Is Andrew Tate Legit Or Not?

[K1 Lambo]

Morning fellow fastlaners,

some of you may not be familiar with him, especially you older folks but you young guns (15-25) will be very familiar with him from IG, TikTok and YouTube. He's the most searched man on Google at the moment. Guy is obviously a very polarizing figure. You either love him or you hate him.

The reason why I'm asking this question is because as you may know, it is very important to listen to people who are legit and aren't pretenders(and there's a lot of them nowadays who pretend to be 20 something year old multi millionaires, being high ticket coaches etc).

I've been following this guy for over 6 months and listen to his material vey often(fanboy lol yes) during work and he is spot on with many points about masculinity, wealth, the matrix, elitism, women and so on. Which is probably why he has such a big following because he's speaking the truth and a part society who's unplugged from the matrix knows he's right 95% of the time with what he says.

For those of you who don't know who he is => He's a 4x world kickboxing champion who's retired now, started a webcam business in his late twenties, made millions of dollars there and now he's involved in some casino businesses, but his bread and butter are his coaching programs like the Hustlers University and the War Room. HU alone probably generates him around $6.5m a month.

But a big RED flag for me is the incongruency in how he started his Webcam business aka before he was rich. That's how you can find if a guru is real or not, it should be the same story every time. In every single podcast he's on, he always tells a slightly different story. On the second F & F podcast, he said he invited 6 of his gfs to his apartment, 2 of them stayed and a month later he was making $110k a month with those 2 girls(this was before his 4th world title fight so he was probably 26 at the time), and 9 months later he owned a Lambo, Ferrari, penthouse etc. And on the very first F & F podcast he said it took him 2 years to make his first million dollars(after his 4th world title fight, he retired from kickboxing), and then 3 years after it turned into a $30m empire with 75 girls working for him in 4 different premises. Then on the CEOCAST podcast he said he called a couple of girls and asked one of them who worked at Starbucks joined his webcam business, and 6 months later he had about 10 girls and was making $300k-$400k a month. While on another F & F podcast with Celina Powell, his brother Tristan said that 3 years later after they started it they were cash millionaires.

There was one YouTuber commenter in particular who said that his whole webcam story is made up AND he made his first tens of millions of dollars by selling courses, especially Hustlers University which was his first big break, and that allowed him to get to Bugatti Chiron level kind of money. It's also a great marketing tool if you think about it, no other money making guru owns a Bugatti. It's easy to post pictures of Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Private jets and all of that shit but a Bugatti? That brings him 2 levels above all the other gurus.

Some people say he's kind of like the new Tai Lopez. I think the truth is probably somewhere in between. He probably made his first millions in the webcam business but realized he could make WAY more with HU and the War Room by being this "alpha male multi millionaire" type of character which is why he's appearing on all these podcasts + it would free up his time, because managing 75 girls is a hassle so selling courses would free up hundreds of hours from his time, they run on their own basically. All you need is a lot of traffic.

I think MJ also said it in one of his books if I'm not mistaken; "Never trust someone who flashes his material posessions everywhere on social media, that is all a marketing tool to get you to buy his shit". I mean if he didn't care about money at all, he wouldn't be promoting his courses everywhere he goes.

And even speaking from experience, the wealthiest individuals I know have no social media at all. There's a guy in my town who is the only norwegian to own a Bugatti Veyron and has like 20 supercars, he doesn't even have FB. And the guys who do, usually have private profiles and barely flash their stuff because it's not new to them.

This is not a hate comment on Tate at all, the guy is obviously very smart(his dad was the best black chess player of all time). What do you think? Would love to hear your opinions.

 

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[Niptuck MD]

There's a guy in my town who is the only norwegian to own a Bugatti Veyron

Kos by bor du? Æ var i Stavanger to uker siden haha. Tok fjordline til Hirtshals. Hyggelig å møte dæ

 

[Joejordan95]

The guy is funny and he’s good at marketing (obviously).




I would take anything he says with a pinch of salt. He’s extremely comical but everyone seems to take him serious.

Someone else has a thread on here about his hustlers university and I think they said it was shit

 

[Choate]

There's a difference between adopting a "good guy, not nice guy" mindset which a lot of young men struggle to do versus going full Machiavellian red pill bro and this guy is the epitome of the latter.

The world is not black and white. You can look at Tate and see clearly that his systems are working. It might be worthwhile to glance at these systems and figure out what he did right. But it doesn't mean you need to follow or monetarily support the guy with questionable character that made a fortune by prostituting women online in Eastern Europe. That sort of behavior burdens society and leaves pieces that other men (and women) are going to have to clean up. A nuisance.

The advice and life lessons you are seeking aren't packaged in a neat, easy-to-digest $50/month guru course. They are found out in the world, in the muck of the grind, on the 300th page of a business book like Unscripted , or during a casual conversation with an experienced business owner where they open up about one facet of their business with you. They are found deep in forums like this one, but you have to be willing to filter out the noise and distractions of the modern day in order to find them.

 

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[Andy Black]

Here's a similar thread about Andrew Tate:

• GURUS - Andrew Tate's Hustlers University, Will it Benefit Me?

Reminds me of this thread about Tai Lopez:

• GURUS - WTF does Tai Lopez do?

 

[Matt Lee]

Like other gurus, what he says has a lot of half-truths and half-emotional pumps.

When we're emotional, we perceive half truths as the whole. His whole approach targets young men that do not have a solid foundation of who they are. In that way, they believe him like he preaches some new age gospel.

I think it's necessary to see what those truths are and recognize that they are, well incomplete. Like politicians. One promise one thing and other promise this, but who is right?

GRRR... woman BAD... MASCULINTY GUUD...

He's making you pick sides. That's how he will divide and conquer, and live in your head rent free.

 

[Itizn]

He's basically Dick Masterson with a better sales funnel.

 

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[Johnny boy]

You should be like him.

Would HE join someone else's pyramid scheme and be a fan boy?

No, he would see someone he likes and say "I agree", then go out and do cool shit and live his own life.

That's what you should do. Agree, learn something, say "nice", and then go do cool shit and live your own life, and not join a pyramid scheme.

 

[Niptuck MD]

That's how he will divide and conquer, and live in your head rent free.

That means he has fulfilled his job as influencer right?

 

[DragoonDB]

Legit or not isn't the question - especially when it comes to the internet. Look for what you find to be valuable, and discard the rest; and understand that whatever bias you have on a person/topic have will govern that decision.

First always: Always be diligent about opening your wallet (and don't do it when you're high on emotion).

Second always: Don't be a fanboy. Everyone is just a person, and everyone has flaws. Never put anyone on a pedestal. You can listen to others, but always do your own thinking.

 

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[K1 Lambo]

Kos by bor du? Æ var i Stavanger to uker siden haha. Tok fjordline til Hirtshals. Hyggelig å møte dæ

Heihei kompis, jepp stemmer det . Det er fin by altså, spesielt hvis du går litt ut i fjellet og sånt. Hyggelig å møte deg også. Er du fra Danmark?

 

[K1 Lambo]

There's a difference between adopting a "good guy, not nice guy" mindset which a lot of young men struggle to do versus going full Machiavellian red pill bro and this guy is the epitome of the latter.

The world is not black and white. You can look at Tate and see clearly that his systems are working. It might be worthwhile to glance at these systems and figure out what he did right. But it doesn't mean you need to follow or monetarily support the guy with questionable character that made a fortune by prostituting women online in Eastern Europe. That sort of behavior burdens society and leaves pieces that other men (and women) are going to have to clean up. A nuisance.

The advice and life lessons you are seeking aren't packaged in a neat, easy-to-digest $50/month guru course. They are found out in the world, in the muck of the grind, on the 300th page of a business book like Unscripted , or during a casual conversation with an experienced business owner where they open up about one facet of their business with you. They are found deep in forums like this one, but you have to be willing to filter out the noise and distractions of the modern day in order to find them.

That's a very intelligent answer my friend. Yeah that's why I'm asking since a lot of the stuff he talks about interferes with what MJ's books are all about (the matrix, being unscripted , elitism, propaganda, wealth etc.), it's a whole bunch of stuff. He's also kind of different from all the other gurus since he's found this machiavellian niche, where he's on the very left side of the red pill spectrum. And just like what you said, there's a balance there.

Funny enough, I had no clue that webcam even existed, where you have a bunch of men(usually in good paying jobs like surgeons, doctors, dentists, lawyers, police officers etc., using tate's words here) who are paying these women online just to talk to them. But it's a never dying industry, there will always be a demand for a service like that.

 

[K1 Lambo]

Like other gurus, what he says has a lot of half-truths and half-emotional pumps.

When we're emotional, we perceive half truths as the whole. His whole approach targets young men that do not have a solid foundation of who they are. In that way, they believe him like he preaches some new age gospel.

I think it's necessary to see what those truths are and recognize that they are, well incomplete. Like politicians. One promise one thing and other promise this, but who is right?

GRRR... woman BAD... MASCULINTY GUUD...

He's making you pick sides. That's how he will divide and conquer, and live in your head rent free.

Yeah, he's obviously targeting young men (15-30) who have been struggling their whole life and are looking for a way out. And he's doing a damn good job at creating his loyal soldiers. And like you said, most of the things he's talking about have been told by other gurus but he speaks them in such conviction and emotionality that his message gets delivered much better by the audience.

 

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[K1 Lambo]

Legit or not isn't the question - especially when it comes to the internet. Look for what you find to be valuable, and discard the rest; and understand that whatever bias you have on a person/topic have will govern that decision.

First always: Always be diligent about opening your wallet (and don't do it when you're high on emotion).

Second always: Don't be a fanboy. Everyone is just a person, and everyone has flaws. Never put anyone on a pedestal. You can listen to others, but always do your own thinking.

Yeah, you might be right about that one. I'm actually thinking of joining his War Room program. Guy does speak a lot of truths though.

 

[Niptuck MD]

Heihei kompis, jepp stemmer det . Det er fin by altså, spesielt hvis du går litt ut i fjellet og sånt. Hyggelig å møte deg også. Er du fra Danmark?

Nei eg er amerikansk desverre men har bodd nordover i steinkjer og også bergen for de siste fem årene. Hadde solgt min del av en anlægsvirksomhed til å fokusere om min pasjon

 

[K1 Lambo]

Nei eg er amerikansk desverre men har bodd nordover i steinkjer og også bergen for de siste fem årene. Hadde solgt min del av en anlægsvirksomhed til å fokusere om min pasjon

En Amerikansk fyr som bor i Norge? Det er faktisk litt sjeldent asså . Vi hadde faktisk noen Amerikanske naboer for rundt 13-14 år siden når vi kom her som immigranter, de var veldig hyggelige folk! Moren min fikk møte også en fyr fra Amerika som har bodd i Norge i flere år(det var rundt 3-4 år siden nå). Grunnen? Han likte fjell og kaldt vær. Husker han kjøpte også en Lamborghini for flere år siden som har gått opp enormt i verdi. Tror det var en Lamborghini Countach. Kjekt å møte deg då!

 

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[Consolation]

Nah.. he's just another Tai Lopez-like.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Andrew Tate is legit at being charming, funny, and being great at marketing. You can learn a lot from what he does (though not necessarily what he says).

Also, by his own admission, he made his early money from cam girls and casinos - not exactly wholesome industries, so I have trouble trusting him due to his early businesses alone.

 

[Niptuck MD]

And now its reported he is banned from insta and fb.... see how this goes.. sure he will rebound but lack of control in that ecosystem is detrimental in todays bullshit politically correct society

 

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[DougRMR]

Morning fellow fastlaners,

some of you may not be familiar with him, especially you older folks but you young guns (15-25) will be very familiar with him from IG, TikTok and YouTube. He's the most searched man on Google at the moment. Guy is obviously a very polarizing figure. You either love him or you hate him.

The reason why I'm asking this question is because as you may know, it is very important to listen to people who are legit and aren't pretenders(and there's a lot of them nowadays who pretend to be 20 something year old multi millionaires, being high ticket coaches etc).

I've been following this guy for over 6 months and listen to his material vey often(fanboy lol yes) during work and he is spot on with many points about masculinity, wealth, the matrix, elitism, women and so on. Which is probably why he has such a big following because he's speaking the truth and a part society who's unplugged from the matrix knows he's right 95% of the time with what he says.

For those of you who don't know who he is => He's a 4x world kickboxing champion who's retired now, started a webcam business in his late twenties, made millions of dollars there and now he's involved in some casino businesses, but his bread and butter are his coaching programs like the Hustlers University and the War Room. HU alone probably generates him around $6.5m a month.

But a big RED flag for me is the incongruency in how he started his Webcam business aka before he was rich. That's how you can find if a guru is real or not, it should be the same story every time. In every single podcast he's on, he always tells a slightly different story. On the second F & F podcast, he said he invited 6 of his gfs to his apartment, 2 of them stayed and a month later he was making $110k a month with those 2 girls(this was before his 4th world title fight so he was probably 26 at the time), and 9 months later he owned a Lambo, Ferrari, penthouse etc. And on the very first F & F podcast he said it took him 2 years to make his first million dollars(after his 4th world title fight, he retired from kickboxing), and then 3 years after it turned into a $30m empire with 75 girls working for him in 4 different premises. Then on the CEOCAST podcast he said he called a couple of girls and asked one of them who worked at Starbucks joined his webcam business, and 6 months later he had about 10 girls and was making $300k-$400k a month. While on another F & F podcast with Celina Powell, his brother Tristan said that 3 years later after they started it they were cash millionaires.

There was one YouTuber commenter in particular who said that his whole webcam story is made up AND he made his first tens of millions of dollars by selling courses, especially Hustlers University which was his first big break, and that allowed him to get to Bugatti Chiron level kind of money. It's also a great marketing tool if you think about it, no other money making guru owns a Bugatti. It's easy to post pictures of Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Private jets and all of that shit but a Bugatti? That brings him 2 levels above all the other gurus.

Some people say he's kind of like the new Tai Lopez. I think the truth is probably somewhere in between. He probably made his first millions in the webcam business but realized he could make WAY more with HU and the War Room by being this "alpha male multi millionaire" type of character which is why he's appearing on all these podcasts + it would free up his time, because managing 75 girls is a hassle so selling courses would free up hundreds of hours from his time, they run on their own basically. All you need is a lot of traffic.

I think MJ also said it in one of his books if I'm not mistaken; "Never trust someone who flashes his material posessions everywhere on social media, that is all a marketing tool to get you to buy his shit". I mean if he didn't care about money at all, he wouldn't be promoting his courses everywhere he goes.

And even speaking from experience, the wealthiest individuals I know have no social media at all. There's a guy in my town who is the only norwegian to own a Bugatti Veyron and has like 20 supercars, he doesn't even have FB. And the guys who do, usually have private profiles and barely flash their stuff because it's not new to them.

This is not a hate comment on Tate at all, the guy is obviously very smart(his dad was the best black chess player of all time). What do you think? Would love to hear your opinions.

Meh. He's saying some truths with edgy marketing. Nothing really new and as long as people keep getting offended at dumb stuff there's always gonna be platforms for dudes like him.

That being said, I'm guessing he's making some type of bank from his exposure recently, so good on him

 

[K1 Lambo]

And now its reported he is banned from insta and fb.... see how this goes.. sure he will rebound but lack of control in that ecosystem is detrimental in todays bullshit politically correct society

It doesn't matter that much really. He has diversified his portfolio extremely well. His affiliates have made thousands of accounts, where they're promoting his content on YouTube, TikTok, IG and so on. But this is a very important part of the fastlane too, you got to control your operation as much as you can. Imagine if he just relied on his IG account to get his customers, and bam in one swoop he's gone.

 

[MitchC]

It doesn't matter that much really. He has diversified his portfolio extremely well. His affiliates have made thousands of accounts, where they're promoting his content on YouTube, TikTok, IG and so on. But this is a very important part of the fastlane too, you got to control your operation as much as you can. Imagine if he just relied on his IG account to get his customers, and bam in one swoop he's gone.

Based on my Instagram feed since this ban, all of these accounts seem to be gone too, no idea how they did it. He used to be every second thing I saw and I haven’t seen anything from him since.

 

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[Niptuck MD]

no idea how they did it.

They control everything lol
Thats insane though.
Big tech is definitely trying to program widespread now

 

[K1 Lambo]

They control everything lol
Thats insane though.
Big tech is definitely trying to program widespread now

They did that to him because he speaks a lot of facts and he had a tremendous reach on Instagram, way more than most of these red pill gurus who are all talk but no walk. Andrew is both. Andre is spot on about the western society in general and the matrix, and that kind of information goes against the elitists' agenda. He speaks a lot about the elites and how they're propagating this western and feminized world which is to literally destroy the world. You can see it happening in many big cities in America now, Canada is almost completely destroyed now.

Which is kind of ironic, because you can see a lot of girls talking shit about men on podcasts like F & F, describing 90% of modern men as bums and nobodies just because a guy works at KFC but when a guy sets a standard for wanting a certain type of female aka hot body, not a hoe and loyal etc. and all of a sudden he's a labeled a misogynist because he doesn't accept fat women.

While no one talks about misandry and prejudice against modern men that exists mostly because of social media nowadays. Which goes back to the previous point, that's a narrative that is pushed by the elites.

 

[Kevin88660]

They did that to him because he speaks a lot of facts and he had a tremendous reach on Instagram, way more than most of these red pill gurus who are all talk but no walk. Andrew is both. Andre is spot on about the western society in general and the matrix, and that kind of information goes against the elitists' agenda. He speaks a lot about the elites and how they're propagating this western and feminized world which is to literally destroy the world. You can see it happening in many big cities in America now, Canada is almost completely destroyed now.

Which is kind of ironic, because you can see a lot of girls talking shit about men on podcasts like F & F, describing 90% of modern men as bums and nobodies just because a guy works at KFC but when a guy sets a standard for wanting a certain type of female aka hot body, not a hoe and loyal etc. and all of a sudden he's a labeled a misogynist because he doesn't accept fat women.

While no one talks about misandry and prejudice against modern men that exists mostly because of social media nowadays. Which goes back to the previous point, that's a narrative that is pushed by the elites.

He is just taking advantage of the polarized politics. He speaks to people who want to hear what they want to hear.

If most women do think 90% of men are bums then marriage rate would fall to near zero.

There is no conspiracy. Women are powerful today because they earn almost as much as men and control more of the spending in household consumption. This gives them a lot of power in a consumer economy. Business and advertisers just follow where the money is.

The day when men grab back the power is the day when they stop telling salespeople that “I need to discuss with my wife”.

Speaking from a business/merchant/sales perspective, when I know that a man is not in charge but the lady is , guess whom i will suck up to?

You are only powerful when you are useful and relevant.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Based on my Instagram feed since this ban, all of these accounts seem to be gone too, no idea how they did it. He used to be every second thing I saw and I haven’t seen anything from him since.

When someone tries to grow fan base playing with misogyny and gender politics there is risk of course.

 

[MattR82]

 

[YeabsiraHaile101]

Exactly. That’s what I’m talking about thank you bro

Legit or not isn't the question - especially when it comes to the internet. Look for what you find to be valuable, and discard the rest; and understand that whatever bias you have on a person/topic have will govern that decision.

First always: Always be diligent about opening your wallet (and don't do it when you're high on emotion).

Second always: Don't be a fanboy. Everyone is just a person, and everyone has flaws. Never put anyone on a pedestal. You can listen to others, but always do your own thinking.

 

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