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Is Marriage Part of the Script?

Discussion in 'General Mindset, Motivation, Beliefs' started by TKDTyler, Apr 12, 2018.

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    Marriage isn't part of the script, but the way weddings are "supposed" to be are.

    W/out sharing how my full view, I think marriage is there for focus (when you lack self control like me, nice to have a "release point anytime lol), but more importantly marriage is about sharing your life, your journey w/ your best friend/partner and setting an example for your offspring.

    My wife is my partner in everything we do. I'm young (30), been married 5 years, 1 kid, and having a family really does make you go to another level... As long as you don't use your family as an excuse to suck.

    But, marriage isn't for everyone. Some people are better off solo, and I'm sure it's easier for some to focus on building their vision if they don't need to make time for family and if they can keep their minds off chasing tail.

    Now, Spending a bunch of $ on weddings that you don't have for people to have a meal is dumb, is a more modern invention all about status (there's a great Adam Ruins Everything on this
    View: https://youtu.be/O5BeLinyfpg
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    I deeply encourage anyone pondering the question in the title of this thread to do the following...

    Read The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi.

    That advice is specially for you if you failed in a bunch of relationships or if you believe in soulmates, long distance relationships or the "you need to get married to be happy" myth imposed by the script.

    I believe every man should learn about the real dynamics of sexuality and relationships. Anyone who even asks "Is marriage part of the script?" has a great need for the information that is in that book.

    It's not about if marriage is part of the script, it's about knowing your options. You can be married or not married and be happy or miserable with both.
     
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    I speculate it's one of those grass is always green type of things. has its pros and cons.

    personally I would get married if I was going to have kids, otherwise no
     
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    Finally the redpill has been entered into the forum. Guys before you do anything foolish you need to be watching MGTOW content on youtube. I stumbled onto it because I was disgusted with how my friends were being treated in the dating game and it's completely changed the way that I look at our modern society. Technology speaking things are awesome. Socially speaking things feel very lacking; at least after you start to consume this type of content:

    MEN 101
     
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    Yep. I can’t stress this enough. Weddings suck. I would have rather blown our wedding money on an even more ridiculous diamond than I already got her. It makes people uncomfortable as is, and I kind of like that.
    :cool:

    Interestingly, I read an article the other day... The three biggest times rational spending is thrown out the window due to emotional bullshit... Births, weddings and deaths. Force a level head at all times when it comes to money decisions.
     
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    weddings can be culturally significant; in eastern cultures/traditions weddings are a huge deal. (maybe that is why divorce is less common there) yes there is obviously pomp and showy aspects of it, but cutlurally it is not part of the "script" IMHO for the majority in the east. In the west totally... it fits the mold. Spend spend spend and what makes matters worse is if it were to end in divorce then it ultimately a waste or a sunk cost.
     
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    Ultimately the answer is "it depends." If you feel like it's the "next step," and not something you want to do then it's probably the script. Otherwise, if you want to do it, it's not the script.

    Also, is this forum really going down the MGTOW/Incel/Redpill path?
     
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    I will married my GF because she support every move I make, and she has the same mindset as me. It’s all about the mindset. Elon musk has been married and divorced with kids, it didn’t stop him from achieving anything.
     
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    My take is that I don't care whether or not something is "the script." I care about whether or not it benefits me and not hurt other people. If the script gives me what I want in life more than other ideas then I would choose the script.

    Whether or not someone should get married is subjective because people typically don't marry purely for financial reasons. Whether it makes financial sense is another story and depends on many factors such as taxes, laws, gender, age, race, and wealth.

    Here are some stats. I'll keep my commentary on this gender neutral. Only the facts mention gender. You should look at the facts then decide if marriage makes financial sense for you.

    Fact: 97% of US alimony recipients are female.
    Source: More men get alimony from their ex-wives

    Fact: 37.7% of US women made more than their husband in 2009.
    Source: https://www.bls.gov/cps/wlf-table25-2011.pdf
    (How are 97% of alimony recipients one gender if this is the case?)

    Fact: In 2011, 32% of custodial men didn't receive child support while 25% of custodial females didn't receive child support.
    Source: Are Moms Less Likely Than Dads To Pay Child Support?

    Fact: In 2013, 52.3% of custodial single females were awarded child support while 31.4% of custodial males were awarded child support.
    Source: https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/P60-255.pdf

    Fact: A survey (and others) show that females initiate approximately 70% of divorces.
    Source: Women Initiate Divorce Much More Than Men, Here's Why
    (Law of control)

    Fact: Data shows that same sex female marriages are 2.5 times more likely to divorce than male marriages in England.
    Source: Female same-sex marriages more likely to end in divorce than male ones, figures reveal

    Fact: Estimates by some law firms put the average cost of divorce at around $15,000 to $30,000.
    Source: To Have And To Hold On To

    Fact: Some experts and reports show that the future projected divorce rate for marriages happening now should be around 40%-50%.
    Source: Steve Sweeney claims two-thirds of marriages end in divorce

    Also not mentioned is that many US states have provisions in the child support law that child support payments cannot be lowered below what a person has a substantial likelihood of earning. Which means that if you're paying child support and lose your job that doesn't mean child support payments may be lowered. The same can apply for a business owner. If your business goes south - too bad. Child support payments might also not be lowered for someone with a substantial amount of assets. So if you're paying child support for 15+ years you better hope that your income stays stable. There are however provisions in child support laws that child support payments may be increased if income increases.
    Source: 2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 19 - DOMESTIC RELATIONS :: CHAPTER 6 - ALIMONY AND CHILD SUPPORT :: ARTICLE 1 - GENERAL PROVISIONS :: § 19-6-15 - Child support in final verdict or decree; guidelines for determining amount of award; continuation of duty to provide support; duration of support

    One more thing not mentioned is that if the noncustodial parent and custodial parent both share 50% time. The noncustodial parent will typically pay only slightly less child support than if the noncustodial parent 0% time. You would think that there wouldn't be child support since both share 50% time. How much time spent with a child means very little in terms of child support.
     
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    Well that's because it's not actually child support. Women consume at a much much higher rate than men. The idea behind these laws is to make women the "middle-men" who forcibly transfer men's money to the government, financial elite, and other businessmen.

    Women don't need a long term partner anymore as long as this arrangement is in place. That doesn't mean they don't want one but they definitely don't need one if they have the government.
     
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    Lately I have been asking the same question.

    And I have found myself agreeing with Osho's sayings.

    Marriage Has Become a Battlefield

    “Marriage has failed because you could not rise to the standard that you were expecting of marriage, of the concept of marriage. You were brutal, you were, you were full of jealousies, you were full of lust; you had never known really what love is. In the name of love, you tried everything which is just the opposite of love: possessiveness, domination, power.

    “Marriage has become a battlefield where two persons are fighting for supremacy. Of course, the man has his own way: rough and more primitive. The woman has her own way: feminine, softer, a little more civilized, more subdued. But the situation is the same. Now psychologists are talking about marriage as an intimate enmity. And that’s what it has proved to be. Two enemies are living together pretending to be in love, expecting the other to give love; and the same is being expected by the other. Nobody is ready to give – nobody has it. How can you give love if you don’t have it?”


    Source - Osho Quotes on Marriage