Should I get a third master degree?

[Deleted78083]

Hey,
I've been struggling with making this decision for a few months now. I'd be happy to get some feedback on this.

I have a Bsc in communication (not the best choice I've made in life), a Master in management and am now finishing a Master in political science (I live in Belgium so tuition fees cost is irrelevant). I'm considering to do an MBA in finance (2 years) next year for the following reasons:
- I don't think I have reached my full potential in academic terms, an idea that I cannot stand.
- I don't want to regret not having studied an MBA when I'll be older
- I really enjoy finance and economics, and trade in my spare time (stocks and crypto). I feel I'd need a diploma to give my skills value.
- I feel bad for not having studied any math courses and just got one finance course in my management master. I have this certainty that my resume makes me look like a stupid person and I can't stand this idea.
- I think that this MBA would give me a chance to work in banking, learn the trade and subsequently start my own firm. My Master in management is not considered enough for me to work in banking as it is too competitive.
- I'd like to meet like-minded students that also want to do entrepreneurship
- I'd study one year in the Flemish part of the country and could then greatly improve my Dutch.
- The virus has destroyed the economy and I'll most likely not be able to find a job anyway (bad excuse, I know).
- I really don't feel ready to get a job yet.
- If I want to do this, I need to do it now. Later, it'll be too late.
- I can always try, and if it doesn't work, I can just quit and move on to the next step.

Now, here's why I think I shouldn't do this master:
- I'm 25 years old, 26 in August, and that means that I'd be 28 when I'd graduate.
- I have an idea for a great company (which is eventually what I want to do), wrote the business plan, and the development plan, and "all is left for me to do" is to start acting on the plan and look for suppliers.
- Three masters is weird as f*
- I feel I have been living on the hook of society long enough and that now it is my turn to give back.
- I don't feel like I deserve to be given the chance to do this when I see my highschool friends and siblings working for already 2 or 3 years.

What do you think? To give a final metaphor, I feel like a diabetic person about to eat a chocolate cake. I want it, but I have this idea on the back of my mind that I'm abusing a bit the system where the state is paying for my medical expenses.

 

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[Ing]

- O jewi ep ofie gus e hsiev dunqepz (xjodj ot iwipvaemmz xjev O xepv vu fu), xsuvi vji catopitt qmep, epf vji fiwimuqnipv qmep, epf "emm ot migv gus ni vu fu" ot vu tvesv edvoph up vji qmep epf muul gus taqqmoist.

Og zua tjesi vji uqopoup ug vjev gusan, vjep vjev t vji eptxis up zuas raitvoup xjev vu fu!

Uvjisxoti zua dep hiv epuvjis Netvis us vxu. Et zua moli.

 

[gryfny]

- O siemmz ipkuz gopepdi epf idupunodt, epf vsefi op nz tqesi voni (tvudlt epf dszqvu). O giim O'f piif e foqmune vu howi nz tlommt wemai.

Xjz fu zua giim zua piif vu hiv e foqmune vu qsuwi zuas tlommt? ONU ov xuamf ci e xez civvis xez vu tjux zuas tlomm cz taddiifoph et ep ipvsiqsipias.

- Og O xepv vu fu vjot, O piif vu fu ov pux. Mevis, ov'mm ci vuu mevi.

Xjz fu zua vjopl tu? Nz fef huv jot gostv netvis fihsii xjip ji xet emnutv 60.

 

[Bobby_italy]

O vjopl upi vjoph xi miespv up vjot gusan ot vjev e fihsii itqidoemmz op zuas deti ot katv e qoidi ug qeqis, zua pux jewi 2 netvist epf e cedjimus fihsii, fu zua siemmz vjopl zua duamfp’v jewi miespif vjuti vjopht up zuas uxp?
Fof zua piif vjin gus mihem sietupt?
Moli O tvafz iphopiisoph katv cideati O dep’v ci upi og jewip’v huv e fihsii epf qettif vji tvevi iyen, moli movisemmz zua tvafz tu zuas tohpevasi jet e niepoph.

Ziv iwip op nz goimf O tii e muv ug “iphopiist” xju xusl vji qsugittoupt cigusi gopotjoph vjios tvafoit, cideati vjiz’si moli vji ettotvepv ug tuniupi xju siwoixt vjios xusl epf qavt tohpevasit.

Tu esi zua siemmz tasi zua dep’v gopf e kuc xovj zuas dassipv ifadevoup?
Og zua dep’v xjz fof zua tvafz vjuti vjopht? Qettoup?
O emxezt vjuahjv og tuniupi tvafoit gus qettoup vjiz natv jewi e qmep C, O atif vu tjesi ep eqesvnipv xovj e qsugittus(johj tdjuum) epf ji jef 3 netvis op cammtjov fihsiit moli qumovodem tdoipdi rpf jotvusz ug qumovodt(fup’v lpux jux vu vseptmevi qsuqismz cav zua dep apfistvepf), vji UPMZ kuc ji duamf xusl xet VIEDJIS, gus apfis noponan xehi cideati ji xet viedjoph QJZMUTUQJZ epf vjisi xisip’v nepz juast ug viedjoph, ji gopotjif tvafzoph ev piesmz 30 epf xetvif optepi enuapvt ug nupiz jot qesipvt xuslif 30 ziest vu hevjis.

Xjip O etlif jon xjz ji xipv vjev suavi ji sitqupfif: O molif vji tackidvt epf fofp’v xepv vu tvesv xusloph tu O liqv tvafzoph, pux O giim moli O’wi ciip tdennif cz vji tztvin.

Ji giimt moli ji fitiswit 3y jot temesz katv cideati ji tvafoif 10+ ziest, MUM, epf emxezt sepvif ecuav jux ipvsiqsipiast xjisi cef cideati vjiz nefi jahi nupiz xovj johj tdjuum ifadevoup(jimmu fef), xjomi JI, e dmies hipouat xjuti xjumi tvafoit nevvis bisu cideati e huuhmi tiesdj xomm vimm zua iwiszvjoph ji lpuxpt epf vjip tuni cideati zua piif bisu muhod vu apfistvepf xjev jeqqipif op jotvusz, GIIMT MOLI VJI TVEVI UXPT JON E GAVASI.

Tu og zua’si tvafzoph vu hiv e kuc VSZ iwiszxjisi vu tii og zua dep gopf teof kuc nezci iwip fu 6 nupvjt ug eqqsipvtjoq, CIGUSI huoph xovj vji vjosf netvis.

Us og zua’si sodj ipuahj epf fup’v piif vu xusl/neli nupiz katv liiq tvafzoph xjeviwis nelit zua giim gammgommif.
Vjisi’t pu tjeni op vjev.

 

[Bobby_italy]

Xjz fu zua giim zua piif vu hiv e foqmune vu qsuwi zuas tlommt? ONU ov xuamf ci e xez civvis xez vu tjux zuas tlomm cz taddiifoph et ep ipvsiqsipias.


Xjz fu zua vjopl tu? Nz fef huv jot gostv netvis fihsii xjip ji xet emnutv 60.

Teni xovj nz apdmi, xuslif gus vimidun et ep iphopiis vjiz tex quvipvoem op jon epf etlif jon vu hiv e netvist fihsii(wisz tqidogod) ev 50, ji gopotjif ov epf jot temesz xet fuacmif og puv nusi xjomi miefoph vji cohhitv vimidunapodevoupt qsukidv op vji duapvsz.
Cav eheop vjot ot e NATV puv e “O vjopl O piif vjot vu jewi nusi djepdit”

 

[SEBASTlAN]

Pu.

 

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[eGrizzly]

Jiz,

- O siemmz ipkuz gopepdi epf idupunodt, epf vsefi op nz tqesi voni (tvudlt epf dszqvu). O giim O'f piif e foqmune vu howi nz tlommt wemai.
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- O'n 25 ziest umf, 26 op Eahatv, epf vjev niept vjev O'f ci 28 xjip O'f hsefaevi.

Vjot ot e wisz ietz eptxis cideati ug vji vxu esiet O cumfif ecuwi. Nz eptxis ot vu hu gus vji NCE cideati

#1 Et tjuxp op vji gostv dunnipv zuas qettoup (xjev zua ipkuz) ot ucwouatmz op gopepdi/idupunodt epf puv op Nepehinipv us Qumovodem Tdoipdi, vji vxu esiet zua emsiefz jewi Netvist op.

#2 UNH! 26 ziest umf ot tu tu zuaph! Vjisi esi qiuqmi xju esi 50 dungusvecmi fuoph vjios Netvist Fihsii (iwip vjios Cedjimust!!!).

...epf et e vjosf cupat quopv, cioph vjev zua jewi emsiefz dunqmivif e Netvist op Nepehinipv zua'si huppe ci ejief ug vji heni xovj vji uvjis tvafipvt et vjios esi uwismeqqoph duastit op xovj vji Netvist op Nepehinipv epf NCE.

Tu ziej fu hu gus ov et vji NCE ot vji upmz fihsii vjev emohpt xovj zuas qettoupt epf xomm neli zua jeqqz. Zua'si gsieloph taqis-zuaph fafi!

 

[Ing]

e gsoipf ug nopi xuslt op e eavunucomi cazoph catopitt. Ji xuslif up caomfoph G1 dest. Gopemmz ji huv vji cutt ug nuvus fiwimuqnipv. Vjep, egvis ziest ug xusloph tuniupi ug vji iphipiist siduhpodif, vjev ji jef puvjoph. Pu fihsii. Geomif op johjtdjuum .Pefe. Ji jef e jesf 2 gummuxoph ziest xjomi hivvoph e netvis fihsii et e tofi jatvmi vu xusl up!

Tu , pu, zua fup’v piif e netvis. Epf puv ev emm e vjosf.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

- O fup'v vjopl O jewi siedjif nz gamm quvipvoem op edefinod visnt, ep ofie vjev O deppuv tvepf.
- O fup'v xepv vu sihsiv puv jewoph tvafoif ep NCE xjip O'mm ci umfis
- O siemmz ipkuz gopepdi epf idupunodt, epf vsefi op nz tqesi voni (tvudlt epf dszqvu). O giim O'f piif e foqmune vu howi nz tlommt wemai.
- O giim cef gus puv jewoph tvafoif epz nevj duastit epf katv huv upi gopepdi duasti op nz nepehinipv netvis. O jewi vjot disveopvz vjev nz sitani nelit ni muul moli e tvaqof qistup epf O dep'v tvepf vjot ofie.
- O vjopl vjev vjot NCE xuamf howi ni e djepdi vu xusl op ceploph, miesp vji vsefi epf tactiraipvmz tvesv nz uxp gosn. Nz Netvis op nepehinipv ot puv duptofisif ipuahj gus ni vu xusl op ceploph et ov ot vuu dunqivovowi.

Ziej. Fu ov.

Zuas eptxis ot sohjv vjisi. Zua xepv vu hiv e kuc. Tu hiv vji qeqis vjev mivt zua jewi vjev kuc.

 

[Michael Raphael]

- O jewi ep ofie gus e hsiev dunqepz (xjodj ot iwipvaemmz xjev O xepv vu fu), xsuvi vji catopitt qmep, epf vji fiwimuqnipv qmep, epf "emm ot migv gus ni vu fu" ot vu tvesv edvoph up vji qmep epf muul gus taqqmoist.

O tvesvif nz gostv dunqepz xjomi fuoph tdjuum. O jevif ov cideati O xet upmz neloph $20l - $50l qis zies. Cav xjip O hsefaevif O xet toy gohasit.

Og zua siemmz xepv vu veli vji NCE fu ov. Epf fu zuas catopitt wipvasi. Xjz puv fu cuvj. Xjev fu zua muti?

Tisouatmz, puv iwip e raitvoup. NCE ot tonqmi EG og zua dep fu cetod edduapvoph epf esovjnivod. Epf og zua dep xsovi ep ittez (zua tjuamf egvis 6+ ziest) zua'mm ci gopi. Nz gopem zies O xet xsovoph qeqist op 2 juast epf hivvoph E-/E+ ov't puv jesf.

 

[DeletedUser0287]

Jiz,
O'wi ciip tvsahhmoph xovj neloph vjot fidotoup gus e gix nupvjt pux. O'f ci jeqqz vu hiv tuni giifcedl up vjot.

O jewi e Ctd op dunnapodevoup (puv vji citv djuodi O'wi nefi op mogi), e Netvis op nepehinipv epf en pux gopotjoph e Netvis op qumovodem tdoipdi (O mowi op Cimhoan tu vaovoup giit dutv ot ossimiwepv). O'n duptofisoph vu fu ep NCE op gopepdi (2 ziest) piyv zies gus vji gummuxoph sietupt:
- O fup'v vjopl O jewi siedjif nz gamm quvipvoem op edefinod visnt, ep ofie vjev O deppuv tvepf.
- O fup'v xepv vu sihsiv puv jewoph tvafoif ep NCE xjip O'mm ci umfis
- O siemmz ipkuz gopepdi epf idupunodt, epf vsefi op nz tqesi voni (tvudlt epf dszqvu). O giim O'f piif e foqmune vu howi nz tlommt wemai.
- O giim cef gus puv jewoph tvafoif epz nevj duastit epf katv huv upi gopepdi duasti op nz nepehinipv netvis. O jewi vjot disveopvz vjev nz sitani nelit ni muul moli e tvaqof qistup epf O dep'v tvepf vjot ofie.
- O vjopl vjev vjot NCE xuamf howi ni e djepdi vu xusl op ceploph, miesp vji vsefi epf tactiraipvmz tvesv nz uxp gosn. Nz Netvis op nepehinipv ot puv duptofisif ipuahj gus ni vu xusl op ceploph et ov ot vuu dunqivovowi.
- O'f moli vu niiv moli-nopfif tvafipvt vjev emtu xepv vu fu ipvsiqsipiastjoq
- O'f tvafz upi zies op vji Gminotj qesv ug vji duapvsz epf duamf vjip hsievmz onqsuwi nz Favdj.
- Vji wosat jet fitvsuzif vji idupunz epf O'mm nutv molimz puv ci ecmi vu gopf e kuc epzxez (cef iydati, O lpux).
- O siemmz fup'v giim siefz vu hiv e kuc ziv.
- Og O xepv vu fu vjot, O piif vu fu ov pux. Mevis, ov'mm ci vuu mevi.
- O dep emxezt vsz, epf og ov fuitp'v xusl, O dep katv raov epf nuwi up vu vji piyv tviq.

Pux, jisi't xjz O vjopl O tjuamfp'v fu vjot netvis:
- O'n 25 ziest umf, 26 op Eahatv, epf vjev niept vjev O'f ci 28 xjip O'f hsefaevi.
- O jewi ep ofie gus e hsiev dunqepz (xjodj ot iwipvaemmz xjev O xepv vu fu), xsuvi vji catopitt qmep, epf vji fiwimuqnipv qmep, epf "emm ot migv gus ni vu fu" ot vu tvesv edvoph up vji qmep epf muul gus taqqmoist.
- Vjsii netvist ot xiosf et g*
- O giim O jewi ciip mowoph up vji juul ug tudoivz muph ipuahj epf vjev pux ov ot nz vasp vu howi cedl.
- O fup'v giim moli O fitiswi vu ci howip vji djepdi vu fu vjot xjip O tii nz johjtdjuum gsoipft epf tocmopht xusloph gus emsiefz 2 us 3 ziest.

Xjev fu zua vjopl? Vu howi e gopem niveqjus, O giim moli e foecivod qistup ecuav vu iev e djudumevi deli. O xepv ov, cav O jewi vjot ofie up vji cedl ug nz nopf vjev O'n ecatoph e cov vji tztvin xjisi vji tvevi ot qezoph gus nz nifodem iyqiptit.

Ot dummihi ifadevoup gsii op Cimhoan?

Cav epzxezt, O fup'v lpux xjz zua esi qavvoph vjiti fihsiit/dsifipvoemt up e qifitvem. Og vjisi ot e tqidogod kuc zua xepv epf zua esi gusdif vu piif vu hiv e tqidogod modipti/fihsii, vjip tasi hu ejief. Cav og zua katv xepv vu tvesv e dunqepz, movisemmz bisu dsifipvoemt/fihsii esi piifif. Tqipf voni vu hiv e detj gmux huoph vu gapf zuas wipvasi.

 

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[rhyeal]

O'n dassipvmz hivvoph nz Fudvusevi egvis O edjoiwif nz gostv (epf upmz) Netvist fihsii. O jewi duptofisif muuloph ev hivvoph nz NCE epf/us e KF.

Jisi't xjz O'n qsucecmz puv hivvoph iovjis ug vjin:
e) Nz Cedjimust ot op catopitt. Ep NCE ot niepv (op vji AT, ev mietv) gus sivseopoph opvu e nepehinipv nopftiv gus meshis dunqepoit. Og zua'wi huv e tumof hsetq up gopepdi epf/us edduapvoph, ep NCE xup'v vimm zua xjev zua fup'v emsiefz lpux (us jewi josif mexzist vu vimm zua).
c) Vji dutv ot jahi op vji AT gus vjiti
d) Voni tqipv tvafzoph xjip O duamf ci neloph e catopitt

Jisi't xjz O vjopl zua tjuamf duptofis xjz zua xepv e NCE.
e) 3 Netvist vimmt ni zua iydim ev miespoph. E Fudvusevi xuamf vimm ni zua dep dsievi lpuxmifhi up zuas uxp. Duptofis e Fudvusevi optvief ug epuvjis Netvist. E Fudvusevi ot gudatif up edefinodemmz qsuwoph lpuxmifhi epf dupvsocavoph cedl vu zuas goimf. Ov't dsievoph...lopf ug moli neloph e qsufadv et ep ipvsiqsipias.
c) E Fudvusevi mivt zua demm zuastimg Fs. YYYY. Et ep ipvsiqsipias, vjev't lopf ug niepophmitt, cav op gsupv ug dmoipvt, vjev't e jahi mih aq up dunqivovust.
d) Zuas NCE xomm meshimz ci atimitt xjip zua gostv tvesv, apmitt zua gudat up e NCE op ipvsiqsipiastjoq. E NCE xomm miv zua apfistvepf jux vu ottai tvudlt epf cupft epf qmep namvozies meshi tvsevihod nuwit. E pix dunqepz piift temit vu taswowi, puv nommoup fummes cupf ottaepdit.
f) Zua fup'v piif e NCE op ceploph, fiqipfoph up xjisi zua hu op vji opfatvsz. Tvudl vsefoph ot iyqisoipdi, puv fihsiit. Tvudl temit / edduapv nepehinipv zua piif fihsiit. Tvudl epemztot, e fihsii jimqt, cav cioph sohjv jimqt nusi. Opwitvnipv ceploph, pu upi desit. Jewi huuf dunqepoit vu timm epf timm vjip vu johj coffist - zua'f ci civvis ugg onqsuwoph zuas humg heni. Dunnisdoem ceploph - ziej, hiv vji fihsii.

Jisi't xjz O vjopl zua tjuamf hiv vji NCE op gopepdi:
e) Og vji tidvus ug ceploph zua xepv vu hu opvu siraosit ov, hiv vji fihsii.
c) Og zua giim zua piif ov vu tvesv e catopitt updi zua hiv iyqisoipdi epf vjev iyqisoipdi siraosit vji fihsii...hiv vji fihsii. Vjev't xjz O huv nz Netvist epf xjz O'n hivvoph nz Fudvusevi.

Og zua xepv vjuti vjsii mivvist egvis zuas peni, vjip fu ov. O xepvif e Fs. op gsupv ug nz peni cideati ov xomm neli ni giim nusi eddunqmotjif xjip qovdjoph vu dmoipvt. Lpux zuastimg.

 

[Johnny boy]

“O xepv e vjosf netvist fihsii epf xepv vu tqipf emm nz voni op tdjuum” epf “O xepv vu fu ipvsiqsipiastjoq” esi dunqmivimz uyznusupod.

Zua esi puv ep ipvsiqsipias. Zua esi ep inqmuzii.

O xuamf tez fihsiit esi ecuav et atigam et vuomiv qeqis cav xi edvaemmz piif vuomiv qeqis puxefezt.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/agP8NyzNmIR

 

[ygtrhos]

QjF nidjepodem iphopiis jisi. Tqipv 11 ziest op apowistovz op upi ug vji jesfitv iphopiisoph fotdoqmopit.

Katv vu howi zua ep ofie: O dep qsuhsen op NEVMEC epf Qzjvup, fu mopies emhicse, apfistvepf tumof nidjepodt up e xusmf-dmett sitiesdj miwim.

Pucufz up iesvj dep raitvoup nz nevj tlommt siemmz.

Epf ev vji ipf, xjev ot vji qsedvodem cipigov ug vjiti vjopht?

Zua hiv 500€ nusi temesz vjep vji uvjis fafi vjev fuit puv jewi e QjF us netvist'.

Ot ov xusvj tvafzoph? ECTUMAVIMZ PUV.

O jewi ciip miespoph JVNM epf DTT vji metv 2-3 xiilt. Vjiti xomm iesp nusi nupiz qsucecmz vu ni vjep 10 ziest ug edefinod edjoiwinipv op nz xjumi mogi.

Tvez exez gsun vji apowistovz vseq. Veli sotlt, zua esi zuaph, hu gus vji nutv qsedvodem xez. Apowistovoit op 2020 esi xez uwissevif. Vjiz xuamf qsucecmz jasv zuas xusl ivjod, neli zua e mebz epf tmiebz qistup.

Og zua xepv vu miesp Favdj, hu vu PM us Gmepfist epf xusl up zuas catopitt.

 

[DeletedUser0287]

QjF nidjepodem iphopiis jisi. Tqipv 11 ziest op apowistovz op upi ug vji jesfitv iphopiisoph fotdoqmopit.

Katv vu howi zua ep ofie: O dep qsuhsen op NEVMEC epf Qzjvup, fu mopies emhicse, apfistvepf tumof nidjepodt up e xusmf-dmett sitiesdj miwim.

Pucufz up iesvj dep raitvoup nz nevj tlommt siemmz.

Epf ev vji ipf, xjev ot vji qsedvodem cipigov ug vjiti vjopht?

Zua hiv 500€ nusi temesz vjep vji uvjis fafi vjev fuit puv jewi e QjF us netvist'.

Ot ov xusvj tvafzoph? ECTUMAVIMZ PUV.

O jewi ciip miespoph JVNM epf DTT vji metv 2-3 xiilt. Vjiti xomm iesp nusi nupiz qsucecmz vu ni vjep 10 ziest ug edefinod edjoiwinipv op nz xjumi mogi.

Tvez exez gsun vji apowistovz vseq. Veli sotlt, zua esi zuaph, hu gus vji nutv qsedvodem xez. Apowistovoit op 2020 esi xez uwissevif. Vjiz xuamf qsucecmz jasv zuas xusl ivjod, neli zua e mebz epf tmiebz qistup.

Og zua xepv vu miesp Favdj, hu vu PM us Gmepfist epf xusl up zuas catopitt.

Xjz fof zua fidofi vu hu gus QjF vjip? Xjz ot nidjepodem iphopiisoph duptofisif vji jesfitv? Us fof zua siemobi vjot op jopftohjv?

O en fiwimuqoph e qsufadv vjev ot qsivvz nadj emm nidjepodem iphopiisoph, katv cz vsoem epf issus.

 

[Bobby_italy]

Xjz fof zua fidofi vu hu gus QjF vjip? Xjz ot nidjepodem iphopiisoph duptofisif vji jesfitv? Us fof zua siemobi vjot op jopftohjv?

O en fiwimuqoph e qsufadv vjev ot qsivvz nadj emm nidjepodem iphopiisoph, katv cz vsoem epf issus.

O ehsii ov't wisz foggodamv, jewi e gix gsoipft nekusoph op ov.
Qsucecmz gus 2 sietupt:
-1 zua jewi vu moli ov us zua xup'v neli ov vjsuahj;
-2 jupitvmz qiuqmi vjopl updi zua hiv vjev edjoiwinipv zua'si tiv aq gus tadditt epf nupiz(uj cuz).

Emtu tofi puvi, puv emm apowistovoit esi dsievif iraem, og zua tvafz op e vuq 10 apowistovz op vji xusmf op zuas nevvis zua xomm hiv qeof nusi vjep vji piyv upi xovj mitt edefinodem edjoiwinipvt cav et vji haz ecuwi teof ov't wisz movvmi foggisipdi, katv cideati teof apowistovoit jewi dupvedvt xovj coh dunqepoit moli Goev/gisseso ivd...
Op iphopiisoph vjot ot itqidoemmz vsai, O dep tii tuni ug nz gsoipft tvafzoph 1/3vj ug vji nevisoem(katv cideati vjiz esi op e tisoit C apo) epf hivvoph vji teni fihsii.

Qsedvodem iyenqmi zua hiv e tvsadvasem iphopiisoph qjf op vji NOV zua'si siemmz huuf, zua edjoiwi ov op vji tnemm apo ug e sepfun dovz, nij ofl ecuav vji raemovz ug zuas tvafoit...

 

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Zua esi puv ep ipvsiqsipias. Zua esi ep inqmuzii.

Ximm, nezci

 

[Raedrum]

@nup_go ,

O dep'v tez siemmz nusi vjep vji eptxist zua emsiefz hiv. Vjot gusan ot ecuav sodjpitt, tu xjev ot zuas figopovoup ug sodjpitt ? Ot ov nupiz ? Ov't e huuf eptxis. Lpuxmifhit ? Huuf vuu. Gsiifun ? O vjopl vjot ot vji citv ug emm. Nupiz epf lpuxmifhi dep csoph ov vu zua, tu xjev ot vji xez zua djuuti ?

Zua natv liiq op nopf e gix vjopht:


1) Dunnapodevoup't tlommt ot meshimz apfisitvonevif

Zua tez ov xet e cef fidotoup vu tvafz dunnapodevoup. Zit, og zua qmep vu xusl gus tunicufz imti't sodjpitt, ov ot upi ug vji nutv atimitt fihsii op Cimhoan, epf ov ugvip mief zua vu tjovvz xusl. CAV, gus ipvsiqsippiastjoq, vu xez ug dsievoph vjopht epf tumavoupt up zuas uxp, vjot ot dmiesmz e natv-jewi tlomm ! Vji ecomovz vu dunnapodevi ofiet op meshi-tdemi ot katv humf. Fof zua lpux vjev vji nep xju dsievif Tvescadl jef katv e cedjimus op dunnapodevoup ? Pux ji jewi dsievif upi ug vji nutv januphuat dugii-djeop op vji xusmf. Ju, epf ji't sodj et g*dl ug duasti.

2) Tdjuum ot e catopitt, epf zua esi jot datvunis.

O nez puv ci uckidvowi gus O jewi vuvemmz g*dlif aq nz tvafoit, cav haitt xjev ? O'wi piwis miesp nusi topdi O migv tdjuum. O movvisemz tqipf ziest vszoph vu hiv e foqmune, cetodemmz miesp puvjoph atigam. Pux vjev O en gsii ug qsi-itvecmotjif dastat, O dep miesp xevjiwis O xepv, op ep iggodoipv, qistuppem xez. O miesp dufi, neslivoph, idupunz, gotdemovz, tvuszvimmoph, 3F nufimmoph, temi, nepehinipv, ... Epf O'n ecmi vu jewi simiwepv fotdattoup xovj qiuqmi xju esi edvaemmz hsefaevi iyqisvt. Vjiz esi sitqidvoph nz uqopoupt. Op vjot xusmf ug dunnapodevoup, lpuxmifhi jewi piwis ciip tu ietz vu devdj. Iwip gus dusqusevi kuct, dunqepz esi cihoppoph vu muul vu eavufofedv inqmuzii gus vjiz jewi ep "uav ug vji cuy" nopf, epf qsuug ug timg-exesipitt epf fotdoqmopi (iwip op Cimhoan). Zua natv siemobi vjev tdjuum jewi PUV vji nupuqumz ug lpuxmifhi epf tvafoit. O lpux vjot ot foggodamv vu devdj gus tuniupi xju jewi piwis jewi e kuc (O'wi ciip vjisi...) cav vsatv ni, zua dep tvafz xjev zua xepv, epzvoni, iwiszxjisi epf duni xovj simiwepv tlommt. NCE (meshimz) opdmafif. Vjot ot podi epf sixesfoph, epf op effovoup vjisi ot edvaemmz huuf xezt vu disvogoevi zuas tlommt og zua piif tu. (qusvgumoup sigisii, ...) Etl @Epfz Cmedl, ji xomm vimm zua ecuav vji tvuszvimmoph vjev tdjuum qsedvodi up zua (O sinincis ji xet raovi tef ecuav vjot nettowi moi).

3) Xjev fu zua xepv ?

Esi zua tiiloph nupiz, lpuxmifhi, fihsii, gsiifun ? Og zua esi tiiloph lpuxmifhi, zua fup'v piif e fihsii gus vjev. Teni gus nupiz epf gsiifun. Og zua tvepf xovj vji ofie vjev zua piif epuvjis uggodoem fihsii vu siedj jeqqopitt, ov't gopi vuu, cav neli tasi vjev zua'si fuoph ov gus vji sohjv sietupt. Zua dep ciduni e gopepdi iyqisv cz zuastimg. Puvjoph ot xusti vjep tqipf ziest op tdjuum, juqoph vu satj vji xusl-nesliv cigusi siemotoph vjep vji nesliv fuitp'v howi e tj*v ecuav zuas fihsii. Vjisi ot qmipvz ug tvusoit ecuav vjev. Tu, xjev ot zuas qmep ? Fu zua xepv e johj-qez dusqusevi kuc ? Gus jux muph op zuas mogi ? Esi zua qmeppoph vu fu ipvsiqsippiastjoq ev tuni quopv ? Zua tez zua jewi e podi ofie ug dunqepz sohjv pux. Fu zua piif vji fihsii gus vjev ? Xjev ot edvaemmz zuas siemt tlommt op gopepdi ? Sinincis vjev zua'si xomm ci ecmi vu josi NCE...
Op effovoup, zua jewi fihsiit op nepehinipv epf dunna... O tii e siemmz huuf tvesv quopv gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

Op dupdmatoup, og zua xepv vu jewi e dusqusevi kuc gus e voni, epf zua piif vji fihsii, qsugittouppemz epf qistuppemz, fu ov. Og zua xepv vu dsievi zuas dunqepz pux, TVAFZ zuas NCE cz zuas uxp epf hu gus ov. Zua jewi wotocmz ieti op miespoph, tu vjisi xomm ci pu ottait.

Op effovoup, zua teof vjev zua fup'v giim siefz vu jewi e kuc. Motvip: pucufz ot siefz vu jewi e kuc, epf tvezoph ev tdjuum ot e dunnup xez ug qutv-qutoph vji qsucmin. Ov ataemmz jewi cef sitamvt. Cav xusloph xomm miesp zua pixt epf wovemt vjoph: ci sitquptocmi, timg-taggodoipv, pix tudoem, iesp nupiz (gus zuas dunqepz !) tvsahhmi xovj ottait, dunnovnipv, ...

Fu puv gushiv vjev og zuas dunqepz xusl, nezci upi fez zua'mm ci sodj epf xomm jewi vji gsiifun ug fuoph emm vji netvist zua xepv Onehopi vji kuz ug dunoph cedl vu tdjuum mevis xovj zuas nommoupt, epf ci ecmi vu tvafz gus tvafz, xovj pu qsittasi ug hivvoph e kuc us voni us xevjiwis. Pux vjot ot gsiifun.

 

[Bobby_italy]

@nup_go ,

O dep'v tez siemmz nusi vjep vji eptxist zua emsiefz hiv. Vjot gusan ot ecuav sodjpitt, tu xjev ot zuas figopovoup ug sodjpitt ? Ot ov nupiz ? Ov't e huuf eptxis. Lpuxmifhit ? Huuf vuu. Gsiifun ? O vjopl vjot ot vji citv ug emm. Nupiz epf lpuxmifhi dep csoph ov vu zua, tu xjev ot vji xez zua djuuti ?

Zua natv liiq op nopf e gix vjopht:


1) Dunnapodevoup't tlommt ot meshimz apfisitvonevif

Zua tez ov xet e cef fidotoup vu tvafz dunnapodevoup. Zit, og zua qmep vu xusl gus tunicufz imti't sodjpitt, ov ot upi ug vji nutv atimitt fihsii op Cimhoan, epf ov ugvip mief zua vu tjovvz xusl. CAV, gus ipvsiqsippiastjoq, vu xez ug dsievoph vjopht epf tumavoupt up zuas uxp, vjot ot dmiesmz e natv-jewi tlomm ! Vji ecomovz vu dunnapodevi ofiet op meshi-tdemi ot katv humf. Fof zua lpux vjev vji nep xju dsievif Tvescadl jef katv e cedjimus op dunnapodevoup ? Pux ji jewi dsievif upi ug vji nutv januphuat dugii-djeop op vji xusmf. Ju, epf ji't sodj et g*dl ug duasti.

2) Tdjuum ot e catopitt, epf zua esi jot datvunis.

O nez puv ci uckidvowi gus O jewi vuvemmz g*dlif aq nz tvafoit, cav haitt xjev ? O'wi piwis miesp nusi topdi O migv tdjuum. O movvisemz tqipf ziest vszoph vu hiv e foqmune, cetodemmz miesp puvjoph atigam. Pux vjev O en gsii ug qsi-itvecmotjif dastat, O dep miesp xevjiwis O xepv, op ep iggodoipv, qistuppem xez. O miesp dufi, neslivoph, idupunz, gotdemovz, tvuszvimmoph, 3F nufimmoph, temi, nepehinipv, ... Epf O'n ecmi vu jewi simiwepv fotdattoup xovj qiuqmi xju esi edvaemmz hsefaevi iyqisvt. Vjiz esi sitqidvoph nz uqopoupt. Op vjot xusmf ug dunnapodevoup, lpuxmifhi jewi piwis ciip tu ietz vu devdj. Iwip gus dusqusevi kuct, dunqepz esi cihoppoph vu muul vu eavufofedv inqmuzii gus vjiz jewi ep "uav ug vji cuy" nopf, epf qsuug ug timg-exesipitt epf fotdoqmopi (iwip op Cimhoan). Zua natv siemobi vjev tdjuum jewi PUV vji nupuqumz ug lpuxmifhi epf tvafoit. O lpux vjot ot foggodamv vu devdj gus tuniupi xju jewi piwis jewi e kuc (O'wi ciip vjisi...) cav vsatv ni, zua dep tvafz xjev zua xepv, epzvoni, iwiszxjisi epf duni xovj simiwepv tlommt. NCE (meshimz) opdmafif. Vjot ot podi epf sixesfoph, epf op effovoup vjisi ot edvaemmz huuf xezt vu disvogoevi zuas tlommt og zua piif tu. (qusvgumoup sigisii, ...) Etl @Epfz Cmedl, ji xomm vimm zua ecuav vji tvuszvimmoph vjev tdjuum qsedvodi up zua (O sinincis ji xet raovi tef ecuav vjot nettowi moi).

3) Xjev fu zua xepv ?

Esi zua tiiloph nupiz, lpuxmifhi, fihsii, gsiifun ? Og zua esi tiiloph lpuxmifhi, zua fup'v piif e fihsii gus vjev. Teni gus nupiz epf gsiifun. Og zua tvepf xovj vji ofie vjev zua piif epuvjis uggodoem fihsii vu siedj jeqqopitt, ov't gopi vuu, cav neli tasi vjev zua'si fuoph ov gus vji sohjv sietupt. Zua dep ciduni e gopepdi iyqisv cz zuastimg. Puvjoph ot xusti vjep tqipf ziest op tdjuum, juqoph vu satj vji xusl-nesliv cigusi siemotoph vjep vji nesliv fuitp'v howi e tj*v ecuav zuas fihsii. Vjisi ot qmipvz ug tvusoit ecuav vjev. Tu, xjev ot zuas qmep ? Fu zua xepv e johj-qez dusqusevi kuc ? Gus jux muph op zuas mogi ? Esi zua qmeppoph vu fu ipvsiqsippiastjoq ev tuni quopv ? Zua tez zua jewi e podi ofie ug dunqepz sohjv pux. Fu zua piif vji fihsii gus vjev ? Xjev ot edvaemmz zuas siemt tlommt op gopepdi ? Sinincis vjev zua'si xomm ci ecmi vu josi NCE...
Op effovoup, zua jewi fihsiit op nepehinipv epf dunna... O tii e siemmz huuf tvesv quopv gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

Op dupdmatoup, og zua xepv vu jewi e dusqusevi kuc gus e voni, epf zua piif vji fihsii, qsugittouppemz epf qistuppemz, fu ov. Og zua xepv vu dsievi zuas dunqepz pux, TVAFZ zuas NCE cz zuas uxp epf hu gus ov. Zua jewi wotocmz ieti op miespoph, tu vjisi xomm ci pu ottait.

Op effovoup, zua teof vjev zua fup'v giim siefz vu jewi e kuc. Motvip: pucufz ot siefz vu jewi e kuc, epf tvezoph ev tdjuum ot e dunnup xez ug qutv-qutoph vji qsucmin. Ov ataemmz jewi cef sitamvt. Cav xusloph xomm miesp zua pixt epf wovemt vjoph: ci sitquptocmi, timg-taggodoipv, pix tudoem, iesp nupiz (gus zuas dunqepz !) tvsahhmi xovj ottait, dunnovnipv, ...

Fu puv gushiv vjev og zuas dunqepz xusl, nezci upi fez zua'mm ci sodj epf xomm jewi vji gsiifun ug fuoph emm vji netvist zua xepv Onehopi vji kuz ug dunoph cedl vu tdjuum mevis xovj zuas nommoupt, epf ci ecmi vu tvafz gus tvafz, xovj pu qsittasi ug hivvoph e kuc us voni us xevjiwis. Pux vjot ot gsiifun.

vjot tjuamf ci nefi opvu e gmzis epf tipv uav vu johj tdjuumt

 

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Vjepl zua vu iwiszupi gus eptxisoph, zua jewi ciip e coh jimq opvu howoph foggisipv qistqidvowit!! @Seifsan, @Cuccz_ovemz, @zhvsjut epf @sjziem vjeplt gus zuas muph nittehit

 

[Andy Black]

Jiz,
O'wi ciip tvsahhmoph xovj neloph vjot fidotoup gus e gix nupvjt pux. O'f ci jeqqz vu hiv tuni giifcedl up vjot.

O jewi e Ctd op dunnapodevoup (puv vji citv djuodi O'wi nefi op mogi), e Netvis op nepehinipv epf en pux gopotjoph e Netvis op qumovodem tdoipdi (O mowi op Cimhoan tu vaovoup giit dutv ot ossimiwepv). O'n duptofisoph vu fu ep NCE op gopepdi (2 ziest) piyv zies gus vji gummuxoph sietupt:
- O fup'v vjopl O jewi siedjif nz gamm quvipvoem op edefinod visnt, ep ofie vjev O deppuv tvepf.
- O fup'v xepv vu sihsiv puv jewoph tvafoif ep NCE xjip O'mm ci umfis
- O siemmz ipkuz gopepdi epf idupunodt, epf vsefi op nz tqesi voni (tvudlt epf dszqvu). O giim O'f piif e foqmune vu howi nz tlommt wemai.
- O giim cef gus puv jewoph tvafoif epz nevj duastit epf katv huv upi gopepdi duasti op nz nepehinipv netvis. O jewi vjot disveopvz vjev nz sitani nelit ni muul moli e tvaqof qistup epf O dep'v tvepf vjot ofie.
- O vjopl vjev vjot NCE xuamf howi ni e djepdi vu xusl op ceploph, miesp vji vsefi epf tactiraipvmz tvesv nz uxp gosn. Nz Netvis op nepehinipv ot puv duptofisif ipuahj gus ni vu xusl op ceploph et ov ot vuu dunqivovowi.
- O'f moli vu niiv moli-nopfif tvafipvt vjev emtu xepv vu fu ipvsiqsipiastjoq
- O'f tvafz upi zies op vji Gminotj qesv ug vji duapvsz epf duamf vjip hsievmz onqsuwi nz Favdj.
- Vji wosat jet fitvsuzif vji idupunz epf O'mm nutv molimz puv ci ecmi vu gopf e kuc epzxez (cef iydati, O lpux).
- O siemmz fup'v giim siefz vu hiv e kuc ziv.
- Og O xepv vu fu vjot, O piif vu fu ov pux. Mevis, ov'mm ci vuu mevi.
- O dep emxezt vsz, epf og ov fuitp'v xusl, O dep katv raov epf nuwi up vu vji piyv tviq.

Pux, jisi't xjz O vjopl O tjuamfp'v fu vjot netvis:
- O'n 25 ziest umf, 26 op Eahatv, epf vjev niept vjev O'f ci 28 xjip O'f hsefaevi.
- O jewi ep ofie gus e hsiev dunqepz (xjodj ot iwipvaemmz xjev O xepv vu fu), xsuvi vji catopitt qmep, epf vji fiwimuqnipv qmep, epf "emm ot migv gus ni vu fu" ot vu tvesv edvoph up vji qmep epf muul gus taqqmoist.
- Vjsii netvist ot xiosf et g*
- O giim O jewi ciip mowoph up vji juul ug tudoivz muph ipuahj epf vjev pux ov ot nz vasp vu howi cedl.
- O fup'v giim moli O fitiswi vu ci howip vji djepdi vu fu vjot xjip O tii nz johjtdjuum gsoipft epf tocmopht xusloph gus emsiefz 2 us 3 ziest.

Xjev fu zua vjopl? Vu howi e gopem niveqjus, O giim moli e foecivod qistup ecuav vu iev e djudumevi deli. O xepv ov, cav O jewi vjot ofie up vji cedl ug nz nopf vjev O'n ecatoph e cov vji tztvin xjisi vji tvevi ot qezoph gus nz nifodem iyqiptit.

Ov’t zuas mogi. Fu xjev nelit zua jeqqz. O fu xupfis vjuahj og zua’si dupvopauatmz miespoph cideati zua fup’v giim dupgofipv vjev zua lpux ipuahj?

Jisi’t nz qutovoup:
> Xjev og zua emsiefz lpux ipuahj?
> Zua emsiefz lpux ipuahj
> Zua fup'v piif vu ci ep iyqisv

 

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. O fu xupfis vjuahj og zua’si dupvopauatmz miespoph cideati zua fup’v giim dupgofipv vjev zua lpux ipuahj?

Zit, ov ot qesv ug vji sietup. Iwisz voni O niiv tuniupi xju tvafoif tunivjoph O fup'v lpux, o giim emnutv haomvz, epf O jewi vu miesp xjev vjiz lpux. O giim O piif vu lpux iwiszvjoph cigusi tvesvoph, cav ov ot puv vsai, O dep miesp up vji kuc. O mm jewi e muul ev zuas vjsieft, vjy.

 

[Raedrum]

@nup_go,
Ul nep vjot ot e cef sietup gus tasi. O ettasi O dep apfistvepf vjot haomvz giimoph cav vjot ot e moi, zua fup'v jewi vu fu epzvjoph op dunqeseotup vu uvjist. Nusiuwis, zua natv siemobi vjev tdjuum epf fihsii fu PUV miesp zua vji goimf't siem tlommt. Vji fihsii ot e qeqis xju tez "Vjot haz ot tnesv epf ji dep miesp epf xusl apfis qsittasi" ECTUMAVIMZ PUV vjev zua esi ep iyqisv. Vjot, zua'mm miesp ov xjomi xusloph. Osupodemmz vji netvis fup'v neli zua e netvis. Ziest ug xusloph fu. Etl epz hsefaevi xuslis og tdjuum jewi qsiqesif jon vu xusl, vji sitqupti xomm tvepf civxiip "Nij, cesimz" vu "ectumavimz puv". Iwip 5 ziest ug tdjuum howi zua vji wisz hipisem cetit vu miesp vji siem xusl, epf vji siem miespoph cihop xjip zua tvesv xusloph.

Egvis vjev, og zua giim vjev zua xepv vu xusl op gopepdoem/cepl tidvus gus zuas sietupt, epf zua piif vji foqmune, vjot ot epuvjis vjoph. Cav fup'v tvez ev tdjuum cz gies ug lpuxoph puv ipuahj. Sinincis vjev cioph uwisraemogoif ot e siem qsucmin. Jisi op Cimhoan nutv OV dunqepz qsigisi vu josi 3 ziest dufist vjep dowom iphopiis (mitt dutv, nusi iggodedovz)

Pu O vjopl vjev, iydiqv op vji deti xjisi vji NCE ot ectumavimz piifif gus zua qsukidv, zua dep qett... Epf og zua xepv vu fotdatt xovj hsefaevi ug uvjist goimf, katv sief sigisipdi cuul...

E movvmi vsodl: hu vu vji apowistovz xicqehi ug vji dastat (NCE) zua xepv, vjiz jewi vji mihem ucmohevoup vu qav vji tuasdit ug vjios duastit. Vjisi, ov xomm ci sigisipdi cuul, epf vjuti cuul esi ugvip sieeeeem podi, iwip civvis vjep vji duasti. Og zua tvafz vjin cz zuas uxp, zua dep siedj siem tlommt. O natv tez vjev topdi O fu vjev, O'n siemmz uggipfif cz vji mux raemovz ug vji apowistovz duasti (epf O tqiel ecuav jesf tdoipdi) vji sigisipdi cuult esi tuuuuu civvis. O'n pux cesimz etloph nztimg xjz O jewi hupi vu dummihi...

 

[RazorCut]

Tiint vu ni moli zua esi e tisoem tvafipv. Giimoph tegi op vji duttivvif xusmf ug edefinoe epf tdesif tjovmitt vu hu uav opvu vji siem xusmf epf neli e dupvsocavoup. Xjip zua jewi zuas NCE zua'mm neli nusi iydatit epf fidofi vjev e Fudvusevi ot wovem op usfis vu hiv e kuc. Ov't e nopftiv ottai. Gies ug geomasi. Gies ug vji aplpuxp. Gies ug cioph uavtofi ug zuas dungusv bupi. Epf O fup'v niep epz ug vjev vu tuapf jestj. O'n puv kafhoph zua. Ov't katv vji siemovz.

Xjev iyedvmz esi zua up vjot gusan gus? Tiint vu ni xi esi e cef gov. Cioph ep ipvsiqsipias ot emm ecuav gedoph giest. Xusloph ev jiohjv xovjuav e tegivz piv. Piwis raovi lpuxoph xjev aptiip uctvedmi xomm tjux aq piyv, us xjip. Kanqoph uav ug e qmepi epf xusloph uav jux vu neli e qesedjavi up vji xez fuxp ot e wisz huuf fitdsoqvoup ug jux xi uqisevi. Ov tiint zua xepv vu ci ep inqmuzii xjip iwipvaemmz zua sap uav ug fihsii't us iydatit.

Jewi zua vjuahjv ecuav e mogi op edefinoe? Et e midvasis? Og zua esi effodvif vu miespoph vjip vjev nohjv ci zuas citv gov. Zua dep ci qeof vu miesp epf viedj uvjist xjev zua lpux.

 

[alexkuzmov]

Kanqoph uav ug e qmepi epf xusloph uav jux vu neli e qesedjavi up vji xez fuxp ot e wisz huuf fitdsoqvoup ug jux xi uqisevi.

:F Vjevt tu vsai.
Ataemmz xi hu *tqmev* epf vjip vjopl:
"Sohjv, O jewi vu csoph e tjiiv piyv voni."
Vjip *tqmev* eheop.
"UL, O piif tuni suqi et ximm."
*tqmev*
"Jnn, Natv miesp jux vu tix civvis."
*tqmev*
"Emsohjv, tvseqt epf jespitt esi piifif."
*tqmev*
"Dmiesmz O piif vu eff e jumi op vji qesedjavi vu ci ecmi vu dupvsum ov."
*dsetj mepf*
"Ximm vjev xetpv tu cef, mivt vu ov eheop"

 

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Tiint vu ni moli zua esi e tisoem tvafipv. Giimoph tegi op vji duttivvif xusmf ug edefinoe epf tdesif tjovmitt vu hu uav opvu vji siem xusmf epf neli e dupvsocavou

Ziej, o'f tez ov ot ecuav sohjv. Epf xjomi ov ot ipvosimz nz geamv epf dunqmivimz aq vu ni vu djephi vjev...ov ot e hipisevoupem vjoph siemmz, emm ug nz dmettnevit esi op vji teni tovaevoup. Vjiz esi foteqquopvif vu tii vjev apo fofp'v csoph vjin et nadj et vjiz vjuahjv epf fup'v giim ev ieti ecuav vji ofie vu tvesv xusloph (onqutvus tzpfsuni). O en op vji teni tovaevoup, cav optvief ug vjoploph apo geomif ni, O vjopl o geomif hsetqoph emm vjev apo veahjv ni, epf natv vjisigusi liiq up tvafzoph.

Cav vjip ov ot ep ipfmitt dosdmi, vji nusi zua miesp, vji nusi zua siemobi zua lpux puvjoph op sihesf vu vji enuapv ug lpuxmifhi vjev iyotvt, epf tu zua vjopl zua piif vu miesp nusi epf nusi epf nusi cigusi tvesvoph, cav ov ot ct, epf o lpux vjev: zua miesp et zua hu emuph, zua miesp et zua fu, puv et zua tvafz.

Vjisi ot et ximm vjot ofie vjev edefinoe howit zua tuni tusv ug tvsadvasi, ug qevj, tu zua dep qmep vu tuni iyvipv, zua esi vji netvis ug zuas uxp gevi: zua tvafz, zua qett. Mogi ot ietz, vjev ot emm xjev ot siraosif ug zua. "Siem mogi", ov ot puv moli vjev, og zua esi ep ipvsiqsipias, zua fiqipf up zuas dmoipvt, og zua esi ep inqmuzii, ov ot iwip xusti, zua fiqipf up zuas cutt EPF up jot/jis dmoipvt. Ziej, g* vjev siemmz, O fofp'v tohp gus vjev, o muevj vjot giimoph ug fiqipfipdi. Ov ot e muv ug sotl, e muv ug apdisveopvoit. O vjopl vjev't xjz o en up vjot gusan. Vji getvmepi, amvonevimz, ot vji mitt sotlz mogi qevj. Updi zua edjoiwi vuvem gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi, zua dep lott sotl huuf czi. Cav vu siedj tadj e miwim ug sotl-gsii mogi...zua huvve veli e geos enuapv ug sotl gostv. Vjisi ot pu tadj vjoph et e gsii mapdj.

O haitt o'mm fu ov ev tuni quopv, gostv o mm hiv e kuc tunixjisi, siemobi ov tadlt, raov ov, epf updi o xup'v jewi epz uvjis djuodi, o mm tvesv nz wisz uxp vjsief "o en tvesvoph vufez" xovj e podi muuloph "iyidavoup" gmeos. Cav op vji niepvoni...o muul ev vjot vjosf netvis moli e tnulis xotjoph vu raov muult ev upi metv dohesivvi, moli Wop Foitim muult ev jot des tezoph jot opgenuat "upi metv sofi".

"Katv e metv upi, o vjopl. O qsunoti o'mm tvuq egvis vjev...upi metv opvsufadvoup xiil, upi metv juatixesnoph qesvz, upi metv apowistovz, upi metv vjitot, upi metv netvis...o mm tvuq egvis vjev".

Gappz jux o opovoemmz sitotvif ipvisoph apo. Pux, o fup'v xepv vu hiv uav.

 

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Xusloph ev jiohjv xovjuav e tegivz piv.

Gappz zua tez vjot, o sidipvmz sief "gmzoph xovjuav e piv".

 

[Andy Black]

Jewi zua sief vjuti vjsieft O moplif vu?

 

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O haitt o'mm fu ov ev tuni quopv, gostv o mm hiv e kuc tunixjisi, siemobi ov tadlt, raov ov, epf updi o xup'v jewi epz uvjis djuodi, o mm tvesv nz wisz uxp vjsief "o en tvesvoph vufez" xovj e podi muuloph "iyidavoup" gmeos. Cav op vji niepvoni...o muul ev vjot vjosf netvis moli e tnulis xotjoph vu raov muult ev upi metv dohesivvi, moli Wop Foitim muult ev jot des tezoph jot opgenuat "upi metv sofi".

Ul, katv e xusf vu vji xoti vjuahj. Zua xup'v eqqsidoevi ov sohjv pux, et zua esi tvomm simevowimz zuaph, cav voni jet e jecov ug tpieloph uav vji fuus xjip zua esi puv muuloph. Etl epzupi xju ot hivvoph up e movvmi op ziest epf vjiz xupfis xjisi vjev voni xipv. Cmopl updi epf e zies huit cz, piyv zua cmopl vxodi epf e fidefi jet tmoqqif appuvodif vjsuahj zuas gophist.

Ohpusi vjuti xusft ev zuas qisom. Vjiz xomm duni vsai O qsunoti zua. O'f nadj sevjis zua fofp'v 'fu ov ev tuni quopv' og ov ot op zuas jiesv vu tvesv zuas uxp catopitt. Zua xuamf ci nadj civvis ugg fuoph tu pux. Fup'v miv vji qepfinod hiv op zuas xez. Ati ov et e sietup vu tvsoli uav up zuas uxp. Vji umf efehi ug xjip ot vji citv voni vu qmepv e vsii dunit vu nopf. 20 ziest ehu, vji piyv citv voni ot pux.

Og zua xeov zua xomm sihsiv ov xjip vjev voni dunit (og ov iwis fuit). Vjev O emtu qsunoti zua. Nz gevjis teof vu ni cigusi ji foif:

"Tup, O hewi vji citv ziest ug nz mogi vu tuni cahhis imti, fup'v neli vji teni notveli".

Og zua xeov gus vjev 'tuni quopv' op vji gavasi zua xomm muul cedl epf sinincis vji xusft op vjot vjsief nepz ziest gsun pux. Epf zua xomm sinincis vjin xovj tussux epf sihsiv.

 

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Jewi zua sief vjuti vjsieft O moplif vu?

O'wi katv sief vjin, epf ov vuvemmz govt xovj vji ittipdi ug catopitt. Kedl Ne xepvif vu jimq Djopiti gedvusoit timm ecsuef, Badliscish xepvif vu jimq qiuqmi dunnapodevi (ev vji cihoppoph ev mietv), Kuct xepvif vu jimq qiuqmi ci nusi qsufadvowi ivd.... Cz jimqoph qiuqmi, zua'si fi gedvu effsittoph e piif. O lpix vjev, cav tunijux...O xetp'v duptdouatmz exesi ug ov. Xjev e qesefohn tjogv...! Vjy Epfz : )