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KushShah9492

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Sounds like the course skipped some steps...

Yes. Get it live and start getting noticed by Google.

And don't take any seo clients until you have a strategy that consistently gets first page rankings.

I took me about 6 months to figure out mine, and another 6 months to feel confident enough to take clients. But that was 10 years ago and I didn't trust any courses. Mine was total trial and error. You can get there faster.
It did actually, it didn’t mention whether you need to get a domain or not, they just randomly start by assuming you already HAVE your own website, which was annoying. What I was asking btw was that, if I buy a domain, how do I can I still make changes on the local server? Could I make any changes at all once it goes live? I’m sorry if it sounds stupid.
 
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It did actually, it didn’t mention whether you need to get a domain or not, they just randomly start by assuming you already HAVE your own website, which was annoying. What I was asking btw was that, if I buy a domain, how do I can I still make changes on the local server? Could I make any changes at all once it goes live? I’m sorry if it sounds stupid.
You don't sound stupid. You sound new. It's ok. And honestly, I usually start with a website already built (my business partner handles the builds). We can't all be masters of everything.

Yes, for starters you can point your domain to your local server, if you feel like you can handle security aspects of managing your own server. As long as it has enough resources to handle the traffic you generate.

Yes you can make changes to your hearts content. Eventually, once you've built a head of steam, there will be changes you want to make infrequently. But you'll learn the what's and why's of that with experience.

Which is why it is so important for SEOs to have their own websites to test things on before trying it on client sites. Good luck to you.
 

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SEO is a very broad field and you will need to turn your bullshit meter on. 90% of what you read will be crap and won't move a needle in SERPS. The 10% that works will come from trying out things yourself and finding what actually works. You can net thousands of dollars in affiliate or AdSense revenues if you get your SEO game right.

Visit blackhatworld.com, mathewwoodward.co.uk and get the real knowledge of what SEO is at the moment. Try a lot of things out. Better than knowledge is applied Knowledge. I did it and you can do it too.
I'm enjoying this matthew woodward site right now. I'd never heard of the guy before.

So I had a question about seo tools in the back of my mind I've been meaning to research, when I clicked on a site, I found an article about it and got my answer.

I've read three or four of his other articles and picked up a tip or two, too. Good stuff. Thanks for mentioning it.
 

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FWIW, I had great SEO success through earned media - that is, getting legitimate media coverage for my startup, thus earning quality backlinks. That, coupled with key words both on my site and in the articles linking back to my site, were very powerful in launching me to the top of SERPs. Don't discount the power of legit media in SEO.
 
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KushShah9492

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FWIW, I had great SEO success through earned media - that is, getting legitimate media coverage for my startup, thus earning quality backlinks. That, coupled with key words both on my site and in the articles linking back to my site, were very powerful in launching me to the top of SERPs. Don't discount the power of legit media in SEO.
What media are you talking about specifically?
 

KushShah9492

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Like when a reporter writes an article about you and links your website in their article, or a TV station does a spot on you, etc.
That would take quite some time to actually get in the eyes of the media. Probably promote my work on Socials first?
 
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Here's a FREE course for you in SEO:

The bulk work of SEO is found in doing keywords research. Yup. Not in building links.

Once you've figured out how to do keywords research well, then move over to mastering how to do searchers intent well.

When starting out in keywords research, focus on getting KD 0 keywords. Not KD 1, 2... 60 but KD 0. Why? Because you'll rank faster to be able to kick in your feedback loop.

For your first 6 months, write up to 50 - 150 blog posts on all those KD 0 keywords. On ahrefs, your organic traffic will be in the range of 1K - 10K monthly traffic (using ahrefs metrics). The best way to monetize your site in this period of 6 months is through Google AdSense.

After your 6months, you can decide to do whatever you want. If you want to build backlinks, you can. If you want to go into affiliate marketing, you can as well.

For a new website, the fastest ways to build links are:
1. Directory submissions.
2. Forum/blog comments(don't spam though).
3. Profile links.
4. Guest posting (you will need to learn how to scale this to save you time and frustration).

If you have made friends in your niche, you can also do link exchanges with them.

The summary of the whole "SEO" stuff is:

Step 1: Keywords research
Step 2: Check the DA/PA of the top ranking sites to judge if you can compete. If they are too high, go back to step 1.
Step 3: work on search intent.
Step 4: Give a damn good m*therf*cking article that will cause confusion to Google bots.
Step 5: Step 5 should be to build backlinks to those existing pages but since our strategy is to Target KD 0 keywords in bulk, F it.
Step 6: Let your internal linking game be so golden that sites like Wikipedia will learn from your own site..lol.
Step 7: Chill.

If you don't rank then the problem will always be from keywords research or failing to fulfil searchers intent.

I got everything I know now from reading ahrefs blog. Everything out there won't tell you the complete truth except from ahrefs. I also watched all their videos on their YouTube channel.

What I am trying to say is that if you want to learn SEO, go to ahrefs blog posts/videos.

My advice is for you to also learn to master how to use their tools perfectly. If you know how to use ahrefs well, your results will be shown on the Google SERPs.
 

KushShah9492

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Here's a FREE course for you in SEO:

The bulk work of SEO is found in doing keywords research. Yup. Not in building links.

Once you've figured out how to do keywords research well, then move over to mastering how to do searchers intent well.

When starting out in keywords research, focus on getting KD 0 keywords. Not KD 1, 2... 60 but KD 0. Why? Because you'll rank faster to be able to kick in your feedback loop.

For your first 6 months, write up to 50 - 150 blog posts on all those KD 0 keywords. On ahrefs, your organic traffic will be in the range of 1K - 10K monthly traffic (using ahrefs metrics). The best way to monetize your site in this period of 6 months is through Google AdSense.

After your 6months, you can decide to do whatever you want. If you want to build backlinks, you can. If you want to go into affiliate marketing, you can as well.

For a new website, the fastest ways to build links are:
1. Directory submissions.
2. Forum/blog comments(don't spam though).
3. Profile links.
4. Guest posting (you will need to learn how to scale this to save you time and frustration).

If you have made friends in your niche, you can also do link exchanges with them.

The summary of the whole "SEO" stuff is:

Step 1: Keywords research
Step 2: Check the DA/PA of the top ranking sites to judge if you can compete. If they are too high, go back to step 1.
Step 3: work on search intent.
Step 4: Give a damn good m*therf*cking article that will cause confusion to Google bots.
Step 5: Step 5 should be to build backlinks to those existing pages but since our strategy is to Target KD 0 keywords in bulk, F it.
Step 6: Let your internal linking game be so golden that sites like Wikipedia will learn from your own site..lol.
Step 7: Chill.

If you don't rank then the problem will always be from keywords research or failing to fulfil searchers intent.

I got everything I know now from reading ahrefs blog. Everything out there won't tell you the complete truth except from ahrefs. I also watched all their videos on their YouTube channel.

What I am trying to say is that if you want to learn SEO, go to ahrefs blog posts/videos.

My advice is for you to also learn to master how to use their tools perfectly. If you know how to use ahrefs well, your results will be shown on the Google SERPs.
Damn, that’s a unique look at how SEO works.
 

Koji

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Damn, that’s a unique look at how SEO works.
Thanks. I've spent a lot of time following wrong advices until I started digging in on what works or doesn't.

The truth about SEO is that if you really want to learn how SEO works, don't learn from SEO professionals. Instead learn from those that created the tools SEO experts are using e.g Ahrefs or Semrush. The guys behind these tools actually want people to use them and so, they'll teach you how to use them perfectly if you invest enough time in learning it.

Besides, these are the same tools SEO experts use when they want to do SEO.
 
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I don't normally take issue with Andy Black advice but encouraging someone to take on SEO clients after only doing one course sounds a bit like sending in a plumber who only just learned what a wrench is for. What's the worst that can happen?

Unlike Google Ads, where the downside is wasted money, an inexperienced SEO can quickly tank a website leading to months of repair work for even an experienced SEO. Even if the site wasn't ranking, you can still be making a situation much worse.

There is a plague of "pay me and I'll learn how to do a good job" types in this industry already. We don't need any more.

I think SEOguy's and other's suggestion that you build and rank some of your own properties is a much more responsible way of approaching/entering into this business.
I completely agree with this. I'm surprised anyone would advice him to "help people" with SEO - when he knows basically nothing about it. I assume the people giving this advice doesn't know SEO either.

If a person doesn't know SEO, it can potentially ruin someone's business. I've seen several people getting their websites slaughtered by Google, just because the "SEO guy" knew F-all what he was doing. Resulting in people losing a lot of money and time. It's very dangerous to play with people's businesses like that.

Never ever freelance as a SEO if you don't know what you're doing. Start with your own sites first.

"a bit like sending in a plumber who only just learned what a wrench is for. What's the worst that can happen?" - Well said!
 

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Can anyone offer me a little quick SEO advice?

I'm just starting out on SEO and I hear backlinks are super important for ranking.

Is this a useful service to generate backlinks for your website or a con:
 

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Can anyone offer me a little quick SEO advice?

I'm just starting out on SEO and I hear backlinks are super important for ranking.

Is this a useful service to generate backlinks for your website or a con:
Build contextual backlinks to your target pages.
 
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Thanks Danny... I'm super tight for time with multiple projects afoot and wonder if this paid service would be worth it!? Whatcha think?
 
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There are a few fantastic places to learn SEO online. (I'm a fan of those places that test ideas before assuming they are correct). You can focus on an aspect of SEO, on-page or off-page, but no need to worry about niches. The SEO is the same process no matter the niche. I have national and local clients in a variety of niches. And it will be a continual learning process. The best tip starting out, "When Google is telling you to go left, you need to go right" .
 

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I remember my first steps into SEO. It was quite unusual and challenging at first, but I managed to get involved in the process after a couple of months. I was hungry to learn and absorb new information. That helped me. In addition, you can find many articles on the subject to help ensure success in this endeavor. Personally, I use https://sgservicesonline.net/seo-services-singapore/, and it is the absolute winner so far among all the helpers I have considered for collaboration.
 
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evanwilson

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I just completed a course on UDEMY for SEO beginners and it has peaked my interest in that field. Are there any sources where I could go deeper in SEO,SEM, copywriting and digital marketing? Also, if I get better at these skills, is it beneficial to me as a freelancer or as a business? Would it land any jobs in the future? Just curious.
Absolutely you can build a solid career. These skills are very well in demand from a job perspective and also as a business, you can have vast and unbelievable opportunities. There are a lot of blogs and stuff on the internet where you can learn almost everything about SEO.
 

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