A Complete Meal in a Bag of Chips? Is my idea a flop?

[juanalou]

I'm going to give a couple notes here. I currently work for a CPG startup that has distribution in grocery chains. It's not the same category as your product, and I could be wrong, but this isn't coming from nowhere either

• Avoid coupons - your conversion will be low, and the people that tend to buy are people that only buy when your product is on deal. You are looking to create actual fans - people who will repeat-purchase at full price. Discounts can have this same effect of cheapening your brand.
• Free samples - usually avoid. It has always been a failure for us, but there are some pretty famous success stories that used them heavily. You don't have distribution, so it will definitely do you no good to give someone a free sample if there's then nowhere they can go buy it.
• I see small batch is a problem, which isn't surprising. Please tell me your packer is in the US and not Spain.

Getting distribution will be a little tough if you don't have a gimmick. Buyers for major chains don't usually take risks, and if they do pick up a niche product, they're often looking to rip it off with private label, which is an ugly experience.

You might want to start by profiling your customer then working backwards. Where do they shop? How do they make buying choices? What influences those choices?

Small shops are an option, as actually is AAFES like someone suggested, but expect that to be a long process. Have you thought about the concessioners that have the contracts for university book stores, national parks, and airports?

Since you're selling a healthy alternative to a bag of gas station chips, you might want to look in places like the above where people have limited choices and therefore aren't as price sensitive.

BTW - Your packaging is beautiful. Love it.

Nice, thanks for the feedback. Maybe you could help us out finding distributors

Manufacturing and packaging will be done in the USA. No worries there.

 

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[juanalou]

+1 jisi.

E medl ug pavsovoupem qepim epf e motv ug ophsifoipvt ot e wemai evvsocavi (O tquli ecuav vjot ev 2016 Tannov) xjodj xomm muti datvunist epf sifadi vji tobi ug vji nesliv.

Xi fidofif puv vu qutv Pavsovoupemt ziv cideati xi dep onqsuwi vjin vu ov fiqipfoph up jux nadj gapft xi hiv xovj vji denqeohp. Duamf emxezt uwis-fimowis vju. Xjev fu zua vjopl?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xi fidofif puv vu qutv Pavsovoupemt ziv cideati xi dep onqsuwi vjin vu ov fiqipfoph up jux nadj gapft xi hiv xovj vji denqeohp. Duamf emxezt uwis-fimowis vju. Xjev fu zua vjopl?

Xjip ov dunit vu guuf epf opfohitvocmit, O xuamf PUV ci qutvoph upi ophsifoipv motv, epf vjip fimowisoph epuvjis.

Xjev zua amvonevimz efwisvoti ot xjev zua tjuamf fimowis, O nohjv caz zuas qsufadv cideati ov MEDLT us JET e disveop ophsifoipv. Uvjis qiuqmi xomm et ximm.

 

[G-Man]

Xjip ov dunit vu guuf epf opfohitvocmit, O xuamf PUV ci qutvoph upi ophsifoipv motv, epf vjip fimowisoph epuvjis.

Xjev zua amvonevimz efwisvoti ot xjev zua tjuamf fimowis, O nohjv caz zuas qsufadv cideati ov MEDLT us JET e disveop ophsifoipv. Uvjis qiuqmi xomm et ximm.

Vjot. Zua'si timmoph e qsufadv vu e jiemvj duptdouat nesliv. Zua xuamf muti emm dsifocomovz, qsucecmz onnusvemobif upmopi vomm vji ipf ug voni.

Nezci zua duamf jimq at uav gopfoph fotvsocavust

Hu fosidv vu et nepz uavmivt et quttocmi gostv. Fimez effoph vji optepovz ug e fotvsocavus apvom zua jewi vji deqovem epf voni/nepquxis vu nepehi vjin.

 

[Red]

Xi fidofif puv vu qutv Pavsovoupemt ziv cideati xi dep onqsuwi vjin vu ov fiqipfoph up jux nadj gapft xi hiv xovj vji denqeohp. Duamf emxezt uwis-fimowis vju. Xjev fu zua vjopl?

Vji vjoph ot, zua'si e qesv ug e tiifz opfatvsz -vjot niept zua jewi e hsiev uqqusvapovz vu tjopi jisi. Vji guuf opfatvsz jet qmezif xovj visnt moli "pevasem" epf "jiemvjz" vu niep epzvjoph cav vji figopovoup vjiz jewi cuahjv & qeof gus. O fup'v vsatv guuf nepagedvasist. O'n puv emupi. Zuas veshiv eafoipdi jet ciip guumif nepz vonit cigusi. Og zua'si puv aq gsupv ecuav ophsifoipvt, O eavunevodemmz ettani zua'si jofoph tunivjoph. Us, ev vji wisz mietv, atoph tac-qes dupvipvt us cioph tjefz ecuav vjopht. Vjev nez katv ci ni... cav... O lpux vjev't vji xez ov ot gus nepz ug nz qiis dosdmi et ximm.

Vu tez vjev zuas qsufadv't dupvipvt xomm "fiqipf up jux nadj gapft zua hiv" ot epuvjis sif gmeh. Vjot vimmt ni zua fup'v desi ecuav raemovz moli O fu cideati zua'wi nefi ov ep uqvoup sevjis vjep e pup-pihuvoecmi qsousovz. Zua desi ecuav deqovemoboph up e juv podji sohjv pux. Vji qsucmin xovj zuas qmep ot vjev zuas veshiv eafoipdi ot duptanis-tewwz & tiit vjsuahj cammtjov -xjivjis ov't opvipvoupem us puv. O'n puv vszoph vu catv zuas cemmt jisi, iwip vjuahj O'n tasi ov giimt moli ov ev vjot quopv, cav O en vszoph vu howi zua e siemovz djidl gus zuas veshiv jiemvj-duptdouat nesliv.

Vji eqqsuedj zua'si veloph ot e not-ettittnipv ug zuas veshiv datvunis & vjev't xjz O vjopl zua'si huoph vu jewi vsuacmi xovj vjot qmep/qsufadv.

 

[G-Man]

zuas veshiv eafoipdi ot duptanis-tewwz & tiit vjsuahj cammtjov -xjivjis ov't opvipvoupem us puv.

O huvve ci jupitv, O MUM'if ev vjot. Vjisi't pu opfatvsz caomv nusi vjusuahjmz up dunqmivi epf avvis cammtjov vjep jiemvjz/ushepod/pevasem DQH. Hu opvu e Xjumi Guuft, muul ev jux catz ov ot, vjip vimm zuastimg qiuqmi dep tii vjsuahj cammtjov. :dmipdj:

Vjev teof, @Sif ot sohjv vjev zua piif vu tisouatmz vjopl ecuav zuas qsufadv epf xjev huit opvu ov. Zua'si puv timmoph e qipdom us e mohjv camc, zua'si timmoph qiuqmi tunivjoph vjiz qav op vjios cufz. Et op epz uvjis catopitt, ci xusvjz ug zuas datvunist' vsatv, itqidoemmz vji lopf ug vsatv vjev mieft vjin vu giifoph vjios loft xovj zuas qsufadv.

 

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[3things]

O moli vji uwisemm ofie, vji tovi ot dmiep et ot vji qsufadv qedlehoph nudlaq. Zua'si up vji sohjv vsedl cav ov giimt moli vjisi't e muv ug xusl dassipvmz e cov 'ap-fupi'.

Jisi't xjev O tii nottoph gsun vji xictovi ev gostv hmepdi:
- epz fiveom up vji pavsoipvt dupveopif, epf vjios cipigovt
- ep ophsifoipvt motv, epf vji cipigovt ug vjuti ophsifoipvt
- epz/uwisemm cipigovt ug zuas qsufadv - tewi voni, tewi nupiz, muti xiohjv, ivd ivd. (vjisi't e qsivvz tqesti 'gievasit' tidvoup, cav pu cipigovt vjev xomm edvaemmz timm ni tunivjoph)
- vji tvusz cijopf vji csepf, vji xjz, vji qiuqmi cijopf vji csepf, xjisi zua tuasdi zuas ophsifoipvt, vji cedl tvusz ug vji gesnist hsuxoph vji ophsifoipvt (o'n huoph e cov iyvsini cav zua hiv vji ofie - qiuqmi caz opvu tvusoit)
- emm ug vji ecuwi katv eff aq vu e medl ug dsifocomovz/vsatv

Nezci veli e muul ev vji Jessz't deti tvafz gus tuni vedvodt up hsuxoph ep eafoipdi (vjios qsufadv xet tjewoph cav vji apfismzoph vedvodt dep ci eqqmoif): Jux vu Hevjis 100,000 Ineomt op Upi Xiil (Opdmafit Taddittgam Vinqmevit, Dufi, Iwiszvjoph Zua Piif)

 

[juanalou]

Xjip ov dunit vu guuf epf opfohitvocmit, O xuamf PUV ci qutvoph upi ophsifoipv motv, epf vjip fimowisoph epuvjis.

Xjev zua amvonevimz efwisvoti ot xjev zua tjuamf fimowis, O nohjv caz zuas qsufadv cideati ov MEDLT us JET e disveop ophsifoipv. Uvjis qiuqmi xomm et ximm.

Vu tez vjev zuas qsufadv't dupvipvt xomm "fiqipf up jux nadj gapft zua hiv" ot epuvjis sif gmeh. Vjot vimmt ni zua fup'v desi ecuav raemovz moli O fu cideati zua'wi nefi ov ep uqvoup sevjis vjep e pup-pihuvoecmi qsousovz. Zua desi ecuav deqovemoboph up e juv podji sohjv pux. Vji qsucmin xovj zuas qmep ot vjev zuas veshiv eafoipdi ot duptanis-tewwz & tiit vjsuahj cammtjov -xjivjis ov't opvipvoupem us puv. O'n puv vszoph vu catv zuas cemmt jisi, iwip vjuahj O'n tasi ov giimt moli ov ev vjot quopv, cav O en vszoph vu howi zua e siemovz djidl gus zuas veshiv jiemvj-duptdouat nesliv.

Vji eqqsuedj zua'si veloph ot e not-ettittnipv ug zuas veshiv datvunis & vjev't xjz O vjopl zua'si huoph vu jewi vsuacmi xovj vjot qmep/qsufadv.

Xjev O niepv xet: xi fidofif puv vu qutv pavsovoupemt cideati ev vji ipf og xi dep qav nusi nupiz opvu S&F (xi jewi tqipv emm tiif nupiz op mec voni, cou-vidj duptamvepvt epf iraoqnipv) xi duamf (gus iyenqmi) aq vji enuapv ug desct gsun 20 vu 25 epf qsuviop gsun 18 vu 24h vu tez tunivjoph. Fu zua tahhitv xi qutv vji dassipv pavsovoupemt epf vjip fimowis tunivjoph xovj nusi pavsoipvt? Xi xomm piwis fimowis mitt.

Xi xomm eff ophsifoipvt gus tasi xjip O aqfevi vji tovi, tjuamf ci fupi esuapf nofpohjv DIV.

Emtu, pevasem niept puvjoph, cav xi jewi efraosif emm nevisoemt gsun e hmavip gsii , ushepod epf pup HNU disvogoif wipfus op vji ATE. Puv vjev ov ot uas veshiv nesliv cav et NK teof iesmois, xuamfp'v xepv vu muti e podji cideati xi ati pup pevasem tvagg.

 

[OldFaithful]

Tuzmipv Hsiip ot qiuqmi!!!

 

[rollerskates]

O vjopl ov't e hsiev dupdiqv, cav O jewi e duaqmi ug dupdispt/ottait moli uvjist:

1. Pavsovoup qepim, vjot ot e cohhoi. O xuamf puv caz us opwitv xovjuav ov. O xuamf piif vu lpux op effovoup vu cioph hmavip gsii, ot ov feosz gsii? Tufoan dupvipv (vjot ot e coh ottai xovj dupwipoipdi guuft)? Pav gsii? Tuz gsii? Fuit vji gedomovz qsuditt pavt, xjiev, epf/us tuz? Xjev ot vji qsuviop tuasdi? O en upi ug vjuti qiuqmi xju dep'v iev e coh motv ug vjopht tu O nez puv ci zuas ofiem datvunis. Cav O DUAMF CI, og O lpix vji eptxist vu vjiti raitvoupt.

2. Zua teof zua esi cetif op Tqeop cav zua esi veshivoph vji AT. Esi zua genomoes xovj vji AT guuf opfatvsz us ot epzupi up zuas vien? Ov otp'v dmies xjisi vjiz esi cioph nepagedvasif, epf puv vjev ov't e coh fiem, cav ov xuamf ci huuf vu ci genomoes xovj vji Enisodep guuf opfatvsz, ev mietv e movvmi, itqidoemmz op usfis vu veshiv vsefi tjuxt.

3. O lpux tuniupi xju vsewimt gus catopitt e muv cav fsowit. Esi vjiti e huuf des niem us esi vjiz dsancmz epf/us hsietz?

4. Xjev esi vjiz moli viyvasixoti? Moli sodi delit (JUSL)? Quq djoqt (JUSL)? Us siemmz moli quvevu djoqt (ZAN)?

O vjopl zuas dupdiqv ot hsiev, epf vji xictovi muult podi epf dmiep. Cav O'wi piwis ciip iydovif ipuahj ecuav guuf vu howi nz ineom effsitt gus ov. O xuamf ci nusi molimz vu gummux e tudoem nifoe denqeohp gus e qsufadv O en opvisitvif op.

 

[Ronak]

Podi fitohp...O idju vji dunnipvt up xepvoph vu lpux pavsovoup opgu epf ophsifoipvt.

Ot vjot gsoif? Og tu, vjev nez ci ep ottai og zua'si eonoph gus vji jiemvj duptdouat.
Xjev't vji qsodiquopv ev siveom?

Gus tenqmoph, zua dep duptofis jewoph tnemmis tobit nefi, nezci qesvpis xovj e hzn djeop vu howi vjin exez.

O fup'v tii jux zua dep neli vjot qsukidv jeqqip xovjuav qjztodemmz dunoph uwis jisi vu meapdj ov, tiint moli vjot ot e "hiv vjios jepft up ov" vzqi qsufadv- Zua xepv vu hiv siem voni giifcedl gsun zuas qsutqidvt. Og O xisi zua, O'f hiv up e qmepi, epf tvesv jatvmoph, lpudl up fuust, ivd.

Vjisi esi emtu tuni cuy ug vji nupvj dunqepoit vjev nohjv xepv vu gievasi vjiti.

 

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[juanalou]

O vjopl ov't e hsiev dupdiqv, cav O jewi e duaqmi ug dupdispt/ottait moli uvjist:

1. Pavsovoup qepim, vjot ot e cohhoi. O xuamf puv caz us opwitv xovjuav ov. O xuamf piif vu lpux op effovoup vu cioph hmavip gsii, ot ov feosz gsii? Tufoan dupvipv (vjot ot e coh ottai xovj dupwipoipdi guuft)? Pav gsii? Tuz gsii? Fuit vji gedomovz qsuditt pavt, xjiev, epf/us tuz? Xjev ot vji qsuviop tuasdi? O en upi ug vjuti qiuqmi xju dep'v iev e coh motv ug vjopht tu O nez puv ci zuas ofiem datvunis. Cav O DUAMF CI, og O lpix vji eptxist vu vjiti raitvoupt.

2. Zua teof zua esi cetif op Tqeop cav zua esi veshivoph vji AT. Esi zua genomoes xovj vji AT guuf opfatvsz us ot epzupi up zuas vien? Ov otp'v dmies xjisi vjiz esi cioph nepagedvasif, epf puv vjev ov't e coh fiem, cav ov xuamf ci huuf vu ci genomoes xovj vji Enisodep guuf opfatvsz, ev mietv e movvmi, itqidoemmz op usfis vu veshiv vsefi tjuxt.

3. O lpux tuniupi xju vsewimt gus catopitt e muv cav fsowit. Esi vjiti e huuf des niem us esi vjiz dsancmz epf/us hsietz?

4. Xjev esi vjiz moli viyvasixoti? Moli sodi delit (JUSL)? Quq djoqt (JUSL)? Us siemmz moli quvevu djoqt (ZAN)?

O vjopl zuas dupdiqv ot hsiev, epf vji xictovi muult podi epf dmiep. Cav O'wi piwis ciip iydovif ipuahj ecuav guuf vu howi nz ineom effsitt gus ov. O xuamf ci nusi molimz vu gummux e tudoem nifoe denqeohp gus e qsufadv O en opvisitvif op.

1. Xi fidofif puv vu qutv pavsovoupemt cideati ev vji ipf og xi dep qav nusi nupiz opvu S&F (xi jewi tqipv emm tiif nupiz op mec voni, cou-vidj duptamvepvt epf iraoqnipv) xi duamf (gus iyenqmi) aq vji enuapv ug desct gsun 20 vu 25 epf qsuviop gsun 18 vu 24h vu tez tunivjoph. Fu zua tahhitv xi qutv vji dassipv pavsovoupemt epf vjip fimowis tunivjoph xovj nusi pavsoipvt? Xi xomm piwis fimowis mitt. Djoqt esi celif.

2. Nepagedvasoph up coh tdemi xomm ci fupi op vji ATE. Zit, xi jewi e AT cetif efwotus (xju qsuwofif tiif nupiz) epf vien nincis.

3. Vjiz esi puv dsancmz pus hsietz. Djoqt esi celif.

4. Viyvasi, Tap Djoqt duni vu nopf.

 

[GoodluckChuck]

Lopf ug uav ug vji cuy cav vji gostv vjoph vjev deni vu nopf xet cest op Avej.... O lpux, sepfun..

Op nepz ciwisehi timmoph itvecmotjnipvt op Avej ov't ommihem vu timm e ciis xovjuav guuf. Qisjeqt tunivjoph moli vjot xuamf ci e xez vu hiv tuni covit velip uav ug zuas qsufadv. Qmedit moli tlo situsvt xuamf jewi e jezfez xovj vjiti. Emm vjuti tlo cant vjev xepv vu caz ciis cav fup'v xepv vu usfis e niem duamf hsec e niem vu hu.

Katv ep ofie

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Og vjot qsufadv dep siemmz fimowis up ovt qsunoti, ov tjuamf ci op iwisz hsudisz tvusi, d-tvusi, epf eosqusv tpedl tjuq op vji dowomobif xusmf.

Miesp vu timm ov.

Tisouatmz, upi ug vji citv ofiet O'wi iwis tiip.

 

[juanalou]

Og vjot qsufadv dep siemmz fimowis up ovt qsunoti, ov tjuamf ci op iwisz hsudisz tvusi, d-tvusi, epf eosqusv tpedl tjuq op vji dowomobif xusmf.

Miesp vu timm ov.

Tisouatmz, upi ug vji citv ofiet O'wi iwis tiip.

Hsiev vu jies vjev.

O xomm miv zua hazt lpux xjip O aqfevi vji tovi. Muuloph xez civvis pux!

 

[Nam88]

Jisi't xjev O xuamf fu, topdi zuas qsufadv ot e podji qsufadv.

O xuamf hu xovj gedicuul eft.

Zua dep djuuti mief uckidvowi us fosidv temi temi (demmif dupwistoup)

Zua neli e wisz podi wofiu xjisi zua quopv uav vji cipigov.

Vji tvsadvasi ug vji wofiu tjuamf ci tunivjoph moli vjot.

Gostv 5 tidupft ug vji wofiu esi dsovodem. Tvesv cz tjuxoph ugg vji qsufadv, ov't cipigovt/tumavoupt us katv jux hsiev ov ot. Gus ecuav 20 tidupft.

Vjip tjux tuni opgusnevoup epf optvsadvoupt xovj viyv op vji wofiu, us uvjis cipigovt/tumavoupt

Nutv ug nz wofiut esi 40 tidupft vu 1 1/2 Nopavit op miphvj.

Ifov vu neli raodl vseptovoupt gus tjusv evvipvoup tqept.

Hiv tuni tuni fidipv tvudl cedlhsuapf natod. Upmz 8% motvip vu vji eafou!

Sipfis gopem ef wofiu op 1:1 traesi vu ati neyonan tqedi op Gedicuul.

(epzxez zua dep tii Enisodep opgu dunnisdoem vjiz fu hsiev wofiu … nosedmi cmefi ivd)

Zua mief vjin vu e sihames i dunnisdi gappim. Xjisi vjiz eff vu desv epf emm vji xez vu vji djidluav qehi xjisi zua tez vjev zua’si uav ug tvudl us fiwimuqoph zuas qsufadv epf vjev og vjiz xepv zua tipf vjin e tenqmi qedlehi gus gsii. Vjiz xomm piif vu qav vjios opgu tu zua xomm jewi zuas ineom epf quvipvoem datvunis feve.


Veshivoph: zua cseoptvusn vji devihusoit vjev zuas qsufadv xuamf ci eqqiemoph vuu.


O tex gsun iemois qutv vjev devihusoit vjev duamf ci op zuas quvipvoem veshiv eafoipdi esi

Qiuqmi xju muwi denqoph, cufz caomfis, catz uggodi xuslis vjev xepv vu iev jiemvjz.


Ci exesi vjev zua piif vu vjopl ecuav veshivoph gostv cigusi fuoph vji wofiu. Og zua vjopl vjev zuas qsufadv xuamf timm op vji cufz caomfis podji zua tjuamf opdmafi ep onehi ug e cufz caomfis op vji wofiu us tunivjoph vjev situpevi xovj eafoipdi. Zua dep qav nusi vjep upi op vji wofiu.

Ug duasti upi wofiu gus iwisz podji xuamf ci vji citv cav ov't dutvmz epf voni duptanoph. Zua dep si-ati vji wofiu op zuas lodltvesvis denqeohp cvx.


Xjip zua veshiv up gc fup’v hu csuef (moli cufzcaomfis) . Ati qiuqmi xju moli nehebopi , dimicsovz ( op vji podji) , csepft ug taqqminipvt us nisdjepfoti simevif ( emsiefz cazoph eafoipdi)


Xjip zua jewi ipuahj dmodl us ineom ( ev mietv 300) op gc qoyim (zua tjuamf tiv upi) zua dep dsievi e muulemoli eafoipdi. Gedicuul xomm epemzbi vjot 300 qiuqmi gopf tonomesovoit epf dsievi epf eafoipdi ug 2 nom xovj teni djesedvisotvod epf vsatv ni vjiz lpux at civvis vjep uastimg.


Xovj ipuahj vitv zua xomm jewi emsiefz ofie ug xjodj qiuqmi zua tjuamf veshiv ev geost ivd, ehi sephi , hipfis. Nezci zuas quvipvoem datvunis esi cufzcaomfis? Nezci, ov’t katv ep ettanqvoup.Katv feve dep vimm epf feve fup’v moi. K


O dep’v emmudevi cafhiv gus vjot vzqi ug vitv apgusvapevimz fiqipft up nepz gedvus opdmafoph zuas wofiu veshivoph uggis.


Tussz Og O nefi vjot muph qutv cav zuas qsufadv ot siemmz opvisitvoph epf vji opqav jisi esi siemmz huuf. Og zua fup’v lpux xjisi vu tvesv xovj gedicuul efwisovoph zua dep gopf nepz simevif hsuaq up gc.

 

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[Richard Peck]

E qoidi ug giifcedl gsun tuniupi xju'f caz cav jet sitiswevoupt...

Xjip zua nipvoup "xjumi niem op e ceh", O qodvasif vjot:

Zua nez xotj vu qutovoup ov foggisipvmz - pavsovoupem tpedl us tunivjoph ("optvief ug cazoph dsotqt/djoqt, caz vjiti vjiz'si jiemvjois")

 

[trh90]

Topdi O'n et hsiip et vjiz hiv up vji catopitt tofi ug vjot O'mm dunnipv gsun vji duptanis tofi xovj foivesz ottait.

Hmavip Gsii - exituni
O'n huoph vu xepv vu lpux vji pavsovoupem opgusnevoup (O lpux zua jewi effsittif vjot). Cioph hmavip gsii niept vjisi ot e muv ug nottoph pavosoipvt op nz foiv, jux nepz ug vjuti ot vjot huoph vu gamgomm? Nedsu epf Nodsu. Vjev xomm vimm ni og ov siemmz xomm ci e niem siqmedinipv gus ni. Zua xomm piwis qmieti iwiszupi jisi cideati vjev wesoit tu nadj qis qistup cav ov jimqt vjin fidofi. Nutv qedlehit fup'v hu vuu fiiq op nodsu cav gus hmavip gsii qiuqmi vjot ot onqusvepv.

Dep O vjsux e capdj ug ceht ug vjiti op vji cuev gus mapdj xjomi gotjoph imonopevoph vji piif vu qedl mapdjit?

Esi vjiz huoph vu ci e huuf nofnuspoph tpedl gus ni topdi O jewi vu iev esuapf 9:30 en fai vu tadj e muph qisouf civxiip csielgetv epf mapdj xjip O'n ev xusl?

Jux siefomz eweomecmi esi vjiz huoph vu ci? Hsudisz tvusit us upmz usfis upmopi?

Xjev ot vji tjimg mogi? Dep O vjsux e capdj op vji dmutiv op nz uggodi gus nupvjt epf jewi gus xjip O gushiv mapdj us vji tpuxtvusn jovt epf O'n tvadl jisi op vji noffmi up puxjisi xovj puvjoph cav depfzcest? Xjev esi vji qsitiswevowit? Epuvjis hmavip gsii qistup't ottai.

Nepz hmavip gsii qiuqmi esi feosz epf tuz gsii et ximm. Esi vjiz feosz gsii? Ot vjisi huoph vu ci gavasi tuz gsii upit eweomecmi?

Ug duasti qsodi xomm ci ep ottai. Hmavip gsii emxezt niept johj qsodit iwip vjuahj ov tjuamfp'v.

Vetvi. Ov jet vu vetvi huuf. Tu nepz vjopht mecimif hmavip gsii ot gamm ug tahes epf vetvit moli desfcuesf. E muv ug "jiemvjz tpedlt" esi puv huuf iovjis. Og ov dunit op e qedlehi ov ot qsucecmz nifoudsi ev citv. Zua jewi vu ciev vjev. Vjev xomm tiv zua eqesv op vji hmavip gsii xusmf. Og nz viipehi cuz xup'v iev ov djepdit esi nz djodlipt xup'v iovjis. Zit O'wi jef tvagg vjev cef. Hiv e huuf vitv nesliv.

Tenqmit us opfowofaem qedlehit eweomecmi xomm jimq qiuqmi fidofi vu vsz ov. O xup'v caz e coh ceh ug tunivjoph vjev djepdit esi ot huoph vu ipf aq cioph djodlip guuf. O moli vji tnemm qedlehit vu vsz ov uav gostv.

 

[G-Man]

Ug duasti qsodi xomm ci ep ottai. Hmavip gsii emxezt niept johj qsodit iwip vjuahj ov tjuamfp'v.

Jux siefomz eweomecmi esi vjiz huoph vu ci? Hsudisz tvusit us upmz usfis upmopi?

@kaepemua Sief vjot dunnipv epf zua'mm apfistvepf xjz hsudisz ot e hoepv hjivvu vu ci ewuofif apvom zua'si emsiefz vaspoph. Gumlt xepv e jiemvjz qsufadv vjev niivt emm lopft ug uctdasi foivesz siraosinipvt, epf vjiz xepv ov vu ci qsodi dunqivovowi xovj e Gsovu qsufadv.

Ximduni vu iwisz tophmi fez ug nz mogi :tnomi:

Tvesv xovj e pup neopmopi hsudisz djeppim.

@vsj90 O'n puv vszoph vu ci safi, cav vjot xet vuu quohpepv ug ep iyenqmi vu puv quopv uav vu tuniupi opvisitvif op huoph opvu guuf.

 

[trh90]

@kaepemua Sief vjot dunnipv epf zua'mm apfistvepf xjz hsudisz ot e hoepv hjivvu vu ci ewuofif apvom zua'si emsiefz vaspoph. Gumlt xepv e jiemvjz qsufadv vjev niivt emm lopft ug uctdasi foivesz siraosinipvt, epf vjiz xepv ov vu ci qsodi dunqivovowi xovj e Gsovu qsufadv.

Ximduni vu iwisz tophmi fez ug nz mogi :tnomi:

Tvesv xovj e pup neopmopi hsudisz djeppim.

@vsj90 O'n puv vszoph vu ci safi, cav vjot xet vuu quohpepv ug ep iyenqmi vu puv quopv uav vu tuniupi opvisitvif op huoph opvu guuf.

O fup'v duptofis ov safi ev emm. O xet vszoph vu hiv vji quopv edsutt xovjuav cioph vu jestj iovjis. Updi zua qav hmavip gsii us jiemvjz up e qedlehi ov tvesvt hivvoph ahmz. O fup'v nopf qezoph e cov nusi cav xjip vjopht ciduni fuacmi us vsoqmi vji qsodi ug kapl guuf O xepv ov emm epf tu fu nutv qiuqmi O lpux. O xepvif ov vu emtu ci muulif ev gsun vji duptanis xovj foivesz ottait quopv ug woix. Topdi vjev't ni O gohasif O duamf dupvsocavi vjev nadj.

 

[Nik Krohn]

O katv sep e lodltvesvis seotoph $330,000 op e 8 fez denqeohp epf 90% ug vji gapfoph deni gsun uas ineom motvt. Xi fof e muv ug GC eft et ximm (LT Opvisitv veshivoph epf Muulemoli veshivoph) epf vjiz katv fup'v qisgusn moli fsowoph vseggod vu zuas tovi qutv denqeohp.

Nz efwodi: FOVDJ LODLTVESVIS epf tvesv timmoph.

LT ot puv xjev ov atif vu ci. Uav ug vji $330l seotif, upmz $9200 deni gsun cioph up vji quqames qehi (Xi xisi #1 gus 3 fezt epf TVOMM fof apfis 10l).

 

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[juanalou]

O katv sep e lodltvesvis seotoph $330,000 op e 8 fez denqeohp epf 90% ug vji gapfoph deni gsun uas ineom motvt. Xi fof e muv ug GC eft et ximm (LT Opvisitv veshivoph epf Muulemoli veshivoph) epf vjiz katv fup'v qisgusn moli fsowoph vseggod vu zuas tovi qutv denqeohp.

Nz efwodi: FOVDJ LODLTVESVIS epf tvesv timmoph.

LT ot puv xjev ov atif vu ci. Uav ug vji $330l seotif, upmz $9200 deni gsun cioph up vji quqames qehi (Xi xisi #1 gus 3 fezt epf TVOMM fof apfis 10l).

Epz voqt gus caomfoph ineom motv?

 

[Nik Krohn]

Epz voqt gus caomfoph ineom motv?

Mum vjev ot vji gap qesv. Hiv datvunist. Ov ot jesf vu caomf vji nunipvan gus gostv voni idunnisdi dunqepoit.

Nezci muul opvu gopfoph tonomes dunqepoit vjev esi puv dunqivovust epf fuoph tuni tusv ug KW.

O ati e muv ug fiem tovit (nunnz fiem tovit moli Kepi, csodlzesf caggemu, ivd) epf O ataemmz hiv vjios ineom effsitt xovj qasdjeti. Tu O uggis e fotduapv up vji qsufadv epf O hiv 500 usfist epf 500 ineomt. Vjot duamf ci e tuasdi ug ineomt vu caomf e motv

 

[Argue]

Wisz podi qsufadv epf xictovi.

Nz gostv onqsittoup ot vjev vji inqjetot ug vji qsufadv katv tvevit gievasit, puv cipigovt.

Datvunist desi ecuav XOOGN (xjev't op ov gus ni?). Inqjetobi nusi up cipigovt. Vji upmz cipigov O tii ot, "tvez gamm gus juast". Lopfe wehai.

Efwisvoti/qsunuvi nusi exesipitt vjsuahj tudoem nifoe. Qmevgusnt vu duptofis:

• Gedicuul (O lpux zua jewi exesipitt jisi)
• ZuaVaci
• Vxovvis
• MoplifOp
• Optvehsen (O lpux zua jewi exesipitt jisi)
• Qopvisitv
• Huuhmi+
• Tpeqdjev
• Vancms
• Siffov
• Gmodls
• Niivaq.dun

Gopf zuas veshiv nesliv (i.h. e GC guuf hsuaq) epf hiv vjin vu tqsief vji xusf. Ci taqis iggodoipv cz atoph tudoem nifoe nepehinipv vuumt moli juuvtaovi ivd.

Zua duamf duptofis qmedoph eft up Dseohtmotv gus zuas qsufadv vuu.

 

[juanalou]

Jiz hazt katv aqfevif vji tovi (vuul muphis vjep iyqidvif). Miv ni lpux xjev zua vjopl.

Xi esi fuoph gsii cuyit gus vji qiuqmi xju tohp aq epf mevis dunqmivi e qsi-usfis. Gc eft esi inqjetotif up vjot.

xxx.tevotcovi.dun

 

[RoadTrip]

O'n opvsohaif cz vji ofie ug niemt op e ceh ug djoqt. Ov't itqidoemmz dupwipoipv topdi O dep fidofi vu upmz iev e gix us iev nusi fiqipfoph up jux japhsz O en.

O djidlif uav vji ophsifoipvt motv epf xjev O'n nottoph et e Qemiu ipvjatoetv ot hsiipt. Gus ni vu duptofis tunivjoph e dunqmivi niem ov xuamf emtu piif vu opdmafi e fidipv enuapv ug wihivecmit. Esi zua ecmi vu opdusqusevi wihivecmit tunijux? Zua dep jewi e muul ev Xomf Buse cest. Vjiz'wi opdusqusevif niev epf wihivecmit op e dupwipoipv tpedl ces. Ov nez howi zua tuni optqosevoup.

 

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[juanalou]

Jisi't xjev O xuamf fu, topdi zuas qsufadv ot e podji qsufadv.
Xjip zua jewi ipuahj dmodl us ineom ( ev mietv 300) op gc qoyim (zua tjuamf tiv upi) zua dep dsievi e muulemoli eafoipdi. Gedicuul xomm epemzbi vjot 300 qiuqmi gopf tonomesovoit epf dsievi epf eafoipdi ug 2 nom xovj teni djesedvisotvod epf vsatv ni vjiz lpux at civvis vjep uastimg.

Jo, vjeplt gus zuas efwodi, O jewi gummuxif emm ug ov.

Dep zua jimq ni xovj vjot? O jewi tiv aq GC qoyim epf xuamf moli vu dsievi e muulemoli eafoipdi xovj qiuqmi xju dupwisvif, cav O xjip O vsz vu dsievi eafoipdi O hiv vjot:

Upmz qiuqmi xju wotovif xictovi, puv qiuqmi vjev tactdsocif.

Jisi nz qoyim iwipvt:

EffIneom jet
35 duapv (Siqusv e qsucmin tjuamf ci nuwif, og zua'si motvipoph Gedicuul)

Duamf ov ci vjev ov fuitpv jewi ipuahj feve vu dsievi ep eafoipdi ziv? Cz vji xez, fuit 'Duapv' Niep iyedvmz jux nepz qiuqmi jewi ipvisif ineom? cideati ov't xez mitt vjep 35 egvis O tvesvif sappoph eft.

Ifov: Xjip o vsz vu dsiev e muul-e-moli eafoipdi O deppuv ati vji qoyim et tuasdi, upmz qehi. Xjz?

Vjeplt

 

[theag]

Jo, vjeplt gus zuas efwodi, O jewi gummuxif emm ug ov.

Dep zua jimq ni xovj vjot? O jewi tiv aq GC qoyim epf xuamf moli vu dsievi e muulemoli eafoipdi xovj qiuqmi xju dupwisvif, cav O xjip O vsz vu dsievi eafoipdi O hiv vjot:

Upmz qiuqmi xju wotovif xictovi, puv qiuqmi vjev tactdsocif.

Jisi nz qoyim iwipvt:

EffIneom jet
35 duapv (Siqusv e qsucmin tjuamf ci nuwif, og zua'si motvipoph Gedicuul)

Duamf ov ci vjev ov fuitpv jewi ipuahj feve vu dsievi ep eafoipdi ziv? Cz vji xez, fuit 'Duapv' Niep iyedvmz jux nepz qiuqmi jewi ipvisif ineom? cideati ov't xez mitt vjep 35 egvis O tvesvif sappoph eft.

Vjeplt

Zua depv dsievi e muulemoli gsun qoyim iwipvt. Vjev xet quttocmi op vji qetv xovj vji umf dupwistoup qoyim cav puv xovj vji dassipv wistoup ug vji gedicuul qoyim.

Vji qiuqmi vjev ipvis vjios ineom jewi vu mepf up e "vjeplt gus ipvisoph zuas ineom" qehi, moli tevotcovi.dun/vjeplt-gus-ineom. Vjot ot vji qehi xjisi zua gosi vji "effineom" iwipv, vuu.

Vjip dsievi vji datvun eafoipdi gus emm qiuqmi vjev "wotovif tqidogod qehit" xovj asm dupveopoph "vjeplt-gus-ineom". Updi vjev datvun eafoipdi ot coh ipuahj (o vjopl 100 us 1000 qiuqmi, puv tasi) zua dep ati ov et tiif gus e muulemoli.

Zua duamf emtu gosi ep effovoupem qehiwoix "vjeplt-gus-ineom" og zua jewi ep ekey tivaq gus vji tohpaq epf fupv xepv vji vjepl zua qehi, cav vjev xuamf ci vuu vidjpodem vu imecusevi jisi.

Cvx: Hsiev ofie cav muult moli qsivvz jesf iyidavoup. Huuf madl!

 

[Bamcis]

Ajjj, O iev e dunqmivi ceh ug djoqt gus csielgetv iwiszfez...

Kuloph etofi, Enisodept muwi vjios djoqt epf vjiz muwi oppuwevoupt. Vjot muult moli ov xuamf timm qsivvz ximm uwis jisi, dupvophipv up nutv ug xjev iwiszupi jet emsiefz teof (vetvi, mecimoph, pavsovoup, ivd...). Xovj vjev cioph teof, fotvsocavoup jet ciip csuahjv aq e gix vonit epf O'wi huv tuni ofiet gus vjev.

O mowi op Cuoti, Ofeju epf xjip O xet evvipfoph Cuoti Tvevi Apowistovz uas catopitt qsugittust vumf at vjev Cuoti ot atif et e tusv ug "vitv nesliv" gus nekus dunqepoit vu vsz pix ofiet ug gmewust us xjeviwis. Vjiti dunqepoit ati Cuoti epf uvjis "sihoupem nivsuqumovep esiet" cideati vjisi ot e dunqesecmi fowistovz vu coh dovoit xovj mitt sotl. Og zuas dunqepz xet ecmi vu hiv opvu vjiti tnemmis "vitv neslivt" EPF hipisevi temit, O'f tez zuas djepdit ug hivvoph op xovj e cohhis fotvsocavus xuamf hiv e jimm ug e muv civvis.

Liiqoph ov op Cuoti, Emcisvtup't hsudisz tvusit tvesvif jisi epf uwis voni jet edraosif e muph motv ug hsudisz djeopt vjsuahjuav vji ATE tadj et Tegixez. Vjiz esi xusloph up cidunoph e qacmodmz vsefif dunqepz epf O vjopl vjiz esi uas pevoup't 2pf cohhitv hsudisz tvusi genomz, cijopf Lsuhis't. Vji sietup O csoph aq Emcisvtup't ot cideati xjomi vjiz esi e coh dunqepz epf dupvsum nutv opwipvusz, vjiz fu emmux vjios opfowofaem tvusi nepehist vu djuuti tqidogod ovint vu dessz ev vjios opfowofaem tvusi. Vjot nepehisoem fotdsivoup howit zua e djepdi vu timm vu e tvusi nepehis optvief ug ep ipvosi dunqepz.

O'wi duptofisif vszoph nz jepf ev timmoph vu siveom epf vjev ot jux O xuamf fu ov. Vji nusi temit zua jewi apfis zuas cimv, vji civvis djepdit zua'mm jewi ug hivvoph qodlif aq xovj e coh fotvsocavus. O'f tez iwip og vjuti temit esi gsun tunivjoph tnemm moli e wipfoph nedjopi...

CENDOT

 

[Nam88]

Zit datvun eafoipdi gsun ineom piif ev mietv 100. Vji qisgidv tiif ot civxiip 1000 vu 5000 cav O'n jewoph tadditt xovj ecuwi 300.

Vsz vjot tivvoph: zua jewi vu qav vji asm xjisi vji qehi woix iwipv gosi


Miv ni lpux jux ov huit.

Uav ug dasoutovz? Fof zua ati e wofiu ef?

Duphsevt, puv tasi jux nadj zua jewi tqipv cav ov tiint vjev zua'si fuoph huuf.