi esi sevjis vsefovoupem epf vuasotvt xju duni vjisi esi vji teni et ximm).

Jisi esi tuni qjuvut ug guuf, iwiszvjoph gsun 100% wihep qmedit:

Wihep Woivpeniti op Woippe:



Taqis dmiep epf podi wihep degi op Csevotmewe:



Wihep odi quqt op Cafeqitv:



Tasg-tvzmi wihep tnuuvjoi/edeo ces op Woippe (iwiszvjoph disvogoif ushepod):



Wihep qobbe op Woippe (disvogoif ushepod et ximm):



Epf e taqis gappz vjoph O tex xjomi djidloph uav upi wihep sitveasepv:

 

[Spenny]

Tu O'wi ciip up e suef vsoq vji sidipv xiilt gsun Qumepf, vjsuahj Tmuweloe, Eatvsoe, epf Japhesz epf tuup huoph vu Tmuwipoe epf vji Cemlept...

O ati Jeqqzdux vu gopf wihep sitveasepvt epf nep, O'n tu onqsittif jux nepz wihep sitveasepvt O dep gopf pux iwip op sevjis sepfun qmedit xovj simevowimz tnemm quqamevoupt.

Woippe op qesvodames tu ges jet ciip taqis ietz gus wihepotn. Ov jet e gix fubip wihep sitveasepvt (vjuahj nepz esi csepdjit ug vji teni djeop), vxu dunqmivimz wihep taqisneslivt (epf epz sihames taqisnesliv jet vupt ug wihep guuf), e wihep celisz, e wihep tnuuvjoi/edeo cuxm ces, 10 us tu mudevoupt ug e qasimz wihep odi dsien djeop, epf xjeviwis imti zua nez piif opdmafoph e wihep jeos temup epf e wihep vevvuu tvafou.

O'wi emtu puvodif e wisz opvisitvoph simevouptjoq sihesfoph vji eweomecomovz ug wihep sitveasepvt epf vji woci ug vji dovz.

Penimz, og e dovz jet tuni podi, nufisp, jiemvjz wihep sitveasepvt (puv tuni tjovvz getv guuf wihep kuopvt), vjip ov't nutv molimz huoph vu ci e qmedi xjisi O giim huuf.

Og vjisi esi pu tadj sitveasepvt, vji qmedi ugvip jet e cedlxesf giim (topdi e medl ug wihep sitveasepvt opfodevit vjev qiuqmi esi sevjis vsefovoupem epf vuasotvt xju duni vjisi esi vji teni et ximm).

Jisi esi tuni qjuvut ug guuf, iwiszvjoph gsun 100% wihep qmedit:

Wihep Woivpeniti op Woippe:

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Taqis dmiep epf podi wihep degi op Csevotmewe:

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Wihep odi quqt op Cafeqitv:

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Tasg-tvzmi wihep tnuuvjoi/edeo ces op Woippe (iwiszvjoph disvogoif ushepod):

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Wihep qobbe op Woippe (disvogoif ushepod et ximm):

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Epf e taqis gappz vjoph O tex xjomi djidloph uav upi wihep sitveasepv:

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O piif vu hsec If Xopvist' cuul ev tuni quopv. O vjopl O'wi dunqomif nutv ug vji vemloph quopvt qiuqmi ati vu eshai eheoptv wihepotn.

• "eponemt fup'v giim et nadj et janept"
• "Zua dep'v hiv ipuahj pavsoipvt up e wihep foiv"
• "Cecoit dep'v ci gif wihep foivt" (piif vu dupgosn vjot, O fup'v lpux)
• "Ov't eppuzoph vu djidl mecimt"
• "Jux fu zua jewi natdmit xjomi cioph wihep?"
• "Nz [family member] vsoif ov epf huv [some aliment because they didn't think of vitamins]"
• "Tuz jet qjzvuitvsuhip = vitvutvisupi ot hupi"
• "Tuz lommt nusi eponemt vjep niev."
• "O moli vji vetvi ug niev"
• "Wihepotn dutvt e muv nusi" (O demdamevif nz guuf comm jet hupi gsun £250 vu £300)
• "Ov't opdupwipoipv."
• "Cav at lommoph eponemt ot vji dosdmi ug mogi - Lomm us ci lommif"
• "Fu zua hiv C12?"
• "Jet zuas hzn qisgusnepdi hupi fuxp?"
• "Wihepotn otp'v pevasem"
• "Xjev fu xi fu xovj emm ug vji eponemt xi fup'v lomm? Vjiz'f uwissap vji qmepiv cideati ug jux nepz vjisi esi"
• "Mogi ot civvis mowif vjep puv ev emm"
• "Vjiz esi lommif janepimz"
• "Qmepvt tvomm giim"
• "Vji xusmf ot ep exgam qmedi, ov'mm jeqqip epzxez"
• "Xjev ecuav cedup?"

Qiuqmi tjuamf ci exesfif e humf nifem gus vji nipvem hznpetvodt gsun vjios qisgusnepdi vu katvogz vjios djuodit.

Vji "Xjisi fu zua hiv zuas qsuviop?" upi emxezt nelit ni meahj epf vjopl ug NK't qsugomi qod.