The Journey of an Email Copywriter

[Wizza134]

Maybe you can help make the ConvertKit group more active? I've done that in groups before. Think about what the group owner's goals are. Can you help them achieve it?

Yeah, I could help the group be more active. I sent a request to join Convertkit and ActiveCampaign Facebook groups today.

 

[Wizza134]

Day 34

My assignments got the best of me and I didn't interact with the Kajabi group much today. But I squeezed in the time to request to join the Convertkit and ActiveCampaign Facebook group. So I'll be finding out if I got accepted when I wake up later.

 

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[Wizza134]

Day 35

So today I spent a good chunk of time in the Kajabi and ActiveCampaign Facebook groups. Convertkit still hasn't accepted my request so I will have to wait a bit longer. But today I mostly liked people's posts and congratulated them on any achievement they reached. I also set up a new campaign to cold email more eccomerce companies.

 

[Wizza134]

You're sending 5 a day? I email ecommerce brands too and the volume you need to be hitting is more like 300 a day. See below 2K sent in the last week. I get 2-3 positive replies a day and that's because of the volume. Get instantly.ai and set up automated sending/follow-ups. You can personalize the 1st email in each sequence, either do it yourself or have AI do it.

For leads I use storeleads.app there are 11M brands on there.

For script, keep it simple.

Hey Name

Personalized Compliment

Case Study / Big Promise

CTA


My reply rate is 8.2% but positive reply rate is more like 2%. So sending 5-10 a day (which I used to do btw) will never lead to results even if your scripts are awesome.

@Wizza134 DM me if you want to talk this more, I've been doing client acquisiton in ecom since June and I'm pretty clear on what works and what doesn't at this point.

Also 300 a day might sound intimidating but I spend like, 0 time on this other than responding to the positive replies and putting a new list every Sunday. It's fully automated.

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I would say at the highest yeah usually five a day.

I had no idea how to actually do more volume thank you for this. I'll send you a DM I want to talk about this a bit more.

 

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[Wizza134]

Day 36

Today I did the same as usual interacted with the Kajabi Group and Active Campaign group. Thanks to @Chx I also signed up for Instantly.ai and now have a more reliable way to Cold email and find leads. Sadly I didn't get too much done today because classes and schoolwork took up a lot of time. But hopefully, I can get more done tomorrow before and after class.

 

[Wizza134]

Day 37

So what I did today was spend a lot of time in the Kajabi Facebook group. I'm starting to get more likes and more people responding to me so that's good. Tomorrow I'm going to try to spend more time in both the Kajabi and ActiveCampaign group.

 

[Wizza134]

That's normal. Observe the posts in this forum. Have you ended up chatting to anyone in the forum even?

I'll start observing more posts in the forum. I've chatted to a couple of people on the forum but not many I'll change that.

I've always been very closed off and never really active with any social media platform. So it's a bit of an adjustment that I need to make to interact with people more everywhere.

 

[Andy Black]

Day 39

I didn't get anything done today. I was swamped with assignments that took the entire day to do. But I am ready to send out more cold emails tomorrow so I'm looking forward to that.

Check out newsletters too. They need content, and regularly.

Check out Find newsletters who want to do cross promotions - Lettergrowth and the accompanying Discord group. Even today there's people asking about ghostwriters for their newsletters.

Maybe signup to ConvertKit, Substack, Beehiiv, etc and have a wee play with them. Maybe start your own newsletter?

 

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[Wizza134]

Check out newsletters too. They need content, and regularly.

Check out Find newsletters who want to do cross promotions - Lettergrowth and the accompanying Discord group. Even today there's people asking about ghostwriters for their newsletters.

Maybe signup to ConvertKit, Substack, Beehiiv, etc and have a wee play with them. Maybe start your own newsletter?

Woah I didn't know about letter growth that's pretty cool. I never thought that I could ghostwrite for Newsletters.

I did think about making my own newsletter at some point but I was still unsure. I do have a Convertkit account so I guess I'll just start one.

I'll join their discord group and see if I can ghostwrite for anyone.

 

[Andy Black]

Woah I didn't know about letter growth that's pretty cool. I never thought that I could ghostwrite for Newsletters.

I did think about making my own newsletter at some point but I was still unsure. I do have a Convertkit account so I guess I'll just start one.

I'll join their discord group and see if I can ghostwrite for anyone.

Consider NOT joining with a goal of finding clients to ghostwrite for. Maybe start your own newsletter and go in as a peer. Figure out how to grow a newsletter, monetise a newsletter, get sponsors, publish consistently, choose a format, etc. Bounce around as a peer and see what happens. Maybe you go down the newsletter rabbithole and end up not even being a copywriter? It seems counterintuitive but I think that approach would help you get to know newsletter owners better and end up bringing more copywriting clients if you do go that route.

 

[Wizza134]

Consider NOT joining with a goal of finding clients to ghostwrite for. Maybe start your own newsletter and go in as a peer. Figure out how to grow a newsletter, monetise a newsletter, get sponsors, publish consistently, choose a format, etc. Bounce around as a peer and see what happens. Maybe you go down the newsletter rabbithole and end up not even being a copywriter? It seems counterintuitive but I think that approach would help you get to know newsletter owners better and end up bringing more copywriting clients if you do go that route.

Yeah, that would be better for me to do. I also realize I need to change my mindset when I join these groups. I'm thinking about how can I help them but I think it may be more from a selfish standpoint. When I should be joining and trying to actually be a part of a community.

Yeah, it's a possibility that I may prefer having a newsletter to copywriting. I'll make sure to be a peer in the community and connect and learn as much as I can.

 

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[Wizza134]

Discord - A New Way to Chat with Friends & Communities

Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.

discord.com

Thank you for the link but it seems to not go to the discord group. When I click the link it logs me into my discord but discord says " you find yourself in a strange place. you don't have access to any text channels or there are none in this server."

 

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[Andy Black]

Thank you for the link but it seems to not go to the discord group. When I click the link it logs me into my discord but discord says " you find yourself in a strange place. you don't have access to any text channels or there are none in this server."

Ah, I've no idea how to share a server it seems. You'll find it. It's by the same guy who created LetterGrowth.

 

[Wizza134]

Ah, I've no idea how to share a server it seems. You'll find it. It's by the same guy who created LetterGrowth.

Just found it I went on his Twitter profile and he has a link to his newsletter blueprint community.

 

[Wizza134]

Day 41

Today I spent some time in the Kajabi and ActiveCampaign Facebook groups. Afterward, I set up the campaign to send out cold emails. I'm considering investing in Anymail finder to shorten my time manually searching for emails.

I started playing around a bit with Convertkit but as I was making it I started thinking what would I make my newsletter about? I thought I could stay in Email marketing and publish content. Or I can make a newsletter about anything else I'm interested in.

 

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[Andy Black]

Day 44

Congratulated some people in the Kajabi group today no major conversations happened. In the Kajabi group chat most posts are from people looking for help regarding Kajabi issues and bugs. So since I'm not very qualified to answer those questions I'm actively looking for questions that I can actually help someone with. But usually, I interact with people who recently reached an achievement with Kajabi.

Today I worked on my newsletter and finished almost all the design portions of it. All I need is a simple logo and I can start publishing and learning to grow my newsletter.

I also decided to keep the thread as a daily thread because it helps keep me accountable. I'm able to really contemplate and look back at my day and see if it brought me any closer to my current goal.

I think you'll do better in groups as a *peer*.

Now you have a newsletter maybe focus on newsletter groups, and groups using the software(s) you're using.

 

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[Wizza134]

Man, I’m still having difficulty just being a peer, having fun, and learning in these groups. And not seeing it any other way. My mindset is still warped from what it should be. Still working on it

Yeah, I’m using Beehiiv I’ll see if I can find a group of people who also use Beehiiv or are interested in growing their newsletter.

Thank you

 

[Andy Black]

Man, I’m still having difficulty just being a peer, having fun, and learning in these groups. And not seeing it any other way. My mindset is still warped from what it should be. Still working on it

Yeah, I’m using Beehiiv I’ll see if I can find a group of people who also use Beehiiv or are interested in growing their newsletter.

Thank you

Hmm.

Maybe these might help:

HOT! - MARKETING - How to use forums (and Facebook groups)

How to use forums (and Facebook groups) I'm going to braindump some of my learnings about using Forums and Facebook groups. For those trying to "validate a need" (I kinda hate that phrase), then forums and Facebook groups are a fantastic resource. Not only do people nicely group themselves...

www.thefastlaneforum.com

MARKETING - AndyTalks with Sonny about getting his 1st digital marketing client

I had a great chat with another forum member this morning. @sonny_1080 only just started learning digital marketing 2 months ago (due to being in lockdown). He started by doing free work for a friend, then tried to cold call to get his first paying client, before finally getting a client...

www.thefastlaneforum.com

MARKETING - A chat about selling marketing services

@xShepherdx posted last week about his frustrations hiring a marketing freelancer. We've never spoken but I offered to hop on a call and chat about it. If you watch then please add your notes and I'll add them to this opening post. What's your takeaways? What will you do different going...

www.thefastlaneforum.com

 

[Wizza134]

Hmm.

Maybe these might help:

HOT! - MARKETING - How to use forums (and Facebook groups)

How to use forums (and Facebook groups) I'm going to braindump some of my learnings about using Forums and Facebook groups. For those trying to "validate a need" (I kinda hate that phrase), then forums and Facebook groups are a fantastic resource. Not only do people nicely group themselves...

www.thefastlaneforum.com

MARKETING - AndyTalks with Sonny about getting his 1st digital marketing client

I had a great chat with another forum member this morning. @sonny_1080 only just started learning digital marketing 2 months ago (due to being in lockdown). He started by doing free work for a friend, then tried to cold call to get his first paying client, before finally getting a client...

www.thefastlaneforum.com

MARKETING - A chat about selling marketing services

@xShepherdx posted last week about his frustrations hiring a marketing freelancer. We've never spoken but I offered to hop on a call and chat about it. If you watch then please add your notes and I'll add them to this opening post. What's your takeaways? What will you do different going...

www.thefastlaneforum.com

Thank you

 

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[Wizza134]

Day 45

Today I spent some time in the Kajabi Facebook group and the newsletter discord group.

I also read a bit about growing a newsletter on Resources for Newsletter Business Builders to help me understand more about what I need to do. I finished all the basic designs for my newsletter so all that's left to do is to start writing and growing.

I also found more e-commerce owners to cold email.

 

[Wizza134]

Day 48

I spent some time in the Newsletter Discord and just read and liked some people's posts. Someone mentioned a very interesting way to monetize newsletters that I never thought of. Which is offering to make a list of people for your sponsors. Finding niche newsletters is difficult so you solve the problem for them by bringing a list of other newsletters in the same niche as well as youtube channels and communities.

Interesting talk with my mom today she happens to be having problems running Facebook ads and knows I'm interested in marketing so she asked me if I wouldn't mind helping her run Facebook ads. I of course said yes who knows I may really like Facebook ads.

While you're in groups and communities, observe what you like chatting about and helping people with. Observe especially if people start tagging you.

Consider starting a newsletter when it's likely you get 20+ subscribers just by telling people (or announcing) you started.

I really put a lot of thought into this. I had a specific plan for what I wanted to start for my newsletter but now I'm not so sure. I've been observing what I say in groups and communities so far I know I enjoy talking about newsletters. In the discord, I love seeing everyone grow their newsletter and their input on certain topics to help each other. As I talked about making a newsletter with my friend my excitement was practically bursting through the screen.

 

[Wizza134]

Day 49

I spent some time in groups today mostly the newsletter chat and the Kajabi chat. I read more about newsletters but I'm still not completely sure about my niche. I'm just going to start and figure it out along the way I had a niche earlier if it doesn't work out I can always change it. I just need to focus on playing around with it and having fun and learning.

 

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[Andy Black]

Day 49

I spent some time in groups today mostly the newsletter chat and the Kajabi chat. I read more about newsletters but I'm still not completely sure about my niche. I'm just going to start and figure it out along the way I had a niche earlier if it doesn't work out I can always change it. I just need to focus on playing around with it and having fun and learning.

Also have a look at SparkLoop: The #1 Newsletter Growth Platform and other referal networks. You can earn revenue getting people to subscribe to other people's newsletters.

 

[Wizza134]

Day 50

I spent some time in the Newsletter group chat today and read more about newsletters on Resources for Newsletter Business Builders. I think I know what I'm going to publish first and how I plan on growing my newsletter and account. I was planning on growing it through Twitter because it seems to be the most popular platform for getting new subscribers through posting threads and tweets.

 

[Andy Black]

Day 50

I spent some time in the Newsletter group chat today and read more about newsletters on Resources for Newsletter Business Builders. I think I know what I'm going to publish first and how I plan on growing my newsletter and account. I was planning on growing it through Twitter because it seems to be the most popular platform for getting new subscribers through posting threads and tweets.

Why not help the Duuce Twitter account with his threads?

I found him in that Discord group and followed him on Twitter to get info about his buy/sell site Duuce - Buy and Sell Newsletters - marketplace

I'm literally the only person who liked his Tweet today.

I sent this as a DM an hour ago:


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[Wizza134]

Why not help the Duuce Twitter account with his threads?

I found him in that Discord group and followed him on Twitter to get info about his buy/sell site Duuce - Buy and Sell Newsletters - marketplace

I'm literally the only person who liked his Tweet today.

I sent this as a DM an hour ago:

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I didn't realize he was doing a twitter posting challenge. I saw him in the discord and his newsletter marketplace. I'll make sure to help him out.

 

[Wizza134]

Day 51

So today I spent time in the newsletter discord and went on a couple of people's Twitter profiles and liked and commented on their posts.

I read

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1587069359171698689

View: https://twitter.com/nathanbaugh27/status/1587069359171698689?s=20
by Nathan Baugh which detailed his steps to grow his newsletter. So I'm also going to try posting 1 tweet a day and 2 threads a week on Twitter.

When I saw his newsletter it instantly inspired me, because my newsletter is going to be in the same niche as his.

 

[Wizza134]

Day 52

So I posted my first tweet on Twitter recently and did a couple of touchups to my account (still getting there) but so far going well. I haven't written my welcome email yet so tomorrow I'm going to make sure to get that done.

I read

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633727823818153984

View: https://twitter.com/HabitExamples/status/1633727823818153984?s=20
by Kody and what he did to increase his welcome email replies. I found him in the Newsletter discord he seems to be a pretty cool guy.

So the challenge after the welcome email is going to be content. I know what the first thing I'm publishing is going to be about and I'm pretty excited to write it. But I wonder if I'm going to be able to keep coming up with ideas for a topic each week and how to plan ahead with the content for each week.

 

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[Wizza134]

Day 53

Finished the welcome email but having a bit of a problem with Beehiivs formatting which is making it look a bit weird on mobile so I'm planning on fixing that tomorrow. I'm going to share my newsletter in the discords share your newsletter chat and publish my first post to get it ready and sent by Saturday.

I'm really studying the format of other newsletters to make sure it's in a format that makes it easy for the readers to read and enjoy.

 

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[Wizza134]

Day 56

I spent some time in the Newsletter Discord and interacted with some of their Twitter accounts. But I changed my one-line description to something that would fit my Newsletter more. Maybe I was overthinking it but it took me quite a while to find one that works best for me.

I continued writing my first post which should be released Sunday.

I need to post on Twitter more I did one post and just went ghost for a couple of days. So I need to make sure I just take like 5 minutes out of my day and just write a quick post.