[TFLF Call Replay] - For teens & students getting started

[Andy Black]

Rats I didn’t make it— it’s about to end. I’ll have to listen to the recording.

We ended up chatting for a couple of hours. The recording is processing on Zoom at the moment. Tomorrow I'll post it to YouTube and Soundcloud.

 

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[DreamLund]

Fantastic intiative from both Andy and Lawtiti

Loved every second of it, pure value!

 

[PRT]

Thanks for the call Andy & Lawtiti! I had my mindset shifted a ton.

Here are the notes on the tidbits that I picked up during the call:

The One Thing - Solve the One Thing that’s holding you back right now avoid overthinking and solving all of your future problems

Just go do it - execution is not planning and researching everything beforehand, you’re not working on a school project, you must learn by doing

I’m not good enough - ”Before I make websites for other people I need to make a website for myself” - Just say “I’m good enough because I say I am”

Interact more - Let everyone know what you’re doing then ask: Do you know anyone who needs help with this

Good question to ask yourself starting out: how can you make 1 sale this week?

The skill teens should learn: communication - “People buy from people”, take an interest in other people

Stopping procrastination - Hop on accountability call (good resource: focusmates.com)

These were the main ideas I picked up when I asked my question:

Cold calls go into the void unlike a thread that will show goodwill - help people and be seen helping people and people will come to you

Maybe instead of cold calling: Go into facebook groups help people, and then give value for free

Thanks everyone for the meeting!

 

[Andy Black]

Thanks for the call Andy & Lawtiti! I had my mindset shifted a ton.

Here are the notes on the tidbits that I picked up during the call:

The One Thing - Solve the One Thing that’s holding you back right now avoid overthinking and solving all of your future problems

Just go do it - execution is not planning and researching everything beforehand, you’re not working on a school project, you must learn by doing

I’m not good enough - ”Before I make websites for other people I need to make a website for myself” - Just say “I’m good enough because I say I am”

Interact more - Let everyone know what you’re doing then ask: Do you know anyone who needs help with this

Good question to ask yourself starting out: how can you make 1 sale this week?

The skill teens should learn: communication - “People buy from people”, take an interest in other people

Stopping procrastination - Hop on accountability call (good resource: focusmates.com)

These were the main ideas I picked up when I asked my question:

Cold calls go into the void unlike a thread that will show goodwill - help people and be seen helping people and people will come to you

Maybe instead of cold calling: Go into facebook groups help people, and then give value for free

Thanks everyone for the meeting!

Thanks for your notes. I'm curious what everyone elses takeaways are, and what they might do different.

 

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[Andy Black]

Video is processing on YouTube.
I'm heading to bed now!

View: https://youtu.be/6p3tDtYnl7s

 

[Chet Shen]

My takeaways:
-Help people.
-Learn from action
-Communication is the number one thing to learn when in teen years
-What is the number one thing to do today?



Notes from the AMAZING call:

Problems:
-If you're stuck, ask yourself: "If I only have one question what would I ask? What's the ONE thing I need to do?
->Makes things unnecessary & easy to figure out
-What's the problem right in front of me?
->Overthinking is the art of solving problems you don't have
-Sometimes you have to ask yourself one simple question to get you unstuck
-> e.g. have you made any sales yet?

School:
-You are trained to research, format, hand in once and get it marked
->School is about Go away & study ->format ->write down ->rearrange
- You get no chance to redo it
-> It's more on learning, but you have to APPLY it. Learn from action.
-We've been trained to research and to get certifications
-We've been conditioned to learn/research/find certifications
->Imposter syndrome - no confidence on yourself
-School is not fit for business
-> School conditioned you to plan everything first, plan this and that before you even begin
->just start learning from taking action
-Don't overrate grades. Focus on providing value and helping other people.

Helping People:
-People think they're not confident enough
-just help people
->Just let people know
->Ask the people around you, do you need help? Do you know anyone who needs help?

-Don't learn from books, you haven't learn something yet unless you applied it/ taken action.

-Get out there, try to help people. Even for free

-Put people first. Money is proof of helping people

-Andy Black asks himself everyday:
->Is this what I'm doing will help anyone? Am I helping one by doing this?

-Have diesel & coffee.
->Diesel meaning transport, to get there. Coffee meaning chatting, having something in common to chat about.
->Doesn't have to be in person
->When @Andy Black talks to people:
->he doesn't have an agenda & he leans into a topic that they are interested in.
->Something that can spark them up. Encourage people to chat.
->He's positive and "lives in a sunny little world" lol

-Help/serve people. Figure out how to get paid. figure out how to help/serve more people.
->Don't be naive
->Book called "Give and Take" by Adam Grant. There are three types of people:
->There are 3 types of people: Givers (people who gives), Matchers (people mirrors you) and Takers (people who takes)
->People who give, don't give too much. Don't be a doormat.

-Put people first. Focus on other people

-Never worry about numbers. Help one person at a time and always start with the person closest to you.

-Everyone has challenges, see how you can help out.

Opinions on drop shipping :
-Drop shipping leans more on "selling the dream"
-> Usually doesn't fulfill needs
->First thing that people go to but usually doesn't add value
->Good experience to learn business
->Don't go drop shipping because of those "youtube videos"
-It's how you start. Are you helping people? Why are you doing this?
-> To solve a need in your area? In the world? Or just fulfill your dream of making passive income?
-It's another means to deliver value


Limiting Self Beliefs :
-If you don't think you're enough, just say you're enough cuz you say you're enough
-People don't start business because they don't think they're smart enough
- Problem -> Theory -> result -> assess
-You're enough, just do it
->First things first. Do the thing that is right in front of you
-Go have conversations with people
- Don't do something because of people saying that you have to do this or that
->Are you sure you have to do this?
->Limiting beliefs


"Sales" :
-All about I'm here to help and relax you
-Eat what you kill
-Sales is a screening process
->Finding the one who is interested and those who don't
-4 things to get referrals:
->Say what you're gonna do, be on time, be competent and have manners.



Finding needs:
-How can I help or create a product for this problem?
->Go on facebook/ nextdoor/ any social media app & see what people are talking about
->e.g. Dogs missing ~Can you invent a product? Thief breaking homes ~ Can you invent an alarm?
-You can use facebook ads/ ads spend to presell before you even order
-> arbitrage
-You will find your need when you get out of your comfort zone


Teenagers:
What skills should teens learn first?
Communication
-People buy from PEOPLE - not salesman
-> IF you can chat and enjoy, its good
->Have an interest to talk about
->People will match up your expectations. If you thinking people are interesting, they will be.
->Just enjoy life
-You don't NEED to be employed first to start a biz
-There's nothing wrong with a job
->Just help people



Procrastination:
Procrastination and Perfection are like little cousins:
->Procrastination: Put off starting
->Perfection: Put off finishing

Procrastination:
->Listen to your gut. What do you don't want or don't like?
->A little bit of knowing yourself a bit
->You could be scared of something -> Just accept it
- Am I doing people a disservice by not doing that?

Quitting Your Job:
-Keep your job and keep working until your business income matches to what your job gives
->When your business income is more than your expenses
-If you quit now, how can you last?




Awesome books and websites to visit:
Website - Alignable - small business networking
Website - AndyBlack.net - Andy Black's website
Books - Give and take by Adam Grant - About givers and takers

 

[Tomco]

Bummed that I've missed this call, but will definitely check out the recording! Thank you Andy and the others for taking your time in producing this!

 

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[Andy Black]

Expanding on what was mentioned in the call:

1. Spend your money on diesel and coffee
2. When your back's against the wall...
3. How to use forums (and Facebook groups)
4. What do you need?
5. Sales is a screening process
6. Just start already
7. Clarity of Purpose (Get Your Goal Right)
8. Stop Building Stuff

 

[Len_1590]

Expanding on what was mentioned in the call:

1. Spend your money on diesel and coffee
2. When your back's against the wall...
3. How to use forums (and Facebook groups)
4. What do you need?
5. Sales is a screening process
6. Just start already
7. Clarity of Purpose (Get Your Goal Right)
8. Stop Building Stuff

It seems like the first link "Spend your money on diesel and coffee" doesn't seem to work.
It could be a me issue though

 

[Andy Black]

It seems like the first link "Spend your money on diesel and coffee" doesn't seem to work.
It could be a me issue though

Fixed! Thanks for letting me know.

 

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[Timo.]

Ah sadly I missed the call but I will listen to the recording today

I love the idea of such calls. And massive respect towards you for spending your time helping us!

Thanks in advance

 

[Spenny]

Thanks all, great session. Here are my biggest takeaways:

- "I am enough". You can do it, don't knock yourself down a peg believing you can't
- you don't need to "learn" before you start. Just do & you'll pick it up.
- be aware of people putting limiting beliefs on you, you shouldn't "need" to do anything before you get started. (e.g go get a job to start a business, some some experience first)

 

[Vasudev Soni]

Hi all.

@Lawtiti created a Meetup Thread a few days ago and had a Zoom call with @ZCP who gave advice on getting started etc.

I offered to do a Zoom where I'll go through some of the main things I think holds people back when getting started, and how to get over them.

Feel free to bring questions or ask them in this thread.

If you're interested in joining then just reply below.

I'll record it and post it to this thread.

It will start at 10pm Dublin time (9pm GMT I believe). Knowing me it will likely go on for more than an hour.

EDIT: I've created a Calendly link to the call HERE.

EDIT2: Video uploaded here:

View: https://youtu.be/6p3tDtYnl7s

Thanks for uploading the video. Learned a lot from it.

 

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[ErickMendez]

I wasn't in the call but from the youtube video alone it gives you a bunch of amazing ideas.

Just here to say thanks for uploading and sharing your content with us.

 

[farahead]

My key takeaways


In school you are taught that you only have 1 attempt, therefor you master everything and spend exessive amouts of time learning. You cannot learn from your mistakes and redo it.
In business its completely different. You act, get feedback (assess), you adjust your strategy. (3As system)
You cannot get paid for what you have learned, you are paid for the output.


Overthinking creates problems you dont have yet. I dont know X, what if Y, i never worked with Z.
Stop it and just act.
Just say to yourself I am enough.


Money is proof you helped someone.
Help people. Get paid. Help more people.
Be a giver. Train the help muscle
Is the thing im doing right now going to help someone?



Dont come across as "salesy", be a peer to people.
Be geniunely interested in people.
Make effort to meet them.

Resources mentioned:
The one thing - gary w keller
(do the most important thing, dont get stuck designing logo and a slogan. Do the thing will make the most difference

Give and take - Adam Grant
Be a giver, help people and they will help you. (on bottom and on the top of any company there are givers, to be the giver on top you must also regulate your giving - dont keep giving to someone who never gave u anything back)


Focusmate - Virtual coworking for getting anything done
you will be randomly paired up with someone and have a meeting with them, good accountability system and also to meet people. (you both say what you want to accomplish during the meeting, can be 25, 50 or 75 minutes) and you work together

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[ZCP]

Nice work @Andy Black !

For those that were on the call .... get to F*cking work. start helping people. start DOING.
Andy invested in you so you would go out and create / do / help.

you don't need to read another damn word. you don't need to process. you need to go TAKE ACTION and HELP OTHERS.
let's go. get to it.

but zane! i don't know what to do! ...... good. go help one person.
but zane! i know what to do, i just don't know how to do it ....... good. find one person that does it and go help them.
but zane! i want to make more excuses ........ good. that means your bitch voice is scared. it's afraid you are about to do something amazing and is doing its best to hold you back. listen to your boss voice. go get something done. now.


(@BigRomeDawg maybe we can borrow some of andy's stuff? and remind me to do a video of this post)
@Andy Black let's you and I do podcast later this week? maybe @BigRomeDawg can moderate?

 

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[Andy Black]

(@BigRomeDawg maybe we can borrow some of andy's stuff? and remind me to do a video of this post)

Go for it.

On my end, now I did this call I have ideas of tighter content pieces I can put out there and help more people - one at a time.

@Andy Black let's you and I do podcast later this week? maybe @BigRomeDawg can moderate?

Coolio. Let's do it.

 

[ZCP]

@Andy Black hire @BigRomeDawg 's people .... they'll handle it all. good team.
you can then focus ALL your time on growing the business, teaching your kids, and making amazing content!

 

[Andy Black]

@Andy Black hire @BigRomeDawg 's people .... they'll handle it all. good team.
you can then focus ALL your time on growing the business, teaching your kids, and making amazing content!

I actually want to do the work myself. It's more a hobby for me in an evening. Also, when I do the work, including editing, I learn better how to deliver. An example is redoing a Google Ads look-over-my-shoulder video this week. I've done two takes and edits over two evenings and will do it again this evening with new learnings. It's helping me hone my process, plus I enjoy it. I think @Fox also decided to do his own scripting, recording, and editing so he could learn the process better.

 

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[Andy Black]

I wasn't in the call but from the youtube video alone it gives you a bunch of amazing ideas.

Just here to say thanks for uploading and sharing your content with us.

You're welcome.

Curious what your main takeaways were and what you'll do differently going forward.

 

[PRT]

Nice work @Andy Black!

For those that were on the call .... get to F*cking work. start helping people. start DOING.
Andy invested in you so you would go out and create / do / help.

you don't need to read another damn word. you don't need to process. you need to go TAKE ACTION and HELP OTHERS.
let's go. get to it.

After the call I joined a couple facebook groups, I got someone interested for a free website.

I'm working on it right now. Even if I'm not getting paid for it, at the very least I'm getting experience, a portfolio website to show to others, I'm helping someone in a fb community, and I could possibly get referrals.

Let's go, get up and take action. Start delivering, you're good enough already.

 

[Andy Black]

After the call I joined a couple facebook groups, I got someone interested for a free website.

I'm working on it right now. Even if I'm not getting paid for it, at the very least I'm getting experience, a portfolio website to show to others, I'm helping someone in a fb community, and I could possibly get referrals.

Let's go, get up and take action. Start delivering, you're good enough already.

Good work.

Help people, and be seen helping people. Good things start happening.

What type of Facebook group was the person in who raised their hand?

 

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[Andy Black]

Love the new avatar, and that I presume you're now using your real name @Chet Shen.


I just wanted to correct this:

Eat while you kill

It's "Eat what you kill".

If you've the ability to get out there and make sales then you'll relax, which helps you make sales anyway.

It's similar to the line "Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for life."

 

[Chet Shen]

Love the new avatar, and that I presume you're now using your real name @Chet Shen.


I just wanted to correct this:

It's "Eat what you kill".

If you've the ability to get out there and make sales then you'll relax, which helps you make sales anyway.

It's similar to the line "Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for life."

YES! It's a photo that my mum took of me when I was in a swimming competition. I loved swimming in Malaysia(Where I came from)and now it's expensive since I live in Sydney(cost of living is WAY too high here).

Lol yea my real name is Chet Shen as I want to follow you putting your real name. Cuz there's nothing to hide, my journey started so no need to hide such insignificant information. But don't worry, I won't post my address and my debit card number

Aha I see, sorry I heard it wrong. Must have been some stupid brain error lol. So it's about doing it yourself. Once you make a sale, once you put in the effort, once you are willing to learn, you get to reward yourself with the result(Better life, better skills, better friends, so on).

I see, thank you @Andy Black will correct it now

 

[Andy Black]

There's a load of questions I didn't answer, and whenever I hop on calls I realise I could talk for ages.

I'm thinking of trying to answer questions one at a time or in groups in short videos or something. Or maybe try to do a load in an hour one evening?

And maybe audio version for those who might prefer to listen on the go?

Curious what format folks would prefer.

 

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[Chet Shen]

There's a load of questions I didn't answer, and whenever I hop calls I realise I could talk for ages.

I'm thinking of trying to answer questions one at a time or in groups in short videos or something. Or maybe try to do a load in an hour one evening?

And maybe audio version for those who might prefer to listen on the go?

Curious what format folks would prefer.

Just another call again that will be great. A call with teenagers that asked that question. Love that call! Would love to join again!

 

[Andy Black]

Just another call again that will be great. A call with teenagers that asked that question. Love that call! Would love to join again!

I'm curious if people who attended or watched the replay can now take a better stab at answering their own questions.

Maybe write them up here and let's see if the call helped you.

 

[PRT]

Good work.

Help people, and be seen helping people. Good things start happening.

What type of Facebook group was the person in who raised their hand?

As you suggested in our conversation on TFF (writing it here as well for others), I've joined a couple local business groups as well as "sideways" services groups, such as Copywriting, Google Ads, Facebook ads, etc.

They were from a local area business group.

 

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[BellaPippin]

There's a load of questions I didn't answer, and whenever I hop on calls I realise I could talk for ages.

I'm thinking of trying to answer questions one at a time or in groups in short videos or something. Or maybe try to do a load in an hour one evening?

And maybe audio version for those who might prefer to listen on the go?

Curious what format folks would prefer.

Honestly I’ll kill for anything worthwhile to listen while on the elliptical. Just got home from my month trip to Argentina so I’ll be listening to the call as soon as I get to the gym.

 

[Andy Black]

Honestly I’ll kill for anything worthwhile to listen while on the elliptical. Just got home from my month trip to Argentina so I’ll be listening to the call as soon as I get to the gym.

Got it. I'll upload the call from Sunday to my SoundCloud!