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Your Boss Doesn't Give A Shit About You

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I agree with most of what's said in this post. I've had shit bosses in the past and my approach was to be straight up about the conflicts. If that doesn't work then it's time to consider options and potentially leave the organisation.

The sad truth is we're not all going to get on.
 
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I think at the end of the day, all of us just want to be appreciated and respected.

When this falls apart from either an employee/employer perspective, things go south.

Here's a scenario from my life that just happened recently.

Loyal employee is told upon hiring that she will receive a pay raise every year, commensurate with performance. Said employee does incredible work and is responsible for big company growth. Employer says "Great job, you really are valuable to this company." Employer proceeds to forget employee's anniversary dates, failing to provide any annual review, failing to provide any raise or increase in benefits, except more demands/work for less pay, which was already under industry average.

Employee says adios.


True story.

All humans are ruled by self-interest.

Some humans / employers manage their self-interest and transmute their self-interest to their employees, like a family operates.

We should aim to be the latter, at least until such is proven to be foolhardy.

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As someone that wholeheartedly endorses lying to employees, let me explain. Does it bother me to lie to people? Yes, it does. It also really makes you feel like an a**hole firing them only a couple weeks after telling them everything is fine.

Here's the thing, though, at the end of the day, you have to keep them working. When you tell people the company is in trouble, as the "boss" you'd like to think they're working extra hard, and thinking about it every waking hour trying to come up with a solution.

The reality: If you tell people the company is in trouble, during that critical time where every day matters and you need some wins, they're going to be coming in to work late and spending their days browsing Indeed.

TLDR: Everyone makes decisions based on what's best for their own survival. How's it any worse when a "boss" does it?


This is very true. It’s painful to lie, or at least tell tell a version of the truth that says what you want to say.

But that’s the job. If you don’t, you might destroy the company. If you do, you might save it.

I run an early stage company in healthcare IT with several million $ invested over the past few years. It’s very common in this space to take years to reach profitability and we are no exception.

In between funding rounds, it’s also very common to be asked how much of a cash runway we have left. Too often this is only weeks or a couple months away.

Last year at this time (June 2016) we had maybe 6 weeks of funding left before we had to close the company. We also had several contracts with potential clients under discussion (not closed) and several investors that were a “maybe” given our current situation. If any one of these closed, we were safe. If not, we were dead.

I was asked how much cash runway we had, by someone outside of the tight circle that needs to know.

Option 1: “We have less than 2 months of cash left before we’re dead.”

Result: This immediately spreads through the company, and everyone’s looking for a new job that day. Employees jump ship as soon as they are able. Company truly does die.

Option 2: “Don’t worry, we have enough to get us through this year before we look to raise a larger round in 2017.”

Result: Company continues running normally. I and executive team busts a$$ to close sales and raise money. Company has a chance at not dying.


I chose option 2.

We are still here and running cash-flow positive today. Most of the employees have no idea how close we’ve come to shutting the company down.
 

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I work with my dad and ue is practically my boss. Yes I do get certain perks for being the boss's son. No doubt. Bt even he, who is my dad, cant keep the promise of giving my yearly dividend. Evrrytime the tome comes to give the dividends he makes reasons (oh the market is bad we cannot burden the company, etc) And he is my dad. My own blood. So my point is, if your own blood cant keep the promise he made of giving out your yearly dividend, what of someone who is not related to you personally?

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I work with my dad and ue is practically my boss. Yes I do get certain perks for being the boss's son. No doubt. Bt even he, who is my dad, cant keep the promise of giving my yearly dividend. Evrrytime the tome comes to give the dividends he makes reasons (oh the market is bad we cannot burden the company, etc) And he is my dad. My own blood. So my point is, if your own blood cant keep the promise he made of giving out your yearly dividend, what of someone who is not related to you personally?

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Maybe it's "scripted" to not give a F*ck about worthy employees. That doesn't mean everybody has to act like that. Just being nice and valuing good workers doesn't cost anything, but might give you more in the future.
 

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I sometimes forget the dance we do when we have a job. This thread has reminded me and makes me extra grateful today.

Years ago I persuaded a friend that he was good enough to be a freelance IT contractor instead of an IT employee ... sitting in the same seat doing the same work, just paid differently.

I remember asking how it was going when he was a few months into his first contract.

"It's a breath of fresh air. I don't get sick pay or holiday pay, but I invoice if I work late or weekends. It feels like a more honest relationship."

Interesting how the same work could feel so different when he saw himself as his own boss.
 
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I do not think that there is somebody right in this story. I believe both the bosses and this person have chosen the wrong way to go. While the first should be fair with people and the second should be a complete fool to believe in lie for 25 years.
 

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the second should be a complete fool to believe in lie for 25 years.

That is true. Many people WANT to believe lies, rather than confront with reality. It's no coincidence the guy is overweight as well. Eating is probably the only thing that makes him feel good.
 

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An interesting twist: The company that I work for will most likely be out of business before the end of 2017. Sucks for me, I've been working for a combination of a very below market salary and equity. I don't hold that against anyone. It was a calculated risk, and I'd do it again.

In the last two or three weeks, the owner has been telling me there's all these left field things that could happen to turn things around. Don't get me wrong, there's a 1% chance they do, but it's the irony that I know he's "lying" to me because he needs me to keep working hard right up to the bitter end. He's dangling hope in front of me because he knows that my hard work might be the difference in him exiting with no debt or 6 figures of it.

Crazy thing: I don't hold it against him. I'd do the same thing in his situation. Kind of makes me work my a$$ off in a weird kind of way.
How is that lying? Guess what? He knows you know....
 
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I get what you all are saying about bosses and whatnot, but the lesson here I think is that staying slowlane and giving up the "Control' for supposed security is foolish, these examples being the proof of that. The guy thought he had it made, and would one day be CEO, but he lacked the Control element. Another person had his fate in their hands and he squandered 20+ years of his life awaiting that persons verdict.

Bosses may not hate you, but they also, as many have stated here, do not have your interests at heart. To me, that goes perfectly with the title of the post. Bosses do not give a F*ck about you. As it should be. but there are some who do not understand this.
 

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This is very true. It’s painful to lie, or at least tell tell a version of the truth that says what you want to say.

But that’s the job. If you don’t, you might destroy the company. If you do, you might save it.

I run an early stage company in healthcare IT with several million $ invested over the past few years. It’s very common in this space to take years to reach profitability and we are no exception.

In between funding rounds, it’s also very common to be asked how much of a cash runway we have left. Too often this is only weeks or a couple months away.

Last year at this time (June 2016) we had maybe 6 weeks of funding left before we had to close the company. We also had several contracts with potential clients under discussion (not closed) and several investors that were a “maybe” given our current situation. If any one of these closed, we were safe. If not, we were dead.

I was asked how much cash runway we had, by someone outside of the tight circle that needs to know.

Option 1: “We have less than 2 months of cash left before we’re dead.”

Result: This immediately spreads through the company, and everyone’s looking for a new job that day. Employees jump ship as soon as they are able. Company truly does die.

Option 2: “Don’t worry, we have enough to get us through this year before we look to raise a larger round in 2017.”

Result: Company continues running normally. I and executive team busts a$$ to close sales and raise money. Company has a chance at not dying.


I chose option 2.

We are still here and running cash-flow positive today. Most of the employees have no idea how close we’ve come to shutting the company down.


Did you eventually let your employees know about the cash-flow issue? I guess in the end it all depends on what type of employees you have. If your employees are loyal, matured-thinking and responsible, option 1 might actually help turn your company around as everyone work their hardest to make it happen. I do believe that people can make sound judgment. If they see the owner as someone who has great potential they might take the risk and go through thick and thin with him. There's a lot of companies that went through that phase.

What I see lacking in many companies nowadays is trust. The business owner doesn't trust that his people have the company's best interest in mind, thus he only offers the very minimum benefits, constantly checking and monitoring his people for potential betrayal, and reminding them over and over again that they are "lucky to have a job and can be replaced in a blink of an eye". The employees on the other hand, also don't trust that the business owner has their best interest in mind, thus they only give their minimum effort and shun further responsibilities, haggle for more benefits, and jump ship to another company at the first sight of trouble. It is the owner's responsibility to set the company culture and provide an environment where people feel that they can trust and be trusted. Once this is established the company will have better chance of survival.
 
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Did you eventually let your employees know about the cash-flow issue? I guess in the end it all depends on what type of employees you have. If your employees are loyal, matured-thinking and responsible, option 1 might actually help turn your company around as everyone work their hardest to make it happen. I do believe that people can make sound judgment. If they see the owner as someone who has great potential they might take the risk and go through thick and thin with him. There's a lot of companies that went through that phase.

What I see lacking in many companies nowadays is trust. The business owner doesn't trust that his people have the company's best interest in mind, thus he only offers the very minimum benefits, constantly checking and monitoring his people for potential betrayal, and reminding them over and over again that they are "lucky to have a job and can be replaced in a blink of an eye". The employees on the other hand, also don't trust that the business owner has their best interest in mind, thus they only give their minimum effort and shun further responsibilities, haggle for more benefits, and jump ship to another company at the first sight of trouble. It is the owner's responsibility to set the company culture and provide an environment where people feel that they can trust and be trusted. Once this is established the company will have better chance of survival.

My thoughts exactly. We come from a society where it's not fashionable to respect other people. I truly believe that 99% of our issues could be fixed if we remembered that everyone around us are human beings with thoughts and fears and goals just like us and treated each other as such. Even with a power dynamic inherent in employer-employee relationships, mutual respect would go a long way toward making everything better - for the employee, for the employer, and for the company itself.
The best example I have personally is working at KMart. Minimum wage = minimum effort. I started out as their best worker, and even I got broken down by the self-esteem hit that comes from minimum wage. Though deep down, no matter what scripted bs I swallow, I always know my own value, even if I forget it for a time.
Anyway, you get what you pay for when it comes to employees.
On the flip side, you get what you accept, as an employee.
 
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I think most people leave because they think the grass is greener elsewhere

I know from personal experience that the ONLY REASON the grass is greener is because there is more manure.

The number of people who have left this place only to ask to return is astounding. Lots of promises made by our competition that they don't fulfill. Its far better to be honest and cultivate a good work environment than lie to get employees who will hate you when they realize they were bamboozled. When 2008-2012 construction collapse happened, we didn't have to tell any of our guys that their jobs were on the line daily, we all knew it, but because we are upfront and honest about everything is was kind of fun. It was way more "lets kick some a$$ today" rather than "o-shit i wonder how quick I can jump ship".

So i'm on the side of embarrassingly openness vs lie to get effort.
 

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This doesn't apply to those actively trying to change their situation, but letting another man decide how much money you get to support your family and calling him your "boss" is basically the same as calling him your "Daddy". Let that sink in.
 
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Few months ago I posted some stuff about my work in another thread.





TL;DR: the company I work is almost bankrupt, my boss(es) hate my guts because I don't keep my mouth shut, a colleague works almost 25 years here and has very high hopes to become the boss one day.

This week I unraveled a new secret:

The renting contract of the building we're located at will expire in 2021.

The building was sold to another transport company few years ago, which caused some unrest among the workers. But the previous CEO claimed they had a renting contract for 27 years. This week the new CEO spoke too fast to me, saying the contract ends 2021...

Slip of the tongue? So what?

Now I understand every move here.

The new CEO will retire in 2020, and since many colleagues are leaving, he tries to make promises of making them the new CEO and giving raises etc. Without blinking an eye he tells people he wants them to take over the company in his place. In reality I'm 99% certain they (the group) will close this place in 2021.

I was surprised, amused and also disgusted how false promises are made here, and that's probably normal in other companies too. Employees don't mean shit for "bosses". Just a tiny pawn in their game.

Luckily I haven't much to lose, and I know they want to fire me (just don't have to money to pull the trigger, and can't really blame me for anything). But for the stupid colleague who wants to be CEO, this will kill him. Even I tell him this, he will not believe me. Because "he can't be wrong for 23 years!".

I might stir a bit in this bowl of shit now.

This might be the same for the company you work at. A warned man...
amused and also disgusted how false promises are made here
Those 'hated jobs'. They will get you closer to your productacracy and goals in the general path until revenue and response increases. In response to the above statement this former employee of over fifteen years has heard similar instances. In general if you did not sign for it. It is null and void. Simply put you are a 'at will employee'. A certain sense of gladness for this person. Now maybe a FTE event X10 maybe needed. Some do just sadly veer in a scripted cycle. Now it is easier to immerge from empty promises and create a unscripted path.
 

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Lack of integrity and selfishness are not related with the condition of "boss" or "employee". They're as human as are the contrary traits.

A couple of weeks ago I presented my resignation to my boss. I will left the company in a couple of months. Days after, with some beers, he confess me that after know that, his first thought wasn't about how to fill my vacancy in the company. He was thinking instead about how would be my future; he was worried about me.

He was shocked for thinking like that :D
 

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Couldn't agree more with the title of this thread.

Some may disagree, and this is not worded the best;
A lot of slow laners' can't see past their employer. Almost a brainwashing effect. There's no need to be loyal, work >40 hours, work weekends, stress over your j-o-b. It's a business, and you can be let go at any moment, and you can move on at any moment. Like my father, spent 30 years at his j-o-b and what's his reward? A $300 Callaway golf bag. Is that all 30 years of service is worth? You're not there to join the corporate family, make friends, or have a good time. You're there to fulfill a need. Sounds familiar...

Let's face it, it's not YOUR business, so why would you let it consume you?

I'm still in the slowlane and 1 year ago I left a position I was at for 6 years. Since then I've been at 2 new companies. It was difficult, but leaving that first position OPENED MY EYES to far greater opportunities that were knocking on my (slowlane) door. There is always better opportunities!

Do a 180, and I can now see why several successful users on this forum are unable to find good employees; "An employee will never treat your business how you treat your business". Why would they?
 
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I've seen so many people laid off in my adult life.

People who had 15+ years with a company and loyal as anything.
People just a few years from retirement.
People blindsided who thought nothing was wrong at all.
I've seen people get new bosses, and shortly after, entire teams of people were let go.
Even all stars, let go.

One of my friends who is an absolute all star, genius level guy who had been at a company for 15+ years found out the company was being sold. He was an IT manager. A company doesn't need 2 IT managers.... He did nothing wrong, and all of a sudden, he's looking for a job.

And let's not forget the last recession. Imagine if you were a C level at Circuit City. You did nothing wrong, and.... gone.

My thought on this is to treat yourself and your career as a business. Focus on your own skills. Seek skills that all companies need. Keep your linkedin updated. Don't give away time you aren't paid for. Have a solid Plan B.
 

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I work with my dad and ue is practically my boss. Yes I do get certain perks for being the boss's son. No doubt. Bt even he, who is my dad, cant keep the promise of giving my yearly dividend. Evrrytime the tome comes to give the dividends he makes reasons (oh the market is bad we cannot burden the company, etc) And he is my dad. My own blood. So my point is, if your own blood cant keep the promise he made of giving out your yearly dividend, what of someone who is not related to you personally?

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Same happens to my wife..exactly the same! Even your own blood looks to you as him employee and will treat you like that..so when your turn comes..treat them as a real employer..even your own blood
 

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I was told once by the founder's daughter of a fortune 100 company that I was fortunate to have a job there.

She was right.

I didn't do a damn thing to build the business, other than trade my time for a paycheck.

It was their family that put a second mortgage on their home, risked it all, fought back from the edge of bankruptcy, and ultimately built a profitable business.

I just took a paycheck.

If its ok with you, I want to share this experience with my colleagues.
 
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If its ok with you, I want to share this experience with my colleagues.

Sure. If you print it please credit thefastlaneforum.com
 

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In my experience I've heard that the previous generation had much more loyalty between the employer / employee relationship than today. Folks would work for an employer for decades. Today it seems very corporate and less human.

My current employer provides software for patient billing for hospitals and has been sold 4 times since 2006. If it weren't for government health regulations changing yearly there would be no business, but it's ran so badly it feels like we are on the cusp of bankruptcy too. Now when someone gets let go the accumulated vacation time does not get paid out, which is a change to the "way it used to be" and regardless of the value you provide you can still be unemployed at the company's whim at any time.
 
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Not speaking towards your specific situation, but that line makes me naseaous every time I hear it.

I've heard it from family and even my boss "be fortunate you have a job."

If that's not the definition of the Script in action, I don't know what is.
A few years ago I was working at a machine shop and the boss was screaming about how the economy is bad, and he can replace me with 3 illegal mexican workers for the same as my wage. That I was lucky to have a job and I should blah blah blah. A bunch of bullshit.

3500 machine shops in Houston. 3499 leads. The 7th call that night, offered a job. The next day I packed my toolbox up.
 

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hilarious. this thread pops into my inbox because of a recent comment - and at the perfect time.

I will remain from too many bold comments, as I'm still working for someone else - but this year will be the last year of that. The catalyst was the title of this thread - I joined a company as employee number 40 - early stage venture funded startup in the SaaS space. I was the 4th sales person. With turnover, i'm probably the 15th most tenured person at the company (including founders). I've contributed insurmountable value to the company (partly because i wanted to learn everything as an entrepreneur, i like to stay busy doing something, and i believe in producing 10x value from that you get paid).

With the turnover, we've had a lot of new heads circle above me as my direct boss/report. After a second successful year of producing a ton of $$ and value for the company, I asked for a raise, and put together a presentation.

My merit, work, effort, and everything I had contributed over the past 2 years was simply brushed aside and met with nothing but poor-informed opinions. The truth is, most people in leadership or management positions suck at their job - and aren't properly suited for the position - they were good at another job and fumbled their way into a leadership role. (Being a good individual sales person does not make someone a strong VP of sales or Chief Revenue Officer - completely different skillsets).

The other part to that is the ego - most people have trouble managing their ego (myself included at times) - that means if you're a young, bold producer, your boss still probably doesn't give a shit about you - because your success is a direct reflection on their own lack of success when they were your age. (I had a former VP i reported to who literally disregarded my achievements and would ramble about how when she was my age, she wasn't half as successful, and how i should be grateful to be where i am and to be working for her..)

Another thing i'm realizing is that most bosses are math illiterate. Even when you show them concrete numbers, they'd still go with the choice that doesn't make mathematical sense, just to sooth their own ego and to be "right" (one of my favorite sentences i heard a while back was do you want to be right, or you do you want to make money).

For example - sometimes its better to pay your top producers more money to stick around and keep them happy, because the alternative is you have to pay more money to get someone with experience into the company to produce the same as your current top performers, and there's a ramp-up period to get the person to learn the role. However, the ego of a boss might have them say "i'm not giving anyone a raise and that's that!" - to which, even when math is presented, they back themselves into a corner by their own ego, and end up shooting themselves in the foot.

The title of this thread is spot on, and something to always remember - your boss doesn't give a shit about you, because they probably lack the skills and comprehension to be a good leader in the first place, and their ego is probably holding them back. Good leaders inspire action and have motivated teams work for them, they don't have a burn-and-churn operation at every company they plague (go listen to Simon Sinek talk about leadership and learn from him - he knows what he's talking about).

Update (April 2019) - Quit my job ;)
 
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hilarious. this thread pops into my inbox because of a recent comment - and at the perfect time.

I will remain from too many bold comments, as I'm still working for someone else - but this year will be the last year of that. The catalyst was the title of this thread - I joined a company as employee number 40 - early stage venture funded startup in the SaaS space. I was the 4th sales person. With turnover, i'm probably the 15th most tenured person at the company (including founders). I've contributed insurmountable value to the company (partly because i wanted to learn everything as an entrepreneur, i like to stay busy doing something, and i believe in producing 10x value from that you get paid).

With the turnover, we've had a lot of new heads circle above me as my direct boss/report. After a second successful year of producing a ton of $$ and value for the company, I asked for a raise, and put together a presentation.

My merit, work, effort, and everything I had contributed over the past 2 years was simply brushed aside and met with nothing but poor-informed opinions. The truth is, most people in leadership or management positions suck at their job - and aren't properly suited for the position - they were good at another job and fumbled their way into a leadership role. (Being a good individual sales person does not make someone a strong VP of sales or Chief Revenue Officer - completely different skillsets).

The other part to that is the ego - most people have trouble managing their ego (myself included at times) - that means if you're a young, bold producer, your boss still probably doesn't give a shit about you - because your success is a direct reflection on their own lack of success when they were your age. (I had a former VP i reported to who literally disregarded my achievements and would ramble about how when she was my age, she wasn't half as successful, and how i should be grateful to be where i am and to be working for her..)

Another thing i'm realizing is that most bosses are math illiterate. Even when you show them concrete numbers, they'd still go with the choice that doesn't make mathematical sense, just to sooth their own ego and to be "right" (one of my favorite sentences i heard a while back was do you want to be right, or you do you want to make money).

For example - sometimes its better to pay your top producers more money to stick around and keep them happy, because the alternative is you have to pay more money to get someone with experience into the company to produce the same as your current top performers, and there's a ramp-up period to get the person to learn the role. However, the ego of a boss might have them say "i'm not giving anyone a raise and that's that!" - to which, even when math is presented, they back themselves into a corner by their own ego, and end up shooting themselves in the foot.

The title of this thread is spot on, and something to always remember - your boss doesn't give a shit about you, because they probably lack the skills and comprehension to be a good leader in the first place, and their ego is probably holding them back. Good leaders inspire action and have motivated teams work for them, they don't have a burn-and-churn operation at every company they plague (go listen to Simon Sinek talk about leadership and learn from him - he knows what he's talking about).

Excellent post, couldn't agree more. Repped.
 
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hilarious. this thread pops into my inbox because of a recent comment - and at the perfect time.

I will remain from too many bold comments, as I'm still working for someone else - but this year will be the last year of that. The catalyst was the title of this thread - I joined a company as employee number 40 - early stage venture funded startup in the SaaS space. I was the 4th sales person. With turnover, i'm probably the 15th most tenured person at the company (including founders). I've contributed insurmountable value to the company (partly because i wanted to learn everything as an entrepreneur, i like to stay busy doing something, and i believe in producing 10x value from that you get paid).

With the turnover, we've had a lot of new heads circle above me as my direct boss/report. After a second successful year of producing a ton of $$ and value for the company, I asked for a raise, and put together a presentation.

My merit, work, effort, and everything I had contributed over the past 2 years was simply brushed aside and met with nothing but poor-informed opinions. The truth is, most people in leadership or management positions suck at their job - and aren't properly suited for the position - they were good at another job and fumbled their way into a leadership role. (Being a good individual sales person does not make someone a strong VP of sales or Chief Revenue Officer - completely different skillsets).

The other part to that is the ego - most people have trouble managing their ego (myself included at times) - that means if you're a young, bold producer, your boss still probably doesn't give a shit about you - because your success is a direct reflection on their own lack of success when they were your age. (I had a former VP i reported to who literally disregarded my achievements and would ramble about how when she was my age, she wasn't half as successful, and how i should be grateful to be where i am and to be working for her..)

Another thing i'm realizing is that most bosses are math illiterate. Even when you show them concrete numbers, they'd still go with the choice that doesn't make mathematical sense, just to sooth their own ego and to be "right" (one of my favorite sentences i heard a while back was do you want to be right, or you do you want to make money).

For example - sometimes its better to pay your top producers more money to stick around and keep them happy, because the alternative is you have to pay more money to get someone with experience into the company to produce the same as your current top performers, and there's a ramp-up period to get the person to learn the role. However, the ego of a boss might have them say "i'm not giving anyone a raise and that's that!" - to which, even when math is presented, they back themselves into a corner by their own ego, and end up shooting themselves in the foot.

The title of this thread is spot on, and something to always remember - your boss doesn't give a shit about you, because they probably lack the skills and comprehension to be a good leader in the first place, and their ego is probably holding them back. Good leaders inspire action and have motivated teams work for them, they don't have a burn-and-churn operation at every company they plague (go listen to Simon Sinek talk about leadership and learn from him - he knows what he's talking about).
Preach it to the choir, for the Lord's children are listening! Haha.

I've had issues with prior management/HR teams where the scenario was either everyone had to have the same raise in the name of equality, or only one person could have a certain pay raise, the next another, etc. or they dictated raises purely by a yearly basis/how long they have been with the company. I would regularly argue that paying people what they actually deserve, based on output, would save money for the company and would be investing in the current team. I agree that a lot of time "gut feelings" or even personal issues with subordinates would cloud the math of the situation.
 
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Off course employer will be selfish and try to benefit for himself he took the risk to start the company the employee choosed to work for him they can go at another place if they want or start their own business nothing is stopping them from achieving their goals if I start a business of course I would deserve more money than others I got the idea first I executed the idea fund my idea risk my capital where employee they just apply for a job where I have to face many obstacles to sustain the business if employee are unhappy to work for me they can get out whenever they want and they must face the harsh reality that if you are the passenger on the car bad things will eventually happen
 

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