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However, the line between the script/s and the social rules we fashioned over millennia for the sake of stabilising ourselves is very blurred. Certainly marriage is used and manipulated by many different scripts for different purposes.
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This is part of what I find myself questioning - Yes, it was a form to stabilize society, but as society progresses, marriage may or may not hold the same purpose. What I am trying to understand is the purpose of engaging in a marriage past the superficiality, business, and government ties. How does a marriage bring any additional value vs having a solid relationship without being married.<br />
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Maybe millennials have been scripted to believe institutions and behavior patterns that have ensured the survival of the species for millennia have suddenly become obsolete in the last 30 years.
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I would argue that marriage does the opposite. Monogamy in nature is an extremely rare occurance - biologically, the best way to ensure the survival of a species is to reproduce. Monogamy minimizes that possibility. <span style="font-size: 12px"><i>(I would like to not derail this discussion into monogamy into polygamy as it is not the purpose of the thread)</i><br />
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I would never do it again. Elope. Get married on a beach or a mountain or<b> the frickin moon</b> and don’t invite anyone. Getting married is about the couple, not making guests happy....
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</blockquote>Still waiting for Elon Musk to create this startup... <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><br />
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Yes, Marriage & kids <i>IS</i> part of the Script. But it's about Society's specific ideas that you should get married and what that entails - not the marriage/kids specifically.
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</blockquote>Historically, there is an underlying script that narrates "Do not have kids if you are not married."<br />
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There is a specific word in the human language for a child born out of wedlock. I can see how marriage brings stability for the child and provides security in their youth though. <br />
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You guys may think marriage is a script but if you dig for the truth in the roots of feminism you will find that it's original goal was to destroy marriages and "liberate" woman from men. Its result has been many unhappy and unfulfilled women and men.<br />
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The merits of government contract can be debated. But I think the societal and child rearing benefit of strong and proper marriage is huge.<br />
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It is also hugely important for the outcome of the children. Children with single mothers by a wide margin perform more poorly in school, are more likely to become an addict, more likely to wind up in jail, just more likely to mis behave and make bad decisions in general.<br />
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You certainly don't want to be in an unfulfilling relationship. But don't be jaded and believe that fulfilling monogamous relationships do not exist. They do. BUT they are impossible if you don't have your own life together and if you conform to modern "politically correct" expectations.<br />
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1. Modern Scripted Society creates weak men.<br />
2. Modern scripted society creates entitled, egotistical (in their own eyes faultless) women.<br />
3. Pairing an egotistical woman with a weak man results in a miserable unhappy relationship for both.<br />
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An unscripted man needs an unscripted woman.
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I have a strange way of thinking about these things, but often times I wonder<br />
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<b>What would society look like if the roles were reversed?</b><br />
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<b>That is to say, what if the majority of society did not get married? Would you still consider marriage as a part of spending your life together with the one you love? If all of the movies, tv shows, "the script," dictated that it is not the societal norm to go down the marriage route, would you still consider marriage as a logical, viable path?</b><br />
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I'd like to stray away from discussions about divorce, and the negatives that surround splitting. We all know it sucks. People lose money. Assets split. Yada-Yada.</div>
