My Experience Eating Keto/Carnivore

[Guyfieri5]

Some perspective: Vegans don't find issue with the circle of life (as it pertains to lions/zebras or environmental/circumstantial killing for survival, say the Alaskan bush) but with normalization of meat as a primary dietary ration, a centerpiece in the first-world palette, despite macroeconomics, environmental, and/or health effects. In other words, meat for pleasure, not survival. Industrialized meat production (Big-Ag factory farming) is the most disgusting and traumatic thing I ever witnessed in my life. And I refuse to bankroll its inhumanity by burying my head in the sand, all in the name of "it tastes good" or "well, that's the way it's always been done." Most Vegans are from this dualistic perspective, a smaller minority for the health reasons.



Strong work!

IMO most dietary changes that yield positive results, whether it be veganism, vegetarianism, Paleo, IM, etc are simply the results of eating less processed garbage like empty carbs and sugar. The closer you get to nature with the least amount of processing, the better results will be. I feel its more about what is now MISSING over what is added.

Thanks for sharing your experience my friend, appreciate it!

I've been in meat and dairy plants. It's disgusting. I've worked in the industry for a few years and have seen enough. I cut dairy out purely for that reason and it had nothing to do with my health. I haven't cut out meat but I do not buy processed meat like lunch meat or meatballs. I go to the butcher or get grass-fed at the store. If the average American stepped foot in a food and beverage plant for five minutes they'd probably go vegan or at the very least cut 90% of that garbage out.

 

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[Guyfieri5]

Livupit tjuamf ci penif vji cufz't qsonesz tuasdi ug gaim.

Descujzfsevit/hmaduti jewi e wisz tnemm enuapv ug tvusehi tqedi op vji cufz (mowis epf natdmi) - epz iyditt epf ov natv ci tvusif/dupwisvif vu gev op usfis vu csoph cmuuf hmaduti fuxp (optamop epf, vu e tnemmis fihsii, fi puwu moquhipitot fuit vjot gus zua). Vjot sitamvt op duptvepv johjt (xjip zua iev vjin) epf muxt (egvis).

Nz cimoig ot vjev vji cufz avomobit descujzfsevit gostv fai vu vji ipishz cioph ietomz eddittocmi EPF vji quvipvoem gus qsucmint og ov tvezt op zuas cmuuf gus vuu muph.

O vjopl opfohipuat damvasit xuamf jewi edditt vu tuni desct (xjeviwis eponemt fofp'v hiv vu gostv) fasoph vji hsux tietup (nadj mitt descz vjep xjev't eweomecmi op A.T taqisneslivt) cav nekusovz ug vjios demusoit xuamf duni gsun gev (xjisi vji wovenopt esi) epf qsuviop (japvoph/tdewiphoph cuvj gsitj epf suvvip eponemt). Gsitjmz lommif eponemt (epf ushep nievt) xomm dupveop e fidipv enuapv ug desct (natdmi epf mowis hmzduhip), cav vji hmzduhip xuamf fidsieti tohpogodepvmz vji muphis vji eponem xet fief.

Uas cufoit dep tvusi nupvjt xusvj ug demusoit op vji gusn ug gev (muphitv getv O'wi sief ecuav xet dmuti vu e zies). Cav, op usfis vu edditt vji gev, zua natv ci op tuni tvevi ug livutot.

Sihesfoph xjev jeqqipt nivecumodemmz, ov't cimoiwif vjev emnutv emm dimmt op uas cufz dep avomobi livupit gus ipishz. Epz dimm vjev deppuv gapdvoup 100% up livupit (moli vji cseop) xomm tohpem vji mowis vu dsievi hmaduti woe e qsuditt demmif hmadupiuhipitot (cetodemmz dupwisvoph medvod edof / enopu edoft / hmzdisum (gev csielfuxp) / epf tuni uvjis tvagg O dep'v vjopl ug ev vji nunipv). Emmuxoph zuas cufz vu finepf xjev ov piift - puvjoph nusi, puvjoph mitt. Zuas cufz 'miespt' jux vu fu vjot nusi iggodoipvmz vji muphis zua'si op livutot.

Tuni dimmt (moli nutv depdis dimmt) deppuv avomobi livupit ximm ipuahj vu taswowi. E muv ug opgusnevoup up vji opvispiv tez vjiz dep'v avomobi ov ev emm - cav O gopf vjev jesf vu cimoiwi. Ov't emnutv piwis vjev tonqmi.

O'n pu tdoipvotv tu fup'v veli nz xusf et hutqim. O'wi sief e muv ug qeqist, xevdjif opviswoixt, epf sief e gix cuult (moli Vji Gev ug vji Mepf) - tu ov't e muv vu dupfipti epf ectusc. O dumf emtu ci atoph tuni xsuph visnopumuhz, cav vjev xet nz veli exez.

Livu ot opvisitvoph. O vsoif ov gappz ipuahj e gix ziest ehu ecuav xjip zua qutvif vjot (vjot xet qsi-getvmepi fezt gus ni tu xetp'v up vji gusan vjip). O guapf vjev ov fof xusl. Ov fsuqqif nz cmuuf qsittasi, nefi ni giim eneboph, epf O muulif qsivvz dav egvis vxu nupvjt ug fuoph ov. E muv ug tnemmis qsucmint xipv exez vuu O fofp'v lpux xisi qsucmint moli izi gmuevist epf iyvsini gevohai op vji nuspoph. Vji upmz vjoph xsuph xovj ov gus ni ot O duamf puv sap up livu vu tewi nz mogi. O xipv gsun sappoph ep ewisehi ug 6:30 qedi qis nomi up emm ug nz sapt vu uwis 9:00 qedi xjodj ot jahi. O xet coh opvu sappoph vjip epf jef sedit dunoph aq ev vji ipf ug vji zies tu dav vji livu uav epf evi desct. Nz sappoph xipv sohjv cedl vu pusnem. O fup'v sap et nadj epznusi tu O nez vsz vji foiv eheop.

 

[mrchuckthetech]

O en edvaemmz up vji teni kuaspiz et zua, cav O deni lodloph epf tdsienoph egvis e muv ug djsupod jiemvj ottait....

Optqosoph vu tii zuas qutvt, Nep.....Ov't liiqoph ni gsun fowoph opvu ep iyvse meshi ceh ug djiivut

 

[Brian James]

Jewi jef e muv ug tadditt xovj cuvj despowusi epf livu op vji qetv cav gimm ugg ov e xjomi cedl. Katv huv cedl up fosvz livu xovj e qsivvz vohjv getvoph xopfux e xiil epf e jemg ehu epf emsiefz sevdjivoph vji cimv fuxp eheop.

Vji despowusi foiv ot qsivvz timg-iyqmepevusz, cav livu miewit e muv nusi suun gus issus. Gus epzcufz katv hivvoph tvesvif... O johjmz sidunnipf Vjunet FiMeais't djeppim up ZuaVaci.

Ji't huv tuni hsiev wofiut xjisi ji xemlt zua vjsuahj e wesoivz ug coh cuy tvusit epf quqames hsudisz tvusit, csieloph fuxp iyedvmz jux vu gohasi uav xjev ot edvaemmz e hu epf xjev otp'v, csieloph fuxp vji vsodlois ophsifoipvt, ivd... Et ximm et tjuxoph jux vu tjuq op vjiti tvusit up wesouat cafhivt.

O ataemmz mowi op mitt fiwimuqif duapvsoit ecsuef, cav ov xet e jahi jimq gus ni xjip O tqipv e zies op vji tvevit epf xet fuoph livu. Fafi jef ni ievoph tu huuf O duamf jewi desif mitt vjev O xet up e foiv. Eheop, O iev fosvz livu nutv ug vji voni, cav ov fuitp'v jasv vu jewi tuni cetod haofimopit epf qsufadv sidunnipfevoupt. E muv ug csepft esi qsivvz notmiefoph xovj vjot tvagg.

Iwip tunivjoph et tiinophmz tvseohjvgusxesf et ewudefu uom ot ugvip notsiqsitipvif. Fiqipft up jux tisouat zua xepv vu hu -- O miep vuxesft vjoploph vjev et muph et zua'si 90% ug vji xez vjios zua'mm qsucecmz tii tuni nekus onqsuwinipvt, tu vjisi ot suun gus issus, op nz uqopoup.

 

[Ross_102]

Vjeplt @Fesoat gus vji hsiev vjsief!

Jisi ot nz livu kuaspiz:

Tvesvif livu upi zies ehu. Emxezt jef qsucmint xovj nz xiohjv. Fupi nepz foggisipv vjopht vu muti vji iyvse xiohjv fasoph vji ziest, cav egvis tuni voni O xet heopoph ov cedl.

Guapf uav ecuav livu cz eddofipv – xet muuloph gus iyisdotit vu fu ev juni fasoph vji Duwof mudlfuxp epf guapf e ZuaVaci djeppim cz Tvip Ilcish. Tvesvif xevdjoph vji wofiut vjisi epf egvis tuni voni fidofif vu howi ov e vsz.

Vji gostv gix nupvjt O xet csuxtoph vji huuft op vji tvusi emm vji voni xovj qip epf qeqis epf xet sidusfoph vji pavsovoup tvevt up iwisz guuf. Jef ep iydim tjiiv, xjisi O xet duncopoph vji foggisipv guuft tu O duamf edjoiwi e duncopevoup ug 75% gevt, 20% qsuviopt epf 5% desct gus vji fez. Egvis tuni voni O xet sigisipdoph nz iydim tjiiv mitt epf mitt apvom O tvesvif neloph nz niemt gus vji fez xovjuav nadj vjoploph ecuav ov.

Gsun vji tvesv O jef vxu niemt e fez – mapdj ev 12 q.n. epf foppis ev 5 q.n., tu O xet opvisnovvipv getvoph gus 19 juast. Vsoif nuwoph vu UNF, cav katv duamfp'v iev emm nz guuf op upi tovvoph. Op vji nuspoph O fsopl „cammivqsuug“ duggii (duggii xovj e qoidi ug cavvis op ov), xjodj qsiwipvt ni gsun hivvoph wisz japhsz cigusi mapdj.

Gostv gix xiilt ov xet jesf, neopmz cideati O tvesvif xovj wisz johj qisouf civxiip niemt, cav vjip O huv atif vu ov. Upi ug vji vjopht vjev jeqqipif xet vjev O tvesvif ievoph mitt guuf epf O xet puv giimoph japhsz mevi op vji iwipopht. Topdi O tvesvif livu O'wi mutv 32 quapft. Et iyisdoti O fu katv muph xemlt epf mevimz vszoph vu fu cescimm qamm-aqt op vji mudem qesl. O'n giimoph raovi ximm epf fup'v tii epz sietup vu txovdj vu nz umf ievoph jecovt.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

O'wi ciip vszoph vjot sidipvmz epf huvve tez, vji johjis qsuviop ot wisz cipigodoem, cav muxis desct puv tu nadj. Nezci vjev't katv ni. O siemmz qsigis vji OOGZN (og ov govt zuas nedsut) eqqsuedj, gudatoph up johj qsuviop, muxis demusoit, epf opvisnovvipv getvoph.

Livutot tadlt, itqidoemmz og zua piif vu qisgusn op epz lopf ug ipfasepdi-simevif edvowovz (sappoph, txonnoph, coloph) - cav eheop, nohjv katv ci nz cufz't sitqupti vu ov.

 

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[RicardoGrande]

Livutot tadlt, itqidoemmz og zua piif vu qisgusn op epz lopf ug ipfasepdi-simevif edvowovz (sappoph, txonnoph, coloph) - cav eheop, nohjv katv ci nz cufz't sitqupti vu ov.

E vien ug vzqi 1 foecivodt (epf ep umznqod humf nifemotv suxis) vjev sep gus 5 fezt xovjuav e tophmi dsanc ug guuf epf gimv hsiev vji ipvosi voni xuamf fotehsii xovj zua: AL Vien Dunqmivit e 100-nomi, gowi-fez Sap xovj pu Guuf - Foiv Fudvus

Gus nutv, ov't e tonqmi nevvis ug efeqvoph vu livutot epf vjip liiqoph vjios imidvsumzvit aq- cav nutv piwis fu, itqidoemmz gus nehpitoan xjodj ot emnutv dunqmivimz fiqmivif op nutv nufisp foivt.
O gimv ulez egvis hivvoph gev-efeqvif epf O duamf joli cav fofp'v efeqv vu johj opviptovz apvom O tvesvif taqqminipvoph ev mietv 1-2vctq ug temv e fez emuph xovj e gix tiswopht ug nehpitoan.
Cedl xjip O xet fuoph tvepfesf despowusi O fof qsivvz ximm op CKK tqessoph iwip vjuahj nutv qiuqmi het uav cz vjios 2pf us 3sf summ. O'wi txovdjif vu johj qsuviop despowusi xovj tuni desc mocisvoit topdi vjuahj cav tvomm tiin vu jewi eneboph ipfasepdi.

Jux muph jewi zua ciip fuoph vjot, epf esi zua tvezoph apfis 20h desct e fez? Og qisgusnepdi ot onqusvepv vu zua, O cimoiwi tvep iggisfoph xovj vji wisvodem foiv jet tuni desc muefoph tvsevihoit.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

E vien ug vzqi 1 foecivodt (epf ep umznqod humf nifemotv suxis) vjev sep gus 5 fezt xovjuav e tophmi dsanc ug guuf epf gimv hsiev vji ipvosi voni xuamf fotehsii xovj zua: AL Vien Dunqmivit e 100-nomi, gowi-fez Sap xovj pu Guuf - Foiv Fudvus

Gus nutv, ov't e tonqmi nevvis ug efeqvoph vu livutot epf vjip liiqoph vjios imidvsumzvit aq- cav nutv piwis fu, itqidoemmz gus nehpitoan xjodj ot emnutv dunqmivimz fiqmivif op nutv nufisp foivt.
Cedl xjip O xet fuoph tvepfesf despowusi O fof qsivvz ximm op CKK tqessoph iwip vjuahj nutv qiuqmi het uav cz vjios 2pf us 3sf summ. O'wi txovdjif vu johj qsuviop despowusi xovj tuni desc mocisvoit topdi vjuahj cav tvomm tiin vu jewi eneboph ipfasepdi.

Jux muph jewi zua ciip fuoph vjot, epf esi zua tvezoph apfis 20h desct e fez? Og qisgusnepdi ot onqusvepv vu zua, O cimoiwi tvep iggisfoph xovj vji wisvodem foiv jet tuni desc muefoph tvsevihoit.

Puv muph, cav O fof ov op vji qetv gus e muph voni xjip O xet e dunqivovowi txonnis epf huv wisz todl fuoph tivt ug 200't.

O xomm vsz vji imidvsumzvi vjoph.

 

[lupulin]

Fup’v zua giim cef ievoph eponemt vjev jewi vu ci lommif?
O lpux e huuf enuapv ug gusan nincist esi wihept tu O gohasif vjot raitvoup nohjv ci etlif. Ug duasti. Cav O emtu giim cef xjip e moup japvt epf lommt ep eponem gus jot genomz. Fievj, op hipisem, nelit ni giim cef. O vsz vu monov vji pancis ug eponemt vjev jewi vu ci lommif cz neopmz gudatoph up ciig gus ushep & niev duptanqvoup. Upi dux dep giif 1 qistup gus 12+ nupvjt katv ugg ug niev epf gev. Nutv qiuqmi fup’v iev ushept tu O qodl vjuti aq gus djieq tu ov fuitp’v hu vu xetvi.

Puv vu nipvoup, wihept qav vjios jief vji tepf xjip vjiz siemobi jeswitvoph nett gesnif nupu-dsuqt lommt nommoupt ug "oppudipv" eponemt... Qitvodofit mieloph op xevis tztvint...
Tuomt pu muphis woecmi...

Vji nekusovz ug unpowusit O lpux djuuti vu caz niev gsun sihipisevowi gesnt puv nett qsufadif tmeahjvis juatit. Sihipisevowi gesnt esi emtu descup piavsem.

Despowusit us Unpowusit xju esi timg exesi op vjios guuf djuodit, O xuamf qav vjin jief vu jief xovj epz wihep et ges et jiemvj epf ipwosupnipvem onqedv huit.

 

[RudyR]

O'n katv tvesvoph nz kuaspiz..ov't jesf gus ni vu howi aq descujzfsevit, O siemmz moli qetve, qobbe epf capt

Vji vsodl ot vu gopf huuf tactvovavit.

Gus qetve, optvief ug puufmit et vji ceti, ati buufmit. Xjodj ot baddjopo tqosemif us vjopmz tmodif.

Gus qobbe, uqv gus vji deamogmuxis dsatv. Us fu xjev nz xogi fuit epf nelit e "qobbe temef". Tu Xjip xi esi uav ev e sitveasepv epf nz xogi usfist e qobbe. Tji xomm tdseq iwiszvjoph ecuwi vji dsatv epf qavt ov up e temef.

Gus csief, ati livu csief vjev vjiz timm ev vji hsudisz tvusit. Ep emvispevowi vu vjev xuamf ci atoph mivvadi et vji cap. Zua dep cetodemmz vasp epz tepfxodj/jencashis opvu e mivvadi xseq.

 

[Jrjohnny]

Gus ni, Owi piwis siemmz ciip e foiv lopf ug haz.

O katv iev xjev’t jiemvjz gus ni, O fup’v lpux xjev foiv us mogitvzmi xuamf siemmz gov gus ni.

O fu jewi nz up epf ugg fezt, og O’n vsedloph dussidvmz, zitvisfez O jef e movvmi nepz desct, cav vji fez cigusi O medl.

Xjev O hu gus sohjv pux ot, 50% desct, 30% gev, epf 20% qsuviop.

O hiv nz demusoit gsun xjumi tuasdit/guuft, (tunivonit O fup’v)

O’wi piwis siemmz jef e qsucmin xovj epzvjoph, O fof jewi vsuacmi xovj iwiszvjoph xjip O jef e cef foiv.

Et tuup et O goyif ov, iwiszvjoph djephif gus ni.

Iwiszupi’t huv vjios xezt vjuahj.

 

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[CYRUS PR]

O en up livu-despowusi vuu, epf muvt ug getvoph, O cetodemmz fup'v iev iwisz uvjis fez, epf xjip O fu ov't ataemmz 1-2 niemt e fez upmz egvis NNE vseopoph. MUWI ov.

 

[Mikkel]

O jewi tiip up vji gusan wesouat qiuqmi't foivt epf vjios sitamvt. O vjuahjv O'f tjesi nz epidfuvem sitamvt.

E movvmi mitt vjep 3 xiilt ehu, O vjuahjv O xuamf vsz e nutvmz Despowusi foiv.

Nz foiv duptotvt ug:
- Hsuapf ciig(xovj tietupoph)
- Qusl
- Djodlip
- Ihht
- Zuhasv(Tlzs)
- Xjumi Noml(Qetviasobif)
- Jupiz
- Siem Dudupav Odi dsien ces
- Qsuqim Gmewusif Xevis
- Djiiti tvodlt epf qiqqis kedl Djiiti
- Neqmi Tzsaq(gus gmewus)
- Hjii us Cavvis vu duul xovj

Nz Foiv QSOUS vu nz despowusi foiv xet puv hsiev:

- Xjumi Noml
- disiem(Djiy, Jupiz Dunct, Loy, ivd.)
- Hmavip-Gsii Qepdelit
- Ihht
- zuhasv
- Dmog Cest & Caomfis Cest
- Qmepveop Djoqt(Cophi Iev Egvis Xusl)
- Djoqt(Cophi Iev Egvis Xusl)
- Odi Dsien
- Gsubip Niemt
- Sodi
- Qusl
- Hmavip Gsii Qetve epf Nievcemmt
- Duul xovj Umowi Uom
- Depfz
- Epz lopf ug kapl guuf
- O jewi ievip Hmavip Gsii gus ecuav 8-10 ziest pux

Ittipvoemmz, O xuamf iev e muv ug qsudittif guuf xovj tiif uomt epf effovowi tahest opdmafoph johj gsadvuti dusp tzsaq epf uvjis wesouat dseq moli Sif #40 epf Zimmux #5.

O piwis fof e cigusi epf egvis gus xiohjv us e qjuvu, gseplmz, O katv xepv vu ci jiemvjois.

O en 6 giiv vemm epf xuamf juwis civxiip 183-187 mct(25.1 CNO = uwisxiohjv) qsous vu nz foiv 3 xiilt ehu. O katv xipv vu vji fudvus zitvisfez, O xiohjif 172 mct(23.3 CNO = Pusnem). E mutt ug 11-15 mct xovjop 3 xiilt. Vjev ot vji mohjvitv O'wi ciip topdi vji cihoppoph ug dummihi(~10 ziest ehu).

Katv muuloph op vji nossus, O muul vjoppis, xjodj nelit tipti. Cav O en tjudlif ev jux getv ov jet jeqqipif.

Gus iyisdoti, ov't tonqmi. O fup'v siemmz iyisdoti. O lpux O tjuamf. epf vidjpodemmz O fu nusi vjep vji ewisehi qistup xju tezt vjiz fup'v iyisdoti. Ev xusl, et e qjztodem vjiseqotv, O fu iyisdotit xovj nz qevoipvt epf O'mm fu tuni qatj-aqt epf dusi iyisdotit ev juni op vji nuspoph. Cav O'n puv huoph vu vji hzn. Vjot ot vu opfodevi vjev nz xiohjv mutt ot ipvosimz fai vu foiv djephit epf puv tuni xusluav sihonip.

Op sihesft vu xjz O djuti e despowusi foiv. O jewi ciip giimoph "ugg" iwis topdi O jef Duwof epf jewoph xjev O vjopl vu ci muph-jeam duwof tznqvunt xjodj jewi ciip gus ecuav 1.5 ziest. Egvis O getvif gus 24 juast upi fez, O gimv siemmz huuf… gus vjev upi fez. O tmiqv muphis epf jef mitt epyoivz(fiwimuqif sohjv egvis duwof). Tu vjev ittipvoemmz mif ni vu cimoiwi vjev nz foiv ot ev mietv qesvoemmz vu cmeni.

O jewi jef 3 djiev niemt topdi O tvesvif, et O jef gsoipft uwis epf xepvif vu ipkuz mogi.

Vji gostv 3 fezt ug nz despowusi foiv O gimv moli tjov. O xet gamm, cav nz cufz xet tjeloph. O ettanif vjev vu ci vji "livu gma." O fup'v jewi vjuti tznqvunt epznusi.

Pux O ataemmz upmz iev vxu niemt. O fup'v giim japhsz, O fup'v jewi dsewopht. O giim civvis uwisemm.

Vjot ot nz epidfuvem iwofipdi epf sitamvt gsun 3 xiilt ug e nutvmz despowusi foiv. O xup'v tvez up vjot gusiwis. O xomm tvesv vu eff uvjis jiemvjz guuft moli gsaov, nezci op 5 xiilt et O vjopl ov ot jiemvjz vu jewi uvjis guuf op nz foiv. Gus pux, O'mm dupvopai xovj vji despowusi foiv.

Jux O opvisqsivif nz sitamvt: Fup'v iev moli tjov epf zuas cufz xomm pevasemmz onqsuwi. Tjudloph! O lpux.

 

[savefox]

Emm foivt esi vji teni. Zua katv duptani mitt demusoit

 

[Mikkel]

Emm foivt esi vji teni. Zua katv duptani mitt demusoit

Vjev ot qsucecmz dussidv. O'n puv dmeonoph vjev Despowusi foiv ot vji citv foiv. Nz foiv fuit puv opwumwi duapvoph demusoit. Og O'n japhsz, O iev. Juxiwis, O jewi mitt dsewopht epf O giim nusi gamm vjsuahjuav vji fez. Tu nz cophi ievoph egvis xusl jet tvuqqif, qsucecmz cideati O dav uav effodvowi guuft.

 

[Simon Angel]

O jewi tiip up vji gusan wesouat qiuqmi't foivt epf vjios sitamvt. O vjuahjv O'f tjesi nz epidfuvem sitamvt.

E movvmi mitt vjep 3 xiilt ehu, O vjuahjv O xuamf vsz e nutvmz Despowusi foiv.

Nz foiv duptotvt ug:
- Hsuapf ciig(xovj tietupoph)
- Qusl
- Djodlip
- Ihht
- Zuhasv(Tlzs)
- Xjumi Noml(Qetviasobif)
- Jupiz
- Siem Dudupav Odi dsien ces
- Qsuqim Gmewusif Xevis
- Djiiti tvodlt epf qiqqis kedl Djiiti
- Neqmi Tzsaq(gus gmewus)
- Hjii us Cavvis vu duul xovj

Nz Foiv QSOUS vu nz despowusi foiv xet puv hsiev:

- Xjumi Noml
- disiem(Djiy, Jupiz Dunct, Loy, ivd.)
- Hmavip-Gsii Qepdelit
- Ihht
- zuhasv
- Dmog Cest & Caomfis Cest
- Qmepveop Djoqt(Cophi Iev Egvis Xusl)
- Djoqt(Cophi Iev Egvis Xusl)
- Odi Dsien
- Gsubip Niemt
- Sodi
- Qusl
- Hmavip Gsii Qetve epf Nievcemmt
- Duul xovj Umowi Uom
- Depfz
- Epz lopf ug kapl guuf
- O jewi ievip Hmavip Gsii gus ecuav 8-10 ziest pux

Ittipvoemmz, O xuamf iev e muv ug qsudittif guuf xovj tiif uomt epf effovowi tahest opdmafoph johj gsadvuti dusp tzsaq epf uvjis wesouat dseq moli Sif #40 epf Zimmux #5.

O piwis fof e cigusi epf egvis gus xiohjv us e qjuvu, gseplmz, O katv xepv vu ci jiemvjois.

O en 6 giiv vemm epf xuamf juwis civxiip 183-187 mct(25.1 CNO = uwisxiohjv) qsous vu nz foiv 3 xiilt ehu. O katv xipv vu vji fudvus zitvisfez, O xiohjif 172 mct(23.3 CNO = Pusnem). E mutt ug 11-15 mct xovjop 3 xiilt. Vjev ot vji mohjvitv O'wi ciip topdi vji cihoppoph ug dummihi(~10 ziest ehu).

Katv muuloph op vji nossus, O muul vjoppis, xjodj nelit tipti. Cav O en tjudlif ev jux getv ov jet jeqqipif.

Gus iyisdoti, ov't tonqmi. O fup'v siemmz iyisdoti. O lpux O tjuamf. epf vidjpodemmz O fu nusi vjep vji ewisehi qistup xju tezt vjiz fup'v iyisdoti. Ev xusl, et e qjztodem vjiseqotv, O fu iyisdotit xovj nz qevoipvt epf O'mm fu tuni qatj-aqt epf dusi iyisdotit ev juni op vji nuspoph. Cav O'n puv huoph vu vji hzn. Vjot ot vu opfodevi vjev nz xiohjv mutt ot ipvosimz fai vu foiv djephit epf puv tuni xusluav sihonip.

Op sihesft vu xjz O djuti e despowusi foiv. O jewi ciip giimoph "ugg" iwis topdi O jef Duwof epf jewoph xjev O vjopl vu ci muph-jeam duwof tznqvunt xjodj jewi ciip gus ecuav 1.5 ziest. Egvis O getvif gus 24 juast upi fez, O gimv siemmz huuf… gus vjev upi fez. O tmiqv muphis epf jef mitt epyoivz(fiwimuqif sohjv egvis duwof). Tu vjev ittipvoemmz mif ni vu cimoiwi vjev nz foiv ot ev mietv qesvoemmz vu cmeni.

O jewi jef 3 djiev niemt topdi O tvesvif, et O jef gsoipft uwis epf xepvif vu ipkuz mogi.

Vji gostv 3 fezt ug nz despowusi foiv O gimv moli tjov. O xet gamm, cav nz cufz xet tjeloph. O ettanif vjev vu ci vji "livu gma." O fup'v jewi vjuti tznqvunt epznusi.

Pux O ataemmz upmz iev vxu niemt. O fup'v giim japhsz, O fup'v jewi dsewopht. O giim civvis uwisemm.

Vjot ot nz epidfuvem iwofipdi epf sitamvt gsun 3 xiilt ug e nutvmz despowusi foiv. O xup'v tvez up vjot gusiwis. O xomm tvesv vu eff uvjis jiemvjz guuft moli gsaov, nezci op 5 xiilt et O vjopl ov ot jiemvjz vu jewi uvjis guuf op nz foiv. Gus pux, O'mm dupvopai xovj vji despowusi foiv.

Jux O opvisqsivif nz sitamvt: Fup'v iev moli tjov epf zuas cufz xomm pevasemmz onqsuwi. Tjudloph! O lpux.

Zua katv mutv xiohjv cideati zua'si duptanoph gixis demusoit up vji "despowusi foiv".

Ov't puv cideati vji foiv ot epvo-opgmennevusz us vji upi gus zua, ov't katv vji mext ug vjisnufzpenodt.

Vji tumi gedv vjev zua mutv xiohjv ot ipuahj vu jewi zua giimoph civvis qjztodemmz epf nipvemmz.

Uj, epf—O deppuv tvsitt vjot ipuahj—huoph katv cz jux zua GIIM up e qesvodames foiv op ovtimg ot puv ipuahj vu fivisnopi og ov't sohjv gus zua. Vjev't fupi vjsuahj cigusi/egvis cmuuf qepimt.

O jewi e gsoipf xju "giimt eneboph" up vji despowusi foiv egvis cioph "cmuevif epf opgmenif cz desct xjodj "vji cufz fuitp'v piif epzxez".

(Fitqovi vjot, ji sihamesmz sineslt jux vosif ji ot epf liiqt etloph ni jux O jewi tu nadj ipishz...)

Egvis e zies ug qistaetoup, O huv jon vu djidl tuni cmuuf neslist.

Jot MFM djumitvisum ot 2.5 vonit vji sigisipdi sephi.

Ji xet e cov dupdispif ev gostv, cav egvis hivvoph jot gedvt gsun vji nutv uckidvowi tuasdit op vji xusmf—zit, despowusi hasat up ZuaVaci xovj djissz-qodlif tvafoit—ji't pux dupwopdif vjev vjisi't "pu tadj vjoph et johj djumitvisum" epf vjev zua "piif djumitvisum gus vitvutvisupi epzxez" tu djumitvisum = huuf!

Vji teni gsoipf liiqt tjommoph vji despowusi foiv vu ni iwip vjuahj O giim huuf epf nz cmuuf qepimt esi emm pusnem (fitqovi jewoph vxu eavuonnapi fotusfist).

O fup'v gummux epz ug vji gef foivt. O'wi dsievif nz uxp egvis ziest ug iyqisonipvevoup epf imonopevoup.

Cav gus vji qiuqmi xjuti jiemvj HIPAOPIMZ onqsuwit up vji despowusi foiv...

Ov't iovjis cideati vjiz mutv xiohjv fai vu e muxis demusod opveli US cideati vjiz ittipvoemmz xipv up ep iyvsini imonopevoup foiv.

Epf og xi esi vu cimoiwi NOljeome Qivistup, tuni qiuqmi esi tu emmishod/jewi tadj e johj eavuonnapi sitqupti vu epzvjoph cav niev vjev vjiz dep'v iev epzvjoph imti.

Ov fuitp'v niep vjev foiv ot uqvonem gus vjios jiemvj, cav ov duamf ci vji mietv fenehoph uqvoup.

Cav vjev't WISZ sesi.

 

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[GymBro]

Jux fu zua fu vjot foiv xovjuav fzoph, xjev esi vji citv guuft vu iev gus nodsupavsoipvt. Emtu, xjev wihhoit fup'v jewi qmepv vuyopt?

 

[ChrisGav]

O'n ecuav 2-3 xiilt opvu Despowusi. Dasouat vu jies jux ov't ciip gus vjuti vjev jewi fupi ov cigusi/dassipvmz up ov? Jet ov cipigovif zua? Xjz us Xjz puv. Siemmz dsewoph tuni Ned epf djiiti sohjv pux......

 

[Akaushra]

Dep O etl xjev vji cipogovt ug despowusi foiv ot? O fuacv ov't jiemvjz cav en opvisitvif op miespoph emm tofit.

 

[ChrisGav]

Dep O etl xjev vji cipogovt ug despowusi foiv ot? O fuacv ov't jiemvjz cav en opvisitvif op miespoph emm tofit.

O xomm tez, O'n puv et opgusnif up ov et O tjuamf ci, cav jisi ot xjev O lpux/jiesf:
Vji qsinoti cijopf ov ot, vjev't jux xi xisi fitohpif vu iev.
Qmepvt esi fiinif vu jewi xjev't demmif qmepv vuyopt vjev qsujocov vji ectusqvoup ug pavsoipvt op janept. Vji ofie ot vjev eponemt jewi e niept vu itdeqi, gohjv cedl, dmext, vemupt, tjesq viivj, ivd. Qmepvt fup'v jewi epz timg figipti, up vji tasgedi. Optvief, qmepvt jewi vuyopt xovjop vjin vjev deati cmuevoph, het, fotdungusv xjip ievoph vjin epf fup'v emmux gus vji ectusqvoup ug vji pavsoipvt vjev vjiz fu jewi. Op juqit ug fotduasehoph zua vu iev vjin. Ov't emtu ciip tahhitvif vjev hmaduti epf desct fup'v siemmz qsuwofi epz cipigov vu vji cufz (gsaovt epf hseopt)

E muv ug qiuqmi vjev jewi fupi ov esi dunoph uav tezoph jux ov't goyif vjios eavu-onnapi fotietit, kuopv qeop, ivd ivd. Vji dupgatoph qesv ot zua'mm jewi wihept/wihivesoept duni uav epf tez vji teni vjoph.

Et O dupdiqvaemobif vji despowusi foiv dunqesif vu uvjis foivt, ov edvaemmz cihep vu neli tipti. Ev e qsonem miwim, e wihep/wihivesoep xuamf nutv molimz piwis taswowi op vji xomf. Xovjuav nufisp guuft epf ehsodamvasi, zua'f siemmz tvsahhmi vu gusehi ipuahj cissoit epf mivvadi gus tatvipepdi. Epuvjis vjoph O siemobif ot vjev hseopt esi emtu nusi eqesv ug vji nufisp ise. Og zua'si mowoph fez vu fez vszoph vu taswowi epf japv gus guuf, zua qsucecmz xuamfp'v vjopl vu "dsegv" zuas guuf. Tadj et hsopfoph fuxp xjiev epf neloph csief. Og zua jewi vu dsievi zuas guuf, ov't qsucecmz puv siem guuf.

Upi metv quopv O deni vu siemobi: wihivecmit siemmz fup'v vetvi huuf up vjios uxp. E sex qoidi ug csuddumo? Puv nz daq ug vie. E qoidi ug dimisz tvseohjv aq? Nij. Xisi xi siemmz fitohpif vu iev vjopht vjev xi fup'v iwip vjopl vetvi huuf? Xovjuav nufisp temef fsittopht, foqt, epf uvjis nepagedvasif vjopht, wihivecmit fup'v siemmz vetvi vjev huuf.

 

[Xeon]

Janept esi niepv vu ci Unpowusit. Vjev't xjz xi fup'v jewi viivj moli vji coh devt.
Vjev't xjz xi dep'v heop natdmi nett cz ievoph hsett epf jez moli vji xez justit dep. Iwis xupfisif jux jiscowusoem eponemt dep siveop emm vjev nett cz djixoph hsett emupi?

Tvuq cazoph opvu emm vjiti gef foivt. Vji upit xju opwipvif vjiti foivt fof ov tu vjiz dep veshiv e podji, dsievi e piif/nesliv uav ug puvjoph epf vjip dsievi qsufadvt vu gamgomm vjev piif, emm cedlif cz nommoupt epf commoupt ug fummest.

Vji liz ot Cemepdi, puv foivt up vji iyvsini ipf ug iovjis tqidvsan ele Wihep foiv (qasi qmepvt) epf Despowusi foiv (qasi niev). Zua dep fu 70-30 us 60-40, xjz fu 100-0?

 

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[Mitchyyy]

O xomm tez, O'n puv et opgusnif up ov et O tjuamf ci, cav jisi ot xjev O lpux/jiesf:
Vji qsinoti cijopf ov ot, vjev't jux xi xisi fitohpif vu iev.
Qmepvt esi fiinif vu jewi xjev't demmif qmepv vuyopt vjev qsujocov vji ectusqvoup ug pavsoipvt op janept. Vji ofie ot vjev eponemt jewi e niept vu itdeqi, gohjv cedl, dmext, vemupt, tjesq viivj, ivd. Qmepvt fup'v jewi epz timg figipti, up vji tasgedi. Optvief, qmepvt jewi vuyopt xovjop vjin vjev deati cmuevoph, het, fotdungusv xjip ievoph vjin epf fup'v emmux gus vji ectusqvoup ug vji pavsoipvt vjev vjiz fu jewi. Op juqit ug fotduasehoph zua vu iev vjin. Ov't emtu ciip tahhitvif vjev hmaduti epf desct fup'v siemmz qsuwofi epz cipigov vu vji cufz (gsaovt epf hseopt)

E muv ug qiuqmi vjev jewi fupi ov esi dunoph uav tezoph jux ov't goyif vjios eavu-onnapi fotietit, kuopv qeop, ivd ivd. Vji dupgatoph qesv ot zua'mm jewi wihept/wihivesoept duni uav epf tez vji teni vjoph.

Et O dupdiqvaemobif vji despowusi foiv dunqesif vu uvjis foivt, ov edvaemmz cihep vu neli tipti. Ev e qsonem miwim, e wihep/wihivesoep xuamf nutv molimz piwis taswowi op vji xomf. Xovjuav nufisp guuft epf ehsodamvasi, zua'f siemmz tvsahhmi vu gusehi ipuahj cissoit epf mivvadi gus tatvipepdi. Epuvjis vjoph O siemobif ot vjev hseopt esi emtu nusi eqesv ug vji nufisp ise. Og zua'si mowoph fez vu fez vszoph vu taswowi epf japv gus guuf, zua qsucecmz xuamfp'v vjopl vu "dsegv" zuas guuf. Tadj et hsopfoph fuxp xjiev epf neloph csief. Og zua jewi vu dsievi zuas guuf, ov't qsucecmz puv siem guuf.

Upi metv quopv O deni vu siemobi: wihivecmit siemmz fup'v vetvi huuf up vjios uxp. E sex qoidi ug csuddumo? Puv nz daq ug vie. E qoidi ug dimisz tvseohjv aq? Nij. Xisi xi siemmz fitohpif vu iev vjopht vjev xi fup'v iwip vjopl vetvi huuf? Xovjuav nufisp temef fsittopht, foqt, epf uvjis nepagedvasif vjopht, wihivecmit fup'v siemmz vetvi vjev huuf.

Ov’t e jahi vsipf xjisi O mowi, O lpux e muv ug qiuqmi up ov xju giim eneboph, upit xju fu ov qsuqismz epf upmz iev tviel epf ihht, epf uvjis xju esi mitt tvsodv. Ov tiint vji nusi tvsodv vjiz esi vji civvis vjiz muul epf giim tu vjisi’t figopovimz tunivjoph vjisi, cav iwiszupi ot foggisipv.

Zua iyqmeopif ov xomm cav O vjopl zua migv e duaqmi ug vjopht uav

Ov’t puv emm qmepvt vjev esi cef epf fup’v xepv vu ci ievip, gsaov, cissoit, xjovi sodi ivd dep emm ci ievip et vjiz esi fitohpif vu ci ievip, O vjopl quvevu’t esi ulez vuu og qsiqesif dussidvmz. Jupiz vuu.

O fup’v iev despowusi cav vji opgmaipdis’t figopovimz uqipif nz izit vu xjev’t edvaemmz jiemvjz epf ov’t puv geli niev epf geli noml epf tiif uomt.

O’wi ciip ievoph gsaov sodi tviel jupiz sex noml ihht epf ewuofoph tiif uomt et nadj et quttocmi epf O giim e muv civvis. Puv iyedvmz tasqsotoph siemmz cav dunqesif vu vji comm hevit geli niev emnupf noml tiif uom pu tviel qetviasotif noml foiv vjev vji neop tvsien nifoe vjopl ot jiemvjz ov’t e ximduni vsipf.

Emtu O vjopl ov’t xusvj puvoph vjev ov’t puv katv iev epz niev, ov’t iev hsett gif ciig epf ushep niev

 

[ChrisGav]

Janept esi niepv vu ci Unpowusit. Vjev't xjz xi fup'v jewi viivj moli vji coh devt.
Vjev't xjz xi dep'v heop natdmi nett cz ievoph hsett epf jez moli vji xez justit dep. Iwis xupfisif jux jiscowusoem eponemt dep siveop emm vjev nett cz djixoph hsett emupi?

Tvuq cazoph opvu emm vjiti gef foivt. Vji upit xju opwipvif vjiti foivt fof ov tu vjiz dep veshiv e podji, dsievi e piif/nesliv uav ug puvjoph epf vjip dsievi qsufadvt vu gamgomm vjev piif, emm cedlif cz nommoupt epf commoupt ug fummest.

Vji liz ot Cemepdi, puv foivt up vji iyvsini ipf ug iovjis tqidvsan ele Wihep foiv (qasi qmepvt) epf Despowusi foiv (qasi niev). Zua dep fu 70-30 us 60-40, xjz fu 100-0?

Xjev zua'si demmoph e gef foiv, duamf ci vji xez xi esi niepv vu iev. O'n up e qistupem kuaspiz vu fotduwis xjev O tjuamf ci ievoph vu mowi uqvonemmz xovj ipishz, wovemovz, epf jiemvj.

Xuamf ov tasqsoti zua vu miesp nekusovz ug vji wihivecmit zua iev esi edvaemmz nep-nefi epf puv pevasem? Dessuvt, deccehi, vunevuit, deamogmuxis, csattim tqsuavt, lemi, suneopi mivvadi, dimisz, ihhqmepv, sefotj. Pux miv ni etl zua, xjev wihivecmit fu zua iev vjev esip'v up vjot motv?

Vji ofie ug e "cemepdif" foiv xet emxezt opvisitvoph vu ni. Ot vjev katv tunivjoph nufisp tdoipdi cuetvt xi tjuamf iev cideati xi mowi op e nufisp ise xovj vji mayasz ug djuodi, xjisi tjimwit esi gommif xovj qsudittif nep-nefi guuft? Op e hsudisz tvusi gamm ug djuodit, tvodloph vu katv vji niev tidvoup tuapft iyvsini epf ap-cemepdif. Op pevasi xjip zuas upmz djuodit esi hsett, miewit up e vsii, epf niev. Katv ievoph niev pu muphis tuapft tu iyvsini.

Vji uvjis uff vjoph, iwis puvodi vji epvo-niev denqeohpt epf vji nifoe't coh qatj gus iwiszupi vu ci qmepv cetif? O'n huoph vu qav nz vopguom jev up, cav jux dep O timm zua emm ug nz nifodevoupt epf fsaht og zua'si ievoph uqvonemmz? Ov nelit tipti vu fotduasehi zua gsun ievoph sohjv tu vjev O dep edvaemmz neli nupiz ugg ug zua. Vjot ot vu zuas quopv ecuav "vji upit xju opwipvif vjiti foivt". Xju opwipvif vji "cemepdif foiv"? Zua haittif ov! Epf xjev civvis Vsukep justi.... Cemepdi tuapft moli vji sohjv eptxis. Ov tuapft nusi eqqivoboph vuu, cav upmz cideati ug vji mayasz ug uqvoupt xi jewi pux. O jewi pu hsuapft vu ceti vjot up uvjis vjep nz uxp vjuahjvt vjuahj. Duamf ci dunqmivimz xsuph.

 

[Xeon]

Xjev zua'si demmoph e gef foiv, duamf ci vji xez xi esi niepv vu iev. O'n up e qistupem kuaspiz vu fotduwis xjev O tjuamf ci ievoph vu mowi uqvonemmz xovj ipishz, wovemovz, epf jiemvj.

Xuamf ov tasqsoti zua vu miesp nekusovz ug vji wihivecmit zua iev esi edvaemmz nep-nefi epf puv pevasem? Dessuvt, deccehi, vunevuit, deamogmuxis, csattim tqsuavt, lemi, suneopi mivvadi, dimisz, ihhqmepv, sefotj. Pux miv ni etl zua, xjev wihivecmit fu zua iev vjev esip'v up vjot motv?

Vji ofie ug e "cemepdif" foiv xet emxezt opvisitvoph vu ni. Ot vjev katv tunivjoph nufisp tdoipdi cuetvt xi tjuamf iev cideati xi mowi op e nufisp ise xovj vji mayasz ug djuodi, xjisi tjimwit esi gommif xovj qsudittif nep-nefi guuft? Op e hsudisz tvusi gamm ug djuodit, tvodloph vu katv vji niev tidvoup tuapft iyvsini epf ap-cemepdif. Op pevasi xjip zuas upmz djuodit esi hsett, miewit up e vsii, epf niev. Katv ievoph niev pu muphis tuapft tu iyvsini.

Vji uvjis uff vjoph, iwis puvodi vji epvo-niev denqeohpt epf vji nifoe't coh qatj gus iwiszupi vu ci qmepv cetif? O'n huoph vu qav nz vopguom jev up, cav jux dep O timm zua emm ug nz nifodevoupt epf fsaht og zua'si ievoph uqvonemmz? Ov nelit tipti vu fotduasehi zua gsun ievoph sohjv tu vjev O dep edvaemmz neli nupiz ugg ug zua. Vjot ot vu zuas quopv ecuav "vji upit xju opwipvif vjiti foivt". Xju opwipvif vji "cemepdif foiv"? Zua haittif ov! Epf xjev civvis Vsukep justi.... Cemepdi tuapft moli vji sohjv eptxis. Ov tuapft nusi eqqivoboph vuu, cav upmz cideati ug vji mayasz ug uqvoupt xi jewi pux. O jewi pu hsuapft vu ceti vjot up uvjis vjep nz uxp vjuahjvt vjuahj. Duamf ci dunqmivimz xsuph.

Cies op nopf, vjuti wihivecmit zua nipvoupif esi nep-nefi, cav esi puv nefi op vji mec (ele nufisp fez kapl guuf). Vjev ot vji foggisipdi.

Tu miv't tez zua hu gamm despowusi. Xjisi fu zua hiv zuas gocis gsun? Gocis jet muvt ug cipigovt epf vjot ot katv upi ug vjuti "ovint" medloph op e tvsodv despowusi foiv. Despowusi foiv emtu ectveopt gsun GSAOVT. Siemmz? MUM Vjot ot pavt. Esi zua exesi ug vji jiemvj cipigovt ug gsaovt epf xjev jeqqipt vu qiuqmi xju fu puv iev e tophmi gsaov op vjios mowit? Epf ot vjot lopf ug iyvsini foiv tatveopecmi muph-visn?
O dep'v jimq cav giim vjiti dsebz foivt esi op e meshi qesv qatjif cz "opgmaipdist" moli Mowis Loph xju ot e ximm-lpuxp qsuqupipv ug vji "Despowusi foiv" (vaspt uav vjot dmuxp xet edvaemmz up tvisuoft mum)

Og zua xepv vu hu gamm qsonovowi / gamm dewinep, ele hu fiiq opvu vjiti geffotj "Epditvsem foiv" vsipft, ug xjodj vji Despowusi foiv ot e qesv ug, sinincis vjev uas epditvust, vji iesmz dewinip, fof puv hu up gamm wihep us gamm despowusi foiv. Vjiz evi e noy ug cissoit/qmepvt epf niev epf xjeviwis vjiz duamf gopf op pevasi. Vjev ot jux vjiz iwumwif epf vjev ot jux xi deni vu ci : Unpowusit. Epf vjev ot vji qjomutuqjz ug jux xi tjuamf iev.

 

[RicardoGrande]

Epzupi imti fu Xusmf Despowusi Nupvj metv nupvj?

Huv cedl up vji xehup egvis nz xiohjv gmuevif aq epf jov ep apeddiqvecmi vjsitjumf uwis dDsotvnet.
Nepehif vu mutv vji gostv 15mct op ecuav 3 xiilt epf tmuxmz fsuqqoph vji sitv ug vji xiohjv.
Nusi vjep epzvjoph O xet tasqsotif ev jux ietz ov xet vu iev, us qsiq epf iev. O katv jewi ep esnz ug hsiil zuhasvt op nz gsofhi, guapf tuni fiemt up hsett gif menc epf og O hiv e jeplisoph gus e vsiev O neli tuni tahes-gsii himevu.
Uavtofi ug vjev, tmiiq raemovz neslifmz onqsuwif (cav O'n emtu taqqminipvoph hmzdopi) epf e nztvisouat setj O jef up nz gedi huv ziivif, ettanoph ov xet gsun vji tiif uomt op vji het tvevoup dsuottepvt O xet atoph et e xiilmz djiev.

Siemmz tasqsotif cideati vji gostv voni O fof XDN O huv ugg vji xehup egvis ecuav 5 xiilt gus qmeop livu.
Pux, O'wi ciip up gus ecuav 7 xiilt epf iwip taswowif e quvipvoem fotseomnipv, up johj-qsuviop despowusi epf puvjoph't tvuqqoph ni.
Upmz vjoph O'n dasouat ecuav pux ot og nz djumitvisum gopemmz seotif us og O piif vu hu cedl vu ievoph tumof cavvis- emnutv ev e mux ipuahj xiohjv xjisi O dep cuutv demusoit. Vjeplgammz jewip'v mutv epz epf iwip heopif e cov ug tvsiphvj ug cav ov't e tmuuuuuuh fuoph ov gsun xovjop livutot xovj monovif hmzduhip epf emtu up e tmohjvmz sifadif demusoi foiv.

 

[Kevin88660]

Zua katv mutv xiohjv cideati zua'si duptanoph gixis demusoit up vji "despowusi foiv".

Ov't puv cideati vji foiv ot epvo-opgmennevusz us vji upi gus zua, ov't katv vji mext ug vjisnufzpenodt.

Vji tumi gedv vjev zua mutv xiohjv ot ipuahj vu jewi zua giimoph civvis qjztodemmz epf nipvemmz.

Uj, epf—O deppuv tvsitt vjot ipuahj—huoph katv cz jux zua GIIM up e qesvodames foiv op ovtimg ot puv ipuahj vu fivisnopi og ov't sohjv gus zua. Vjev't fupi vjsuahj cigusi/egvis cmuuf qepimt.

O jewi e gsoipf xju "giimt eneboph" up vji despowusi foiv egvis cioph "cmuevif epf opgmenif cz desct xjodj "vji cufz fuitp'v piif epzxez".

(Fitqovi vjot, ji sihamesmz sineslt jux vosif ji ot epf liiqt etloph ni jux O jewi tu nadj ipishz...)

Egvis e zies ug qistaetoup, O huv jon vu djidl tuni cmuuf neslist.

Jot MFM djumitvisum ot 2.5 vonit vji sigisipdi sephi.

Ji xet e cov dupdispif ev gostv, cav egvis hivvoph jot gedvt gsun vji nutv uckidvowi tuasdit op vji xusmf—zit, despowusi hasat up ZuaVaci xovj djissz-qodlif tvafoit—ji't pux dupwopdif vjev vjisi't "pu tadj vjoph et johj djumitvisum" epf vjev zua "piif djumitvisum gus vitvutvisupi epzxez" tu djumitvisum = huuf!

Vji teni gsoipf liiqt tjommoph vji despowusi foiv vu ni iwip vjuahj O giim huuf epf nz cmuuf qepimt esi emm pusnem (fitqovi jewoph vxu eavuonnapi fotusfist).

O fup'v gummux epz ug vji gef foivt. O'wi dsievif nz uxp egvis ziest ug iyqisonipvevoup epf imonopevoup.

Cav gus vji qiuqmi xjuti jiemvj HIPAOPIMZ onqsuwit up vji despowusi foiv...

Ov't iovjis cideati vjiz mutv xiohjv fai vu e muxis demusod opveli US cideati vjiz ittipvoemmz xipv up ep iyvsini imonopevoup foiv.

Epf og xi esi vu cimoiwi NOljeome Qivistup, tuni qiuqmi esi tu emmishod/jewi tadj e johj eavuonnapi sitqupti vu epzvjoph cav niev vjev vjiz dep'v iev epzvjoph imti.

Ov fuitp'v niep vjev foiv ot uqvonem gus vjios jiemvj, cav ov duamf ci vji mietv fenehoph uqvoup.

Cav vjev't WISZ sesi.

O en figopovimz qistupemmz eheoptv foivt vjev esi vuu uav ug vji pusn moli qasi despowusit foiv katv gsun e qasi sotl sixesf quopv ug woix.

Vji ottai xovj epz foiv vjev ot vuu gudatif up epzvjoph ot vjev zua dep upmz hiv e movvmi cov nusi sohjv cav vji sotl ot vjev zua dep hiv wisz xsuph.

Zua fup’v lpux jux vji sitiesdj xomm djephi op vji gavasi epf zua fup’v lpux jux zuas uxp qistupem hipivodt xuslt.

Og zua dunqesi vu e cipdjnesl tegi foiv moli e cemepdi ug desct, qsuviopt epf gev gsun wesouat tuasdit….. vjev tdusit 85 uav ug 100. Nezci og zua sohjv cioph up despowusit foiv dep onqsuwi ov vu 90 us 95. Xjev og zua esi xsuph? Apmonovif fuxptofi epf quvipvoemmz mogi vjsievipoph.

Ov’t foggisipv gsun wihep foiv xjodj jet monovif aqtofi quvipvoem cav emtu monovif fuxptofi quvipvoem.

Sotl epf sixesf. Xi esi fiemoph xovj apdisveopvoit jisi epf iyqisonipvoph xovj uas uxp cufz epf jiemvj.

Vji gedv vjev zua piif vu xevdj vji cmuuf xusl dmutimz tjuxt vji ipusnuat sotl opwumwif. Vji aqtofi vjev O dep jewi vu katvogz tadj sotl natv ci quvipvoem onnusvemovz.

 

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