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Great progress so far, @Fox! I love all the insight on how you approach clients and the overall workflow required in order to deliver those value-packed websites!

Over the years I've been thinking of starting freelancing myself and I think it's finally time to pull the trigger. However, I've got a few questions regarding the legal aspect of this and I hope that someone could point me to the right direction.

1. How do you handle the domain name & hosting with your clients? Do you use some sort of affiliate program for this?

2. What about the contracts? Do you take care of those or is the client responsible for this as the one "hiring" you? Any examples?
Hey welcome to the forums.

1) I get them to set it up and send me the login details/grant me access (possible with some hosting providers). I personally don't try to make money from hosting but others do and it can work well.

2) I have never used a formal contract for any project. I send a project overview email and just use that. I do heavily screen my clients though and work hard to keep a project on track and communication solid.

My mindset has always been that a bad client wouldn't care about a contract anyway. So I work on a 50/50 risk system (with the payments) and just keep everything moving forward. Works 99% of the time.
 

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Hey welcome to the forums.

1) I get them to set it up and send me the login details/grant me access (possible with some hosting providers). I personally don't try to make money from hosting but others do and it can work well.

2) I have never used a formal contract for any project. I send a project overview email and just use that. I do heavily screen my clients though and work hard to keep a project on track and communication solid.

My mindset has always been that a bad client wouldn't care about a contract anyway. So I work on a 50/50 risk system (with the payments) and just keep everything moving forward. Works 99% of the time.
Thanks for the quick response! I would love to use that approach, but I fear that could lead to some legal troubles regarding taxes and some companies might want to get a bill in order to justify their expenses, leading to more paperwork and/or a contract. What's your insight on this?

As for the project overview email, that sounds really interesting. Could you expand on that please? Maybe a real-world example?
 

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I have been following through and applying some of this to my lateste website work. I actually think I might be better looking for high-volume, low value websites, perhaps with some mid-volume mid value.

I have been working with one author on design and I was hoping to get input from more(niche), they require a blogand then it occured to me my book page could perhaps be used as a template for a one product page. I have seen on keyword.io that one page product website is a good long tail keyword.

I have been unable to narrow down the niche any further as of yet.
 

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I can totally relate to your frustration: I recorded a few videos for a sales funnel 10 years ago
Very time-consuming and the result is not pro when the bad parts are just cut out of the sequence, so it has to be good, end-to-end.

It is so much easier to just record the voice on top of the screen action (e.g. with Camtasia).
That way the audio can be cut & pasted where needed and
You don't need many takes to get one good end to end sequence.

If I had to do it again, that's how I'd do 80% of the takes

So maybe it's worth wondering how much you actually need to be seen full screen on every video to achieve your goal?

Maybe the intro and conclusion of the video is enough, the rest just with audio on top of the screen recording?

Another option to consider is the way this guy does his courses on Udemy:
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his face just appears in a bottom corner!
Pretty neat.

It still feels very personal, but we will not notice the interruption/change of position when a bad video sequence was cut out because we focus on the rest of the screen most of the time, not on his face;
Hey sorry if this was asked before, I'm just on page 2 and I sorta gotta get back to work (lol) but how do you do this outside of something like Streamlabs or OBS? It's like Twitch like but do you think this person is using anything other than streamlabs for this?

I am new to video editing and dipping my feet with YouTube and Twitch is the only place I've seen that way of camera placement
 

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- Cuts out a lot of the nonsense within the web design teaching/guru space
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Taking this challenge does link to what I do with Fox Web School as I am hoping to make more real content that stands apart from what @MJ DeMarco calls "bro marketing".

I'm just completely failing at this. I'm unable to even get in front of people with that kind of budget.
 
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I'm just completely failing at this. I'm unable to even get in front of people with that kind of budget.
How good are your past results from the businesses you have helped?

Without these bigger businesses won't pay too much attention.
 

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How good are your past results from the businesses you have helped?

Without these bigger businesses won't pay too much attention.
Thanks for the reply,By people with a budget, I mean anything from £5 to £50 for a site. I'm unable to get in front of even small companies or sole traders.
 

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Hey man, love this thread and these videos, keep up the amazing work. I'm a little confused by the youtube channel, are the videos sequential? Trying to resume where this thread left off.

Anyways, on to the true question, and my apologies if you've answered before - do you run into hiccups when these business want to make changes to these sites? Ie, change copy, swap an image out, whatever. Do you do include this kind of maintenance in the price, charge any sort of recurring fees for this? I imagine they don't want to / know how to edit the HTML manually.

Thanks again for the dope thread and info.
 
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Hey man, love this thread and these videos, keep up the amazing work. I'm a little confused by the youtube channel, are the videos sequential? Trying to resume where this thread left off.

Anyways, on to the true question, and my apologies if you've answered before - do you run into hiccups when these business want to make changes to these sites? Ie, change copy, swap an image out, whatever. Do you do include this kind of maintenance in the price, charge any sort of recurring fees for this? I imagine they don't want to / know how to edit the HTML manually.

Thanks again for the dope thread and info.
I was getting that question a bit so I made this video to wrap up all the best content in the best order.


I allow some free reasonable changes once we launch for a limited amount of time.

After that it depends on how large the changes are but if large then usually just a set amount.

If it's very large like extra pages etc then I price that separately like a mini-project.
 

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Awesome, thanks man. I've been hemorrhaging your posts / content and @GuitarManDan's thread for the past 24 hours and am very impressed. I keep seeing references to your Facebook group but am unable to find it - can you point me in the right direction there? Also curious about the school, I've subscribed to your email list and have seen the blog / youtube, but is there an additional part I'm missing? Apologies if it's in plain sight, promise I did a little digging.

I'm currently a front end developer, and you guys have inspired me to give this a go. Used to be a Premier Pro specialist, so have been really enjoying your video stuff as well. Loving those drone shots.

Thanks for the awesome content.
 

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How do you typically go about handling contact forms? I like the thought of skipping Wordpress, but the lack of an effective free way to handle forms makes me want to potentially reconsider.

Other options I've considered are Formspree which seems solid, but would necessitate a monthly fee and ongoing relationship with the client, or spitting up your own backend with Mailchimp or Sendgrid, which might cost money if the volume surpasses their free tiers.

Actually now that I think of it, all these options seem like they would require ongoing support to the customer, as opposed to being a one-off type deal.
 

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I keep seeing references to your Facebook group but am unable to find it - can you point me in the right direction there? Also curious about the school, I've subscribed to your email list and have seen the blog / youtube, but is there an additional part I'm missing? Apologies if it's in plain sight, promise I did a little digging.
I think he has taken them all down and stopped doing it. Think @Fox is pivoting his web design business into another direction.
 

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I have been following through and applying some of this to my lateste website work. I actually think I might be better looking for high-volume, low value websites, perhaps with some mid-volume mid value.

I have been working with one author on design and I was hoping to get input from more(niche), they require a blogand then it occured to me my book page could perhaps be used as a template for a one product page. I have seen on keyword.io that one page product website is a good long tail keyword.

I have been unable to narrow down the niche any further as of yet.
Some solid info, thanks for sharing :)
 

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