Grant Cardone is off his rocker...

[Andy Black]

Is TLDW a thing?

It is now!

I didn't watch. Sounds like it would be like watching a train-wreck. Not my thing.

 

[babyballer]

I really enjoyed GC in the past, however, after his Jordan Belfort interview I lost all my respect for him.
Jordan ripped him to Shreds... GC sole purpose on his show was to rip JB apart, but JB is quick on his feet and a master conversationalist, completely owned GC.

To make things even better... MEET KEVIN on Youtube, also ripped GC apart.... then went on the JB show and gave a run down between how GC tried to sue MeetKevin.. This is nuts.

You guys need to check this out..

Moral: GC is trash and a faker. He's also a butt hurt little bitch.. for someone that struts around like he's king shit... total trash. Do not waste your time with this guy.

People who love watching GC seem to have a lot of time on their hands. I never understand this.

 

[Solid Snake]

hey guys i got fish

lmaooooo

when i heard that i had to pause the video because i couldnt stop laughing.

 

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[PizzaOnTheRoof]

Grant apparently doesn’t care about reviews now.

“If I look up a hotel and it has a bunch of reviews, I probably don’t want to stay there...”

View: https://youtu.be/1XhH_zqVgEM

 

[PapaGang]

After listening to this, I was surprised. How does a guy like GC make so much money? How can people follow this dude? My old boss, who owns a small window company (15 mil) used to coach us, and he was the most friendly, dynamic, funny person, who showed a genuine warmth toward you. If he called on your house and you needed 2 windows, he'd walk out with an order for 8 windows and a sliding patio door. You'd also have a new friend.
He would bury Cardone in a cold sales call. I just don't get it I guess. GC lacks all of those qualities I saw in my old boss. Guess I was lucky to work for him instead of GC.

 

[Joda]

I really enjoyed GC in the past, however, after his Jordan Belfort interview I lost all my respect for him.
Jordan ripped him to Shreds... GC sole purpose on his show was to rip JB apart, but JB is quick on his feet and a master conversationalist, completely owned GC.

To make things even better... MEET KEVIN on Youtube, also ripped GC apart.... then went on the JB show and gave a run down between how GC tried to sue MeetKevin.. This is nuts.

You guys need to check this out..

Moral: GC is trash and a faker. He's also a butt hurt little bitch.. for someone that struts around like he's king shit... total trash. Do not waste your time with this guy.

You know I have to disagree with this assessment.. In this interview Grant was trying to look better than Belfort and it was an odd interview because he made it a competition rather than a friendly conversation.

He was trying to make some points which were not inline with the questions he was being asked because he didn't think they were good questions.

He came off as a bit of a dick but I think he is mostly right and still has a lot of wisdom.

Belfort scammed millions of American families out of their houses and futures with his penny stock scam which shows a total lack of morality.

Grant might be full of it from time to time but I think his message comes from his personal learnt experiences and a genuine place of wisdom/wanting to help people succeed.

He thinks differently to the average person - maybe that's what got him to where he is going.

 

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[GigMistress]

After listening to this, I was surprised. How does a guy like GC make so much money? How can people follow this dude?

I'm probably going to get some backlash for this, but I think that his overly simplistic ego driven bluster is exactly why a certain type of person gravitates toward him. There's clearly nothing special about him--what he conveys is simplistic and he doesn't come across as very smart and he's clearly unlikeable, and yet he filthy rich. It sends the message that you don't have to know much, be a decent person, or really have any particular talents or positive qualities to be wildly successful...you can just get with this super-simplistic philosophy and BOOM--you'll sail past the crowd just like he did.

 

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[sparechange]

some bum on youtube commenting on someone else's financials for his own gain, lol!

 

[Ismail941]

JB: I love Sales Training
GC: I don't like Sales

JB: Did you like your old Job?
GC: I had to like my Job - I had to Fish the Fishing

JB: I think there are 2 types of Buyers: Buyers or Non-Buyers
GC: All People are Buyers.

GC: It's about Hits & Volume. There is no TRICK

 

[daivey]

"not interested is a level of interest"
- GC

 

[GoodluckChuck]

obviously going on any interview is to get exposure of your brand...not sure why you're posting this 'truism' as something that you came up with as it's very evident this is the case.

with regards to your 2 points:
1) JB never said there is a secret to sales, and he never once claimed that. Right off the bat, GC attacks JB about being a trickster... JB handled the attcks very well.

2) JB tries to talk about Cardone's strategy; Cardone doesn't talk about his strategy, instead wags his dick...

Meetkevin did a great analysis of the interview. He sums it up quite well and I don't want to re-invent the wheel when its been done for me.:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgal8Tnk1Y8

Going on someone's podcast for brand exposure might be obvious to you, but it isn't obvious to everyone. Some podcasts actually are about having a real conversation. This wasn't one of them, at least for Cardone. Maybe Belfort's intentions were different. It would seem they were. Personally I would have appreciated a real conversation but that's not what we got.

I've made no claim that I came up with the idea of going on a podcast for brand exposure. I pointed it out to give context to my other ideas.

I think we can glean more insights from this podcast by focusing on what people do rather than what they say. JB might not have said there's a secret to sales, but the entire premise of his sales training is that he knows something his audience doesn't and he will teach them what it is for $. Some might call that a secret. Russel Brunson certainly would.

By disqualifying the notion that there is a "secret", Cardone is throwing a stick in the gears of JB's entire premise. Cardone then goes on to talk about the millions he made "marketing", without calling it that. This is kind of like saying, "Your premise is bullshit. Mine makes me tons of money. I'll teach your audience how to do it at Cardone University."

I'm willing to bet a large percentage of JB's audience wants to make money more than they want to be masters of sales, so I could see this being a decent move.


As for talking about strategy, what does Cardone have to gain from talking about strategy? He's obviously not there for that. He's there to send a message to JB's audience. "This guy will teach you sales. I'll teach you how to get rich."

Was this his intent? Who knows. I'm just speculating; posing a perspective contrary to yours. Maybe I'm reading too deep into it, but I enjoy thinking about this stuff.

For the record, I like both of these guys for different reasons and am not on either's side. I would rather try and look at the situation objectively and learn what I can, then move on. If we're not learning anything, then what's the point?

 

[MoneyDoc]

I really enjoyed GC in the past, however, after his Jordan Belfort interview I lost all my respect for him.
Jordan ripped him to Shreds... GC sole purpose on his show was to rip JB apart, but JB is quick on his feet and a master conversationalist, completely owned GC.

To make things even better... MEET KEVIN on Youtube, also ripped GC apart.... then went on the JB show and gave a run down between how GC tried to sue MeetKevin.. This is nuts.

You guys need to check this out..

Moral: GC is trash and a faker. He's also a butt hurt little bitch.. for someone that struts around like he's king shit... total trash. Do not waste your time with this guy.

You're saying that to someone with a net worth of $300 million?

I always find it hilarious when people talk shit about a wealthy individual. As they say, the poor discuss people, the rich discuss ideas.

Completely unsure why this thread exists. Who gives a shit?

 

[shubham525]

Damn , I trusted London Real interview.

 

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[MoreVolume]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUA-4dtBGH0

 

[GigMistress]

I really enjoyed GC in the past, however, after his Jordan Belfort interview I lost all my respect for him.
Jordan ripped him to Shreds... GC sole purpose on his show was to rip JB apart, but JB is quick on his feet and a master conversationalist, completely owned GC.

To make things even better... MEET KEVIN on Youtube, also ripped GC apart.... then went on the JB show and gave a run down between how GC tried to sue MeetKevin.. This is nuts.

You guys need to check this out..

Moral: GC is trash and a faker. He's also a butt hurt little bitch.. for someone that struts around like he's king shit... total trash. Do not waste your time with this guy.

I didn't hear that interview, but this doesn't surprise me. 10x was one of the worst business books I've ever read (understanding that "worst" is a subjective term). It read like he was search engine optimizing for a few of his favorite buzz words, and the underlying theme of being super-proud of his narcissism got in the way of anything of value he might have had to offer for me.

I stuck it out, but ended up feeling like anything substantive he had to say could have been conveyed in a blog post and he tried to make up for that with repetition of some very basic concepts.

 

[daivey]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUA-4dtBGH0

lol wtf he's even talking about.. what a terrible video.

GC is an idiot and hyperinflated ego is growing.

 

[MoreVolume]

lol wtf he's even talking about.. what a terrible video.

GC is an idiot and hyperinflated ego is growing.

He simply stated facts
Cardone's net worth is in the hundred of millions
Belfort's net worth is in the negative
Belfort was thinking about selling pens
Cardone talked about replacing the pen
Cardone has 100+ employees
Belfort has 6 interns working in an apartment
Cardone made his money legally
Belfort is only known b/c of his criminality and disloyalty
Cardone > Belfort

 

[Bryan James]

Oh my God, this is like watching Jerry Springer (or Maury, I should say) . WHO CARES. Get to work.

 

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[PizzaOnTheRoof]

Oh my God, this is like watching Jerry Springer (or Maury, I should say) . WHO CARES. Get to work.

Then what's the point of the [OFF-TOPIC] forum?

Maybe we should stop talking about The Mandalorian and Cybertruck and just get to work.

 

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[daivey]

Someone who takes a lot of interest in these videos (and feuds) probably doesn't have a growing business to think about. It's like water-cooler gossip for employees. When the phones are ringing and the orders are piling up, there simply isn't time to take part in guru soap-operas.

I haven't watched one video.

Not one.

Don't care. Never will.

ok
well, lets add to that:
-playing video games
-watching TV shows
-playing sports (subjective, cause there are health benefits...)
-watching sports
-insert other non-business growing item

I get what you're saying, but this is off-topic for a reason. Not like we're sinking that much time into it.

GC has some decent content
JB has some decent content

To put this into perspect MJ, this would be like you going onto a pod-cast to discuss your book, someone asks you a basic question about something you CHAMPION on here, and then you completely flop.
It does matter in it's "niche".... True it wont impact my day-to-day... but it matters to your following, your forums, etc.

Anyway, not trying to attack, just trying to point out that I disagree with the angle some of you on here are taking with this thread.

 

[daivey]

People see my last name and assume I'm a GC fan... I'm not.

I don't like to talk shit about people behind their back but I will say, Grant's sells stuff kinda sucks compared to other stuff out there.

JBs stuff is good IF you have enough EQ to use it without turning into an overly pushy salesmen. I always tell guys new to sales to start with JBs stuff and then start building on top of it with lots of practice and material from guys like Jeb Blount and Mike Wineburg.

GC has some good stuff for sure... I'm just shocked by his character after seeing him in full action on the JB interview.

Crazy.

 

[daivey]

JB: I love Sales Training
GC: I don't like Sales

JB: Did you like your old Job?
GC: I had to like my Job - I had to Fish the Fishing

JB: I think there are 2 types of Buyers: Buyers or Non-Buers
GC: All People are Buyers.

GC: It's about Hits & Volume. There is no TRICK

then GC goes on to talk about
"the trick is getting the guy to buy the $100 program for $50,000"

lol

 

[Schonox]

Oh and just compare a book like 10X with the Wolf of Wallstreet. May toss the latter.

 

[TheCj]

Because GC never gave anything of real substance. Not to mention the ad hominem attacks to JB about his past and cage fighting him?!?!?

JB asked point-blank: "What exactly do you do when somebody says they're not interested."

GC: "No interest is interest. Give them something else to buy."

JB: "How did you manage to sell all those fish? What did you say?"

GC: "Hey man wanna buy some fish? I got some."

JB: "What's your strategy? What's something that listeners of this podcast can sink their teeth into?"

GC: "Just have a full pipeline. That is the strategy."

It all makes sense coming from a master marketer, NOT a master salesman. GC can sell of course, but the bulk of his wealth has come from personal branding/marketing.

Meanwhile, JB will actually take you to the whiteboard and show you step by step a method that works. Not saying he's god or anything.

I think Grant Cardone's point is, there is no secret it's just doing it. JB was trying to coax some special script or something. At the end of the day if you want it you will keep at it. JB was trying to talk about salespeople talking too long too avoid making other calls. How does this help anyone? People who are motivated aren't going to have that problem. Workplaces that allow that aren't building the right culture. For me watching I was uninterested in him bringing it up over n over, so can imagine Grant was probably thinking, well he even said that's not his world/reality.

If someone isn't interested they will just hang up. The first time some one says not interested they now know you. The second time they will remember the first time and they still might not be interested yet they might know someone who is or talk about you to someone else. When you randomly cold call this other person they might be interested. The point is someone has to know you first. So any reaction is ok.

The full pipeline and following up works, if you are busy contacting 100's of people a day you will get interested people. If you can followup even better.

If all a person got from Grant Cardone is to do way more to fill up the amount of people you can contact, that person will see a big improvement.

That's what I got out of it.

 

[Vegvisir]

I listened to the video driving today and agree that Grant Cardone did not come off well in my opinion. It seemed throughout most of the interview that Jordan was trying to analyze different business topics to gain some insight from Grant but he really had nothing insightful to add. The whole "try to sell a variety of products to people, never only had one product" idea came off as someone who is chasing money and not trying to add value to people in anyway.

I also found it interesting that grant believed his core business was real estate. It seems like he's one of the classic "Guru" types who makes there money selling courses, books, talks, etc to other people and then take the money they get from that to invest in real estate which seems like a pretty shady business strategy in terms of getting wealthy vs creating a real product/business that adds real value to the marketplace.

 

[Dan_Cardone]

#landfill

 

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[MattR82]

Reminds me of WWE where the wrestlers are always angry with each other on TV and group themselves, and fought in the Royal Rumble to boost sales and make $$$ from screaming male fans.

Na I think they genuinely dislike each other...

Cage match me, yo!!!
Ahhh my shoulder.... lol

 

[SaintQuinn]

I really enjoyed GC in the past, however, after his Jordan Belfort interview I lost all my respect for him.
Jordan ripped him to Shreds... GC sole purpose on his show was to rip JB apart, but JB is quick on his feet and a master conversationalist, completely owned GC.

To make things even better... MEET KEVIN on Youtube, also ripped GC apart.... then went on the JB show and gave a run down between how GC tried to sue MeetKevin.. This is nuts.

You guys need to check this out..

Moral: GC is trash and a faker. He's also a butt hurt little bitch.. for someone that struts around like he's king shit... total trash. Do not waste your time with this guy.

I stopped looking at GC's crap about 2 years ago and recently started again....As soon as I saw his disgusting idiotic behavior in that Belfort interview video I thought the same exact thing as you did...GC's BS act appeals to guys in their early 20s...He has NOTHING....

 

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[SaintQuinn]

Na I think they genuinely dislike each other...

Cage match me, yo!!!
Ahhh my shoulder.... lol

I THOUGHT BELFORT ATTEMPTED TO BE VERY CORDIAL WITH HIM....

 

[KAA]

I really enjoyed GC in the past, however, after his Jordan Belfort interview I lost all my respect for him.
Jordan ripped him to Shreds... GC sole purpose on his show was to rip JB apart, but JB is quick on his feet and a master conversationalist, completely owned GC.

To make things even better... MEET KEVIN on Youtube, also ripped GC apart.... then went on the JB show and gave a run down between how GC tried to sue MeetKevin.. This is nuts.

You guys need to check this out..

Moral: GC is trash and a faker. He's also a butt hurt little bitch.. for someone that struts around like he's king shit... total trash. Do not waste your time with this guy.

I am a GC fan but was very disappointed in this I interview. I am a customer of both their programs. I disagree with GC that everyone is a customer. When I receive phone calls myself I am very upfront with the reps if I am never going to buy a product because it's not a good fit, etc. Some prospects are a waste of time, and I'm grateful when I know they can be eliminated so I don't waste time or money following up with th them. JB is all about identifying the people who really are good prospects and then figuring out how to speed up their decision making process. I think his approach makes more sense.