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I just completed a course on UDEMY for SEO beginners and it has peaked my interest in that field. Are there any sources where I could go deeper in SEO,SEM, copywriting and digital marketing? Also, if I get better at these skills, is it beneficial to me as a freelancer or as a business? Would it land any jobs in the future? Just curious.
 
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The subreddit /r/seo is where most newbies hang out.

In my opinion, the best way to learn more is to register a few domains and build some sites of your own; conduct experiments and utilize free tools when needed. You don't need to pay for any unless you've got clients or are looking to invest heavily in your online business.
 

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The subreddit /r/seo is where most newbies hang out.

In my opinion, the best way to learn more is to register a few domains and build some sites of your own; conduct experiments and utilize free tools when needed. You don't need to pay for any unless you've got clients or are looking to invest heavily in your online business.
I have little knowledge about building a web design. Is there any other way I can experiment with those skills? Or should I learn web design as well?
 

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I have little knowledge about building a web design. Is there any other way I can experiment with those skills? Or should I learn web design as well?

It's best to pick one skill and go all in on that. If you're still unsure on your final path and want to try learning web design too, I'm no expert and wouldn't know where to start there; maybe a designer here can point you in the right direction.

Most SEOs do fine by using WordPress as a CMS and installing a pre-made theme.
 
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It's best to pick one skill and go all in on that. If you're still unsure on your final path and want to try learning web design too, I'm no expert and wouldn't know where to start there; maybe a designer here can point you in the right direction.

Most SEOs do fine by using WordPress as a CMS and installing a pre-made theme.
I have decided to go all in on SEO, if I want to help someone with any SEO problems, how should I find them? Is there a reddit thread for that too?
 

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@SEOguy is right. I finished making my own website and doing my own SEO and it really is trial and error. Yoast SEO is super helpful and if you don't want to deal with coding, finding a theme with a page builder for WordPress is super helpful!
 
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I have decided to go all in on SEO, if I want to help someone with any SEO problems, how should I find them? Is there a reddit thread for that too?
Go to targeted facebook groups about SEO or digital marketing and help one person at a time for the next 30days... You will surely land 1-3 clients this way.

The key is to be seen helping people publicly and adding value to them with zero expectations of them contacting you.

P.S: I learnt this strategy from @Andy Black
 
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You should've checked the subreddit, every other thread is someone needing help. But more importantly, how can you help them when you have no first-hand knowledge?
I mean, once I am done researching and studying SEO and digital marketing, I’ll start helping them, I just wanted to know where should I be looking for them. I’m still in the process of learning, I’ve just completed one course..and still have a long way to go. Giving myself at least 6 months before I start looking for clients.
 
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@SEOguy is right. I finished making my own website and doing my own SEO and it really is trial and error. Yoast SEO is super helpful and if you don't want to deal with coding, finding a theme with a page builder for WordPress is super helpful!
Thanks @Beerbread. I’ll start with wordpress then, and what are the other tools I can use for SEO? I’ve heard of SEMRUSH and YOAST SEO.
 

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What is the difference between them? Are they correlated? Does learning one of them help me with the other?
Maybe don’t make it your goal to “learn” and instead make it your goal to help? Find someone who needs more online leads or sales and offer to help them?
 

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Maybe don’t make it your goal to “learn” and instead make it your goal to help? Find someone who needs more online leads or sales and offer to help them?
Well, what if I screw up and get a bad first impression? Are you saying I should help someone I know? Or help someone I find on the internet?
 

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Help someone, and learn along the way. I think I should try doing that instead of focusing on being perfect before I start something.
Exactly.

1) Learn by doing.

2) You’re doing people a disservice by needing to feel like you’re an expert before you help them.

Focus on helping people and you get out of your own way.

You might like this:
 

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Exactly.

1) Learn by doing.

2) You’re doing people a disservice by needing to feel like you’re an expert before you help them.

Focus on helping people and you get out of your own way.

You might like this:
Thanks Andy, I'm 15 minutes into the conversation, and it's already insightful. Although, I have to ask this. Do I pick a specific niche to help people with? Or just start helping with anything they need help with? Taking your advice, I've already started replying to threads on reddit, would soon join quora as well.
 

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Thanks Andy, I'm 15 minutes into the conversation, and it's already insightful. Although, I have to ask this. Do I pick a specific niche to help people with? Or just start helping with anything they need help with? Taking your advice, I've already started replying to threads on reddit, would soon join quora as well.
Business is simple:
  1. Help people.
  2. Get paid.

If you’re not used to helping people (and I do include entertaining people in here), then start anywhere, even just holding doors open etc.

If you want to get better at XYZ and be positioned as an “XYZ Guy” in a community:
  1. Talk about XYZ (not all the time!)
  2. Help people with XYX.
  3. Be SEEN to help people with XYZ.
 
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Business is simple:
  1. Help people.
  2. Get paid.

If you’re not used to helping people (and I do include entertaining people in here), then start anywhere, even just holding doors open etc.

If you want to get better at XYZ and be positioned as an “XYZ Guy” in a community:
  1. Talk about XYZ (not all the time!)
  2. Help people with XYX.
  3. Be SEEN to help people with XYZ.
And also, keep learning something new about xyz everyday.
 

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And also, keep learning something new about xyz everyday.
Maybe. I don’t try to learn something new everyday. I help someone, somehow, every day though.
 

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Maybe. I don’t try to learn something new everyday. I help someone, somehow, every day though.
I just wanna help people, and get good at solving problems of a particular niche..thus polishing my skills in that field. Is that a viable thing to do?
Recently I got a DM from someone on reddit asking me to look into why his site isn’t getting much traffic. I’m thinking to this for a while for free, and get noticed solving their problems.
 
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I just wanna help people, and get good at solving problems of a particular niche..thus polishing my skills in that field. Is that a viable thing to do?
Recently I got a DM from someone on reddit asking me to look into why his site isn’t getting much traffic. I’m thinking to this for a while for free, and get noticed solving their problems.

Make a SEO audit on video. Go over everything that's wrong, explain how you'd fix it, and how it is helpful. Do a great job. Then send it to the person, and if they think you've been helpful ask them if you can share it with other people who might find it helpful.
 

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What @Madame Peccato said. Send them a 5 minute Loom video and ask what they’re thoughts are.

Alternately, ask them to ask in public so you can answer in public.
 

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What @Madame Peccato said. Send them a 5 minute Loom video and ask what they’re thoughts are.

Alternately, ask them to ask in public so you can answer in public.
Thanks Andy and Madame Peccato, that's been really helpful. I'm planning(not sure yet) to move to a new country, maybe this skill(of helping someone rather than learning something new) might help me there.
 
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Oh, that's great news! Tell us a little about the IDEM courses for beginners in the field of SEO. I fully understand your high interest in this field, as I myself studied SEO in Sydney, but only at an entry level. I believe that SEO is now one of the leading areas. Thus, I am convinced that there will always be jobs in this area in the future. I think that the Internet is full of information on this topic, so it will not be difficult for you to find it. Whether you are a freelancer or a businessman, SEO skills will always be useful to you in your work. You can also search for books on Amazon. By the way, if you find a useful education, share it with us
 

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SEO is a very broad field and you will need to turn your bullshit meter on. 90% of what you read will be crap and won't move a needle in SERPS. The 10% that works will come from trying out things yourself and finding what actually works. You can net thousands of dollars in affiliate or AdSense revenues if you get your SEO game right.

Visit blackhatworld.com, mathewwoodward.co.uk and get the real knowledge of what SEO is at the moment. Try a lot of things out. Better than knowledge is applied Knowledge. I did it and you can do it too.
 

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I don't normally take issue with Andy Black advice but encouraging someone to take on SEO clients after only doing one course sounds a bit like sending in a plumber who only just learned what a wrench is for. What's the worst that can happen?

Unlike Google Ads, where the downside is wasted money, an inexperienced SEO can quickly tank a website leading to months of repair work for even an experienced SEO. Even if the site wasn't ranking, you can still be making a situation much worse.

There is a plague of "pay me and I'll learn how to do a good job" types in this industry already. We don't need any more.

I think SEOguy's and other's suggestion that you build and rank some of your own properties is a much more responsible way of approaching/entering into this business.
 
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I don't normally take issue with Andy Black advice but encouraging someone to take on SEO clients after only doing one course sounds a bit like sending in a plumber who only just learned what a wrench is for. What's the worst that can happen?

Unlike Google Ads, where the downside is wasted money, an inexperienced SEO can quickly tank a website leading to months of repair work for even an experienced SEO. Even if the site wasn't ranking, you can still be making a situation much worse.

There is a plague of "pay me and I'll learn how to do a good job" types in this industry already. We don't need any more.

I think SEOguy's and other's suggestion that you build and rank some of your own properties is a much more responsible way of approaching/entering into this business.
Currently working on my own blog. It's on a local server right now since there are still some tweaks pending. After i take it live(do i need to buy a domain?) I'd work on it's seo.
 

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Sounds like the course skipped some steps...

Yes. Get it live and start getting noticed by Google.

And don't take any seo clients until you have a strategy that consistently gets first page rankings.

I took me about 6 months to figure out mine, and another 6 months to feel confident enough to take clients. But that was 10 years ago and I didn't trust any courses. Mine was total trial and error. You can get there faster.
 

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