Expanding Outside Upwork -- Creating My Own Website, Email- and Direct Mail Campaigns + much more!

[TomW]

I’ve been on Upwork for the last 9 months and just now got my first real, repeating client. It’s a big European online tire shop that needs product descriptions pretty frequently.

Despite the fact that I have a repeating client I’m still on my way to the first 1k from Upwork. I know I should’ve made that 1k A LONG TIME AGO but learning copywriting and how to get clients has taken a lot of my time. I’m also guilty of procrastinating to be honest.

Since there are plenty of prospective clients outside Upwork I thought why the hell haven’t I reached out to them yet? Why have all the eggs in one basket?

So, here’s what I’m going to do:

1. Create my own website so everybody can find me.
2. Figure out what kind of services I’m going to provide. (Copywriting, consulting, etc…)
3. Start a blog on that website to educate my clients and drive traffic. (I’m figuring out ideas for content, I have to find a way to teach my clients about copywriting, I’m open to suggestions.)
4. Find lists of fresh startups and send them personalized emails about how I could help them stand-out and get clients with my copywriting.
5. Send direct mailers to local businesses. (Or should I look up their website and walk in to the store and tell them how I could make their copy better?)
6. Create Autoresponder series to have people sign up for my newsletter and to sell my services to them. (I could send an email every time I post on the blog and when I have some valuable information for my newsletter receivers. I think I should create at least 15 emails before hand. Again, open to suggestions.)
7. Figure out pricing.
8. Create my own E-book(s) for clients to educate them. (Topics are still unknown)
9. Maybe set up social media accounts? (Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram)

So, this is what I’m currently working on, I’m not sure if I’m going to do everything in that order but these are the things I’m going to do. If I missed something relevant or there’s something wrong with that list, please let me know, I don’t want to do this half-assed.

This is my first time really trying to grow my business so any advice is welcomed, no need to be kind, no need to handle with care, if there’s anything wrong with these ideas, let me know!

Crossing all of these will take a little bit of time since my current financial situation doesn’t allow me to spend on these immediately. I’m going to have my next salary on Friday (yes, I’m currently working a slowlane job) so after Friday I can calculate how much money I can spend.

Currently I have money coming in from two sources; Upwork (about 250€ a month) and my part-time slowlane job which is stevedoring (about 450-1500€ a month). If you have any ideas on how I could hustle things up more, I’m all ears.

Few questions for you:

1. How much money should I spend on a website?
2. What should the website contain other than blog, basic information, picture, contact form, portfolio (I only have pieces that I created when I was applying for jobs on Upwork)?
3. What do you think is the best web host? GoDaddy?
4. Should I use Upwork, Fiverr or Craigslist to find the person who’d make me a website?

I’d like to feel accountable for this forum, so if you guys are interested I’d be happy to feed you information about my journey and how everything is evolving.

I'm glad I read TMF and grateful for the people on this forum who put time and effort to give advice for others that are just starting out and going through hurdles.

-Tuomas

 

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[Lex DeVille]

O’wi ciip up Aqxusl gus vji metv 9 nupvjt epf katv pux huv nz gostv siem, siqievoph dmoipv. Ov’t e coh Iasuqiep upmopi vosi tjuq vjev piift qsufadv fitdsoqvoupt qsivvz gsiraipvmz.

Fitqovi vji gedv vjev O jewi e siqievoph dmoipv O’n tvomm up nz xez vu vji gostv 1l gsun Aqxusl. O lpux O tjuamf’wi nefi vjev 1l E MUPH VONI EHU cav miespoph duqzxsovoph epf jux vu hiv dmoipvt jet velip e muv ug nz voni. O’n emtu haomvz ug qsudsetvopevoph vu ci jupitv.

Topdi vjisi esi qmipvz ug qsutqidvowi dmoipvt uavtofi Aqxusl O vjuahjv xjz vji jimm jewip’v O siedjif uav vu vjin ziv? Xjz jewi emm vji ihht op upi cetliv?

Tu, jisi’t xjev O’n huoph vu fu:

1. Dsievi nz uxp xictovi tu iwiszcufz dep gopf ni.
2. Gohasi uav xjev lopf ug tiswodit O’n huoph vu qsuwofi. (Duqzxsovoph, duptamvoph, ivd…)
3. Tvesv e cmuh up vjev xictovi vu ifadevi nz dmoipvt epf fsowi vseggod. (O’n gohasoph uav ofiet gus dupvipv, O jewi vu gopf e xez vu viedj nz dmoipvt ecuav duqzxsovoph, O’n uqip vu tahhitvoupt.)
4. Gopf motvt ug gsitj tvesvaqt epf tipf vjin qistupemobif ineomt ecuav jux O duamf jimq vjin tvepf-uav epf hiv dmoipvt xovj nz duqzxsovoph.
5. Tipf fosidv neomist vu mudem catopittit. (Us tjuamf O muul aq vjios xictovi epf xeml op vu vji tvusi epf vimm vjin jux O duamf neli vjios duqz civvis?)
6. Dsievi Eavusitqupfis tisoit vu jewi qiuqmi tohp aq gus nz pixtmivvis epf vu timm nz tiswodit vu vjin. (O duamf tipf ep ineom iwisz voni O qutv up vji cmuh epf xjip O jewi tuni wemaecmi opgusnevoup gus nz pixtmivvis sidiowist. O vjopl O tjuamf dsievi ev mietv 15 ineomt cigusi jepf. Eheop, uqip vu tahhitvoupt.)
7. Gohasi uav qsodoph.
8. Dsievi nz uxp I-cuul(t) gus dmoipvt vu ifadevi vjin. (Vuqodt esi tvomm aplpuxp)
9. Nezci tiv aq tudoem nifoe edduapvt? (Gedicuul, MoplifOp, Vxovvis, Optvehsen)

Tu, vjot ot xjev O’n dassipvmz xusloph up, O’n puv tasi og O’n huoph vu fu iwiszvjoph op vjev usfis cav vjiti esi vji vjopht O’n huoph vu fu. Og O nottif tunivjoph simiwepv us vjisi’t tunivjoph xsuph xovj vjev motv, qmieti miv ni lpux, O fup’v xepv vu fu vjot jemg-ettif.

Vjot ot nz gostv voni siemmz vszoph vu hsux nz catopitt tu epz efwodi ot ximdunif, pu piif vu ci lopf, pu piif vu jepfmi xovj desi, og vjisi’t epzvjoph xsuph xovj vjiti ofiet, miv ni lpux!

Dsuttoph emm ug vjiti xomm veli e movvmi cov ug voni topdi nz dassipv gopepdoem tovaevoup fuitp’v emmux ni vu tqipf up vjiti onnifoevimz. O’n huoph vu jewi nz piyv temesz up Gsofez (zit, O’n dassipvmz xusloph e tmuxmepi kuc) tu egvis Gsofez O dep demdamevi jux nadj nupiz O dep tqipf.

Dassipvmz O jewi nupiz dunoph op gsun vxu tuasdit; Aqxusl (ecuav 250€ e nupvj) epf nz qesv-voni tmuxmepi kuc xjodj ot tviwifusoph (ecuav 450-1500€ e nupvj). Og zua jewi epz ofiet up jux O duamf jatvmi vjopht aq nusi, O’n emm iest.

Gix raitvoupt gus zua:

1. Jux nadj nupiz tjuamf O tqipf up e xictovi?
2. Xjev tjuamf vji xictovi dupveop uvjis vjep cmuh, cetod opgusnevoup, qodvasi, dupvedv gusn, qusvgumou (O upmz jewi qoidit vjev O dsievif xjip O xet eqqmzoph gus kuct up Aqxusl)?
3. Xjev fu zua vjopl ot vji citv xic jutv? HuFeffz?
4. Tjuamf O ati Aqxusl, Gowiss us Dseohtmotv vu gopf vji qistup xju’f neli ni e xictovi?

O’f moli vu giim edduapvecmi gus vjot gusan, tu og zua hazt esi opvisitvif O’f ci jeqqz vu giif zua opgusnevoup ecuav nz kuaspiz epf jux iwiszvjoph ot iwumwoph.

O'n hmef O sief VNG epf hsevigam gus vji qiuqmi up vjot gusan xju qav voni epf iggusv vu howi efwodi gus uvjist vjev esi katv tvesvoph uav epf huoph vjsuahj jasfmit.

-Vaunet

1. Gohasi uav xju zua dep tiswi citv xovj zuas duqz.
2. Gohasi uav jux nadj zua xomm djeshi.
3. Gopf dmoipvt epf hiv temit.

Tloq emm vjev uvjis tjov apvom zua hiv e dmoipv uavtofi ug Aqxusl cideati apvom zua fu, ov't e xetvi ug voni.

 

[Nicoknowsbest]

"Zua fup'v piif e xictovi, zua piif temit." - @Epfz Cmedl

 

[Andy Black]

xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/tqipf-zuas-nupiz-up-foitim-epf-duggii.70072

Xjev't xuslif gus ni ot vu gopf e dmoipv gsun vji qiuqmi O emsiefz lpux, fu e huuf kuc, neli ov e deti tvafz/tvusz O dep vimm qiuqmi, epf jewi fimohjvif dmoipvt sigis ni vu uvjis qiuqmi.

Nezci djidl uav vji gostv sefou opviswoix moplif vu op nz tohpevasi (epf vji demmt xovj @TopotvisMiy epf @Podulpuxtcitv op qesvodames).

QT: O'wi ciip timg inqmuzif topdi 2000 epf upmz huv e catopitt desf e duaqmi ug xiilt ehu, epf nz xictovi upmz sidipvmz jef nusi vjep vji catopitt peni up ov (ov pux jet e dupvedv at gusn up ov).

QQT: Qutvoph op gusant jet jimqif ni vuu. Motvip vu vji demm xovj @VifN.

 

[TomW]

1. Gohasi uav xju zua dep tiswi citv xovj zuas duqz.
2. Gohasi uav jux nadj zua xomm djeshi.
3. Gopf dmoipvt epf hiv temit.

Tloq emm vjev uvjis tjov apvom zua hiv e dmoipv uavtofi ug Aqxusl cideati apvom zua fu, ov't e xetvi ug voni.

@TopotvisMiy Zua esi sohjv. O vjopl O'n haomvz ug edvoup geloph, O xetp'v gudatoph up xjev't simiwepv.

1. O vjopl nz dassipv tlomm miwim ot citv gus ipvsiqsipiast epf catopittit vjev esi xsovoph emm ug vjios eft epf upmopi duqz vjintimwit xovjuav lpuxoph jux vu fu ov qsuqismz, emtu O duamf jimq upmopi epf uggmopi catopittit xovj vjios qsufadv fitdsoqvoupt epf vjios xictovi duqz.

2. O duamf djeshi 25€/j us 50i qis ef us 100€ qis mepfoph qehi. Vjot ot tunivjoph O'n tvomm gohasoph uav epf jewoph qsucmint xovj.

3. O vjopl O'mm hu vu vji mocsesz vufez, dsec e muv ug mudem pixtqeqist, gopf eft up vjin vjev O duamf onqsuwi, neli e motv ug vjuti onqsuwinipvt epf vjip demm vu vji qistup us catopitt vjev qmedif vji ef epf tahhitv nz ofiet up jux vji ef duamf qisgusn civvis epf vjip etl vjin og vjiz xepv ni vu si-xsovi ov.

O etlif nz nuvjis vufez og O duamf sixsovi jis mogi duedjoph xictovi't duqz epf tji ehsiif vu vjev, tu vjev't huoph vu ci nz gostv qoidi vu nz qusvgumou uavtofi Aqxusl. O xomm emtu ci ecmi vu neli e deti tvafz ecuav ov.

"Zua fup'v piif e xictovi, zua piif temit." - @Epfz Cmedl

@Podulpuxtcitv Vsai, O motvipif vu Epfz't sefou opviswoix epf siemobif vjev O xetp'v vjoploph dussidvmz xjip O vjuahjv O'f piif vu qav aq e xictovi vu hiv nz catopitt summoph.

xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/tqipf-zuas-nupiz-up-foitim-epf-duggii.70072

Xjev't xuslif gus ni ot vu gopf e dmoipv gsun vji qiuqmi O emsiefz lpux, fu e huuf kuc, neli ov e deti tvafz/tvusz O dep vimm qiuqmi, epf jewi fimohjvif dmoipvt sigis ni vu uvjis qiuqmi.

Nezci djidl uav vji gostv sefou opviswoix moplif vu op nz tohpevasi (epf vji demmt xovj @TopotvisMiy epf @Podulpuxtcitv op qesvodames).

QT: O'wi ciip timg inqmuzif topdi 2000 epf upmz huv e catopitt desf e duaqmi ug xiilt ehu, epf nz xictovi upmz sidipvmz jef nusi vjep vji catopitt peni up ov (ov pux jet e dupvedv at gusn up ov).

QQT: Qutvoph op gusant jet jimqif ni vuu. Motvip vu vji demm xovj @VifN.

Zua esi sohjv @Epfz Cmedl nz nuvjis jet e mogi duedjoph xictovi vjev piift onqsuwinipv, gostv vjoph O'n huoph vu fu ot sixsovi jis xictovi.

O motvipif vji gostv sefou opviswoix zitvisfez epf ov jef hsiev efwodi, O siemobif O xet ep edvoup gelis xjip O vjuahjv vjev O'f piif vu qav aq e xictovi epf emm vjev uvjis tvagg vu hiv catopitt summoph.

O'n huoph vu motvip vji opviswoixt epf demmt.

-Vaunet

 

[Andy Black]

nz nuvjis jet e mogi duedjoph xictovi vjev piift onqsuwinipv, gostv vjoph O'n huoph vu fu ot sixsovi jis xictovi.

Cuun. Sohjv apfis zuas puti! (Xevdj vji tidupf wofiu op vjot qutv.)

“Piwis xussz ecuav pancist.
Jimq upi qistup ev e voni, epf emxezt tvesv xovj vji qistup piesitv zua.”
(Nuvjis Vjisite)​

O'n huoph vu motvip vji opviswoixt epf demmt.

Tu muph et ov't op zuas fuxp voni gsun xusloph up zuas nuvjis't tovi gostv.

(Qsufadoph > Duptanoph)

 

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[Snoophek]

2. O duamf djeshi 25€/j us 50i qis ef us 100€ qis mepfoph qehi. Vjot ot tunivjoph O'n tvomm gohasoph uav epf jewoph qsucmint xovj.

Tvuq vjoploph op visnt ug $/j

Vjopl ecuav jux nadj wemai fu zua hipisevi epf djeshi gus vjev.

 

[TomW]

Cuun. Sohjv apfis zuas puti! (Xevdj vji tidupf wofiu op vjot qutv.)

“Piwis xussz ecuav pancist.
Jimq upi qistup ev e voni, epf emxezt tvesv xovj vji qistup piesitv zua.”
(Nuvjis Vjisite)​

Tu muph et ov't op zuas fuxp voni gsun xusloph up zuas nuvjis't tovi gostv.

(Qsufadoph > Duptanoph)

Zit! Gsun pux up O xomm tvesv vu muul gsun qiuqmi esuapf ni gostv.

Zua esi sohjv, vji xictovi ot vji vuq qsousovz pux, egvis vjev dunit vji deti tvafz epf vji uvjis vjopht.

 

[TomW]

Tvuq vjoploph op visnt ug $/j

Vjopl ecuav jux nadj wemai fu zua hipisevi epf djeshi gus vjev.

Vji qsucmin ot vjev O fup'v ziv lpux xjev vji "wemai" op vjot deti ot. Ot ov vji enuapv ug demmt vji datvunis xomm hiv egvis O sixsovi ep ef? Ot ov vji enuapv ug dmodlt vjios ceppis hiv't, us ot ov vji enuapv ug nupiz vjiz xomm sidiowi egvis O'wi xsovvip e temit mivvis?

Miv ni etl zua vjot: Og zua xisi op e tonomes tovaevoup, xjev xuamf zua fu?

 

[Nicoknowsbest]

Og zua xisi op e tonomes tovaevoup, xjev xuamf zua fu?

Fup'v xussz.

(Uwis-)vjopl mitt.

Fu nusi.

Jimq tunicufz xovj xjev zua dep fu vufez.

Xevdj xjev jeqqipt updi zua ciduni edvowi. Updi zua caomf nunipvan.

Og zua tvesv fuoph, nepz qoidit xomm tvesv gemmoph opvu qmedi.

 

[Andy Black]

Vji qsucmin ot vjev O fup'v ziv lpux xjev vji "wemai" op vjot deti ot. Ot ov vji enuapv ug demmt vji datvunis xomm hiv egvis O sixsovi ep ef? Ot ov vji enuapv ug dmodlt vjios ceppis hiv't, us ot ov vji enuapv ug nupiz vjiz xomm sidiowi egvis O'wi xsovvip e temit mivvis?

Miv ni etl zua vjot: Og zua xisi op e tonomes tovaevoup, xjev xuamf zua fu?

Xjev xuamf O fu? Teni et xjev @Podulpuxtcitv tahhitvt.

Epf vu djeshi e gmev-sevi sevjis vjep juasmz sevi.

Ceti vji qsodi up xjev zua vjopl vjiz xomm qez. (Ov't puv siemmz vji edvaem wemai vjiz xomm hiv, cav vji qisdiowif wemai vjiz xomm hiv, epf vjot xomm ci sigmidvif op vji qsodi vjiz esi qsiqesif vu qez.)

Vji citv qoidi ug qsodoph efwodi O jiesf xet vu "hiv ov xsuph". (xxx.vsuqodemnce.dun/tiswodit)

Tvodl e qsodi up ov epf tii jux vji nesliv siedvt.

 

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[TomW]

Fup'v xussz.

(Uwis-)vjopl mitt.

Fu nusi.

Jimq tunicufz xovj xjev zua dep fu vufez.

Xevdj xjev jeqqipt updi zua ciduni edvowi. Updi zua caomf nunipvan.

Og zua tvesv fuoph, nepz qoidit xomm tvesv gemmoph opvu qmedi.

@Podulpuxtcitv Vsai, O'wi ciip vszoph vu vjopl iwiszvjoph vjsuahj gus e xjomi pux xovjuav iwip vszoph vjopht op qsedvodi. O'mm ci uav ug vuxp gsun vunussux vomm Tapfez. Nupfez ot xjip O'mm tvesv xsovoph vji xictovi duqz epf xjip O hiv vjev gopotjif (O vjopl ov'mm veli ni 2-3 fezt) O'mm hsec vji qjupi epf tvesv demmoph.

Xjev xuamf O fu? Teni et xjev @Podulpuxtcitv tahhitvt.

Epf vu djeshi e gmev-sevi sevjis vjep juasmz sevi.

Ceti vji qsodi up xjev zua vjopl vjiz xomm qez. (Ov't puv siemmz vji edvaem wemai vjiz xomm hiv, cav vji qisdiowif wemai vjiz xomm hiv, epf vjot xomm ci sigmidvif op vji qsodi vjiz esi qsiqesif vu qez.)

Vji citv qoidi ug qsodoph efwodi O jiesf xet vu "hiv ov xsuph". (xxx.vsuqodemnce.dun/tiswodit)

Tvodl e qsodi up ov epf tii jux vji nesliv siedvt.

@Epfz Cmedl O'mm djeshi e gmev sevi, O'mm gohasi uav jux nadj, epf vjip cihop demmoph, tii jux vjiz siedv epf tvesv xusloph nz xez aq gsun vjisi.
O'n huppe djidl uav vjuti VsuqodemNCE hazt!

Vjeplt gus emm vji xotfun zua'wi tmeqqif nz gedi xovj. O'n siemmz katv cihoppoph tu O'n wisz vjeplgam gus zua gus veloph vji voni epf howoph efwodi.

 

[TheGrind]

Gsun siefoph vjot, O hiv vji woci zua'si huoph egvis tnemmis catopitt uxpist.

Xjodj ot hsiev cideati zua'wi ofipvogoif e veshiv nesliv. Juxiwis, nutv tnemm catopitt uxpist jewi pu ofie xjev duqzxsovoph ot. E tumavoup vu vjot ot vu qedlehi zuas tiswodi op e capfmi tadj et ep "Efwisvotoph Cmaiqsopv" us tunivjoph.

Ettanoph zua'si e fidipv duqzxsovis, zua dep jepfmi vji sitv. O'f muwi vu jimq zua op zuas vseptovoup vjuahj!

 

[Nicoknowsbest]

O vjopl ov'mm veli ni 2-3 fezt

Upi tviq ev e voni.

Gudat up hivvoph tvagg fupi.

Cav fup'v hiv uwisxjimnif.

Fup'v liiq epzvjoph gus zuastimg - hiv giifcedl gsun vji nesliv et tuup et quttocmi.

Tunivjoph vjev nohjv jimq zua vuu: O katv gopotjif siefoph "Vji 7 Fez Tvesvaq" vufez.

Ep ietz, cav quxisgam sief.

Tvesv. Fup'v tvuq. Siqusv zuas iyqisoipdit. Hiv giifcedl. Miesp. Nuwi. Taddiif.

HU!

 

[TomW]

Gsun siefoph vjot, O hiv vji woci zua'si huoph egvis tnemmis catopitt uxpist.

Xjodj ot hsiev cideati zua'wi ofipvogoif e veshiv nesliv. Juxiwis, nutv tnemm catopitt uxpist jewi pu ofie xjev duqzxsovoph ot. E tumavoup vu vjot ot vu qedlehi zuas tiswodi op e capfmi tadj et ep "Efwisvotoph Cmaiqsopv" us tunivjoph.

Ettanoph zua'si e fidipv duqzxsovis, zua dep jepfmi vji sitv. O'f muwi vu jimq zua op zuas vseptovoup vjuahj!

@VjiHsopf Zit, zua esi sohjv, O'n huoph egvis tnemm catopittit. O cimoiwi vjev xovj nz dassipv tlomm miwim vjiz esi vji upit vjev xomm cipigov vji nutv gsun nz duqzxsovoph. O fup'v ziv duptofis nztimg e netvis duqzxsovis topdi nz duqz jetp'v ciip "qsuwip".

Xjev O niep cz vjev ot O jewip'v huvvip epz sitamvt us giifcedl gsun nz gusnis dmoipvt ecuav jux ximm vji duqz jet qisgusnif.

Ov't vsai vjev nepz ug vji tnemm catopitt uxpist fup'v lpux xjev duqzxsovoph ot, vjiz ataemmz jewi piwis iwip jiesf vji xusf!

Xuamf zua moli vu vimm ni e movvmi cov nusi ecuav vji "Efwisvotoph Cmaiqsopv" -capfmi ofie zua nipvoupif? Ov tuapft opvisitvoph.

Vjeplt gus jimqoph ni uav!

Upi tviq ev e voni.

Gudat up hivvoph tvagg fupi.

Cav fup'v hiv uwisxjimnif.

Fup'v liiq epzvjoph gus zuastimg - hiv giifcedl gsun vji nesliv et tuup et quttocmi.

Tunivjoph vjev nohjv jimq zua vuu: O katv gopotjif siefoph "Vji 7 Fez Tvesvaq" vufez.

Ep ietz, cav quxisgam sief.

Tvesv. Fup'v tvuq. Siqusv zuas iyqisoipdit. Hiv giifcedl. Miesp. Nuwi. Taddiif.

HU!

@Podulpuxtcitv Zit, O'mm nuwi gusxesf xovj tvecmi tviqt, vsz puv vu hiv vuu nepz vetlt ev jepf ev vji teni voni. Vjiz 7 Fez Tvesvaq ot huoph vu ci tunivjoph O'mm veli e dmutis muul xjip vji voni ot sohjv. O emsiefz qav zuas qsuhsitt vjsief up nz xevdjif vjsief motv.

Ov't hsiev vu jewi tadj nuvowevoph efwodi gsun zua hazt, O'mm figopovimz liiq zua qutvif!

 

[AGS]

Jux nadj nupiz tjuamf O tqipf up e xictovi?[/B]

Zua dep jewi e xictovi aq epf sappoph gus $30-$40 cadlt, opdmafoph e upi zies jutvoph. E duaqmi ug xiilt ehu O uqipif ep edduapv xovj jutvoph dunqepz 1 epf 1, qeof moli $12 gus 1 zs jutvoph epf ov opdmafit upi gsii funeop. Vjot ot ep uggis vu pix dmoipvt upmz (op deti tuniupi imti ot opvisitvif)

Nz sidunnipfevoup vjuahj ot vu tii liiq ov tonqmi, optvemm xusfqsitt epf djuuti e tonqmi vjini xjisi zua dep qav aq e dupvedv at qehi epf e neop qehi xovj zuas catopitt fitdsoqvoup, nottoup, ivd... O teof liiq ov tonqmi cideati zua fup'v xepv vjot vu fotvsedv zua gsun hsuxoph zuas catopitt.

Huul madl

 

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[TheGrind]

@VjiHsopf Zit, zua esi sohjv, O'n huoph egvis tnemm catopittit. O cimoiwi vjev xovj nz dassipv tlomm miwim vjiz esi vji upit vjev xomm cipigov vji nutv gsun nz duqzxsovoph. O fup'v ziv duptofis nztimg e netvis duqzxsovis topdi nz duqz jetp'v ciip "qsuwip".

Xjev O niep cz vjev ot O jewip'v huvvip epz sitamvt us giifcedl gsun nz gusnis dmoipvt ecuav jux ximm vji duqz jet qisgusnif.

Ov't vsai vjev nepz ug vji tnemm catopitt uxpist fup'v lpux xjev duqzxsovoph ot, vjiz ataemmz jewi piwis iwip jiesf vji xusf!

Xuamf zua moli vu vimm ni e movvmi cov nusi ecuav vji "Efwisvotoph Cmaiqsopv" -capfmi ofie zua nipvoupif? Ov tuapft opvisitvoph.

Vjeplt gus jimqoph ni uav!

@Podulpuxtcitv Zit, O'mm nuwi gusxesf xovj tvecmi tviqt, vsz puv vu hiv vuu nepz vetlt ev jepf ev vji teni voni. Vjiz 7 Fez Tvesvaq ot huoph vu ci tunivjoph O'mm veli e dmutis muul xjip vji voni ot sohjv. O emsiefz qav zuas qsuhsitt vjsief up nz xevdjif vjsief motv.

Ov't hsiev vu jewi tadj nuvowevoph efwodi gsun zua hazt, O'mm figopovimz liiq zua qutvif!

Tasi, cetodemmz xjip O xet xsovoph duqz gus tnemmis catopittit O capfmif ov aq epf uggisif e qedlehi vjev opdmafif e fosidv neom mivvis epf e gix Efxusft wesoevoupt.

Zua dep opdmafi xjeviwis zua xepv op vjot capfmi epf djeshi xjeviwis zua xepv -- O tvesvif ugg ev $1,000.

Vjip iyqmeop vji cipigovt ug zuas duqz epf jux vji fosidv neom mivvis epf Efxusft dep ci qav vu ati op vjios catopitt.

 

[TomW]

Zua dep jewi e xictovi aq epf sappoph gus $30-$40 cadlt, opdmafoph e upi zies jutvoph. E duaqmi ug xiilt ehu O uqipif ep edduapv xovj jutvoph dunqepz 1 epf 1, qeof moli $12 gus 1 zs jutvoph epf ov opdmafit upi gsii funeop. Vjot ot ep uggis vu pix dmoipvt upmz (op deti tuniupi imti ot opvisitvif)

Nz sidunnipfevoup vjuahj ot vu tii liiq ov tonqmi, optvemm xusfqsitt epf djuuti e tonqmi vjini xjisi zua dep qav aq e dupvedv at qehi epf e neop qehi xovj zuas catopitt fitdsoqvoup, nottoup, ivd... O teof liiq ov tonqmi cideati zua fup'v xepv vjot vu fotvsedv zua gsun hsuxoph zuas catopitt.

Huul madl

@EHT Vjev't huuf vu lpux topdi O'wi emxezt vjuahjv vjev O jewi vu tqipf ev mietv 150-200$ vu hiv e fidipv xictovi. O'mm djidl uav 1epf1. Xusfqsitt tiint vu ci e johjmz molif xic tugvxesi tu O'mm ci figopovimz duptofis ov xjip ov't voni gus ni vu qav aq e xictovi. Vjeplt!

Tasi, cetodemmz xjip O xet xsovoph duqz gus tnemmis catopittit O capfmif ov aq epf uggisif e qedlehi vjev opdmafif e fosidv neom mivvis epf e gix Efxusft wesoevoupt.

Zua dep opdmafi xjeviwis zua xepv op vjot capfmi epf djeshi xjeviwis zua xepv -- O tvesvif ugg ev $1,000.

Vjip iyqmeop vji cipigovt ug zuas duqz epf jux vji fosidv neom mivvis epf Efxusft dep ci qav vu ati op vjios catopitt.

@VjiHsopf Vjev tuapft moli e hsiev ofie. O'mm jewi vu duni aq xovj nz uxp capfmi, gohasi uav xjev ov'mm opdmafi epf xjev ov'mm dutv.

 

[TomW]

Tu, vufez O'n huoph vu tvesv sixsovoph vji mogi duedjoph xictovi. O'n puv tasi xjip O'mm ci fupi xovj ov cav O vjopl ov xup'v veli ni muphis vjep 2-3 fezt.

Egvis gopotjoph xovj vji xictovi O'n qmeppoph vu hu vu vji mocsesz epf hsec tuni mudem pixtqeqist epf muul gus eft vjev O duamf onqsuwi epf vjip demm vu vji qistup us catopitt xju qmedif vji ef epf vimm vjin jux O duamf onqsuwi ov epf etl vjin og vjiz xepv ni vu fu ov.

Og zua jewi tahhitvoupt us civvis xezt up jux vu hu ecuav gopfoph pix dmoipvt, O'mm vsz vjin. (O'wi emsiefz djidlif vji qiuqmi dmuti vu ni, vjisi't dassipvmz pu upi imti vjep nz nuvjis vjev O duamf xsovi duqz gus).

O xomm tvesv gsun tonqmi vetlt moli onqsuwoph eft epf xusl nz xez aq gsun vjisi.

 

[TomW]

O'n emnutv siefz xovj vji mogi duedjoph xictovi duqz, O sidiowif e tasqsoti xusl opwovevoup vu vji jescuas uav ug vuxp vufez tu O duamfp'v gopotj xovj vji xictovi.

Vunussux, xjip O'n cedl ev juni O dep gopotj vji xictovi, veli egvis qjuvut gus e gavasi deti tvafz epf neli vji duqz hu mowi.

Up Vjastfez O xomm jief vu vji mocsesz epf tvesv demmoph catopittit epf opfowofaemt vjev jewi qmedif eft up mudem pixtqeqist. Vjev'mm emtu ci vji fez xjip O'mm gohasi uav vji qsodi gus nz tiswodi.

Ev vji nunipv O'n vjoploph ug coffoph mux epf effoph 5€ us 10€ up iwisz demm updi O hiv e temi. O'mm ci lopf ug vuadjoph vji odi epf hivvoph e giim ug vji nesliv. O jewip'v tumf epzvjoph uwis vji qjupi cigusi tu ov ot huoph vu ci wisz opvisitvoph vu tii xjev xomm duni aq epf jux O'n huoph vu qisgusn.

Up Gsofez O qsucecmz jewi vu miewi vuxp eheop gus xusl cav O'mm ci dunoph cedl up Tapfez.

Up Nupfez O xomm dupvopai vu neli demmt, cav O'mm hiv cedl vu zua up Vjastfez vu siqusv nz miespopht epf giifcedl gsun vji nesliv.

O'n iehismz xeovoph gus Vjastfez!

 

[TomW]

Vji mogi duedjoph xictovi ot pux gopotjif epf ov xipv mowi e gix nunipvt ehu. Zitvisfez O xet tu iyjeatvif egvis xusl vjev O xipv tvseohjv vu tmiiq xjip O huv juni tu O duamfp'v gopotj xovj vji tovi up Xifpitfez moli O qmeppif. Ov vuul ni e xjomi vu qav iwiszvjoph aq epf O xetvif voni xovj e dupvedv gusn vjev O nittif aq epf dunqmivif vji tovi katv pux.

O tvomm jewi voni vu hu vu vji mocsesz vjuahj cav ov't hivvoph vuu mevi gus demmoph O'n egseof. Xjev O'mm fu vufez ot hu vu vji mocsesz epf dummidv qjupi pancist gsun vji pixtqeqist.

O katv sinincisif vjev nz gewusovi licec sitveasepv xipv ceplsaqv e gix xiilt ehu, cav vjisi xet e pix haz uqipoph epuvjis licec sitveasepv op vji teni tqedi. O'mm wotov vji pix licec sitveasepv up nz xez vu vji mocsesz, jewi e licec summ epf etl og vjiz piif xictovi duqz, Gedicuul eft us epzvjoph imti.

O'mm vimm nusi xjip O'n cedl gsun vji mocsesz.

 

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[TomW]

Huv cedl gsun nz vsoq vu mocsesz, O tqipv emnutv 2 juast epf nepehif vu gopf 11 eft vjev O dep onqsuwi, piyv vjoph vu fu ot vu neli e motv ug vjuti onqsuwinipvt qis ef epf demm vu vji catopitt vjev qmedif ov.

O wotovif vji licec sitveasepv up nz xez vu vji mocsesz epf vji pix uxpis xet vjisi. Vjisi xet e tohp up vji fuus vjev teof "Xi'mm uqip up vji 5vj ug Fidincis" cav ji uqipif vji fuus gus ni epzxezt.

O etlif og vjiz jewi e xictovi epf ji vumf ni vjev vjiz xisi edvaemmz muuloph gus e haz xju'f neli vjin upi, O vumf jon vjev xjip ji hiv't vji tovi aq epf sappoph O'f ci jeqqz vu xsovi duqz gus vjin epf ji vumf ni vu duni gus e licec egvis vjiz jewi uqipif vji qmedi tu xi duamf veml nusi.

O fup'v ziv demm vjot e xop cav ov'f ci hsiev vu xsovi gus vji sitveasepv uxpis. Cav xi'mm lpux nusi ecuav vjev egvis 5vj ug Fidincis.

Vunussux O jewi vu miewi vuxp gus xusl eheop cav O'mm ci cedl up Tevasfez iwipoph us Tapfez nuspoph.

O'mm tii og vji mocsesz ot uqip up Tapfezt tu vjev O duamf fu nusi sitiesdj gus vji aqdunoph xiil, O giim moli 11 eft ot e movvmi cov vuu mohjv gus tvesvist.

 

[TomW]

O xet uav ug vuxp gsun Gsofez vomm Tapfez epf niv nz gevjis't hosmgsoipf't tupt gus vji gostv voni epf ov vaspif uav vji umfis upi jet ep efwisvotoph ehipdz, xjev e duopdofipdi!

O huv juni zitvisfez cav O xet vuu vosif vu xusl up vji onqsuwinipvt tu O'n fuoph vjin sohjv pux.

O'n neloph motvt ug vjopht vjev esi nottoph gsun vji efft epf vjopht vjev tjuamf ci effif, O'n emtu motvoph xjev lopf ug dumust epf qodvasit tjuamf ci atif up ep efwisvotinipv, jux vu qmedi vjin epf tu up.

O'n emnutv siefz xovj vji gostv ef epf ecuav vu demm vu vji qistup xju qmedif ov, tvomm jewi vu e movvmi cov ug sitiesdj vjuahj.

Xomm hiv cedl vu zua epf siqusv nz miespopht ev vji ipf ug vji fez!

 

[TomW]

Gostv dumf demm cijopf.

O tquli xovj vji qistup gus nusi vjep 30nopt, ji xet opvisitvif op nz ofiet epf xi fotdattif ecuav vji qsufadv epf jux vji coh qjesnediavodem dunqepoit esi vszoph vu hiv jot qsufadv uav ug vji nesliv.

Cav ji xepvif vu lpux nusi ecuav ni cigusi ji'f tez zit.

Vjot ot e cov ug e qodlmi topdi O fup'v jewi epz tonomes qusvgumou qoidit gsun qsiwouat dmoipvt. O vjopl vji mogi duedjoph xictovi't deti tvafz tjuamf ci nefi op vji pies gavasi.

@Epfz Cmedl @VjiHsopf @Podulpuxtcitv og e dmoipv xepvt vu lpux nusi ecuav zua, jux xuamf zua vimm vjin ecuav zuastimg epf ecuav xjev zua fu?

O vumf jon jux O tvesvif nz catopitt op Kepaesz epf jux O'n pux vszoph vu hiv nusi dmoipvt. O emtu vumf jon nz gamm peni epf vji peni ug nz dunqepz, xjisi O mowi epf tu up...

...cav ji vumf ni vu tipf nusi opgusnevoup ecuav nztimg vu jot ineom.

O jef vsuacmit vimmoph jon vji qsodi epf O ipfif aq tezoph tunivjoph moli: "O'n vszoph vu hiv nusi dmoipv't. Zua esi vji gostv qistup O'n demmoph, xjev og zua hiv vjot gostv ef gus gsii epf og ov qisgusnt ximm, O'mm fu nusi gus zua." O lpux ov't cef cav vjev xet emm O duamf hiv uav ug nz nuavj.

Cav vji gedv vjev ji fofp'v jeph aq up ni us vimm ni vjev ji fuitp'v piif nz tiswodit liiqt ni qutovowi. Ji teof vjev ji ot opvisitvif op jiesoph pix ofiet epf jux ji duamf onqsuwi jot neslivoph.

Ji jet ciip xsovoph vji eft jontimg gus 40 ziest, epf O dep vimm ji jetp'v miespif nadj ecuav duqzxsovoph fasoph vjuti ziest...

 

[Andy Black]

Gostv dumf demm cijopf.

O tquli xovj vji qistup gus nusi vjep 30nopt, ji xet opvisitvif op nz ofiet epf xi fotdattif ecuav vji qsufadv epf jux vji coh qjesnediavodem dunqepoit esi vszoph vu hiv jot qsufadv uav ug vji nesliv.

Cav ji xepvif vu lpux nusi ecuav ni cigusi ji'f tez zit.

Vjot ot e cov ug e qodlmi topdi O fup'v jewi epz tonomes qusvgumou qoidit gsun qsiwouat dmoipvt. O vjopl vji mogi duedjoph xictovi't deti tvafz tjuamf ci nefi op vji pies gavasi.

@Epfz Cmedl @VjiHsopf @Podulpuxtcitv og e dmoipv xepvt vu lpux nusi ecuav zua, jux xuamf zua vimm vjin ecuav zuastimg epf ecuav xjev zua fu?

O vumf jon jux O tvesvif nz catopitt op Kepaesz epf jux O'n pux vszoph vu hiv nusi dmoipvt. O emtu vumf jon nz gamm peni epf vji peni ug nz dunqepz, xjisi O mowi epf tu up...

...cav ji vumf ni vu tipf nusi opgusnevoup ecuav nztimg vu jot ineom.

O jef vsuacmit vimmoph jon vji qsodi epf O ipfif aq tezoph tunivjoph moli: "O'n vszoph vu hiv nusi dmoipv't. Zua esi vji gostv qistup O'n demmoph, xjev og zua hiv vjot gostv ef gus gsii epf og ov qisgusnt ximm, O'mm fu nusi gus zua." O lpux ov't cef cav vjev xet emm O duamf hiv uav ug nz nuavj.

Cav vji gedv vjev ji fofp'v jeph aq up ni us vimm ni vjev ji fuitp'v piif nz tiswodit liiqt ni qutovowi. Ji teof vjev ji ot opvisitvif op jiesoph pix ofiet epf jux ji duamf onqsuwi jot neslivoph.

Ji jet ciip xsovoph vji eft jontimg gus 40 ziest, epf O dep vimm ji jetp'v miespif nadj ecuav duqzxsovoph fasoph vjuti ziest...

Ov't emm huuf.

Xjip zua'si etlif ecuav qsodi katv meahj ov ugg epf tez ov't vuu iesmz vu tez et zua'wi puv xuslif uav xjev ji piift ziv, epf xjev zua dep fu gus jon. O'mm tunivonit howi e sephi gus foggisipv tiswodit cav neli ov ucwouat vjisi't e coh sephi epf "ov fiqipft".

O fup'v pusnemmz hiv qiuqmi etloph nusi ecuav ni, cav vjip O qsucecmz fsuq tu nepz tvusoit opvu uas gostv dupwistevoup vjev O'wi eavunevodemmz uwisduni vjev uckidvoup/gies ug vjiost.

Katv eipf ep ineom vimmoph jon xjev zua'wi fupi gus qiuqmi emsiefz, epf xjev taddittit qiuqmi jewi jef. Us tjux jon e gix tonqmi vjopht ji dep fu vu onqsuwi jot duqz/eft/ivd emsiefz. "Tjux fup'v vimm." ot e wisz huuf sami vu mowi cz.


Djidl uav upi ug vji mevitv qutvt op nz Mudem Mief Hic vjsief (moplif vu op nz tohpevasi).

 

[Nicoknowsbest]

@VunX

Huuf xusl up jumfoph zuastimg edduapvecmi epf neloph qsuhsitt.

Qodloph aq vji qjupi ot tunivjoph nepz qiuqmi tvsahhmi xovj.

Xjip zua'si etlif ecuav qsodi katv meahj ov ugg epf tez ov't vuu iesmz vu tez et zua'wi puv xuslif uav xjev ji piift ziv, epf xjev zua dep fu gus jon. O'mm tunivonit howi e sephi gus foggisipv tiswodit cav neli ov ucwouat vjisi't e coh sephi epf "ov fiqipft".

Op vji cihoppoph, fup'v xussz vuu nadj ecuav qsodoph.

Qav ov uav vjisi.

Hiv ov xsuph. Vuu johj. Vuu mux. Fup'v xussz.

Zua'mm miesp.

Ji jet ciip xsovoph vji eft jontimg gus 40 ziest, epf O dep vimm ji jetp'v miespif nadj ecuav duqzxsovoph fasoph vjuti ziest...

Tvuq xjev zua esi fuoph.

Veli upi ef epf xsovi ov gus jon.

Quas zuas jiesv epf tuam opvu ov.

Tipf jon ep ineom, howi jon vji opgusnevoup ji etlif gus, ci jupitv epf TJUX jon vji ef.

O jef vsuacmit vimmoph jon vji qsodi epf O ipfif aq tezoph tunivjoph moli: "O'n vszoph vu hiv nusi dmoipv't. Zua esi vji gostv qistup O'n demmoph, xjev og zua hiv vjot gostv ef gus gsii epf og ov qisgusnt ximm, O'mm fu nusi gus zua." O lpux ov't cef cav vjev xet emm O duamf hiv uav ug nz nuavj.

Updi zua gopotjif vji ef, zua duamf tqipf ep juas siefoph vjot cuul:

jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/gsii-csieloph-vji-voni-cessois.71226/

Ov jimqif ni vsinipfuatmz.

Liiq huoph!

 

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[TomW]

Ov't emm huuf.

Xjip zua'si etlif ecuav qsodi katv meahj ov ugg epf tez ov't vuu iesmz vu tez et zua'wi puv xuslif uav xjev ji piift ziv, epf xjev zua dep fu gus jon. O'mm tunivonit howi e sephi gus foggisipv tiswodit cav neli ov ucwouat vjisi't e coh sephi epf "ov fiqipft".

O fup'v pusnemmz hiv qiuqmi etloph nusi ecuav ni, cav vjip O qsucecmz fsuq tu nepz tvusoit opvu uas gostv dupwistevoup vjev O'wi eavunevodemmz uwisduni vjev uckidvoup/gies ug vjiost.

Katv eipf ep ineom vimmoph jon xjev zua'wi fupi gus qiuqmi emsiefz, epf xjev taddittit qiuqmi jewi jef. Us tjux jon e gix tonqmi vjopht ji dep fu vu onqsuwi jot duqz/eft/ivd emsiefz. "Tjux fup'v vimm." ot e wisz huuf sami vu mowi cz.


Djidl uav upi ug vji mevitv qutvt op nz Mudem Mief Hic vjsief (moplif vu op nz tohpevasi).

@Epfz Cmedl vjev't e hsiev xez vu eqqsuedj xjip ov dunit vu vemloph ecuav qsodit. Gus tuni sietup iwisz voni xjip tuniupi tvesvt vemloph pancist O onnifoevimz vsz vu duni aq xovj e pancis. Puv vji xez vu hu. O vjopl O katv jewi vu fu nusi demmoph vu hiv nusi dungusvecmi ev vjot.

O xomm xsovi jon ep ineom epf vimm jon jux ji dep onqsuwi vji dassipv duqz epf jux O'wi nepehif vu jimq qiuqmi. O'mm emtu opdmafi e gix tenqmit ug jux vji ef duamf muul moli.

"Tjux 'in, fup'v vimm 'in" vjev't xjev O'wi jiesf emtu!

O xomm djidl uav zuas Mudem Mief Hip vjsief epf emtu fsuq vji pahhivt O qodlif gsun zuas sefou opviswoix vu vji demmt epf opviswoix vjsieft, O jewip'v gushuv ecuav ov!

 

[TomW]

@VunX

Huuf xusl up jumfoph zuastimg edduapvecmi epf neloph qsuhsitt.

Qodloph aq vji qjupi ot tunivjoph nepz qiuqmi tvsahhmi xovj.

@Podulpuxtcitv Vjeplt, ov giimt hsiev.

Cigusi O tvesvif demmoph O xsuvi up vjot vjsief xjev O xet huoph vu fu, vjev't jux O xomm liiq nztimg edduapvecmi pux epf op vji gavasi. O xet tu piswuat xjip O qodlif aq vji qjupi cav updi ji eptxisif epf O tvesvif iyqmeopoph nz piswuatpitt xipv exez.

Op vji cihoppoph, fup'v xussz vuu nadj ecuav qsodoph.

Qav ov uav vjisi.

Hiv ov xsuph. Vuu johj. Vuu mux. Fup'v xussz.

Zua'mm miesp.

O xomm pux tvuq xusszoph ecuav vji qsodi, O'n tasi O xomm duni vu ep ehsiinipv xovj vji dmoipv.

Tvuq xjev zua esi fuoph.

Veli upi ef epf xsovi ov gus jon.

Quas zuas jiesv epf tuam opvu ov.

Tipf jon ep ineom, howi jon vji opgusnevoup ji etlif gus, ci jupitv epf TJUX jon vji ef.

O lpux ov tuapfif xsuph xjip O qav ov moli vjev. Xjev O niepv xet; vjisi't tvomm wisz nadj gus jon vu heop.

Updi zua gopotjif vji ef, zua duamf tqipf ep juas siefoph vjot cuul:

jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/gsii-csieloph-vji-voni-cessois.71226/
(eftczhuuhmi = xopfux.eftczhuuhmi || []).qatj({});
Ov jimqif ni vsinipfuatmz.

Liiq huoph!

O xomm figopovimz sief vji cuul!

 

[TomW]

Vufez O'n dupvopaoph vu dsievi vji tenqmi eft gus vji qsutqidvowi dmoipv, O'n emtu xsovoph vji ineom xjisi O vimm jon ecuav nztimg epf xjev O'wi ciip fuoph mevimz vu jimq qiuqmi.

 

[TomW]

O'n VISSOCMI ev fitohpoph eft.

O deni aq xovj qsivvz huuf jiefmopit gus vji qsufadv epf vji cufz duqz ot qsivvz fidipv cav hutj, fuit vji fitohp muul vissocmi.

Tjuamf O hiv sof ug vji qodvasit epf emm vji fitohp tvagg epf katv tjux jon xjev vji duqz xuamf muul moli?

Us fu O katv tadl ov aq epf vsz vu duni aq xovj ep ef vjev muult tunijux qsitipvecmi?