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Very disappointed at this year’s Chinese New Year.

No, I’m not disappointed by the lockdowns, limited movement (only 2 pax a table at restaurants, no interstate travel).

I’m more disappointed at my family.

Without giving away too many details, I’ve had to see my own parents talk shit over fighting housing committee politics vs moving out, my mum and sibling making a f*cked up ruckus over a simple thing as just setting up a Messenger call for the cross-family reunion and their blatant refusal to talk things over and make amends.

Not the first time it happened on CNY.

The last few CNYs were filled with F*cking arguments as well...breakups, emotional outbursts, pushing under the carpet...

And guess who suffers lots from it all?
Me.

As much as I see the call to ‘move away from toxic family (even parents and siblings)’ arise from every corner, I decided to do what I could to keep family together.

Tried talking to each family member individually to get their point of view.

Tried getting everyone together to share their thoughts and solutions.

Reflected, admitted my own share of fault (if any) and said my sorries.

And then urged everyone to do the same and to seek peace and openness.

But all they want to do is to sweep shit under carpets, go along with their own selfish agendas (eg sleep, toxic mindsets, money, ego and a whole lot other crap), blame, fight, mind games, lip service...

And this comes from my own family...
Parents, siblings and even a few ‘closer’ aunts and uncles.

Just now I couldn’t take it anymore after trying in vain to get people to talk, and just stormed off to my room.
And I just wonder...why celebrate CNY if you don’t know how to F*cking cherish and put aside your agendas or selfish shit in your brains?!


As I hastily wiped my silent tears, I had some suicidal thoughts..feeling so alone even in a place I should be calling home.

Then I remembered Lex talking about ‘get enough matches to burn bridges’.

I thought, ‘What else do I have? What resources can I work with?’

I’m going to look for a room to rent out far away from family...I may just have to find other family-figures who will appreciate me better.

I already have a Men’s Fellowship group in Kuala Lumpur (I only see them on Zoom calls these days). When the lockdowns lift end of this month, I’ll go all in to help out the men. At least they have more respect and gratitude for me.

I’ll also need to have more financial resources stocked up since I’ll be on my own...so I have to cut down more experimental projects like my stock trading, which I started last year December...which I feel very sad about because I did quite OK, and even the hard work analyzing stocks and TA is fun.

Which reminds me of this thread:

This made me sadder, as I realize a rising trend of not just friends...entire families being destroyed as perfectly good folks are forced to get far away from shitty loved ones.

I can understand saving your sanity by getting away from toxic, uncooperative people....but how about your roots, people you stayed with since you were born? How much cutting-off will continue until one is left without an identity?

I guess that’s up to one’s tolerance and emotional bank account.

As families weaken and people go their own ways, let’s say that’s the beginning of the end.
Truly...I am very disappointed with CNY, my family and the general attitude of family.
 
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Very disappointed at this year’s Chinese New Year.

No, I’m not disappointed by the lockdowns, limited movement (only 2 pax a table at restaurants, no interstate travel).

I’m more disappointed at my family.

Without giving away too many details, I’ve had to see my own parents talk shit over fighting housing committee politics vs moving out, my mum and sibling making a f*cked up ruckus over a simple thing as just setting up a Messenger call for the cross-family reunion and their blatant refusal to talk things over and make amends.

Not the first time it happened on CNY.

The last few CNYs were filled with f*cking arguments as well...breakups, emotional outbursts, pushing under the carpet...

And guess who suffers lots from it all?
Me.

As much as I see the call to ‘move away from toxic family (even parents and siblings)’ arise from every corner, I decided to do what I could to keep family together.

Tried talking to each family member individually to get their point of view.

Tried getting everyone together to share their thoughts and solutions.

Reflected, admitted my own share of fault (if any) and said my sorries.

And then urged everyone to do the same and to seek peace and openness.

But all they want to do is to sweep shit under carpets, go along with their own selfish agendas (eg sleep, toxic mindsets, money, ego and a whole lot other crap), blame, fight, mind games, lip service...

And this comes from my own family...
Parents, siblings and even a few ‘closer’ aunts and uncles.

Just now I couldn’t take it anymore after trying in vain to get people to talk, and just stormed off to my room.
And I just wonder...why celebrate CNY if you don’t know how to f*cking cherish and put aside your agendas or selfish shit in your brains?!


As I hastily wiped my silent tears, I had some suicidal thoughts..feeling so alone even in a place I should be calling home.

Then I remembered Lex talking about ‘get enough matches to burn bridges’.

I thought, ‘What else do I have? What resources can I work with?’

I’m going to look for a room to rent out far away from family...I may just have to find other family-figures who will appreciate me better.

I already have a Men’s Fellowship group in Kuala Lumpur (I only see them on Zoom calls these days). When the lockdowns lift end of this month, I’ll go all in to help out the men. At least they have more respect and gratitude for me.

I’ll also need to have more financial resources stocked up since I’ll be on my own...so I have to cut down more experimental projects like my stock trading, which I started last year December...which I feel very sad about because I did quite OK, and even the hard work analyzing stocks and TA is fun.

Which reminds me of this thread:

This made me sadder, as I realize a rising trend of not just friends...entire families being destroyed as perfectly good folks are forced to get far away from shitty loved ones.

I can understand saving your sanity by getting away from toxic, uncooperative people....but how about your roots, people you stayed with since you were born? How much cutting-off will continue until one is left without an identity?

I guess that’s up to one’s tolerance and emotional bank account.

As families weaken and people go their own ways, let’s say that’s the beginning of the end.
Truly...I am very disappointed with CNY, my family and the general attitude of family.
Hang in there man. You sound like a very mature and responsible person for trying to work this out and make things better.

Getting your own place could be good, but I wouldn’t make it too far away. Just enough to have your own space to relax, but close enough to be near your family and see them whenever you can. It’s okay if you have to stay there for financial reasons. Just remember, there is always a way. Keep showing support to the people you care about and make sure you are taking care of yourself too.
 

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Very disappointed at this year’s Chinese New Year.

No, I’m not disappointed by the lockdowns, limited movement (only 2 pax a table at restaurants, no interstate travel).

I’m more disappointed at my family.

Without giving away too many details, I’ve had to see my own parents talk shit over fighting housing committee politics vs moving out, my mum and sibling making a f*cked up ruckus over a simple thing as just setting up a Messenger call for the cross-family reunion and their blatant refusal to talk things over and make amends.

Not the first time it happened on CNY.

The last few CNYs were filled with f*cking arguments as well...breakups, emotional outbursts, pushing under the carpet...

And guess who suffers lots from it all?
Me.

As much as I see the call to ‘move away from toxic family (even parents and siblings)’ arise from every corner, I decided to do what I could to keep family together.

Tried talking to each family member individually to get their point of view.

Tried getting everyone together to share their thoughts and solutions.

Reflected, admitted my own share of fault (if any) and said my sorries.

And then urged everyone to do the same and to seek peace and openness.

But all they want to do is to sweep shit under carpets, go along with their own selfish agendas (eg sleep, toxic mindsets, money, ego and a whole lot other crap), blame, fight, mind games, lip service...

And this comes from my own family...
Parents, siblings and even a few ‘closer’ aunts and uncles.

Just now I couldn’t take it anymore after trying in vain to get people to talk, and just stormed off to my room.
And I just wonder...why celebrate CNY if you don’t know how to f*cking cherish and put aside your agendas or selfish shit in your brains?!


As I hastily wiped my silent tears, I had some suicidal thoughts..feeling so alone even in a place I should be calling home.

Then I remembered Lex talking about ‘get enough matches to burn bridges’.

I thought, ‘What else do I have? What resources can I work with?’

I’m going to look for a room to rent out far away from family...I may just have to find other family-figures who will appreciate me better.

I already have a Men’s Fellowship group in Kuala Lumpur (I only see them on Zoom calls these days). When the lockdowns lift end of this month, I’ll go all in to help out the men. At least they have more respect and gratitude for me.

I’ll also need to have more financial resources stocked up since I’ll be on my own...so I have to cut down more experimental projects like my stock trading, which I started last year December...which I feel very sad about because I did quite OK, and even the hard work analyzing stocks and TA is fun.

Which reminds me of this thread:

This made me sadder, as I realize a rising trend of not just friends...entire families being destroyed as perfectly good folks are forced to get far away from shitty loved ones.

I can understand saving your sanity by getting away from toxic, uncooperative people....but how about your roots, people you stayed with since you were born? How much cutting-off will continue until one is left without an identity?

I guess that’s up to one’s tolerance and emotional bank account.

As families weaken and people go their own ways, let’s say that’s the beginning of the end.
Truly...I am very disappointed with CNY, my family and the general attitude of family.
Im sorry that you’re going through this crap.. it sucks. I’m sorry that you have to grieve the loss of ppl whom you love and have such deep loyalty to. I’m sorry that they are too blind to see the noble person they have in you.

I’m not sad that you have the strength to grow beyond who they are. I’m happy for you. I’m happy that you’re escaping. I’m currently reading an adaptation of Pilgrims Progress with my kids. It’s called Little Pilgrims Progress by Helen L Taylor. I got it on kindle.

If you’re not familiar with the story.. you might like it. It’s about a dude who decides to leave a bad place to find a better place. He meets ppl who try to get him to come back to the City of Destruction but he doesn’t listen. He keeps going.

Anyhoo.. my relationship with my sisters and brother disintegrated in anger and bitterness after my parents died. While they were alive they never really fostered openness or forgiveness. It was never great.

Despite that I have forged ahead and made my own “family” of sorts through strong friendships and relationships with ppl near and far.

I guess I’m writing because I know it sucks to feel so alone but if you just keep going you ARE going to find your tribe. There are people who will need you, desperately, and they will admire you beyond words for the kindness you are going to be able to offer them.

You’re going to meet someone a lot like you, prolly about ten years from now and he or she will thank God for you.. for the person who you are.

It is a new year, for you. You’ve done everything you can. It’s ok to grieve that old family.. then to move on and find the new one. Hugs.
 
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Very disappointed at this year’s Chinese New Year.

No, I’m not disappointed by the lockdowns, limited movement (only 2 pax a table at restaurants, no interstate travel).

I’m more disappointed at my family.

Without giving away too many details, I’ve had to see my own parents talk shit over fighting housing committee politics vs moving out, my mum and sibling making a f*cked up ruckus over a simple thing as just setting up a Messenger call for the cross-family reunion and their blatant refusal to talk things over and make amends.

Not the first time it happened on CNY.

The last few CNYs were filled with f*cking arguments as well...breakups, emotional outbursts, pushing under the carpet...

And guess who suffers lots from it all?
Me.

As much as I see the call to ‘move away from toxic family (even parents and siblings)’ arise from every corner, I decided to do what I could to keep family together.

Tried talking to each family member individually to get their point of view.

Tried getting everyone together to share their thoughts and solutions.

Reflected, admitted my own share of fault (if any) and said my sorries.

And then urged everyone to do the same and to seek peace and openness.

But all they want to do is to sweep shit under carpets, go along with their own selfish agendas (eg sleep, toxic mindsets, money, ego and a whole lot other crap), blame, fight, mind games, lip service...

And this comes from my own family...
Parents, siblings and even a few ‘closer’ aunts and uncles.

Just now I couldn’t take it anymore after trying in vain to get people to talk, and just stormed off to my room.
And I just wonder...why celebrate CNY if you don’t know how to f*cking cherish and put aside your agendas or selfish shit in your brains?!


As I hastily wiped my silent tears, I had some suicidal thoughts..feeling so alone even in a place I should be calling home.

Then I remembered Lex talking about ‘get enough matches to burn bridges’.

I thought, ‘What else do I have? What resources can I work with?’

I’m going to look for a room to rent out far away from family...I may just have to find other family-figures who will appreciate me better.

I already have a Men’s Fellowship group in Kuala Lumpur (I only see them on Zoom calls these days). When the lockdowns lift end of this month, I’ll go all in to help out the men. At least they have more respect and gratitude for me.

I’ll also need to have more financial resources stocked up since I’ll be on my own...so I have to cut down more experimental projects like my stock trading, which I started last year December...which I feel very sad about because I did quite OK, and even the hard work analyzing stocks and TA is fun.

Which reminds me of this thread:

This made me sadder, as I realize a rising trend of not just friends...entire families being destroyed as perfectly good folks are forced to get far away from shitty loved ones.

I can understand saving your sanity by getting away from toxic, uncooperative people....but how about your roots, people you stayed with since you were born? How much cutting-off will continue until one is left without an identity?

I guess that’s up to one’s tolerance and emotional bank account.

As families weaken and people go their own ways, let’s say that’s the beginning of the end.
Truly...I am very disappointed with CNY, my family and the general attitude of family.


I am so sorry you're having to deal with that.
One approach that might work for you:

Remember you have only one job here, & that job is to love them.

Obviously the best way you can do that is what you've already done, & try & facilitate some healing - for that is surely the best outcome - but if everyone's rejecting those attempts, then they're just not ready for them. You can't change a mind that isn't open to it. So what now? Your job is still the same - love them.

Accept them. Love them where they're at.
If someone's in cooking in the kitchen and complaining about someone, then love them. You don't have to engage in the behaviour - getting defensive on someones behalf or joining in the bitterness, or whatever - you can take a step back but still make someone feel heard, & you can still offer to chop the vegetables.

But here's the thing about putting the emphasis on loving them. You don't worry about them loving you back. That's not your job to worry about. People are gonna do what they're gonna do, & it's not your job to control that. You focus on your actions. You just make sure you love them, and you make sure you love yourself. If you need space, you make it (by moving out, or whatever you need). If you need support, you go find someone or some people who are offering that. Look after yourself. Look after your family in whatever way you can manage that they are receptive to. Take control of your own actions, & sad as it may be, you have to let other people be in control of their own. They may be bad choices, but they're theirs to make. Release your expectations there. It's difficult - but remember that doing so is an act of loving yourself, & even of loving them. And those are the only jobs you need to focus on.
 

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Hang in there man. You sound like a very mature and responsible person for trying to work this out and make things better.

Getting your own place could be good, but I wouldn’t make it too far away. Just enough to have your own space to relax, but close enough to be near your family and see them whenever you can. It’s okay if you have to stay there for financial reasons. Just remember, there is always a way. Keep showing support to the people you care about and make sure you are taking care of yourself too.
Thank you for your recommendation.

It’s one thing to move out for space or growth, but it’s another thing if one simply moves and cuts contact out of pure bitterness and revenge.

I’ve lost count of the times I have heard the same story from other parents, uncles...kids move up after messing shit up, demands no contact and then descend into a wild orgy of drinking, shut-in behavior and PUA culture.



Im sorry that you’re going through this crap.. it sucks. I’m sorry that you have to grieve the loss of ppl whom you love and have such deep loyalty to. I’m sorry that they are too blind to see the noble person they have in you.

I’m not sad that you have the strength to grow beyond who they are. I’m happy for you. I’m happy that you’re escaping. I’m currently reading an adaptation of Pilgrims Progress with my kids. It’s called Little Pilgrims Progress by Helen L Taylor. I got it on kindle.

If you’re not familiar with the story.. you might like it. It’s about a dude who decides to leave a bad place to find a better place. He meets ppl who try to get him to come back to the City of Destruction but he doesn’t listen. He keeps going.

Anyhoo.. my relationship with my sisters and brother disintegrated in anger and bitterness after my parents died. While they were alive they never really fostered openness or forgiveness. It was never great.

Despite that I have forged ahead and made my own “family” of sorts through strong friendships and relationships with ppl near and far.

I guess I’m writing because I know it sucks to feel so alone but if you just keep going you ARE going to find your tribe. There are people who will need you, desperately, and they will admire you beyond words for the kindness you are going to be able to offer them.

You’re going to meet someone a lot like you, prolly about ten years from now and he or she will thank God for you.. for the person who you are.

It is a new year, for you. You’ve done everything you can. It’s ok to grieve that old family.. then to move on and find the new one. Hugs.
Thank you.
Yes, the Pilgrim’s Progress is a great read on the faith and tenacity. Already read it.

I have yet to read the Second Part (where the main character’s partner proceeds on the journey herself)


I am so sorry you're having to deal with that.
One approach that might work for you:

Remember you have only one job here, & that job is to love them.

Obviously the best way you can do that is what you've already done, & try & facilitate some healing - for that is surely the best outcome - but if everyone's rejecting those attempts, then they're just not ready for them. You can't change a mind that isn't open to it. So what now? Your job is still the same - love them.

Accept them. Love them where they're at.
If someone's in cooking in the kitchen and complaining about someone, then love them. You don't have to engage in the behaviour - getting defensive on someones behalf or joining in the bitterness, or whatever - you can take a step back but still make someone feel heard, & you can still offer to chop the vegetables.

But here's the thing about putting the emphasis on loving them. You don't worry about them loving you back. That's not your job to worry about. People are gonna do what they're gonna do, & it's not your job to control that. You focus on your actions. You just make sure you love them, and you make sure you love yourself. If you need space, you make it (by moving out, or whatever you need). If you need support, you go find someone or some people who are offering that. Look after yourself. Look after your family in whatever way you can manage that they are receptive to. Take control of your own actions, & sad as it may be, you have to let other people be in control of their own. They may be bad choices, but they're theirs to make. Release your expectations there. It's difficult - but remember that doing so is an act of loving yourself, & even of loving them. And those are the only jobs you need to focus on.
Thank you.
Something to remind myself over and over.
 
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One time in college I was walking home from class and there was a man who appeared to be homeless who walked up to me and said something to the effect of “please, I’m so hungry, can you spare anything?”

I happened to have a to go box of food I just bought from the dining hall and was going to have for dinner. I hadn’t touched it at all. I decided he needed it more than I did so I handed it to him.

He seemed surprised, he thanked me excessively, opened the box, and said this:

“Is this pork? I don’t eat pork.”

I still care about people obviously, but that was a very big moment for me growing up. He insisted that I give him cash instead.

I’m curious what y’all think about this story. It doesn’t have a perfect message or anything, because this really happened to me.
 
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One time in college I was walking home from class and there was a man who appeared to be homeless who walked up to me and said something to the effect of “please, I’m so hungry, can you spare anything?”

I happened to have a to go box of food I just bought from the dining hall and was going to have for dinner. I hadn’t touched it at all. I decided he needed it more than I did so I handed it to him.

He seemed surprised, he thanked me excessively, opened the box, and said this:

“Is this pork? I don’t eat pork.”

I still care about people obviously, but that was a very big moment for me growing up. He insisted that I give him cash instead.

I’m curious what y’all think about this story. It doesn’t have a perfect message or anything, because this really happened to me.

I give generously to people I know can’t affect their situation. Reservedly to people I know that can.

It really really sucks, but sometimes, even with our best intentions, people just simply can’t be helped.

This is why kids are a big one for me. Being born to someone decent is total luck. My resources can, without question, help improve their situation. So I have an orphan charity I donate to.
 
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One time in college I was walking home from class and there was a man who appeared to be homeless who walked up to me and said something to the effect of “please, I’m so hungry, can you spare anything?”

I happened to have a to go box of food I just bought from the dining hall and was going to have for dinner. I hadn’t touched it at all. I decided he needed it more than I did so I handed it to him.

He seemed surprised, he thanked me excessively, opened the box, and said this:

“Is this pork? I don’t eat pork.”

I still care about people obviously, but that was a very big moment for me growing up. He insisted that I give him cash instead.

I’m curious what y’all think about this story. It doesn’t have a perfect message or anything, because this really happened to me.

I've given up giving to grown humans and their causes, I only donate to animal causes now and the St. Jude Children's hospital because, as Kak mentioned, children are innocent in their plights, as are animals. (Part of that animal "charity" involves me being vegan.)

I have story after story of human grifting. The most recent is the guy who begs on a Scottsdale street corner. I noticed him on three different occasions, and on each, he had a brand new pair of shoes on each time I saw him, and not the cheap shit, we're talking NIKES and Adidas.

I'm sure his Mercedes was parked in some nearby parking lot.

I know I shouldn't judge, but I've been burned too many times.

I'm not funding someone's upscale lifestyle that they refuse to work for.


Remember you have only one job here, & that job is to love them.

Obviously the best way you can do that is what you've already done, & try & facilitate some healing - for that is surely the best outcome - but if everyone's rejecting those attempts, then they're just not ready for them. You can't change a mind that isn't open to it. So what now? Your job is still the same - love them.

I know, but when it comes to grifters, thiefs, and scammers, I find it difficult to channel my inner Dalai Lama.
 
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I've given up giving to grown humans and their causes, I only donate to animal causes now and the St. Jude Children's hospital because, as Kak mentioned, children are innocent in their plights, as are animals. (Part of that animal "charity" involves me being vegan.)

I have story after story of human grifting. The most recent is the guy who begs on a Scottsdale street corner. I noticed him on three different occasions, and on each, he had a brand new pair of shoes on each time I saw him, and not the cheap shit, we're talking NIKES and Adidas.

I'm sure his Mercedes was parked in some nearby parking lot.

I know I shouldn't judge, but I've been burned too many times.

I'm not funding someone's upscale lifestyle that they refuse to work for.




I know, but when it comes to grifters, thiefs, and scammers, I find it difficult to channel my inner Dalai Lama.

100% agree. Also I totally respect you being vegan. I wanted to add - that box had a lot more than pork in it, lol. Sweet potatoes, green beans, even an apple.

I’m usually skeptical of what a person might really be after. But when someone says they want food, I would never give them money, just food.
 

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So I’m learning about Bayes Rule. Here’s the master list of stuff to learn too if you’re interested. Highlight of this particular rabbit hole today was THIS site which predicts things like, how many ppl will be vaxinated.


The Theory That Would Not Die by Sharon McGrayne - this is FREAKING FASCINATING HISTORY BOOK for ppl who looooooove learning about shit that changed the world that normal ppl don’t care about.

Super-forecasting The Art and Science of Predicting by Philip Tetlock

Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don’t Have All The Facts by Annie Duke

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When I was in college, my $450/month apartment was near a grocery store everyone called "the ghetto HEB" instead of a regular HEB. Anyway, that was where I shopped.

This was a common occurrence...

I watched as people in front of me in line had bad a$$ steaks, lobster, organic produce, whatever... Total comes to over $100 and they whip out their "Lonestar Card," which is food stamps.

Then I check out my modest $20-30 basket of stuff, with my own money... As I walked to my beat to shit old Nissan, I'd often see them loading their $100+ haul of tax dollars "groceries" into recent Cadillacs, Lexus and Mercedes.

To top it off, after working closely with government, I now have no doubt the government paid double or even triple that to "administer" those steaks and produce.
 
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I know, but when it comes to grifters, thiefs, and scammers, I find it difficult to channel my inner Dalai Lama.

Oh there is a line for sure, beyond which the "loving yourself" part of the equation prevents you from interacting much or at all. Unless they change of course, then the equation changes. But yes, sometimes "loving them" means just letting them go live their life (whilst extracting yourself from it).

Forgiveness is as much for the person doing the forgiving - if not more so - than the person being forgiven. Don't let 'em live rent free in your head! Draw your line, gently release them "into the wild", & move on with your life. I've done it. It's not always easy, but it is sometimes necessary.

Hopefully @ZF Lee 's family is not at that point yet!
 

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I know, but when it comes to grifters, thiefs, and scammers, I find it difficult to channel my inner Dalai Lama.

When it comes to people like that, I find it much easier to channel my inner Genghis Khan than my inner Dalai Lama
 
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I watched as people in front of me in line had bad a$$ steaks, lobster, organic produce, whatever... Total comes to over $100 and they whip out their "Lonestar Card," which is food stamps.
Same happened to me. I remember asking my gf, now wife, when I got back to the apartment how someone can get food stamps and drive a Cadillac when I’m sitting here working part time in college and drive an old truck.
 
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Same happened to me. I remember asking my gf, now wife, when I got back to the apartment how someone can get food stamps and drive a Cadillac when I’m sitting here working part time in college and drive an old truck.

I have an aunt who has been married 7 times and lives on welfare (and begs my grandma to buy her things), and every time she gets something her top concern is that she doesn’t get too much to where she loses her welfare...
 

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I have an aunt who has been married 7 times and lives on welfare (and begs my grandma to buy her things), and every time she gets something her top concern is that she doesn’t get too much to where she loses her welfare...
That’s the confusing part, where is this taught or learned? You are not like this, so I could assume your parents are not as well. Where is the disconnect between your Aunt and your parents that made them go two different ways?
 
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That’s the confusing part, where is this taught or learned? You are not like this, so I could assume your parents are not as well. Where is the disconnect between your Aunt and your parents that made them go two different ways?
It's an age old question. While my mom was starting her career, my aunt was doing drugs. Mom has only one marriage (to my dad - I am lucky) and the aunt has had 7+. Their parents were divorced, though.

Two people have an alcoholic father, one learns to be an alcoholic, the other learns to reject alcoholism.

People are different. Choices do matter.
 

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I'd often see them loading their $100+ haul of tax dollars "groceries" in to recent Cadillacs, Lexus' and Mercedes.

Thanks to the corrupt partnership of politicians and bankers.:rofl:

Another reason why money should be decentralized. As of right now, the back door is wide open as the average citizen gets to pay for everything in the form of higher taxes and inflation. All without consent or representation.

What is happening in this country right now really makes you question our money.

One thing I’ve notice is a lot of “old timer” professional investors and traders are now into crypto.
 

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The amount of stupid money-chasing in this world is seriously disturbing.

I have to delete 20 affiliate marketing meditation spammers here daily, as if these fools think they are doing something new and novel. They're no better than MLM spammers.

Sad, sad, sad...
 
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Now this is a clever way to avoid being instafamous.

Does this not count as a public performance of the song? If they were doing that, they'd be just as liable for licensing fees as they putting the song on Instagram...
 
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Does this not count as a public performance of the song? If they were doing that, they'd be just as liable for licensing fees as they putting the song on Instagram...
The police aren’t distributing the material, the “activists” are.
 

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The police aren’t distributing the material, the “activists” are.

If the police are playing a copyrighted song in public, that counts as a "performance" and appropriate licences must be obtained.
 

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