Mentor ?!?!?!?! Please

[randomnumber314]

Sure. Here are the tasks:

1. Read The Millionaire Fastlane
2. Become an INSIDERS, read all the gold threads.
3. Read the Most Views Threads (last 360 days)
4. Read all the popular content
5. Read every post by MJ, Vigilante, zen*******, JackEdward
6. While doing #5, read the posts by the other heavy hitters in those threads.

Once you complete the above tasks, we can talk about where you're at and what your goals are. I will either personally mentor you, or put you in touch with someone who has experience in what you want to do, or can offer you mentorship in the direction you want to go.

Everything I just wrote is 100% serious.

 

[GuestUser113]

600k part deuce

 

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[Spazz]

Update - Random has been nice enough to help me with an exercise. "So here's how you're going to start. Buy something from craigslist, thrift shop, I don't care--but you have to buy it--and sell it somewhere to try to make money. After you PM that stuff, buy something tomorrow, and sell it this weekend".

Random I hope you don't mind me posting in the thread. I will follow up with your PM later. I just tried to get a jump on this asap. As a result I browsed the classifieds and bought a utility trailer (pictures are attached) for $225. Hopefully, I can sell it for $350. The guy dropped it off an hour ago and I posted my own ad's a day prior and have 2 guys coming to see it this afternoon.

Ill keep you guys posted.

UPDATE - utility trailer is SOLD. We settled on $300 but what can you do. Profit of $75. The guys hitching it to his truck right now.

 

[davedev]

Not much of a podcast guy, besides my pastors, however, I listened to a ton of Pat Flynn's when he was mentioned in a couple of threads on here

Ok time to change that. Why? Think of podcasts as 'free media that feeds you free ideas'. To preface, the goal isn't to waste away in front of the computer with these hr long podcasts...that would be bad..

But sometimes I've found that just with a skim of the titles you catch hold of really cool ideas / concepts by cool people. Here are some of my favorites. (copied from some other thread).

ForeverJobless
Mixergy
The Bright Ideas Podcast
Startups For The Rest Of Us
Seth Godin's Startup School
Tropical MBA
eCommerceFuel
The Smart Passive Income Podcast
Entrepreneur on Fire

 

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[pickeringmt]

Hey, just my 2 cents - this sounds way more like a follow through/ accountability issue than a lack of mentorship.

Everybody feels the way you do. People make millions capitalizing on the desire of people just like you to have things figured out for them before they start.

You need to do more than just "have ideas", "think about doing X", and doing a little ground work and then quitting. This is all in TMF .

You can make yourself more accountable with stuff like Todo lists and goal setting - but in the end it all comes down to committing to the process of creating success.

You said you have read everything on the forum by MJ- either you missed THIS or need to read it again.

There is nothing pleasant about giving everything you have to make your dreams come true. None of this is easy, but it is worth it.

Most people spend there lives doing what they want instead of getting what they want.

Pick something, get a small course or book, and commit to seeing it through. This stuff takes years of focus, not weeks of wanting.

I genuinely hope that this helps. I've been where you are, and it sucks. But the only one that can pull you out is you, and that pain you feel is actually just unfocused desire/passion.

 

[ZCP]

@randomnumber314 be sure to cover Ferrari color early on.....

 

[Vick]

I have thought of selling on amazon

then do it.

@biophase created a business within a few months time, that was generating profit on Amazon. From selling F*ckin soap.

Buy something for $1 sell it for $3. Learn. Move on.

I contacted a number of manufactures on alibaba. I received quotes for baby diapers and baby wipes. Then I requested quotes for playdo and kids toys. Ive looked at custom tshirts.

Why so many dif niches. You need to focus like a F*ckin laser on something. and it should be something you find somewhat interesting, otherwise you won't commit as much effort and you'll get bored quickly. some people would disagree with this statement somewhat, but trust me on this, you'll have a much easy time selling something that you have an interest in, there's high value products for everything. The world is a big place.

Then I tried to follow limitup's advise to find a profitable product and work in reverse order and copy it and thats when I ended up with that piece of junk link that I started with

brush it off. start again.

Look at all the failures @MJ DeMarco went through, and he didn't have a forum where people could pat his back, or give him guidance. As far as I know anyway.

Suck it up. Keep grinding.

I get that you need a little guidance. That's fine.

But don't depend on it. And don't ask someone you don't even know to dictate your entire day for you. Regardless of how many times you've tried stuff and failed.

You don't even know this person. You said 'Yes' to the first person. Like wtf.

You don't need a mentor.

You need self esteem. And some focus.

Keep searching for your product.

It will find you.

 

[biophase]

If you give a kid a hockey stick and tell him to go play hockey, no matter how hard he runs and flails the stick around he wont play the game. Someone needs to show him how.

Your analogy is wrong here. I can read books and learn how to dribble, shoot and pass. I could become the best shooting around shooter, but none of that matters until you get into a pick up bball game. You are a kid with a hockey stick with unlimited books and videos showing you how to play hockey, you even have coaches online that will evaluate your skills. But what are they going to evaluate, you skating in a rink all day, shooting pucks? You yourself have to go to the rink and step on the ice and play with the big boys. How do you expect a coach to help you if you skate by yourself all day.

I read Biophases thread, which was impressive (he even sold his company), however biophase to my knowledge has an pretty established business background and experience.

You know this is bull. You do know there was a copycat that copied my business based on the thread right? That itself proves you wrong. The reason I started that thread and wrote it down step by step was to show you that there were no special skills involved there. Please point out in which posts on that thread where my background and experience helped me and I'll counter your argument.

BTW, not trying to sound mean here. Just trying to push you through your own barriers.

 

[randomnumber314]

Is this going to be the first ever successful "I need a mentor" thread?

If so, it's only because Spazz is taking action and doing something. He doesn't need a mentor, he just needed to hear that and believe in himself. Look, he made $75 in a day. If he keeps doing just that he'll add $2,100 to his monthly income...because he believed in himself and he took risk. No one told him what to buy, no one told him how much to spend--he figured it out, and quite geniously!

 

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[Spazz]

How did you list the trailer: repost on CL, placed in your yard with a for sale sign, already had it sold prior to buying it, ... Thanks for the update.



Hey,

Good question. I read Random's msg at around 8:30 pm yesterday. I went online and checked the classifieds in my area (specifically focusing on trailers with "quick sell" in the ad) I found the above trailer for sale and compared the price to a number of other similar sized trailers. I called the ad and then gave him a low ball offer because he was in need of a quick sale. He took it over the phone and said he would drop it off in the morning.

I then immediately posted an add selling that trailer on another classifieds website. This morning I received 2 calls from interested buyers and scheduled them to come in the afternoon.

The original owner dropped the trailer off around 1:30 pm. Only one customer showed up to buy it from and luckily he bought it. He strong armed me to lower it $50 but I didnt want that shit trailer in my driveway any longer then it had to be.

I think I really just lucked out on this for such a short turn around. I figured at could sell the trailer because it was priced low but I thought I'd have to hold on to it for a couple weeks.

My wife's face was priceless when it get dropped of this morning lol

Hope that answers your question

 

[jon.a]

No, no, no!
You aren't supposed to actually do shit.

 

[RHL]

Check out the link, I just spent the last two days working on this garbage

Is there anyone that can mentor me? give me tasks

 

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[randomnumber314]

If there is anyone that could take the time to help me, I would appreciate it.

Didn't I just offer that?

 

[Oven]

Entrepreneurship isn't hard because it's a lot of work, you should expect that going into it and I think for the most part everyone does. Having a good work rate is just a part of the equation. What separates those that are successful from those that aren't is the ability to adapt after not just the first failure but the tenth. The best internet marketer in the world can sit down and talk with you for 5 hours straight and give you the most amazing advice but it won't mean anything at all if you don't take action and learn to fail.

I actually disagree with a lot of people on this forum that are telling you to read/listen more, it seems like you've read enough. Stop worrying about failure and start actually taking action, you did it once when you built a site for that crap you linked in your first post and you feel like shit because you failed. You likely came here right after the failure and asked for a mentor because you lost confidence in yourself.

Sure a good mentor would have stopped you from falling for that obvious garbage but it's so much better for you to figure it out on your own. If you hated that feeling of failure, I'm sorry but entrepreneurship isn't for you. Don't forget that the statistic is something like 90% of businesses fail within the first 3 years so if you start ten businesses and one succeeds, you're not doing too bad.

In reference to sports this is a quote from Mark Cuban, “The thrill of victory in business blows away the thrill of victory in sports. Business is a sport 24/7/365” basically "business is a 24/7 job where someone is always out there to kick your a$$."

I don't want to say what's easier business or sports because I've never been a professional athlete but business takes a lot more than a good work effort and most people don't realize that going into it. Good luck.

 

[Spazz]

ok your right

Update - Random has been nice enough to help me with an exercise. "So here's how you're going to start. Buy something from craigslist, thrift shop, I don't care--but you have to buy it--and sell it somewhere to try to make money. After you PM that stuff, buy something tomorrow, and sell it this weekend".

Random I hope you don't mind me posting in the thread. I will follow up with your PM later. I just tried to get a jump on this asap. As a result I browsed the classifieds and bought a utility trailer (pictures are attached) for $225. Hopefully, I can sell it for $350. The guy dropped it off an hour ago and I posted my own ad's a day prior and have 2 guys coming to see it this afternoon.

Ill keep you guys posted.

 

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[MMatt]

Is this going to be the first ever successful "I need a mentor" thread?

 

[davedev]

Awesome stuff @Spazz.

Rep'd

 

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[Nathan Douglas]

@Spazz

To add on to Randoms post, go visit MJ DeMarco's Youtube channel. There is one piece of advice that has stuck to me personally, which is solve your problems as you face them, or somewhere along the lines of that. It means learn and grow as you go, and that has definitely stuck to me. Hopefully we will see you contributing some awesome threads in the future, and I wish you the best!

 

[randomnumber314]

Is this part of the mentor ship?

Yes. Stop stalling.

 

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[DeletedUser394]

Truthfully 'becoming an INSIDERS' when a person is so clearly out of touch probably isn't going to do much of anything for the person.

 

[KLaw]

It's obvious you have read and absorbed some of the material on this board. Nothing wrong with asking for help. You definitely sound like you got the drive but want a little hand-holding. One of the best pieces of advice I've gotten from a member of this forum (@Get Right ) was just start and finish something. Anything - it doesn't matter. The key is to finish but you can't finish if you don't start. BTW, I've started a lot but have yet to finish. Still have to work on my focus. Good luck and I look forward to your progress.

 

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[SJVC]

@Spazz... Sounds like you need to calm down a bit man. I mean I appreciate your enthusiasm but it sounds like you are running around like a headless chicken at the moment.

My advice for you is:

1. Find ONE product that you think you can sell for a profit. If it works great, go find another one. But get the fundamentals down first.
2. What @Vick said about @biophase's post about the soap company is really gold. You said the internet is a different ball game? It's the same ball game. Sell something for more than you paid for it. You are not going to be making big $$$ right away but once you understand how to source one product and sell it at a profit you can do it again and again.

Most people don't have a mentor by the way either. I'm not going to say anymore because you have plenty of actionable advice.

 

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[RogueInnovation]

If you give a kid a hockey stick and tell him to go play hockey, no matter how hard he runs and flails the stick around he wont play the game. Someone needs to show him how.

You played pro?
Nice

You know what grit means and the grind. And yeah biz is a different game.
In pro sports there is a stick, techniques for how to skate etc and then rules of the game.
When you are playin little leagues its all just about fun, then as you get to highschool you start understanding the ref, the audience, who scores what, stats, cheerleaders.

Thats where most guys drop off. It becomes this cyclone of hassles, and the grit you leave on the field turns into bumps and bruised joints, and you lose that whole little league crowd supporting you for a while.

You get dug into the task though, you seperate tasks, focus on them and strive to be damn good at what you do, and the results shape the player you become. And then while playing in your own world you get picked. Then you drive hard at the issue, and get fn drilled 24/7, lol.

Then its stadiums and crowds and "damn don't f up!".
You do f up, and stuff runs by really fast and if you don't keep up you get kicked out.
But if you do keep up, you start to realise your own power, and you strive for greatness in the way you define it.


Here is how biz is similar:
You start out expecting little league support (this thread)
But the heart drop, is that you are actually behind spaz. Like, actually.
But you do have one thing (like I had) previous experience with success.
And that can take you to success, but first you have to quit pleading to an imaginary little league and work to be your own damn brilliant athlete who will fn crush the requirements of when you go pro.

I started here thinking I'd just launch a business idea to a hundred thousand people. But it was retarded of me to think that would be enough. Since then I ground away at my own ignorance, trying to put spine and substance behind my work, so that as a ceo I deserved success.
I stopped resting on my laurels of past success and earned some small starting success in this new field. And NOW my inner athletic experience is coming back out, in the form of obsessing on the right details. You'll get there too if you can stomach the bitch slap of truth long enough that you build a real process for yourself and start to see the real game here.


You have to let go of your want for this to be little league, or your want for the pro coach to adopt you as a biddy little leaguer and make a machine outta you.
You have to get to the pros first.
And that means getting to that headache zone that you got to near the end of highschool.
Where there are audiences, stats, and bs competition.

You have to hold your own in that world and then EXCEED the efforts of the chumps that don't get serious about this stuff.
Then after you train your elements, you'll form the player you are, and then if you get mentored or you take to the game yourself, you'll get drilled!!!
And you'll get overtaken... And you'll be threatened with being spat out.

You hear me?


Get up here. Then you'll know what to do.

 

[randomnumber314]

I know we see these threads a lot, and we like to jump on people's audacity to be in the wrong mindset. I agree, bad questions suck (I learned that from Zen)

I offered to mentor spazz because I see a little of lost and neurotic me in his post. I'm by no means a seasoned veteran of business, but I do remember a distinct point when my outlook/mindset shifted and what I had to do made sense. INSIDERS may have seen my progress thread, and know I'm on my way to something. I hope to provide a little value back to the community by giving spazz a few things to do, to change his mindset, not a checklist to start a business.

Am I wrong or right for the offer? Time will tell. In either case, I have a little extra time here and there that I am more than happy to spend helping someone else realize the value in these threads, and how to change the way you think in order to realize that value.

 

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[AllenCrawley]

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[Spazz]

Truthfully 'becoming an INSIDERS' when a person is so clearly out of touch probably isn't going to do much of anything for the person.

Well I just did it !!!

Next Task ?!?!?1

 

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[randomnumber314]

Read the threads. Let's pm tomorrow and use this as your progress thread.

 

[Mattie]

That's the point there, our society programs you to start asking everyone else what to do. You have to be self-reliant. Seek out the answers yourself. Do your research yourself. Learn to trust you. If you're always asking everyone else for direction you never learn to do anything on your own. Google will give you a top list of books in any subject, top podcasts, blogs, radio streams. Use your key words. There maybe something you need guidance on, but there's a lot of questions you can answer yourself first by looking for it. If you can't find the answer after to doing things yourself and get stuck, than look for guidance.

 

[Milkanic]

look at that, two of the podcasts/blogs already linked have answered this exact topic.

http://michaelhyatt.com/find-mentor.html
http://www.smartpassiveincome.com/mastermind-groups-and-mentors/

 

[RogueInnovation]

Thanks for that message. It really resonated with me and thanks for just taking the time to post that.

If you really want to unravel benefits of pro experience
I'll be around, I'm still workin it out, but I'd be glad to get some of my experience out of my head regarding how to get to the leagues in biz.

Random was pretty generous with his offer I think, but if you are anything like me, you'll really piss off mentors because of the stubborness you learnt from prior pro experience.

You are kinda starting with an early handicap and to balance that out you will get a later boon, but first you gotta survive the start.

Here is why that is going to be hard:
Coming from pro football you are going to be thinking everyone who ever achieves in business is a pro footballer, not literally, but I mean you are respecting us here as if we achieved what you did in pro football. We didn't, I didn't. I got to near pro in a few things, golf, boxing, and got to national level in rugby union and went further than that in some other stuff. I KINDA get where you are coming from, I just never grew up in america so never played pro football (lol always wished I did though, is a cool game).

So anyways, at first you give everyone respect like they are a football star themselves, but they aren't so any d#ckish bs sleights they hand off to you, you are going to take personally as a sleight to your integrity as an athlete etc. But these guys here aren't pro footballers, they all have a lot to learn, and for most its their first taste of real success and what that takes.

You have to hold yourself back from using your clout(authority) in pro football here, and respect that you are dealing with football newbs here.

... Here, you are a biz newb, and dudes are just going to rain on you all day long until you no longer are painting a target on your #ss.


You are not going to get respect as a footballer from these guys, its too much info for these guys to take in. And they also kinda take potshots at the sidewalker mentality loads of footballers have, so would like nothing better than to slap a sticker on your head and say "yet another sidewalker".

UNTIL, you build (slow build) some actual respect by sticking around and doing work.
Then after that, the fact you are a footballer won't matter, it'll be your business sense that matters and that they interact with.


Guys here do jump on newbs (who the h#ll knows why) but don't worry about that stuff too much, cuz the posters are good and decent people who can help you figure things out.
You just need to get out of the sideshow bs first. Take this stuff more serious and show by showing up that you aren't out for a quick buck, but in this for the long haul of building a true company.

Build your patience bro, you gonna need some


These guys below give a d#mn about you succeeding, and have given their best here
You have to not ask for more than this
Start a progress thread, be polite to random, maybe he'll help you there, and if you do sh#t I'll try to chime in over there.

Give this a real shot, suggest a life for yourself
Control that paycheque
Inspire us man, show us what you jock's can do

Around the world's great recent post
https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/this-is-why-you-are-stuck.53188/

MJs
I can't make you life decisons for you (hmm can't find it right now)

Enaekas recent posts are amazing too
https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/co...what-do-i-do-threads.52906/page-2#post-377954

https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/co...ty-honda-for-a-viper.53338/page-2#post-381145