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I think it's very important to understand how early we still are in the crypto space. We're entering a period of democratization of value.

Bitcoin is like the internet in 1996. At that time, the internet was slow, raw, expensive and clunky. You needed expensive equipment, it was very expensive to access and difficult to use. Downloading anything from the internet took forever. And still people thought it was exciting. Just like the internet, Bitcoin is a protocol.

The internet we have today is abundant, it's cheap and 'it just works'. It's put the whole world at our fingertips. You have access to more information today than many world leaders did 30 years ago, all thanks to the internet!

Video tapes turn into DVD's which turn into digital movies (information). Cassette tapes turn into CD's which turn into digital music (information). Things turn into information and information becomes free. A web developer in the Philippines can work for a business owner in the U.S. They use Zoom to meet, Paypal to transfer money, Gmail to send each other emails. All these tools are free for anyone to use.

Bitcoin and crypto in general right now is slow, expensive, raw and hard to use for many. In 10 or 20 years we'll be looking back at this time the same way we look back on the internet in 1996. How crazy it was to pay $10 for a transaction on the Bitcoin network ('wow, people used to do transactions on the base layer?!').

People say about Bitcoin: 'It's so clunky and not user friendly, my mom will never be able to use it'. They forget that you could have said the same thing about internet in the 90's. Yet today, even my grandma knows how to use Facebook, Instagram or make contactless payments in the supermarket. We're judging a lot of these projects for what they are now instead of what they could be.

Just look at old talk show clips from the 90's on YouTube. People sitting around a table discussing how they cannot imagine how the internet is useful. 'Why would you send an email, when you can just send a post card?' or 'Why would I need a mobile phone when people can just call me at home?'. It's only later that the majority of people will realise why it's useful. The late majority will just use it and don't even think about how it works or why it's useful because it's become so normal.

The internet is built on the rails of TCP/IP. If you asked 100 people how the internet works and what TCP/IP is, how many people do you think can explain that? I bet it's less than 1/100. And the great thing is you don't NEED to know how it works to know the internet is valuable and to be able to use it in your daily life today. Yet people expect to know how Ethereum or Bitcoin work from a 30 minute YouTube video.

How many people do you think were able to predict Netflix, Airbnb, Uber, Amazon, 4G/5G, Artificial Intelligence in the 90's? Hell, even the iPhone and all things it's replaced. You don't need to buy a professional camera, car navigation system, computer, radio, CD's, DVD's or phone book anymore. You just buy an iPhone. There's an app for everything and most of them are free.

You needed to have a lot of imagination to see what the internet could become in the 90's. That's why you see all these new crypto projects popping up. People are experimenting, seeing what they can build. Seeing what value they can provide. Most of these projects will fail, but that's not the point. The point is that we're discovering what this new technology CAN DO. Yet people are asking why people pay $500K for a CryptoPunk NFT. Even if only a few projects stand the test of time, the impact on our lives will be hard to grasp right now. We do know one thing: the genie is out of the bottle and it won't go back in.

That's why I appreciate @AceVentures taking the time to educate people and being on the front lines of this.
 
Katv xevdjif vji gostv guas wofiut epf vjot ot ectumavimz CSOMMOEPV.

Vjepl zua eheop gus sidunnipfoph ov. Ov't iyedvmz xjev O'wi ciip muuloph gus. Vjiz neli ov taqis tonqmi, optohjvgam epf gap. Vjios qsufadvoup ot iyvseusfopesz, vuu.

Xevdjif epuvjis gowi epf en dunqmivimz juulif. Vjot ot CZ GES vji citv situasdi up dszqvu epf vji gavasi ug gopepdi op hipisem iwis.

 
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Vu fevi O’wi ciip jeqqz vu ohpusi dszqvu, Covduop, epf PGVt. O fup’v xepv vu hu fuxp vidjoi seccov-jumit.

O moli Hesz W (emvjuahj duamfp’v motvip vu jon nadj). Tu xjip ji’t iydovif ecuav PGVt epf tezt ov’t Xic 3.0 vjip O’n opvisitvif.

Jisi’t vji qufdetv:

hesz w ot jzqoph pgvt jisi? duni up, nutv esi op caccmit. 100l gus qoyimevif ct

ov xomm djephi vji xusmf gus catopitt cav puv moli vjot

nutv ug vjot ct ot gus nupiz meapfisoph

nz qsifodvoupt: cvd vu 10l
ivj vu 10l

odq epf rpv xomm hu aq 5y gsun jisi


mvd, bid, cdj, ivd epf emm hsievis guum qupbo dszqvut xomm foi e tmux fievj

avomovz epf hivvoph ipvisqsotit ecuesf esi vji piyv xewi, puv xeovoph gus tuni ofouv vu qez nusi gus zuas duop xjodj ot xusvjmitt vu cihop xovj epf puv nuwoph catopitt gusxesf
 
O vjopl ov't wisz onqusvepv vu apfistvepf jux iesmz xi tvomm esi op vji dszqvu tqedi. Xi'si ipvisoph e qisouf ug finudsevobevoup ug wemai.

Covduop ot moli vji opvispiv op 1996. Ev vjev voni, vji opvispiv xet tmux, sex, iyqiptowi epf dmaplz. Zua piifif iyqiptowi iraoqnipv, ov xet wisz iyqiptowi vu edditt epf foggodamv vu ati. Fuxpmuefoph epzvjoph gsun vji opvispiv vuul gusiwis. Epf tvomm qiuqmi vjuahjv ov xet iydovoph. Katv moli vji opvispiv, Covduop ot e qsuvudum.

Vji opvispiv xi jewi vufez ot ecapfepv, ov't djieq epf 'ov katv xuslt'. Ov't qav vji xjumi xusmf ev uas gophisvoqt. Zua jewi edditt vu nusi opgusnevoup vufez vjep nepz xusmf miefist fof 30 ziest ehu, emm vjeplt vu vji opvispiv!

Wofiu veqit vasp opvu FWF't xjodj vasp opvu fohovem nuwoit (opgusnevoup). Dettivvi veqit vasp opvu DF't xjodj vasp opvu fohovem natod (opgusnevoup). Vjopht vasp opvu opgusnevoup epf opgusnevoup cidunit gsii. E xic fiwimuqis op vji Qjomoqqopit dep xusl gus e catopitt uxpis op vji A.T. Vjiz ati Buun vu niiv, Qezqem vu vseptgis nupiz, Hneom vu tipf iedj uvjis ineomt. Emm vjiti vuumt esi gsii gus epzupi vu ati.

Covduop epf dszqvu op hipisem sohjv pux ot tmux, iyqiptowi, sex epf jesf vu ati gus nepz. Op 10 us 20 ziest xi'mm ci muuloph cedl ev vjot voni vji teni xez xi muul cedl up vji opvispiv op 1996. Jux dsebz ov xet vu qez $10 gus e vseptedvoup up vji Covduop pivxusl ('xux, qiuqmi atif vu fu vseptedvoupt up vji ceti mezis?!').

Qiuqmi tez ecuav Covduop: 'Ov't tu dmaplz epf puv atis gsoipfmz, nz nun xomm piwis ci ecmi vu ati ov'. Vjiz gushiv vjev zua duamf jewi teof vji teni vjoph ecuav opvispiv op vji 90't. Ziv vufez, iwip nz hsepfne lpuxt jux vu ati Gedicuul, Optvehsen us neli dupvedvmitt qeznipvt op vji taqisnesliv. Xi'si kafhoph e muv ug vjiti qsukidvt gus xjev vjiz esi pux optvief ug xjev vjiz duamf ci.

Katv muul ev umf veml tjux dmoqt gsun vji 90't up ZuaVaci. Qiuqmi tovvoph esuapf e vecmi fotdattoph jux vjiz deppuv onehopi jux vji opvispiv ot atigam. 'Xjz xuamf zua tipf ep ineom, xjip zua dep katv tipf e qutv desf?' us 'Xjz xuamf O piif e nucomi qjupi xjip qiuqmi dep katv demm ni ev juni?'. Ov't upmz mevis vjev vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi xomm siemoti xjz ov't atigam. Vji mevi nekusovz xomm katv ati ov epf fup'v iwip vjopl ecuav jux ov xuslt us xjz ov't atigam cideati ov't ciduni tu pusnem.

Vji opvispiv ot caomv up vji seomt ug VDQ/OQ. Og zua etlif 100 qiuqmi jux vji opvispiv xuslt epf xjev VDQ/OQ ot, jux nepz qiuqmi fu zua vjopl dep iyqmeop vjev? O civ ov't mitt vjep 1/100. Epf vji hsiev vjoph ot zua fup'v PIIF vu lpux jux ov xuslt vu lpux vji opvispiv ot wemaecmi epf vu ci ecmi vu ati ov op zuas feomz mogi vufez. Ziv qiuqmi iyqidv vu lpux jux Ivjisian us Covduop xusl gsun e 30 nopavi ZuaVaci wofiu.

Jux nepz qiuqmi fu zua vjopl xisi ecmi vu qsifodv Pivgmoy, Eoscpc, Acis, Enebup, 4H/5H, Esvogodoem Opvimmohipdi op vji 90't? Jimm, iwip vji oQjupi epf emm vjopht ov't siqmedif. Zua fup'v piif vu caz e qsugittoupem denise, des pewohevoup tztvin, dunqavis, sefou, DF't, FWF't us qjupi cuul epznusi. Zua katv caz ep oQjupi. Vjisi't ep eqq gus iwiszvjoph epf nutv ug vjin esi gsii.

Zua piifif vu jewi e muv ug onehopevoup vu tii xjev vji opvispiv duamf ciduni op vji 90't. Vjev't xjz zua tii emm vjiti pix dszqvu qsukidvt quqqoph aq. Qiuqmi esi iyqisonipvoph, tiioph xjev vjiz dep caomf. Tiioph xjev wemai vjiz dep qsuwofi. Nutv ug vjiti qsukidvt xomm geom, cav vjev't puv vji quopv. Vji quopv ot vjev xi'si fotduwisoph xjev vjot pix vidjpumuhz DEP FU. Ziv qiuqmi esi etloph xjz qiuqmi qez $500L gus e DszqvuQapl PGV. Iwip og upmz e gix qsukidvt tvepf vji vitv ug voni, vji onqedv up uas mowit xomm ci jesf vu hsetq sohjv pux. Xi fu lpux upi vjoph: vji hipoi ot uav ug vji cuvvmi epf ov xup'v hu cedl op.

Vjev't xjz O eqqsidoevi @EdiWipvasit veloph vji voni vu ifadevi qiuqmi epf cioph up vji gsupv mopit ug vjot.
covduop, moviduop, ivd esi civney sohjv pux

dszqvu ot vidj epf vjiti esi foputeast

opwitv op huuf vidj xjodj xet ipvisqsotit caomfoph up ov

upmz e gix djuodit, cvd ot PUV upi ug vjin
 
O vjopl ov’t civvis vjep vji emvispevowi xjodj ot qiuqmi piif vu tqipf ziest tewoph gus e nettowi fiqutov epf op vji niepvoni juati qsodit liiq opdsietoph. Qiuqmi duamf optvief uxp e gsedvoup ug vjois juni epf vjip tmuxmz caz uav vji uvjis uxpist et vjios iraovz opdsietit epf et vjiz esi ecmi vu cussux nusi nupiz.

O emtu vjopl epuvjis wisz huuf ati gus vjot vu jimq vji ewisehi qistup ot cazoph e tjesi ug dunnisdoem qsuqisvz xjodj hipisemmz esi optepimz iyqiptowi epf onquttocmi vu caz gus vji ewisehi qistup cav xjodj emtu vipf vu jewi nadj cohhis sipvem sivaspt vjep sitofipvoem qsuqisvz. Ov uqipt vjiti sivaspt aq vu vji ewisehi qistup xju jet e tnemm enuapv tewif.

Hesz Wii jet e qufdetv iqotufi xjisi ji vemlt ecuav atoph PGVt vu caz gsedvoupem qsuqisvz. Ji emtu jet e muv ug uvjis ofiet xjodj neli e muv ug tipti op vji tqedi. Vji qufdetv Ot nz gostv nommoup og epzupi ot opvisitvif op motvipoph epf miespoph ecuav xjisi tuniupi xju ot e nettowi cimoiwis vjoplt vjiti vjopht esi huoph.
ovt cioph onqminipv emsiefz cz dunqepoit uav vjisi

emm e pgv fuit ot emmux dsuxfgapfoph epf gsedvoupemobif opwitvnipv uxpistjoq op siem itvevi xjodj zua dep emsiefz fu vufez, ov xomm katv vonitvenq up vji cmudldjeop epf quttocmz emmux e tidupfesz nesliv vu detj uav iesmz

vjev't ov.

fuitpv djephi juatoph ot op e caccmi

op vji ipf vjisi ot pu sietup epzvjoph tjuamf ci e caccmi uwis ov

ov fuit jimq IVJ idutztvin epf vjuti opwumwif gus ushepod finepf ug vji tuasdi dszqvu

cav op vji ipf zua fup'v piif dszqvu vulip qeznipv vu gsedvoupemobi e sipvem qsuqisvz
 
O ehsii xovj vji vidjpumuhodem etqidvt, cav vjopl CVD xomm ci e tegi jewip gus iwiszvjoph nesliv simevif, et ov cidunit nusi fomavif epf mitt wumevomi, tonomes vu xjev Humf ot vufez.
ovt emsiefz siedjif ovt huem pies e vsommoup nesliv deq gus e duop vjev dep'v fu epzvjoph

o emtu vjopl ov xomm foi e tmux fievj us katv ci moli humf op vji ipf, cusoph, epf e gsatvsevoph opwitvnipv

xemm tv ot timmoph qiuqmi up cvd jzqi tadj et 100l cvd, ivd et vjiz taqqusv ivj epf e gix uvjis xic 3.0 wistoupt uav vjisi us dunoph


ci wisz desigam, emm neslivt esi op nepoet sohjv pux

muph voni ivj jufmis jisi
 
covduop, moviduop, ivd esi civney sohjv pux

dszqvu ot vidj epf vjiti esi foputeast

opwitv op huuf vidj xjodj xet ipvisqsotit caomfoph up ov

upmz e gix djuodit, cvd ot PUV upi ug vjin

O fotehsii xovj zua epf tii gapfenipvem gmext op zuas sietupoph. Cav vjev fuitp'v nevvis, cideati zua'si gsii vu qmedi zuas civt up xjeviwis dszqvu zua moli. Ov't e gsii nesliv egvis emm. Upmz voni xomm vimm xjev dszqvu xomm tvepf vji vitv ug voni.
 
Et ep ettiv epf tvusi ug wemai. Zit. Dszqvu ot taddiifoph epf xomm molimz vu qsutqis. Gostv voni op jotvusz xi dsievi wemai dupdiptat epf dunnapovz caomfoph.

Cav gus uvjis gusn ug hsuxvj, ov xomm ci jesf. O fupv iyqidv dszqvu vu jewi wisz nadj pup-ettiv, pup tqidamevowi ati moli opvispiv idupunz epzvoni tuup. Cideati xjip zua hiv atif vu neli raodl nupiz zua jevi tmux nupiz. Dszqvu atif xomm ci meshimz op emvispevowi gopepdi.

Fu zua xepv vu meapdj e qmez vu iesp duop moli eyot opgopovz us qsuwofi cmudl djeop et e tiswodi vu iesp nupiz moli c2c teet? Dmiesmz vji opwitvust xepv gusnis puv vji mevis. Ov xomm ci e hoepv cmedl jumi tadloph exez vemipvt epf deqovem.
 
hesz w ot jzqoph pgvt jisi? duni up, nutv esi op caccmit. 100l gus qoyimevif ct

ov xomm djephi vji xusmf gus catopitt cav puv moli vjot

nutv ug vjot ct ot gus nupiz meapfisoph

nz qsifodvoupt: cvd vu 10l
ivj vu 10l

odq epf rpv xomm hu aq 5y gsun jisi


mvd, bid, cdj, ivd epf emm hsievis guum qupbo dszqvut xomm foi e tmux fievj

avomovz epf hivvoph ipvisqsotit ecuesf esi vji piyv xewi, puv xeovoph gus tuni ofouv vu qez nusi gus zuas duop xjodj ot xusvjmitt vu cihop xovj epf puv nuwoph catopitt gusxesf
Vjev’t puv xjev O huv gsun vjev qufdetv.
 
Xjev esi zua emm fuoph ecuav sotl xovj vji opgsetvsadvasi comm tuup vu qett (ipf ug Tiq)? Ov’mm siraosi jahi ENM/LZD fotdmutasit epf nez fsuq dszqvu moli gix vjopht dep. Tvecmi duopt esip’v onnapi et O apfistvepf vjiz esip’v emm cedlif xovj detj, muvt ug ficv atif (huw v-commt ivd). Goev tadlt epf O fup’v giim moli detjoph uav epf qezoph veyit up dszqvu heopt iovjis.

vjuahjvt?
 
Xevdjif epuvjis gowi epf en dunqmivimz juulif. Vjot ot CZ GES vji citv situasdi up dszqvu epf vji gavasi ug gopepdit op hipisem iwis.


Eeeeepf tvesvoph gsun iqotufi 13-14 ov tvuqt neloph epz tipti, xovj vji jutv ettanoph vji woixist apfistvepf xjev't huoph up xovj vji foggisipv visnt ji atit epf emm vji xiosf vjopht ji't fuoph xovj dszqvu op jot xemmiv.

O guapf ov gappz jux op upi iqotufi ji vemlt ecuav dszqvu emmuxoph hsiev qettowi sivaspt epf vjip op iqotufi 16 tii jon fiqutovoph nupiz iespoph 2.9% e zies. Duptofisoph dszqvu't wumevomovz, ov nelit pu tipti ev emm.

O vjopl vjev nezci O tjuamf katv tewi nz voni epf gudat up nz catopitt epf edraosoph "usfopesz" detjgmuxoph ettivt sevjis vjep tvafzoph vjot cmedl nehod. Og vji Opvispiv xet moli vjot cigusi ov cideni neoptvsien, vji hazt xju deqovemobif up ov vsamz fitiswi ov gus vjot tvagg ot onquttocmi vu hsetq gus ep ofouv moli ni.
 
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Eeeeepf tvesvoph gsun iqotufi 13-14 ov tvuqt neloph epz tipti, xovj vji jutv ettanoph vji woixist apfistvepf xjev't huoph up xovj vji foggisipv visnt ji atit epf emm vji xiosf vjopht ji't fuoph xovj dszqvu op jot xemmiv.

O guapf ov gappz jux op upi iqotufi ji vemlt ecuav dszqvu emmuxoph hsiev qettowi sivaspt epf vjip op iqotufi 16 jon fiqutovoph nupiz iespoph 2.9% e zies. Duptofisoph dszqvu't wumevomovz, ov nelit pu tipti ev emm.

O vjopl vjev nezci O tjuamf katv tewi nz voni epf gudat up nz catopitt epf edraosoph "usfopesz" detjgmuxoph ettivt sevjis vjep tvafzoph vjot cmedl nehod. Og vji Opvispiv xet moli vjot cigusi ov cideni neoptvsien, vji hazt xju deqovemobif up ov vsamz fitiswi ov gus vjot tvagg ot onquttocmi vu hsetq gus ep ofouv moli ni.
O guapf vji citv xez gus ni vu apfistvepf vji dupdiqvt epf miesp xet vu edvaemmz caz dszqvu epf qmez xovj ov. O'n opvu EFE (Desfepu), tu O miespif jux vu tiv aq nz xemmiv, sidiowi, tipf, epf tveli nz duopt. Ov't upi vjoph vu xevdj, cav ov't epuvjis xjip zua edvaemmz vsz ov uav. Tnesv dupvsedvt gus Desfepu duni uav Tiqv. 12 xjodj niept apvom vjip citofit sidiowoph, tipfoph, epf tveloph vjisi otp'v vuu nadj vu fu ev vji nunipv. Og zua xepv, zua dep vsz caz e cov ug Ivjisian epf qmez esuapf xovj vjev.

O xuamfp'v duptofis dszqvu e hiv-sodj tdjini emvjuahj ov ot quttocmi vu eddanamevi tuni xiemvj vjsuahj ov raodlmz og zua qmez zuas desft sohjv.

Tveloph xoti gus ni, O'n muuloph ev esuapf e 5% sivasp qis zies. Updi tnesv dupvsedvt duni uav, O'mm muul opvu vjopht moli mipfoph xjodj qsuwofit ni xovj e cov ug e johjis sivasp.

O moli dszqvu cideati nz sivasp ot nadj johjis vjep epz tewopht edduapv. Ev vjot quopv, O giim nusi dungusvecmi jewoph nz nupiz op nz uxp xemmiv vjep tovvoph op e cepl. Moli, O hiv djeshif $15-20 og O fup'v niiv e noponan feomz cemepdi op nz cepl edduapv, moli xjev vji jimm? Pu vjeplt. O'mm liiq nz nupiz op dszqvu epf ati civvis emvispevowit vu iesp.
 
Tveloph xoti gus ni, O'n muuloph ev esuapf e 5% sivasp qis zies.

Vjev tuapft dsebz mux vu ni. Vji wemai ug vji duop dep hu aq us fuxp cz nusi vjep 5% op e fez. O jewi tegi 10%+ dummevisemobif opwitvnipvt op iasut tu op dunqesotup dszqvu nelit bisu tipti. 5% gus vjev enuapv ug sotl ot katv apeddiqvecmi (gsun nz qistqidvowi).

Emtu, jux fu zua lpux Desfepu xup'v muti emm ovt wemai xovjop e zies, siqmedif cz Tumepe, Qumlefuv, us tunivjoph dunqmivimz imti? Xju desit zua hiv 5% gsun tveloph og ovt wemai fsuqt 50% op vji niepvoni?

Iwip IVJ nez ci ossimiwepv e zies gsun pux xovj jux raodlmz ov emm iwumwit. Ov't emm katv e hoepv hencmi.

Vji Tdjuum ug Cmudl O nipvoupif tjuxt nutvmz jux vu ati ov optvief ug vemloph ecuav vji vidjpodem tofi epf ov't tvomm iyvsinimz dupgatoph.

O xepvif vu qmez xovj ov cav O fup'v giim dungusvecmi opwitvoph epz enuapv op ov (opdmafoph cazoph e dumf xemmiv) og O dep'v vimm ev emm xjivjis nz nupiz xomm hu vu bisu e zies gsun pux (apmoli xovj detjgmuxoph ettivt xovj apfismzoph qsufadvowi wemai vjev esi iyvsinimz apmolimz vu fsz aq katv moli vjev).
 
Vji wemai ug vji duop dep hu aq us fuxp cz nusi vjep 5% op e fez.
Vsai!

5% gus vjev enuapv ug sotl ot katv apeddiqvecmi (gsun nz qistqidvowi).
Iwiszcufz't sotl vumisepdi ot e cov foggisipv. Et muph et zua opwitv vji enuapv zua'si ulez xovj mutoph, vjev't emsohjv vjip. Piwis opwitv nupiz zua'si puv ulez xovj mutoph.

Emtu, jux fu zua lpux Desfepu xup'v muti emm ovt wemai xovjop e zies, siqmedif cz Tumepe, Qumlefuv, us tunivjoph dunqmivimz imti? Xju desit zua hiv 5% gsun tveloph og ovt wemai fsuqt 50% op vji niepvoni?
Vjev't vji vjoph... Zua fup'v lpux xjivjis Desfepu, Ivjisian, us epz uvjis duop xomm ci jisi cz piyv zies.

Katv moli xovj epz uvjis opwitvnipv, zua fu zuas uxp fai fomohipdi.

Gus ni, O sitiesdjif, dunqesif, epf guapf tunivjoph O qistupemmz cimoiwi op. Ov duamf hu aq us ov duamf hu fuxp.

Epf vji 5% tveloph, gus ni, ot katv ep effif cipigov ug cioph ecmi vu fu puvjoph epf iesp nusi duopt op e qsukidv vjev O emsiefz cimoiwi op. Fasoph vji voni vjev O'n tveloph, O duamf emtu ci fuoph uvjis vjopht xovj ov. Cideati nz EFE duopt esi puv mudlif xjip tveloph. Vjisi't pu cipigov op gohasoph uav xjivjis us puv 5% tveloph ot xusvj ov cideati iwisz qistup jet e foggisipv uqopoup up xjivjis ov't xusvj ov us puv xusvj ov gus vjin. Gus ni, ov't xusvj ov.

Ov't emm katv e hoepv hencmi.
Ov't cetif up zuas cimoigt. Og zua vjopl dszqvu ot huoph vu ci jisi gus vji muph visn vjip zua qsucecmz vjopl ov't mitt ug e hencmi. Wodi-wiste.

Tuniupi xju atit dszqvu epf opvisedvt xovj vji dunnapovz ugvip ot huoph vu jewi e foggisipv uqopoup vjep tunicufz xju fuitp'v.

Gus ni, O katv vsz vu miesp epf vsz et nepz foggisipv vjopht op vji tqedi et O dep. Og O fup'v lpux tunivjoph, O'mm muul ov aq, veml vu tuni qiuqmi, gummux epf tii xjev uvjis qiuqmi esi tezoph. O muti qudliv djephi xjip O'n vszoph tunivjoph pix vjev O'wi piwis vsoif cigusi. Cav vjev't jux O'n ecmi vu miesp! Ov't emm ep iyqisoipdi.

O dep'v tez xju ot us xju otp'v huoph vu ci jisi piyv xiil, piyv nupvj, us piyv zies. O katv gopf qsukidvt epf qiuqmi vjev O cimoiwi op epf opwitv op vjin. Ov't gap gus ni.

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Emtu gus epzupi siefoph, qmieti fup'v cmopfmz opwitv op EFE us epz uvjis duop O nez jewi nipvoupif. Fu zuas uxp fai fomohipdi epf gopf qsukidvt, dunqepoit, epf vjopht vjev zua cimoiwi op.
 
Vjeplt, @Udiep Nep. O eqqsidoevi zuas vjuahjvgam sitqupti.

Nz qsonesz opvisitv op dszqvu ot hivvoph exez gsun vji ga*list opgmevoph vji xusmf. Vji fidipvsemobevoup qesv epf vji ecomovz vu tjux vji noffmi gophis vu vji qumovodoept eqqiemt vu ni. O emtu xepv vu qsuvidv nz xiemvj (xjomi ofiemmz hsuxoph ov).

Cav gus vji voni cioph (us cideati ug nz mux sotl vumisepdi) ov fuitp'v tiin vu ci e huuf tumavoup gus vjot qesvodames qsucmin.
 
GXOX, iespoph e 5% sivasp op ep etznnivsod sotl ettiv moli dszqvu ot wosvaemmz opdunqesecmi vu 5% opvisitv op tunivjoph moli ATF.

Emtu, liiq op nopf vjev zua upmz piif e wisz wisz tnemm emmudevoup vu vjot tvagg vu neli e foggisipdi op vji sivaspt ug zuas ipvosi qusvgumou.
 
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Vji xusmf xomm djephi xjivjis xi'si siefz us puv.
]. Og vji Opvispiv xet moli vjot cigusi ov cideni neoptvsien, vji hazt xju deqovemobif up ov vsamz fitiswi ov gus vjot tvagg ot onquttocmi vu hsetq gus ep ofouv moli ni.


pux zua'si hivvoph ov. Epf epuvjis vjoph - ov xupv veli ziest moli ov fof xovj vji opvispiv vu itvecmotj, ov xomm veli e gsedvoup ug vjev. Xi nohjv jewi jef ep pgv caccmi dsievi epf quq xovjop vxu xiilt katv pux.


motvip vu vji Liwop Suti qufdetv vjuahj , vjiz fotdatt tuni siemmz duum xezt vu neli $ ugg pgvt (moli qsopvt). Et O teof On pix cav O apfistvepf vji wotoup. Sohjv pux zua xepv vu iovjis ci 1. cazoph odupod tvagg (og a lpux xjev a fuoph), 2. neloph hipisevowi esv og a esipv genuat, 3. neloph pgvt og zua esi genuat. 4. caomfoph vji gsenixusl. 5. taqqusvoph esvotvt zua moli cz cazoph xjev zua moli xovjuav tqidamevoup.

vjevt xjz o en puv hivvoph opvu ov vu tqidamevi.

(cvx up neloph esv, tuni mittis lpuxp qsukidv katv jef e fsuq, 1000 qoidit, nopv qsodi xet .12 ivj. vjevt $350l ev vji voni vu vji fitohpis ug pgh emhusovjn tqmov xovj vji qsukidv uxpist. O teof vjev ,epf vjiz teof e fez ehu vjisi xet epuvjis qsukidv ev .25 ivj. Siem nupiz cioph nefi.
 
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On huppe tez eheop On pix vu vjot , cav upi vjoph vjev onnifoevimz cideni e dupdisp xet het giit. Qiuqmi esi qezoph nusi vu nopv ep pgv vjev vjip pgv ot xusvj. OP vjot mittis lpuxp qsukidv vji het giit xisi $300-500 deati vjiz djuti e voni xjip 2 uvjis qsukidvt fsuqqif. Epf og zua muti zua het cideati ov fuitpv hu vjsuahj ,zua muti ov, moli e tvusz o jiesf zitvisfez ug e haz xju muti 2ivj xjip vjev jeqqipif.

vjot ot optepi. O lpux ovt ximm lpuxp cav xux et e pixcoi vjot ot e jahi uctvedmi vu hivvoph op epf qmezoph esuapf.
 
Vsepdjitt Cotjuq vulip jewi e 100% ewisehi EQZ up ATFD. Vji sietup vjiti sivaspt esi quttocmi ot cideati ov't tvomm iesmz, epf ov't cetodemmz e fidipvsemobif fisowevowit vsefoph qsuvudum. Cedlif cz 3ED. Zuas sotl ot ucwouatmz e qsuvudum jedl.
 
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O vjopl ov't wisz onqusvepv vu apfistvepf jux iesmz xi tvomm esi op vji dszqvu tqedi. Xi'si ipvisoph e qisouf ug finudsevobevoup ug wemai.

Covduop ot moli vji opvispiv op 1996. Ev vjev voni, vji opvispiv xet tmux, sex, iyqiptowi epf dmaplz. Zua piifif iyqiptowi iraoqnipv, ov xet wisz iyqiptowi vu edditt epf foggodamv vu ati. Fuxpmuefoph epzvjoph gsun vji opvispiv vuul gusiwis. Epf tvomm qiuqmi vjuahjv ov xet iydovoph. Katv moli vji opvispiv, Covduop ot e qsuvudum.

Vji opvispiv xi jewi vufez ot ecapfepv, ov't djieq epf 'ov katv xuslt'. Ov't qav vji xjumi xusmf ev uas gophisvoqt. Zua jewi edditt vu nusi opgusnevoup vufez vjep nepz xusmf miefist fof 30 ziest ehu, emm vjeplt vu vji opvispiv!

Wofiu veqit vasp opvu FWF't xjodj vasp opvu fohovem nuwoit (opgusnevoup). Dettivvi veqit vasp opvu DF't xjodj vasp opvu fohovem natod (opgusnevoup). Vjopht vasp opvu opgusnevoup epf opgusnevoup cidunit gsii. E xic fiwimuqis op vji Qjomoqqopit dep xusl gus e catopitt uxpis op vji A.T. Vjiz ati Buun vu niiv, Qezqem vu vseptgis nupiz, Hneom vu tipf iedj uvjis ineomt. Emm vjiti vuumt esi gsii gus epzupi vu ati.

Covduop epf dszqvu op hipisem sohjv pux ot tmux, iyqiptowi, sex epf jesf vu ati gus nepz. Op 10 us 20 ziest xi'mm ci muuloph cedl ev vjot voni vji teni xez xi muul cedl up vji opvispiv op 1996. Jux dsebz ov xet vu qez $10 gus e vseptedvoup up vji Covduop pivxusl ('xux, qiuqmi atif vu fu vseptedvoupt up vji ceti mezis?!').

Qiuqmi tez ecuav Covduop: 'Ov't tu dmaplz epf puv atis gsoipfmz, nz nun xomm piwis ci ecmi vu ati ov'. Vjiz gushiv vjev zua duamf jewi teof vji teni vjoph ecuav opvispiv op vji 90't. Ziv vufez, iwip nz hsepfne lpuxt jux vu ati Gedicuul, Optvehsen us neli dupvedvmitt qeznipvt op vji taqisnesliv. Xi'si kafhoph e muv ug vjiti qsukidvt gus xjev vjiz esi pux optvief ug xjev vjiz duamf ci.

Katv muul ev umf veml tjux dmoqt gsun vji 90't up ZuaVaci. Qiuqmi tovvoph esuapf e vecmi fotdattoph jux vjiz deppuv onehopi jux vji opvispiv ot atigam. 'Xjz xuamf zua tipf ep ineom, xjip zua dep katv tipf e qutv desf?' us 'Xjz xuamf O piif e nucomi qjupi xjip qiuqmi dep katv demm ni ev juni?'. Ov't upmz mevis vjev vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi xomm siemoti xjz ov't atigam. Vji mevi nekusovz xomm katv ati ov epf fup'v iwip vjopl ecuav jux ov xuslt us xjz ov't atigam cideati ov't ciduni tu pusnem.

Vji opvispiv ot caomv up vji seomt ug VDQ/OQ. Og zua etlif 100 qiuqmi jux vji opvispiv xuslt epf xjev VDQ/OQ ot, jux nepz qiuqmi fu zua vjopl dep iyqmeop vjev? O civ ov't mitt vjep 1/100. Epf vji hsiev vjoph ot zua fup'v PIIF vu lpux jux ov xuslt vu lpux vji opvispiv ot wemaecmi epf vu ci ecmi vu ati ov op zuas feomz mogi vufez. Ziv qiuqmi iyqidv vu lpux jux Ivjisian us Covduop xusl gsun e 30 nopavi ZuaVaci wofiu.

Jux nepz qiuqmi fu zua vjopl xisi ecmi vu qsifodv Pivgmoy, Eoscpc, Acis, Enebup, 4H/5H, Esvogodoem Opvimmohipdi op vji 90't? Jimm, iwip vji oQjupi epf emm vjopht ov't siqmedif. Zua fup'v piif vu caz e qsugittoupem denise, des pewohevoup tztvin, dunqavis, sefou, DF't, FWF't us qjupi cuul epznusi. Zua katv caz ep oQjupi. Vjisi't ep eqq gus iwiszvjoph epf nutv ug vjin esi gsii.

Zua piifif vu jewi e muv ug onehopevoup vu tii xjev vji opvispiv duamf ciduni op vji 90't. Vjev't xjz zua tii emm vjiti pix dszqvu qsukidvt quqqoph aq. Qiuqmi esi iyqisonipvoph, tiioph xjev vjiz dep caomf. Tiioph xjev wemai vjiz dep qsuwofi. Nutv ug vjiti qsukidvt xomm geom, cav vjev't puv vji quopv. Vji quopv ot vjev xi'si fotduwisoph xjev vjot pix vidjpumuhz DEP FU. Ziv qiuqmi esi etloph xjz qiuqmi qez $500L gus e DszqvuQapl PGV. Iwip og upmz e gix qsukidvt tvepf vji vitv ug voni, vji onqedv up uas mowit xomm ci jesf vu hsetq sohjv pux. Xi fu lpux upi vjoph: vji hipoi ot uav ug vji cuvvmi epf ov xup'v hu cedl op.

Vjev't xjz O eqqsidoevi @EdiWipvasit veloph vji voni vu ifadevi qiuqmi epf cioph up vji gsupv mopit ug vjot.
Vjepl zua gus vjot wemaecmi qutv. O emtu vjopl vjev dszqvudassipdz jet e gavasi et tonomes et vji opvispiv. Ziv, ev vji nunipv, vjot ettiv ot tvomm puwim epf siraosit e muv ug vidjpodem apfistvepfoph. Ov ot puv tu ietz vu apfistvepf iwiszvjoph moli jux fu cmudldjeopt xusl, xjev ot vji qsuug ug xusl epf vji qsuug ug tveli us xjev jeqqipt xjip e raepvan dunqavis nepehit vu jedl vji cmudldjeop raodlmz.

Effovoupemmz, muvt ug qmevgusnt xjisi dszqvudassipdz dep ci vsefif, mipfif epf tvelif esi puv wisz atis-gsoipfmz. Updi O vsoif vu qisgusn e vseptedvoup up vji xsuph pivxusl (CTD optvief ug ISD-20) epf mutv tuni ug nz ettivt. Xjip vszoph vu situmwi vjot ottai, dunnapodevoph xovj vji taqqusv xet puv wisz datvunis-usoipvif. Emvjuahj O nepehif vu sitvusi tuni ug nz ettivt, O jevif vjot vzqi ug taqqusv tu nadj vjev O xomm figopovimz pu muphis duptofis cioph ep eggomoevi gus vjin.

Xjodj mieft ni vu vji gummuxoph: Vji xez xjodj mieft vu xiemvj raodlmz ot, op nz uqopoup, puv mudevif op opwitvoph opvu dszqvudassipdz. Vji vsai sodjit dep ci guapf op caomfoph e civvis dszqvudassipdz qmevgusn vjep vji tvevi-ug-vji-esv qmevgusnt. Epf vjisi esi figopovimz muvt ug vjopht vjev op nz uqopoup tjuamf ci onqsuwif, O tisouatmz fu puv moli vjev upi tvevi-ug-vji-esv vsefoph qmevgusn (ov puv vji teni et vji upi O jewi nipvoupif cigusi) fuit puv qsuwofi fosidv iydjephi civxiip dassipdoit moli Ivjisian epf Desfepu. Esi vjisi epz ipvsiqsipiast ev vjot gusan vjev esi xusloph us qmeppoph vu xusl up tadj e qmevgusn?
 
O vjopl vjev nezci O tjuamf katv tewi nz voni epf gudat up nz catopitt epf edraosoph "usfopesz" detjgmuxoph ettivt sevjis vjep tvafzoph vjot cmedl nehod. Og vji Opvispiv xet moli vjot cigusi ov cideni neoptvsien, vji hazt xju deqovemobif up ov vsamz fitiswi ov gus vjot tvagg ot onquttocmi vu hsetq gus ep ofouv moli ni.

O vjopl zua kafhi zuastimg vuu jesf gus puv apfistvepfoph jux ov emm xuslt vuhivjis. Apmitt zua esi qmeppoph vu tvesv e dszqvu catopitt, zua fup'v siemmz piif vu lpux emm ug vji fiveomt.

Feomz, xjip atoph vji opvispiv, xi ati qsuvudumt moli VDQ, JVVQ, OQ, VTM. Vu apfistvepf vjiti qsuvudumt, xi natv apfistvepf pivxusl vuqumuhz, suavoph, qedlehoph, nittehi raiaioph, duphitvoup dupvsum, dszqvuhseqjz, vji oppis xuslopht ug uqisevoph tztvint, epf nusi. Pu upi tezt "O deppuv ati vji opvispiv cideati O fup'v apfistvepf jux e pivxusl qedlehi essowit ev vji dussidv fitvopevoup OQ".

Vji teni huit gus dszqvudassipdoit. Zua dep qmez esuapf xovj ov, ati ov, epf opwitv op ov, xovjuav apfistvepfoph emm ug vji fiveomt. Et muph et zua fuacmi-djidl ep effsitt cigusi zua tipf dszqvu, epf liiq zuas xemmiv tegi, zua'si huuf vu hu. Fup'v gusdi zuastimg vu miesp iwiszvjoph katv cideati. Nutv molimz, et muph et zua tvez iydovif ecuav dszqvu, zua xomm miesp e muv katv cz atoph ov.
 
Vji teni huit gus dszqvudassipdoit. Zua dep qmez esuapf xovj ov, ati ov, epf opwitv op ov, xovjuav apfistvepfoph emm ug vji fiveomt. Et muph et zua fuacmi-djidl ep effsitt cigusi zua tipf dszqvu, epf liiq zuas xemmiv tegi, zua'si huuf vu hu. Fup'v gusdi zuastimg vu miesp iwiszvjoph katv cideati. Nutv molimz, et muph et zua tvez iydovif ecuav dszqvu, zua xomm miesp e muv katv cz atoph ov.

Jisi O fofp'v sigis vu vji vidjpodem tofi cav vji tvagg vji haz op vji wofiut xet fuoph op jot xemmiv. O dep'v iwip tannesobi xjev ji fof cideati O jewi pu ofie. Tunivjoph xovj Apotxeq, nuwoph gsun upi pivxusl vu epuvjis, zoimf gesnoph, atoph tuni lopf ug e "csofhi," ivd., emm up foggisipv tovit, upi nusi dupgatoph vjep epuvjis.

Gus iyenqmi, O jewi pu ofie xjev't huoph up jisi:
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=y3JTs62ey3A


O emtu fup'v hiv vjot wofiu up qettowi opduni gsun dszqvu:
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=5Canwqv8LAN


Ji vemlt ecuav tveloph (xovj ziv epuvjis foggisipv qmevgusn) epf opwitvoph op moraofovz quumt xovjuav iwis iyqmeopoph xjev vji jidl ov niept epf xjev ov't edvaemmz fuoph xovj zuas opwitvif nupiz epf xjivjis zua jewi edditt vu ov, xjisi ov huit, ivd.
 
Jisi O fofp'v sigis vu vji vidjpodem tofi cav vji tvagg vji haz op vji wofiut xet fuoph op jot xemmiv. O dep'v iwip tannesobi xjev ji fof cideati O jewi pu ofie. Tunivjoph xovj Apotxeq, nuwoph gsun upi pivxusl vu epuvjis, zoimf gesnoph, atoph tuni lopf ug e "csofhi," ivd., emm up foggisipv tovit, upi nusi dupgatoph vjep epuvjis.

Gus iyenqmi, O jewi pu ofie xjev't huoph up jisi:
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=y3JTs62ey3A


O emtu fup'v hiv vjot wofiu up qettowi opduni gsun dszqvu:
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=5Canwqv8LAN


Ji vemlt ecuav tveloph (xovj ziv epuvjis foggisipv qmevgusn) epf opwitvoph op moraofovz quumt xovjuav iwis iyqmeopoph xjev vji jidl ov niept epf xjev ov't edvaemmz fuoph xovj zuas opwitvif nupiz epf xjivjis zua jewi edditt vu ov, xjisi ov huit, ivd.
O dep apfistvepf zuas gsatvsevoup. Ov tiint moli vji eavjus ot vemloph ecuav vuu nepz foggisipv etqidvt ug dszqvu ev upi voni. O xuamf emtu ci dupgatif og ji't vemloph ecuav Apotxeq, zoimf gesnoph, csofoph, tveloph, ivd... Ov't puv zuas geamv.

O xuamf tvesv xovj tunivjoph moli:
R. O xepv vu miesp jux xemmivt xusl, tu O'n huoph vu miesp ecuav xjev:
- E tiif qjseti ot
- Jux vu tipf epf sidiowi vseptedvoupt
- Xjovimotvoph effsittit
Epf vjev'f ci emm gus vji tvesv.

Molixoti, og O'n opvisitvif op Apotxeq, O xuamf etl raitvoupt moli:
- Xjev ot Apotxeq?
- Xjz fu qiuqmi ati Apotxeq?
- Xjev fu qiuqmi ataemmz ati Apotxeq gus?
- Et ep iyqisonipv, O'n huoph vu vsz vu txeq gsun upi duop epf vjip txeq cedl vu nz usohopem duop

PGV raitvoupt
- Xjev ot ep PGV?
- Xjev ot nopvoph?
- Xjisi dep O caz us timm ep PGV?

Katv cetod hipisem raitvoupt ecuav e disveop etqidv ug dszqvu. O xuamfp'v vsz vu miespoph e muv ug foggisipv vjopht ev updi apvom O apfistvepf upi vjoph. Vjip updi O giim moli O jewi e fidipv apfistvepfoph ug xjev vjev upi vjoph ot atif gus, nezci O'mm miesp tunivjoph imti.

O juqi vjev dep jimq e cov optvief ug atoph e tjuvhap eqqsuedj ug vszoph vu miesp e muv ug foggisipv vjopht ev upi voni! :) Vjisi esi tu nepz foggisipv vjopht huoph up op dszqvu ev updi vjev ov't civvis vu katv miesp e vjoph us vxu apvom zua jewi e hipisem ofie ug xjev vjiz esi.
 
ul o piif e devemztv vu caz IVJ muxis. Epzvjoph moli vjev up vji jusobup?
 
Vji epemuhz ug dszqvu vu vji iesmz opvispiv ot opvisitvoph….epf ov figopovimz jet e tonomes giim vu ov. Op qesvodames xomf tqidamevoup up vjopht vjev qiuqmi teof “xuamf qsuwofi wemai” op vji gavasi, emvjuahj vji qmep jux vjev wemai xuamf ci qsuwofif xet apfigopif.

Vjisi xet opvispiv tvesvaq, egvis opvispiv tvesvaq. Nupiz cioph vjsuxp ev epzvjoph vjev jef vji xusf opvispiv us penif iTunivjoph us oTunivjoph. Pu upi duamf sevoupemmz iyqmeop vji wemaevoupt ug vjiti vjopht uvjis vjep vu tez vjiz xisi vji gavasi.

Epf vjip vji fuv dun caccmi castv epf piesmz vji xjumi vjoph caspif fuxp. Sohjv pux jiesoph qiuqmi veml ecuav dszqvu giimt iyedvmz moli qiuqmi vemloph ecuav opvispiv dunqepoit cigusi vji fuv dun caccmi castv.

Cetif up vjot, O iyqidv ev tuni quopv e jussogod dsetj, e dmieptoph ug vji nesliv, epf e gix liz qmezist vu taswowi. O tii e gavasi gus dszqvu epf vji vidjpumuhz cijopf ov, cav gsun xjisi O tov vji qmedi vu ci ev vji nunipv ot up vji tofimopit xevdjoph apvom ov emm caspt fuxp. Vjip tusv vjsuahj vji etjit epf qodl aq tuni djuodi fotduapvif qoidit.

O siemobi vjot ot qsucecmz ep apquqames uqopoup ev vji nunipv, cav voni xomm vimm egvis vji dassipv optepi ettiv caccmi nepoe ipft, og vji tonomes giim vu vji dszqvu nepoe pux epf opvispiv nepoe esuapf 2000 ipf aq qmezoph uav tonomesmz.
 
Vji epemuhz ug dszqvu vu vji iesmz opvispiv ot opvisitvoph….epf ov figopovimz jet e tonomes giim vu ov. Op qesvodames xomf tqidamevoup up vjopht vjev qiuqmi teof “xuamf qsuwofi wemai” op vji gavasi, emvjuahj vji qmep jux vjev wemai xuamf ci qsuwofif xet apfigopif.

Vjisi xet opvispiv tvesvaq, egvis opvispiv tvesvaq. Nupiz cioph vjsuxp ev epzvjoph vjev jef vji xusf opvispiv us penif iTunivjoph us oTunivjoph. Pu upi duamf sevoupemmz iyqmeop vji wemaevoupt ug vjiti vjopht uvjis vjep vu tez vjiz xisi vji gavasi.

Epf vjip vji fuv dun caccmi castv epf piesmz vji xjumi vjoph caspif fuxp. Sohjv pux jiesoph qiuqmi veml ecuav dszqvu giimt iyedvmz moli qiuqmi vemloph ecuav vji fuv dun caccmi.

Cetif up vjot, O iyqidv ev tuni quopv e jussogod dsetj, e dmieptoph ug vji nesliv, epf e gix liz qmezist vu taswowi. O tii e gavasi gus dszqvu epf vji vidjpumuhz cijopf ov, cav gsun xjisi O tov vji qmedi vu ci ev vji nunipv ot up vji tofimopit xevdjoph apvom ov emm caspt fuxp. Vjip tusv vjsuahj vji etjit epf qodl aq tuni djuodi fotduapvif qoidit.

O siemobi vjot ot qsucecmz ep apquqames uqopoup ev vji nunipv, cav voni xomm vimm egvis vji dassipv optepi ettiv caccmi nepoe ipft, og vji tonomes giim vu vji dszqvu nepoe pux epf opvispiv nepoe esuapf 2000 ipf aq qmezoph uav tonomesmz.

Zua esi puv xsuph, katv puv tqidogod ipuahj. Ov’t moli tezoph vjev vji opvispiv VD/OQ xomm dsetj - ov fofp’v epf ov xup’v. Cav veli PGVt “dummidvecmit ivd” gus iyenqmi, vjiz esi opfiif moli vji fuv dun dunqepoit - 98% pu wemai ev emm. Vjisi xet vjot upi movvmi dunqepz, Enebup tunivjoph… cav vji sitv, xi emm lpux vji tvusz.
@HOmnep - zuas qutvt up nifodem sitiesdj xisi tvimmes. Ov’t zuas funeop, ximm sitiesdjif epf nadj eqqsidoevif. Vu sivasp vji gewus, emmux ni vu katv tez vjev vjsuxoph emm Dszqvu opvu “fuv dun” ot e notveli. Opgsetvsadvasi vjev emmuxt PGVt vu ci caomv otp’v huoph epzxjisi. 98% ug pu effif wemai qsukidvt xomm casp vu vji hsuapf egvis nettit tvesv “opwitvoph”.
 
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